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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Cross_Over on September 15, 2002, 03:50:23 PM
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I'm seeing alot of Diehard Dre fans on this board and I'm wondering...How many people think that Dre is actually a better producer than Quik ???
Personally I don't think that they even compare much. Sure they're both at the top, but the gap between them is pretty big if you ask me. Quik is just that much better in my opinion. Dre's beats are just too simplistic for me now, I've already heard to many Quik tracks for his tracks to move me anymore. Some people may be mad at me for saying this, but...I don't think Dre holds a candle to Quik when it comes to producing and especially not when it comes to riding a beat. Maybe I am biased, but I feel that I have good reason to be...
Everyone post your thoughts, If you agree say so and why. If you don't...I hope that you can TRY to persuade me into thinking why Dre is the better producer...
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:-* i think that DRE is a better producer than dj quik 4 me he is the best producer that there is love u DRE i got nothing but love 4 u :D :)
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these days...dre's beat sounds repetitive..its gettin boring..I prefer DJ Quik...
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Dr Dre, hes my favorite producer, cause I just like Dre's Style, no doubt Dj quik has Ill shit, but Still Doesnt beat Dre's..peace
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DJ Quik is much better. He knows how to switch up his style without sounding repetitive. Dre produces hot tracks from time to time, but he ain't fuckin with Quik.
Peace
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I'm not gonna try and persuade you into liking Dre more, what's the point? I perfer Dre, you perfer Quik, done deal.
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I'm not gonna try and persuade you into liking Dre more, what's the point? I perfer Dre, you perfer Quik, done deal.
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I'm not gonna try and persuade you into liking Dre more, what's the point? I perfer Dre, you perfer Quik, done deal.
Good words. Why try and say whos better. I know what i like and Ill listen to it nomatter what anyone says. SOme people(Incognito) just dont realize we all have different opinions. Its not crazy to not like dre.
PS......................Too Quik, Too Quik, Too Quik
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Right,Right...I guess it is all preference. Dre is tight, Quik is tight. I prefer Quik you prefer Dre. It's all good.
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I prefer Dre, Quik is too simple..
Dre is the G.O.A.T. of hiphop-producers.
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lets put it this way i fuckin love dres shit and i fuckin really really like quiks shit they are my two fav producers but dre just has that edge over quik but they both off the hook
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I prefer Dre, Quik is too simple..
Dre is the G.O.A.T. of hiphop-producers.
Jome i so wish you could say something i agree with... But what you just said was so simple minded and completly stupid.
Quik and simple are two words never to be used in the same sentance. Buy ALL his cds, listen to them front to back and tell me hes simple. Oh yeah, and Dre isnt simple?
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Jome i so wish you could say something i agree with... But what you just said was so simple minded and completly stupid.
Quik and simple are two words never to be used in the same sentance. Buy ALL his cds, listen to them front to back and tell me hes simple. Oh yeah, and Dre isnt simple?
hehe, I knew you would be pissed off on this one.
I never really liked more than a few Quik-productions, because most of them really bore me.
And nah: Dre isn't simple, just ask anybody who knows producing.
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I'm seeing alot of Diehard Dre fans on this board and I'm wondering...How many people think that Dre is actually a better producer than Quik ???
Personally I don't think that they even compare much. Sure they're both at the top, but the gap between them is pretty big if you ask me. Quik is just that much better in my opinion. Dre's beats are just too simplistic for me now, I've already heard to many Quik tracks for his tracks to move me anymore. Some people may be mad at me for saying this, but...I don't think Dre holds a candle to Quik when it comes to producing and especially not when it comes to riding a beat. Maybe I am biased, but I feel that I have good reason to be...
Everyone post your thoughts, If you agree say so and why. If you don't...I hope that you can TRY to persuade me into thinking why Dre is the better producer...
between dre and quick i perfer quick better...but to tell u the truth i perfer timbaland better then both
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In my opinion, i think dre is overplayed too much so i usually get tired of hearing his beats. Quik has been my favorite rapper/producer/musician for a long while now.
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hehe, I knew you would be pissed off on this one.
I never really liked more than a few Quik-productions, because most of them really bore me.
And nah: Dre isn't simple, just ask anybody who knows producing.
We all have different opinions. No one is right. But we are different. As much as i disagree with you jome, I respect your opinion.
