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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Kill on November 26, 2004, 03:18:50 AM
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ok, originally i was responding in the luda vs. lil jon topic, i wanted to make it a short comment, but then i started writing more and more and figured this is off topic and anyways something i would like to ask people.
can someone give me back the urge to listen to all those new rap cd's? not joking, i really used to be interested in anything that'd drop, unless it came to really wack artists, now i don't even bother downloading no more...don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to jump on the it-all-sucks-so-bad-now bandwagon, because i often think shit's aight when i listen to it, but somehow i just ain't feelin 95% of what's comin out in hiphop...it feels like it's just the same old unchanging shit based on the same patterns, even when it's decent...funny thing is i realized that a long time ago, but i used to be like 'if it's dope, fuck it', but now it actually gets me pretty bored unless it's one great song.
anybody else feel that way? Again, I'm not trying to whine about how it sucks like many people do, this year's been ok for hiphop, not like '95, but not worse than i expected. still, i'm kind of starting to stop caring, only album i really want to drop is Nas'...generally hiphop for me is, after being a fan for many years, losing much of the appeal it used to have...btw, i know other people who feel that way in real life, too
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i was going thru the exact same thing in 2003, but 2004 got me back. Im real happy wit 20004.. alotta dope shit dropped.
the new Xzibit album im lovin, im lovin that Nas, im lovin that Ludacris, that Camron got amazin prodcution, then u got the Royce Da 59 albums, u got that Masta Ace, u got alottau nderground west coast cats droppin heat... yeah 2004 got me back.
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i was going thru the exact same thing in 2003, but 2004 got me back. Im real happy wit 20004.. alotta dope shit dropped.
the new Xzibit album im lovin, im lovin that Nas, im lovin that Ludacris, that Camron got amazin prodcution, then u got the Royce Da 59 albums, u got that Masta Ace, u got alottau nderground west coast cats droppin heat... yeah 2004 got me back.
yeah that's nice, and like i already said, i wanna point out that this is not another 'hiphop sucks, back n the days....etc' topic. Long Hot Summer was dope, I'ma buy the Nas when it drops, i liked the Mos Def, the Roots, Kanye, Ghostface, Murs, Mobb Deep came back this year...it's just that at the moment i'm kinda tired of it all and i've started listening to many other music styles which i just feel a whole lot more...it's difficult to say and explain why
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Check out theese albums , for good quality rap music .
Immortal technique - Revolutionary volume 1 & 2 ( a must have for any hip hop fan )
Cunninglynguists - Will rap for food , southern underground ( amazing production by Kno )
Jedi mind tricks - Violent by design , legacy of blood ( stoupe is a genius on the beats )
Canibus - Rip the jacker ( stoupe the master of beats and canibus one of the illest ever , together on the same fucking album ! Awesome , epic shit ! )
ill bill - Whats wrong with bill ? ( one of my favourite rap albums of 2004 . Ill bill is a dope mc , with alot of variety in his lyrics , and all the production is handled by Necro ! What more can you ask for ? )
Sabac Red - Sabacolypse ( sabac is a OK mc , but you got to get this shit for the beats . Another album all produced by Necro )
Murs - Murs 3.16 ( great album , produced by 9th wonder . I`m really feeling Murs on this record , he speaks on alot of shit I can relate to . A record for the average guy in the street )
Hope you enjoy theese records and perhaps it can sparkle some of the love you once had for hip hop back to you !
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everybody goes through the "Im-too-smart-for-hiphop-phase"... I know several dudes. Just ask Luke. Neap named some dope shit.
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everybody goes through the "Im-too-smart-for-hiphop-phase"... I know several dudes. Just ask Luke. Neap named some dope shit.