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Dj Muthafuccin Quik Because he's way 2 funky and speakin on funky shit whhhhhhere izzzz Battlecat :'( :'( :'(I miss his funky soound)
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Dre is better hands down.He has the experience and the know whow,just listen to his music.Quicks beats are more grimy and dirty where as Dre's are more clear and have a better sound to them.Just listen to 2001 at how its mixed and how it flows,man aint nobody fuckin wit Dre PERIOD!!Oh and by the way just listen to that reack he did for Eve on her new album,its called"What",That shit is tight as fuck,he should of saved it for himself in my opinion.Well Dre is better in my opinion and in america everyone has there opinions.
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It gots to be Dre
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Dre. Like I said in the other thread Dre has a bigger and better back catalogue beatwise than any other producer in hip-hop, imo. Quik is dope as hell, in my top 3, but Dre is amazing when he's at his best. It's only natural that Dre's gonna have a dry spot, all producers do, but I guarentee when "Detox" drops everyone will change their opinion's of him again, thats how much faith I have in Dre as a producer. This happened when he left DR, everyone was bored with him, doubting him, then BLAW! he comes with "2001" and the shit he did for Eminem, changing the game yet again and coming with a signiture sound that started alot of trends.
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gotta be dre, but he's not the goat. sometimes his beats sound like plastic.
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>= link=board=general;num=1032141023;start=0#19 date=09/16/02 at 08:19:37]Dre. Like I said in the other thread Dre has a bigger and better back catalogue beatwise than any other producer in hip-hop, imo. Quik is dope as hell, in my top 3, but Dre is amazing when he's at his best. It's only natural that Dre's gonna have a dry spot, all producers do, but I guarentee when "Detox" drops everyone will change their opinion's of him again, thats how much faith I have in Dre as a producer. This happened when he left DR, everyone was bored with him, doubting him, then BLAW! he comes with "2001" and the shit he did for Eminem, changing the game yet again and coming with a signiture sound that started alot of trends.
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>= link=board=general;num=1032141023;start=0#19 date=09/16/02 at 08:19:37]Dre. Like I said in the other thread Dre has a bigger and better back catalogue beatwise than any other producer in hip-hop, imo. Quik is dope as hell, in my top 3, but Dre is amazing when he's at his best. It's only natural that Dre's gonna have a dry spot, all producers do, but I guarentee when "Detox" drops everyone will change their opinion's of him again, thats how much faith I have in Dre as a producer. This happened when he left DR, everyone was bored with him, doubting him, then BLAW! he comes with "2001" and the shit he did for Eminem, changing the game yet again and coming with a signiture sound that started alot of trends.
word up
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I know I don't have the same opinion as everyone else, but to me Quik has never made a bad track. I've heard alot of shit from him...I've heard mostly all of the beats that he has done for the Kompton Krew and all of his albums and I can't find something that I just can't listen too. All of it is tight to me.
As far a the simplicity of Dre...all he does is lay tracks on top of each other. Quik will freestyle with instruments more often...which is more complex. Dre lays it down and loops it while Quik makes 10 different points in a song using the same instrument sound totally different. He also uses more sounds at the same time when compared to Dre. Dre may use three different sounds, while Quik if you listen close enough is using like 6 or 7. They are two different styles, both tight, but Quik is definitely more complex.
Dre is also very arrogant. Quik has said that Dre inspired him, but even if Quik did inspire Dre...Dre is the type who wouldn't give credit anyway. His attitude seems kind of foul to me...
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I know I don't have the same opinion as everyone else, but to me Quik has never made a bad track. I've heard alot of shit from him...I've heard mostly all of the beats that he has done for the Kompton Krew and all of his albums and I can't find something that I just can't listen too. All of it is tight to me.
As far a the simplicity of Dre...all he does is lay tracks on top of each other. Quik will freestyle with instruments more often...which is more complex. Dre lays it down and loops it while Quik makes 10 different points in a song using the same instrument sound totally different. He also uses more sounds at the same time when compared to Dre. Dre may use three different sounds, while Quik if you listen close enough is using like 6 or 7. They are two different styles, both tight, but Quik is definitely more complex.
Dre is also very arrogant. Quik has said that Dre inspired him, but even if Quik did inspire Dre...Dre is the type who wouldn't give credit anyway. His attitude seems kind of foul to me...
I KNOW! Thats what i love bout quik. He just throws in so many different sounds in a song. I just love his fonky style and thenhe switches it up so fast. You cannot say quik is unoriginal. And I dont know why people didnt like Under Tha influence, It was still a step above teh rest. But yeah, Dre always makes my head bob but i cant say he is as musical as quik. Drum, bass, those backround sounds he always uses and some flutes or a couple different sounds is what makes a dre beat. Im still struggling to figure out what makes dre better. I dunno man. I just think Quik is a musical genious. Just listen to his quiks grooves. THAT IS MUSIC! I dont think dre can do what quik does with a quis groove. Listen to the one on balnce and options and tell me quik is not better.
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Im gonna stay outta this one and say I love them both ;)
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Dre for the men
Quik for the ladies.. no doubt.
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Dr. Dre is the best producer in my opinion. Aright?
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and in mine too ;D
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Dre is also very arrogant. Quik has said that Dre inspired him, but even if Quik did inspire Dre...Dre is the type who wouldn't give credit anyway. His attitude seems kind of foul to me...
How do u know that shit man?
don't say just something u THINK
Remember what The D.O.C. said?
Never could people like Daz & Mel-Man give Dre back what he gave 'em by teachg them and many artists (not only producers) that worked with Dre said it was interesting and very inspiring to see him working plus most Aftermath artists said it's like a family over there.
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Dr. Dre is the best producer in my opinion. Aright?
IMO it's Timbaland (US) + Akhenaton (Europe)
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I'm not saying that the immpression that I got about Dre is true. He just came off like that to me. Behind closed doors he may be the nicest person, but the side that he shows to the world is that of the nigga that's on top and knows damn well he's gonna stay on top. No disrespect to Andre Young personally, I don't know him personally, but Dr. Dre, the man we see on TV just seems very arrogant to me. Dr. Dre and the everyday man we don't get a glipse of are probably totally different...
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I'm not saying that the immpression that I got about Dre is true. He just came off like that to me. Behind closed doors he may be the nicest person, but the side that he shows to the world is that of the nigga that's on top and knows damn well he's gonna stay on top. No disrespect to Andre Young personally, I don't know him personally, but Dr. Dre, the man we see on TV just seems very arrogant to me. Dr. Dre and the everyday man we don't get a glipse of are probably totally different...
That description reminds me of Shaquille O'Neal. He's a damn cool dude, but when put in front of a camera he's seems to be bored to death, arrogant etc.
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Here's an MTV news article about Quik, and he had the following to say about Dre:
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Quik said Dr. Dre, who raps on and produced "Put It on Me," helped him fine-tune some of the tracks.
"Dude is like a super genius," he marveled. "His name couldn't be more perfect: the doctor. He gives you prescriptions on how to make your music better. You take it in and play for him, he gives you his opinions, and you implement his ideas. Before you know it, your record is beautiful."
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http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1451950/20020128/story.jhtml
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I don't know about you guys, but if Quik himself says Dre's a "super genius" and that he "make(s) your music better," then I think we should take his word for it. Why would Quik bother to listen to Dre's comments if he thought Dre is worse than him? I think, at best, you can consider Quik to be on Dre's level, but to say that he is far superior is ludicrous, considering how the man himself is deferential to Dre's talent and expertise.
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Point taken, but that doesn't neccessarily make Dre better. Quik gave it up to Dre. I give it up to Dre, I just don't think that he's better.
Walter Payton used to give it up to Emmit Smith...we all know Emmit will never be as good as Walter was..Right ???
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Point taken, but that doesn't neccessarily make Dre better. Quik gave it up to Dre. I give it up to Dre, I just don't think that he's better.
Walter Payton used to give it up to Emmit Smith...we all know Emmit will never be as good as Walter was..Right ???
Timbaland is the best ;D ;D
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Point taken, but that doesn't neccessarily make Dre better. Quik gave it up to Dre. I give it up to Dre, I just don't think that he's better.
Walter Payton used to give it up to Emmit Smith...we all know Emmit will never be as good as Walter was..Right ???
Obviesly Quik got hella respect for Dre and his skills.
I don't think he thinks he's betta it doesn't sound like that.
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Well, I promised myself I wouldn't come into this one, but here it goes:
I think that Irv Gotti is the best producer out there...