you did not get the point at all i think. Ich hab überhaupt nichts abschätziges gesagt und mich in keiner Form als zu intelligentes Opfer schlechter Musik hingestellt. Ich hab gesagt, dass mir hiphop nicht mehr so viel sagt wie früher...Luke hat die musik angegriffen, ich nicht wirklich. Ich habe nur meinen Standpunkt erklärt, aber ich habe nichts auf die musik geschoben (nur gesagt, dass sie auf einem gewissen muster basiert, das evtl. der grund ist, warum ich mich dabei inzwischen oft langweile)...Phase von mir aus, aber hör bitte auf von wegen 'i'm-too-smart'-phase, oder erklär mir sonst, woran du eine solche zu erkennen glaubst...peace
and Neap, i do know those albums except Will Rap For Food and Revolutionary 1 and they're all dope...i even said in my 2nd post i loved the murs album, back in may i bumped that more than anything...i still like those records, but it ain't what i mainly listen to no more, because I just feel other types of music more...but thx for the recommendations anyways
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es geht nicht darum was du sagst, sondern was du meinst :D
jedenfalls tritt das Syndrom häufig in jener Weise auf, vielleicht ist es ja bei dir nicht so, kein Grund gleich zu bolzen 8)
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lol, my german just ain't what it used to be like 8)
You'll get back to loving hiphop in a while, don't worry about it, you'll be fine! ;D
Anyway, I do kinda feel the same about 2004's hiphop even though lots of it IS good, I'm still bumping that early 90's shit more :o No, I'm just not open minded enough to listen to No Doubt or any of that bullshit ;)
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i stopped listening to hiphop for a while to, i used to download every thing hiphop related lol. now i only like a couple of hiphop artists, and im feelin other genres a lot now.
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I sometimes get a feeling like that myself - start feeling like I don't really feel this rap shit anymore. Then the next day I snap out of it and bump my records again.
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Just do like me. I listen to everything, but I don't make a distinction between music styles. I'll listen to PE in between Jimi Hendrix and Willie Nelson, it's all music. That's why I hate seperating music into styles.
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es geht nicht darum was du sagst, sondern was du meinst :D
jedenfalls tritt das Syndrom häufig in jener Weise, vielleicht ist es ja bei dir nicht so, kein Grund gleich zu bolzen 8)
ich 'bolz' ja nicht, aber ich sage genau das, was ich meine...dass Game und Luda oder wer auch immer keine hammerintelligenten texte kicken ist sowieso offensichtlich, aber das ist bei jedem musikstil ähnlich, es gibt gute lyricists und intelligente leute, und weniger gute...darum gehts echt nicht. du kannst das schon ein 'syndrom' nennen, aber ich versuche genau NICHT irgendwelche arroganten statements abzulassen über meine lieblingsmusik während mehrerer jahre, sondern ich stelle einfach fest, wie sich das für mich verändert...THIS IS NOT ANOTHER FUCK HIPHOP TOPIC...verstehst?
Just do like me. I listen to everything, but I don't make a distinction between music styles. I'll listen to PE in between Jimi Hendrix and Willie Nelson, it's all music. That's why I hate seperating music into styles.
yeah, i understand that, it's not like I'm into categorizing like that, but if certain artists who make music of a certain style start to be less interesting to you, you just notice that and that's what's happening to me with hiphop
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I think I know what Kill is talking about. I went through my "fuck hiphop" stage when Pac and Big were killed and Mase and Puffy started rapping. I got over it since there was still plenty of good music out.
He's talking about not feeling it anymore, which is different than the "fuck rap" anymore. At times I just don't want to fuck with it anymore, and I'll listening to something else for awhile. A lot of my friends feel the she same way, since most of us have been into this shit since the 80's and we're all almost 30 or way past it. I think it just comes with getting older. I just raise my eyebrow over a lot of the new shit that has come up recently and I find myself not being able to relate to alot of it anymore. It's not that I don't have love for hiphop anymore, since it will always be a part of me put sometimes, it's hard to explain it, I know what Kill is talking about.
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i only download/buy music from hip-hop artists that i know about already and I know come threw everytime with good, not great, but good albums.Unless someone tells me to download this album etc. But with other music types..i download everythiing i can ;D
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es geht nicht darum was du sagst, sondern was du meinst :D
jedenfalls tritt das Syndrom häufig in jener Weise, vielleicht ist es ja bei dir nicht so, kein Grund gleich zu bolzen 8)
ich 'bolz' ja nicht, aber ich sage genau das, was ich meine...dass Game und Luda oder wer auch immer keine hammerintelligenten texte kicken ist sowieso offensichtlich, aber das ist bei jedem musikstil ähnlich, es gibt gute lyricists und intelligente leute, und weniger gute...darum gehts echt nicht. du kannst das schon ein 'syndrom' nennen, aber ich versuche genau NICHT irgendwelche arroganten statements abzulassen über meine lieblingsmusik während mehrerer jahre, sondern ich stelle einfach fest, wie sich das für mich verändert...THIS IS NOT ANOTHER FUCK HIPHOP TOPIC...verstehst?
(http://www.board.rawdawgz.net/deu/images/icons/icon16.gif) Hör einfach ne Woche oder so kein Rap also wirklich garnichts und schau was passiert.