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Well, I promised myself I wouldn't come into this one, but here it goes:
I think that Irv Gotti is the best producer out there...
u trippin'
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Well.....I look at it like this. Its human nature to give a biased opinion when it comes to your favorite artist. I've been debating with people for about 5 years now over the topic, "Who's the best producer out west?" Dj Quik fans feel that its an injustice that Dr. Dre holds that title. Dre fans feel, "Hey its gotta be Dre becuz...Its Dre!"
I'm from L.A. but I went to college down south and I've travelled all throughout the east coast. EVERYBODY says that the best producer out west is Dre. If I ask them if they ever heard of Suga Free, Mausberg, or any DJ Quik albums after "Safe & Sound" they're like, "Naw neva heard of em"
I feel Dj Quik is at a disadvantage because hardly ANYBODY gets to hear his music on the radio. I currently live in Jacksonville, FL. They didn't even know Quik has an album out right now. The only thing that you hear out of the west is anything affiliated with Snoop or Dre.
On the subject of simplistic beats. Uhh yeah, even Dre's most hardcore fans have to admit that Dre sounds a little "Uninspired" nowadays. For all of you with a little musical backround, it widely known that live instrumentation WILL ALWAYS sound better than LOOPS. We all know that Dre uses loops and the more he grows uninspired the more not listenable he becomes. Quik uses live instruments. My brother & I were trying to count the number of instruments in "We Still Party". We gave up at 9. Not to mention that he PLAYS the majority of the instruments HIMSELF a la Stevie Wonder & Prince. Try to think of rap producers from any coast that put that much heart & soul into their music and still make bangin tracks.
I'm getting long-winded, but at the end of the day DJ Quik will never be crowned King of the West Coast by mass media, only by those who actually hear all of his work. One more thing. You will ALWAYS hear Quik givin up props to Dre cuz he knows Dre started this gangsta shit back in the day. Thats just the kind of modest person that he is.
THIS IS MY OPINION. DONT FLAME ME PLEASE!
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Well.....I look at it like this. Its human nature to give a biased opinion when it comes to your favorite artist. I've been debating with people for about 5 years now over the topic, "Who's the best producer out west?" Dj Quik fans feel that its an injustice that Dr. Dre holds that title. Dre fans feel, "Hey its gotta be Dre becuz...Its Dre!"
I'm from L.A. but I went to college down south and I've travelled all throughout the east coast. EVERYBODY says that the best producer out west is Dre. If I ask them if they ever heard of Suga Free, Mausberg, or any DJ Quik albums after "Safe & Sound" they're like, "Naw neva heard of em"
I feel Dj Quik is at a disadvantage because hardly ANYBODY gets to hear his music on the radio. I currently live in Jacksonville, FL. They didn't even know Quik has an album out right now. The only thing that you hear out of the west is anything affiliated with Snoop or Dre.
On the subject of simplistic beats. Uhh yeah, even Dre's most hardcore fans have to admit that Dre sounds a little "Uninspired" nowadays. For all of you with a little musical backround, it widely known that live instrumentation WILL ALWAYS sound better than LOOPS. We all know that Dre uses loops and the more he grows uninspired the more not listenable he becomes. Quik uses live instruments. My brother & I were trying to count the number of instruments in "We Still Party". We gave up at 9. Not to mention that he PLAYS the majority of the instruments HIMSELF a la Stevie Wonder & Prince. Try to think of rap producers from any coast that put that much heart & soul into their music and still make bangin tracks.
I'm getting long-winded, but at the end of the day DJ Quik will never be crowned King of the West Coast by mass media, only by those who actually hear all of his work. One more thing. You will ALWAYS hear Quik givin up props to Dre cuz he knows Dre started this gangsta shit back in the day. Thats just the kind of modest person that he is.
THIS IS MY OPINION. DONT FLAME ME PLEASE!
Great post. You just explained exactly how i feel but i just couldnt come up with the words. Its nice to know that everyone here isnt ONLY dre fans. I dont think anyone can disagree with what you said. Thats why no one has replied yet. But this is a constent battle that will never be won. I cant convince a dre fan to listen to quik more just like a dre fan cant make me like him more. So lets just leave it at this. We all have views and we are wasting our time trying to prove the next guy wrong. Take music for what its worth. It should be enjoyed no matter what you like listening to.
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Great post. You just explained exactly how i feel but i just couldnt come up with the words. Its nice to know that everyone here isnt ONLY dre fans. I dont think anyone can disagree with what you said. Thats why no one has replied yet. But this is a constent battle that will never be won. I cant convince a dre fan to listen to quik more just like a dre fan cant make me like him more. So lets just leave it at this. We all have views and we are wasting our time trying to prove the next guy wrong. Take music for what its worth. It should be enjoyed no matter what you like listening to.
The main argument of this post is that very few people hev heard of Quik.
Not too much if u ask me since ME and all'em people on this board actually DO know him so we CAN judge that shit just like u can and we STILL say Dre is the betta one.
And u said Addictive was best or most creative beat for a long time but fact is it was a sample and the original ain't that different since they got sued for this shit now...
But I agree wit ya everybody got his own opinion although u don't really believe this yourself since u always say Quik is the betta in the end after sayin everybody's got his own opinion.
If u DO think everybody's got his own opnion leave it at this...
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And u said Addictive was best or most creative beat for a long time but fact is it was a sample and the original ain't that different since they got sued for this shit now...
Creativity has nothing to do with the lawsuit
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Ya'll must have not listen to Quik on a good day if you say he's too simple. :(
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The main argument of this post is that very few people hev heard of Quik.
Not too much if u ask me since ME and all'em people on this board actually DO know him so we CAN judge that shit just like u can and we STILL say Dre is the betta one.
And u said Addictive was best or most creative beat for a long time but fact is it was a sample and the original ain't that different since they got sued for this shit now...
But I agree wit ya everybody got his own opinion although u don't really believe this yourself since u always say Quik is the betta in the end after sayin everybody's got his own opinion.
If u DO think everybody's got his own opnion leave it at this...
I have every single dj quik album, every single amg album, every single mausberg album, every single suga free album (expect pomona pimpin), playa hamms layin hands, every single 2nd ii none album. And my Swing'n cd is on its way. I think i know enough about quik to tell you my opinion. And yes i do have a dre cd and have heard more than alot of dres music to be able to judge who i think is better.
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I have every single dj quik album, every single amg album, every single mausberg album, every single suga free album (expect pomona pimpin), playa hamms layin hands, every single 2nd ii none album. And my Swing'n cd is on its way. I think i know enough about quik to tell you my opinion. And yes i do have a dre cd and have heard more than alot of dres music to be able to judge who i think is better.
can u tell me what's your point there?
Did I ever say u don't know enough to judge Quik or Dre?
U, not me YOU said people only wouldn't give Quik his props cuz they don't know him.
But ME and everybody in here DO know him AND we know Dre AND we (the majority) still say Dre's the betta one.
So u can't say it's only cuz people don't know him.
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They are both talented people...
I pick no sides between either one, But Dj Quik does Write his own rap's, Produce, & Perform all his own music.
He play's his own instrument's.....and Can sing aswell.
That's a talented homie right there.
And his ear is second 2 none when it comes to finding talent....we all know who Quik has brought into the game here's a couple...
Amg
Crawf Dog (Hi-C)
2nd II none
Suga Free
Mausberg ect....that's a talented group right there.
Dj Quik's po$$E cut's are on par with anything Dre & The early Deathrow camp did ImO.
That group of artist's together was & is the most complete.
I pick no sides just have to show my respect for Mr. Dj Quik.
OnE
Hatesrats 2oo2
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can u tell me what's your point there?
Did I ever say u don't know enough to judge Quik or Dre?
U, not me YOU said people only wouldn't give Quik his props cuz they don't know him.
But ME and everybody in here DO know him AND we know Dre AND we (the majority) still say Dre's the betta one.
So u can't say it's only cuz people don't know him.
Well i guess im an idiot that doesnt understand music then. Ill just go back to my hole.
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Honestly speaking, has Quik produced an album comparable to The Chronic? I don't think so. It's surely a matter of taste, but you can't deny Dre's influence on hiphop producers. He changed the game while bein on Ruthless, he did it again on Death Row and now that he's established his own label he does it again.
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Well i guess im an idiot that doesnt understand music then. Ill just go back to my hole.
you're livin in a hole? welcome to the club.
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Honestly speaking, has Quik produced an album comparable to The Chronic? I don't think so. It's surely a matter of taste, but you can't deny Dre's influence on hiphop producers. He changed the game while bein on Ruthless, he did it again on Death Row and now that he's established his own label he does it again.