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I sometimes get a feeling like that myself - start feeling like I don't really feel this rap shit anymore. Then the next day I snap out of it and bump my records again.
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I was like that in 2003.But 2004 been a good year for hiphop.Bought so many cds this year. 8)
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ive been listening to more and more rock.. or old rap.. cause the shit thats coming out.. just aint that good
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Well thats beacuse hip-hop has died. RIP Hip-Hop 1985-2001.
Where were you the day hip-hop died?
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^^ :sign_banhim: ;D
Juronimo: yes, even though i'm only 18 i think that IS the same thing you're describing. actually apart from the stuff to do with your age i could quote you pretty much and co-sign it
7even: (zurück zu englisch, darf ja jeder lesen) lol, i know what you mean, and maybe my post has kind of a dramatizing effect: I'm not saying i won't listen to hiphop no more, never enjoy it, etc. But a year ago i would've been like "Game? gotta check it out. Snoop too...MC Eiht droppin? damn, gotta get this...when is Gore comin??" and i would have looked forward to these cd's for weeks. Now it's just like when they come out, i know the artist is cool and people say the album is i might give it a try. Getting back to what you said, if i didn't listen to hiphop for a whole week i'd definitely want to, but it would NEVER be the torture it would have been one or two years ago and not listening to ska or rock for a whole week would be worse, since i feel this (along with some other stuff) is the music that is really important for me in my life right now, which is the spot hiphop used to have and which is why i used the word "feeling", you could also talk about "relating to", a lot in this topic...it's not that hiphop won't "entertain" me no more
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ok, originally i was responding in the luda vs. lil jon topic, i wanted to make it a short comment, but then i started writing more and more and figured this is off topic and anyways something i would like to ask people.
can someone give me back the urge to listen to all those new rap cd's? not joking, i really used to be interested in anything that'd drop, unless it came to really wack artists, now i don't even bother downloading no more...don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to jump on the it-all-sucks-so-bad-now bandwagon, because i often think shit's aight when i listen to it, but somehow i just ain't feelin 95% of what's comin out in hiphop...it feels like it's just the same old unchanging shit based on the same patterns, even when it's decent...funny thing is i realized that a long time ago, but i used to be like 'if it's dope, fuck it', but now it actually gets me pretty bored unless it's one great song.
anybody else feel that way? Again, I'm not trying to whine about how it sucks like many people do, this year's been ok for hiphop, not like '95, but not worse than i expected. still, i'm kind of starting to stop caring, only album i really want to drop is Nas'...generally hiphop for me is, after being a fan for many years, losing much of the appeal it used to have...btw, i know other people who feel that way in real life, too
I feel the same way. Years ago I couldn't wait for an album to drop. If possible, I would pick it up at the local music store down the street early cause they'd release them on Fridays. I'd even pay $15 for the CD on Friday when I coulda just waited till Tuesday and got it from Best Buy for $10!
But I feel ya cause I think some songs on newer shit is tight (not as tight as it used to be), but I get bored with them quickly. I used to have all the new shit that came out memorized because I listened to it so much. It is very rare nowadays that I listen to a CD long enough to barely learn the chorus, rather the whole song!
I'll pick up a brand new album now on Tuesday, play it for a few days, and then I end up popping something from '96, '94 or '95 back in the deck and continue to bump that for a week or more. For the most part, I just don't get into what is popular now.
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i only download/buy music from hip-hop artists that i know about already and I know come threw everytime with good, not great, but good albums.Unless someone tells me to download this album etc. But with other music types..i download everythiing i can ;D
co-signs
and if those artist i like aint droppin shit...i jus go into a remember the time phase...and bump alot of old shit.. i dont even waste time gettin into new people..unless my favorites r ft on it..
i got the same feeling kill has right now..and i been bumpin n.e.r.d and sleepy brown's 1st album..lately then ti and luda dropped on the net... gave those 2 a listen...then i put the shit was bumpin at 1st back in...
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Don't worry about it Kill, thats perfectly normal. There was a point in time where even I questioned my love for hip hop. You'll grow out of it by next year at least.