Rhythm-al-ism mixed jazz, rock rap and funk to create an amazing album in hip hop. Quiks production on this album changed the game just as much as dres did on the chron.
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Rhythm-al-ism mixed jazz, rock rap and funk to create an amazing album in hip hop. Quiks production on this album changed the game just as much as dres did on the chron.
Very true. I feel "Rhythm-al-ism" is way more consistent in production than "The Chronic".
Peace
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At the present time, Quik owns Dre in the production department. He is more versitile.
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Well i guess im an idiot that doesnt understand music then. Ill just go back to my hole.
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3 years later an dI'll still take a Quik beat over a Dre beat.
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Dr. Dre and DJ Quik will prolly outlast you
What's up with these resurrected old threads?
I wonder if this is the first Dr. Dre and DJ Quik thread ever posted here.
Anyway I still prefer DJ Quik over Dr. Dre.
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Dre is the best producer, but i like quik better cause he's kind of an underdog.
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DJ Quik is alot more talented and is a better beat maker then Dre. Dr. Dre just has a better good ear for producing hot beats that the masses like.
Also, Quiks kills Dre in the rapping department anyday...
Overall Dj Quik is a better artist then Dr. Dre.
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Without analysis of who's the better musician, who makes bigger hits and whatnot, I'll just say whose material I like more - Dr. Dre. The Good Doctor, my number one guy. But Quick comes second right behind him.
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They both got different styles, and in my opinion U can't fuck with Quik.
Keep the "P" in it.
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Dre for me.
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This debate will probably go on forever. I'll just rate it how I see it....
Reaons for Quik over Dre:
-Much more musically inclined..meaning he uses a lot more musical theory in his music than Dre usually does, and can make music to appeal to people who don't even like rap
-Rarely samples or interpolates songs like Dre...and Dre will interpolate songs that nobody really knows about and get credit for bein a genius for creatin it (i.e. Xxplosive, Next Episode)
-Much less speculation than Dre as far as havin ghost producers...everybody knows they both use musicians, which is what a producer does. But there has been speculation about Dre not even comin up with the melodies or anything at all other than mixin, then gettin his name on it
-Doesn't take nearly as long to come out with albums, and since 95-96, has produced more songs than Dre overall that have been at a very similar level of quality
-Style is much harder to imitate than Dre's, and uses many elements that no regular producer could ever use
-Better as a rapper and has more personality in his music, as far as throwin in little samples and makin the beat play off of the artist
Reasons for Dre over Quik:
-Has had a much bigger impact in Hip Hop and in mainstream music than Quik, even though Quik never got his props for it
-Has been producin classic material for nearly 20 years, and has been producin period for longer than that
-Has many more commercially recognized hits, and has a higher demand
-Changes the game damn near every time he changes his style, and ends up havin hundreds of copycats
-Is known to bring out the best in almost every artist he works with
-Music always appeals to everyone outside the West
-Rarely dissapoints when he puts his all into a project
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one thing that everyone can agree on here is that for production and in general rap music, Dr. Dre and DJ Quik are Compton's Finest, ..the West Coast's Finest...Hip Hop's Finest
dont take that I have a bias on dre because of my username lol..its just my s/n for AOL, I'm a really big quik fan, so dont get me wrong
This is actually a hard decision,
DJ Quik and Dr. Dre to me are there...right next to each other so you cannot just state a name without an explanation.
DJ Quik, just be listening to the beat seems to be more instrumental or musical, maybe one word to describe his beats compared to dre is that they have more "funk" and "groove" to them...his shit is simply just all out "fly"
The way Quik makes beats, adds funkadelic sounds, adds flavor to a song is incredible.
From production such as "quik is the name"....to mid 90s production such as the classic "lets make a V" by King T and "lets get down" by Toni Toni Toni
and of course all of his albums, there is always something to listen to Quik about, he never gets played out, you can bump his shit all day
with Quik's recent release Trauma...wow...damn good album...best album of 2005 in my opinion...Then again I wasn't that surprised, I knew his album was going to be good and bring heat, but what actually surprised me is that it surpassed my expectations, that albums fuckin' dope...you all can agree with that
his lyrics...damn hes creative as fuck..comes with fresh, funky shit, that sometimes makes you want to rewind and listen to it again,
Quik is definitiley and incredible artist/producer/composer/musician...a certified legend to me..its always been a shame that hes been slept on, if anyone deserves to get all these record sales that garbage artists are making, it should go to Quik...it bothers me that people don't open their eyes or their eyes to see how talented this man is, what he can do, I wish more people knew who he was and that he can be recognized as one of the elite in rap, even though he is, he deserves even more recognition
now on to Dr. Dre...
Another native of Compton and Producer
Dre of course is the man who ran production with Yella in the NWA days, made those funky ass crazy beats in the late 80's, simply listen to the Eazy-E album "Eazy Duz It"
To many, Dr. Dre is considered to be a perfectionist in his work, in his art and what he does for music. One can easily tell (well at least I can) when a Dre beat is present. It has that complete and accomplished sound, it is very distinct as well. Dre is considered to have more hard hittin or "gangsta" beats, not as much ""flyness" as Quik.
Dr. Dre though, has made one of the most influential and to me the best albums in Rap.
"The Chronic" is the album that set a standard, he innovated and made the G-Funk sound and look it brought us...From Warren G to the Old School Snoop Dogg..The death row era..to me was the most talented record label of its time....
"Doggystyle" By Snoop Dogg was another legendary and classic album. He took the 70s sounds of the p-funk era and innovated it with rap music to create outstanding music.
Only having two albums, his last 2001 was another great album...was it as good as the chronic? ...no....but still to this day is considered to be a must-have cd...the production and its perfection is unique on that album....
Dre's lyrics...well he doesn't write them..he does have some of the best writers in the industry writing his stuff for him..if you come to think about...hes never really come wack on a track before...compared to Quik though, Quik takes that trait hands down because of his creativity and originality of not only writing his own lyrics, but making them unique and distinguishable,
Dre's Next album...Detox...one of the most expected albums in hip-hop..supposed to come out summer 2006..who knows?
Dr. Dre, (take the sales and popularity out of his effectiveness)
Dre...has made one of the biggest impacts in rap history....
to me Detox will surpass all these albums before it recently...I even expect it to surpass trauma...
Both artists have classics under their belts, but the perfection and quality of albums such as "the Chronic" and "Doggystyle" - these are albums that are classics and legendary and will stand in time as the best rap albums...One thing Quik has never done is made a classic to that level, dont get me wrong...DJ Quik definitley has classics under his belt but not to that Plateau
The perfectionist beats of Dr. Dre and his tremendous impact on how we listen to rap today makes him the top producer in the game.
Thats why to me.. I prefer Dr. Dre....but hands down? nope, only by a close margin, when compared to DJ Quik
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Dre>>>Quik
Quik has just not dropped album/beats better then those heard on Chronic/2001/Doggystyle
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Dr. Dre for the same reasons as SreSnoop00 gave at the end of his little speech.
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Why are we continuing to make the same thread??
I'm sorry, Dre shouldn't be in the same category as any of these producers (East or Westcoast)! Quik is my number one producer w/o Dre in the line up.. (PERIOD)! Again, nobody should persuade you to like Dre more, if you prefer Quik, then more power to you nephew...
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This debate will probably go on forever. I'll just rate it how I see it....
Reaons for Quik over Dre:
-Much more musically inclined..meaning he uses a lot more musical theory in his music than Dre usually does, and can make music to appeal to people who don't even like rap
-Rarely samples or interpolates songs like Dre...and Dre will interpolate songs that nobody really knows about and get credit for bein a genius for creatin it (i.e. Xxplosive, Next Episode)
-Much less speculation than Dre as far as havin ghost producers...everybody knows they both use musicians, which is what a producer does. But there has been speculation about Dre not even comin up with the melodies or anything at all other than mixin, then gettin his name on it
-Doesn't take nearly as long to come out with albums, and since 95-96, has produced more songs than Dre overall that have been at a very similar level of quality
-Style is much harder to imitate than Dre's, and uses many elements that no regular producer could ever use
-Better as a rapper and has more personality in his music, as far as throwin in little samples and makin the beat play off of the artist
Reasons for Dre over Quik:
-Has had a much bigger impact in Hip Hop and in mainstream music than Quik, even though Quik never got his props for it
-Has been producin classic material for nearly 20 years, and has been producin period for longer than that
-Has many more commercially recognized hits, and has a higher demand
-Changes the game damn near every time he changes his style, and ends up havin hundreds of copycats
-Is known to bring out the best in almost every artist he works with
-Music always appeals to everyone outside the West
-Rarely dissapoints when he puts his all into a project
DAMN! I don't think anyone could have said it any better. Right on point. I always enjoyed reading your posts. Anyway kind of funny how I used to the biggest dre fan. I would not mess with anyone music unless the doc was involved. Now quik is my number one producer, the doc is still number 2. Propz.