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lol, we'll see :)
(i mean, there's both...people who go through a phase like that and get back to lovin it and people who kinda start listening to other stuff/feel other stuff more and stay like that...i know both...yes, there's also those who think they're too smart. however, i'll see how shit's gonna be in a few months, guess i just won't post quite as much in hiphop topics on this board, but i ain't leavin or anything...still gonna be the most active mod in Outbounds lol.........peace)
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I always keep different music on me, because there are times when I just don't feel like listening to rap music. I love hip-hop, but once in a while I just need to kick back to some Motown, or some oldies, or some Jodeci. Ya' know. And don't worry about the not looking forward to CDs. I am the same way, have been for years. I still love hip-hop, but I really am only looking forward to very few CDs. I bought Jada, Kanye, Ghostface, Mos Def and Talib this year, and am looking forward to Xzbit and Nas at the end of the year. But other than that, I really ain't look forward to anything. Before I bought the Black Album last year, I didn't buy a new CD in like a year, so don't trip. Unless it's tight, I ain't buying it.
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lol, we'll see :)
(i mean, there's both...people who go through a phase like that and get back to lovin it and people who kinda start listening to other stuff/feel other stuff more and stay like that...i know both...yes, there's also those who think they're too smart. however, i'll see how shit's gonna be in a few months, guess i just won't post quite as much in hiphop topics on this board, but i ain't leavin or anything...still gonna be the most active mod in Outbounds lol.........peace)
Just so long as you don't end up like the guy in my sig......
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^ goddamn, first i looked at ODB, but youre talkin bout the RIP fucker right? I'm not trying to brag, but like the vast majority of people I AM way to smart for THAT
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but youre talkin bout the RIP fucker right?
right.
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^ goddamn, first i looked at ODB
LMFAO :D
I hoped that would happen LOL. The world rules.
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^ goddamn, first i looked at ODB
LMFAO :D
I hoped that would happen LOL. The world rules.
i did too...and didnt realize it till kill said it
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HIP-HOP IS DEAD
This thread further proves the new theory that's going around, that hip-hop is infact dead. If it was all about lyrics it would have almost died back in the early 90's, and if it was all about beats, it might have died shortly after the "2001" Dre album.
Like the origional post said, we used to be checking for every new rap act that came out. It seemed everyone brought something unique to the table.
I say... Bring back the Black Power hip-hop![/i]
And I'm talking about the 1980's Black Power Hip-hop. That modern day Wyclef John makeover is too selfrighteous and for my taste.
Bring back psuedo-science of the X-Clan, bring back the black power hip-hop! Wise Intelligent, Rakim, Brand Nubian, Black Moon, Afrika Bambatta (one of the founders) KRS-1, and Paris (although some of these cats are still around)
Although at times it controdicts itself and is borderline pendantic, bring back the Black Power hip-hop. Bring back the authoratative bassos and "vainglorious" grooves. Sure, most groups were riddled with contradictions and their Nubian garb of nose rings, ankh jewelry, wooden canes, and black leather Morracan fezzes.. Hey I know some of that is about as African as an Afro, but their embrace of the red, black, and green was more thought out than any of their contempararies (save for Dead Prez).
Hip-Hop Is Dead Right Now. So Bring Back the Black Power Hip-Hop!
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HIP-HOP IS DEAD
This thread further proves the new theory that's going around, that hip-hop is infact dead. If it was all about lyrics it would have almost died back in the early 90's, and if it was all about beats, it might have died shortly after the "2001" Dre album.
Like the origional post said, we used to be checking for every new rap act that came out. It seemed everyone brought something unique to the table.
I say... Bring back the Black Power hip-hop![/i]
And I'm talking about the 1980's Black Power Hip-hop. That modern day Wyclef John makeover is too selfrighteous and for my taste.
Bring back psuedo-science of the X-Clan, bring back the black power hip-hop! Wise Intelligent, Rakim, Brand Nubian, Black Moon, Afrika Bambatta (one of the founders) KRS-1, and Paris (although some of these cats are still around)
Although at times it controdicts itself and is borderline pendantic, bring back the Black Power hip-hop. Bring back the authoratative bassos and "vainglorious" grooves. Sure, most groups were riddled with contradictions and their Nubian garb of nose rings, ankh jewelry, wooden canes, and black leather Morracan fezzes.. Hey I know some of that is about as African as an Afro, but their embrace of the red, black, and green was more thought out than any of their contempararies (save for Dead Prez).
Hip-Hop Is Dead Right Now. So Bring Back the Black Power Hip-Hop!
Kill, please don't end up like this fucktard.