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This debate will probably go on forever. I'll just rate it how I see it....
Reaons for Quik over Dre:
-Much more musically inclined..meaning he uses a lot more musical theory in his music than Dre usually does, and can make music to appeal to people who don't even like rap
-Rarely samples or interpolates songs like Dre...and Dre will interpolate songs that nobody really knows about and get credit for bein a genius for creatin it (i.e. Xxplosive, Next Episode)
-Much less speculation than Dre as far as havin ghost producers...everybody knows they both use musicians, which is what a producer does. But there has been speculation about Dre not even comin up with the melodies or anything at all other than mixin, then gettin his name on it
-Doesn't take nearly as long to come out with albums, and since 95-96, has produced more songs than Dre overall that have been at a very similar level of quality
-Style is much harder to imitate than Dre's, and uses many elements that no regular producer could ever use
-Better as a rapper and has more personality in his music, as far as throwin in little samples and makin the beat play off of the artist
Reasons for Dre over Quik:
-Has had a much bigger impact in Hip Hop and in mainstream music than Quik, even though Quik never got his props for it
-Has been producin classic material for nearly 20 years, and has been producin period for longer than that
-Has many more commercially recognized hits, and has a higher demand
-Changes the game damn near every time he changes his style, and ends up havin hundreds of copycats
-Is known to bring out the best in almost every artist he works with
-Music always appeals to everyone outside the West
-Rarely dissapoints when he puts his all into a project
DAMN! I don't think anyone could have said it any better. Right on point. I always enjoyed reading your posts
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DJ QUIK
THEY WAT HE USED THAT BROTHERS JOHNSON "STRAWBERRY LETTER 23" SAMPLE TO MAKE "SAFE & SOUND" IS PURE GENIOUS.
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DJ QUIK
THEY WAT HE USED THAT BROTHERS JOHNSON "STRAWBERRY LETTER 23" SAMPLE TO MAKE "SAFE & SOUND" IS PURE GENIOUS.
yeah that shit is amazing
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Sorry to say it but I have to fuck with my Nigga Dj Quik the most talented mutha fucka to ever do it as far as Rap is concerned, no one ever says Quik didn't do a beat and took credit for that shit, mean while Dre is known for this shit that alone can put Quik over Dre, also Quik is a master mind with them fuckin instruments dude is like the hip hop version of fuckin Prince, Whoever said his shit was boring and simple dude u must be fuckin smoking that Pookie from New Jack City dope, Quik has so many different ways to come with a idea for a beat none of his shit sounds the same he always changes shit and I hate the fact that the industry won't give my nigga his due Props this nigga should be getting life time achievement awards just like Dre..........
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C'mon man why u even gotta be askin us this question. I like em both. but rythym-al-ism overshadows any dre album easily production wise.
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Dr. Dre All Day
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rythym-al-ism overshadows any dre album easily production wise.
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Dr. Dre, the best producer in the world...
"Still D.R.E" -> Anything Quik Has Done
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Dr. Dre, the best producer in the world...
"Still D.R.E" -> Anything Quik Has Done
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Quik better that D.R.E
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Dr. Dre, the best producer in the world...
"Still D.R.E" -> Anything Quik Has Done
LMAO....Explain....
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Dr. Dre is the best producer IMO.
Quik is good and maybe in the year 2005 Quik is even better than Dre.
But if you look back, than Dr. Dre don't got competition.
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Dj Quik Is a MUSICIAN. He can play isntruments by himself unlike dre who uses other people for such things as bass and keyboards etc. Dj Quiks production is alot more multi-layered than dres simple approach. Also Rhythmalism is where dj quik didnt rely on samples so that was a big plus in my standards. Dre relies too much on samples
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What is it with these DJ Quik fans and their inferiority complexes ??
Useless bump, locked.