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yall can say stick to underground hip hop all you want, but still...it would be nice to turn on the radio & hear something other the club or love songs by the same fuckin artist (Lil Jon, G-Unit, Nelly, etc)
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yall can say stick to underground hip hop all you want, but still...it would be nice to turn on the radio & hear something other the club or love songs by the same fuckin artist (Lil Jon, G-Unit, Nelly, etc)
exactly
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HIP-HOP IS DEAD
This thread further proves the new theory that's going around, that hip-hop is infact dead. If it was all about lyrics it would have almost died back in the early 90's, and if it was all about beats, it might have died shortly after the "2001" Dre album.
Like the origional post said, we used to be checking for every new rap act that came out. It seemed everyone brought something unique to the table.
I say... Bring back the Black Power hip-hop![/i]
And I'm talking about the 1980's Black Power Hip-hop. That modern day Wyclef John makeover is too selfrighteous and for my taste.
Bring back psuedo-science of the X-Clan, bring back the black power hip-hop! Wise Intelligent, Rakim, Brand Nubian, Black Moon, Afrika Bambatta (one of the founders) KRS-1, and Paris (although some of these cats are still around)
Although at times it controdicts itself and is borderline pendantic, bring back the Black Power hip-hop. Bring back the authoratative bassos and "vainglorious" grooves. Sure, most groups were riddled with contradictions and their Nubian garb of nose rings, ankh jewelry, wooden canes, and black leather Morracan fezzes.. Hey I know some of that is about as African as an Afro, but their embrace of the red, black, and green was more thought out than any of their contempararies (save for Dead Prez).
Hip-Hop Is Dead Right Now. So Bring Back the Black Power Hip-Hop!
Kill, please don't end up like this fucktard.
don't worry, that's not the direction i'm heading in. This ^^ is stupid nostalgia bs about how it used to be, golden era, base value in rap blahblahblah...even tho i wish there were Illmatics, Cuban Linx's and Mecca And The Soul Brothers and of course also It Takes A Nation Of Millions's and Soul Food's coming out today, i'm not glorifying the past and demonizing the present, let alone in such a dumb way. I'm just noticing how my taste seems to be changing and how i'm not relating to shit like i used to. Infinite, living in his phantasy, of course missed the point completly
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HIP-HOP IS DEAD
This thread further proves the new theory that's going around, that hip-hop is infact dead. If it was all about lyrics it would have almost died back in the early 90's, and if it was all about beats, it might have died shortly after the "2001" Dre album.
Like the origional post said, we used to be checking for every new rap act that came out. It seemed everyone brought something unique to the table.
I say... Bring back the Black Power hip-hop![/i]
And I'm talking about the 1980's Black Power Hip-hop. That modern day Wyclef John makeover is too selfrighteous and for my taste.
Bring back psuedo-science of the X-Clan, bring back the black power hip-hop! Wise Intelligent, Rakim, Brand Nubian, Black Moon, Afrika Bambatta (one of the founders) KRS-1, and Paris (although some of these cats are still around)
Although at times it controdicts itself and is borderline pendantic, bring back the Black Power hip-hop. Bring back the authoratative bassos and "vainglorious" grooves. Sure, most groups were riddled with contradictions and their Nubian garb of nose rings, ankh jewelry, wooden canes, and black leather Morracan fezzes.. Hey I know some of that is about as African as an Afro, but their embrace of the red, black, and green was more thought out than any of their contempararies (save for Dead Prez).
Hip-Hop Is Dead Right Now. So Bring Back the Black Power Hip-Hop!
Guess who came through next, X-Clan debuted
+Professor X+ ("Vanglorious") exist in a state of
+red, black, and green with a KEY, SISSIES!+
Now with this bein the new trend, we don't fit in
Crackers is out, with "Cactus Albums," blackness is in
African symbols and medallions, represent black power
And we ain't know what it meant, me and my man Howard
and Butter would go to the mall
with them all over our necks like we're showin 'em off
Not knowin at all we was bein laughed at
"You ain't even half black; you ain't 'posed to have that
homey, let me grab that, and that Flava Flav clock
we gon' have to snatch that," all I remember is meetin back at
Manics's basement, sayin how we hate this
How racist but dope the X-Clan's tape is
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i know exactly how you feel man...recently, ive started getting bored with pretty much everything ive heard...for me, this year wasnt that great...with the exception of a few...
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i know exactly how you feel man...recently, ive started getting bored with pretty much everything ive heard...for me, this year wasnt that great...with the exception of a few...
but is there anything you listen to instead of that?
same goes to the others who feel similar....