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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: rafsta on December 11, 2004, 06:47:25 PM

Title: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 11, 2004, 06:47:25 PM
eventually it will happen, there is no stopping it really, unless all pregnancies are controlled, do you think we will eventually colonise mars ? i think its the next step, like when america or wateva was discovered like 300 (??) years ago, took 6 months to get there, thats how lon it takes to get to mars now (maybe a month or two more).....

when australia was discovered it was labelled as havin infertile soils for growin etc... Australia now grows some of the highest quality fruits, bananas, mangoes, got some of the best oranges etc...

imagine space ppl that go on round the solar system cruises alone (like that cat that sailed around the world), instead of explorin antarctica explore pluto or one of saturns moons.....

i want that anti ageing shizz just to live 1000yrs to see this world !!! thats if we ahevnt destroyed ourselves by then....
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Jimmy Cash2120 on December 11, 2004, 07:02:32 PM
i don't think we'll get into space for a while, we're still blowin up astronauts
remember the space shuttle columbia
Title: Re: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 11, 2004, 07:16:55 PM
america was discovered 300 yrs ago right ? think about what happen 100 yrs ago, write bros made first airplane, cars came about around that time, 40 years ago (maybe) first space launch, now we got astronaust livin in a space shuttle, 100 years ago coulmd ppl imagine moon landings ? we cant imagine whats gonna happen in another 100yrs, let alone 300yrs, columbus was hardcore for sailing 10000 km's....
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Trauma-san on December 11, 2004, 09:05:51 PM
Well, you have two questions, the first is about over population, how do you tell people not to have children? It's just going to happen, not much of a way around it, the only way to get rid of people, is to start killing people, and we're not going to do that, so we shouldn't worry about it, just plan for it and make the best of it.

Second, Mars, yeah, I think eventually we will colonize it.  I dont' know when, but as you say, a ton happens in 100 years.  NASA recently announced a manned mission to mars for the future, so the groundwork for that is being laid right now. 
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Acgrundy on December 11, 2004, 09:47:18 PM
naw I doubt we are gonna inhabit mars.  I think people will eventually destroy earth.  for as smart of an animal as we are, in some ways we are the most dumb.  and trauma is wrong, there already is population control in the world.  In china you are allowed only to have one child, otherwise you have to pay large sums of money to the chinese government for each other child.  I'm sure there are many governments working on population control, such as war, not curing diseases, jail, and more.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Trauma-san on December 11, 2004, 10:45:42 PM
I'm not wrong.  China is a communist society, we live in a free country, you don't and can't tell people how many children to have in a free country.  Do you honestly think I don't know about the child birth laws in China, and you do? Do you honestly think I'm wrong, and you're right? 
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Acgrundy on December 11, 2004, 10:48:57 PM
I think your ignorant.  bottom line.  I think you are an american groupie, such as kaliweed and represent are snoopy groupies I think you are an american groupie.  only seeing one side of the fence.

 how do you tell people not to have children?

you typed it yourself dipshit.  so, ask the chinese government.

 Do you honestly think I'm wrong, and you're right?

of course.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 11, 2004, 11:54:17 PM
Arguments that grow out of miscommunication are always fun

*settles down with some drinks and watches the show*
Title: Re: over population
Post by: *Jamal* on December 12, 2004, 12:39:27 AM
the only way to get rid of people, is to start killing people, and we're not going to do that

Actually we are... and maybe Bush could use this as his next excuse for going to war... "The War on Over-Population"
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Westcoastin' on December 12, 2004, 01:25:43 AM
I could see a couple failed trys at Mars in our lifetime, i cant see us actually doing it while we're still alive tho.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: white Boy on December 12, 2004, 03:18:03 AM
the only way to get rid of people, is to start killing people, and we're not going to do that

Actually we are... and maybe Bush could use this as his next excuse for going to war... "The War on Over-Population"
cosign
Title: Re: over population
Post by: 7even on December 12, 2004, 04:47:49 AM
Actually, the German population decreases. Vacation and nice cars and career instead of children is the thinking now. Generation X. It's the poor people who get most children, like China and India. Also, in America it aint the white people who increase the population with their children, but the hispanic people.
Well anyway if you're from America you shouldnt worry about over-population cause you have very few people living per square mile. It's the poor countries in the East who have to worry about over-population.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 12, 2004, 06:27:14 AM
FIRST OFF QUIT THE GODDAMN BULLSHIT BEEFIN.....

this is a fucken discussion not a bitch fight, everyones entitled to an opinion no matter how stupid or wateva it seems to you, i got no time to read net bickering....


yeh they some valid points, i think that we will need to control birth rates, just make it not possible to have more than 2 children, its depriving freedom, but unless we find more recourses it will eventually happen... i think cloning of food etc will eventually happen as common practice, cloning fish pigs etc, the world doesnt have unlimited recources, so imagin a generation of kids growin up on a space ship or wateva, crazy fucked up shit.... just a though anyway.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 12, 2004, 06:29:19 AM
Actually, the German population decreases. Vacation and nice cars and career instead of children is the thinking now. Generation X. It's the poor people who get most children, like China and India. Also, in America it aint the white people who increase the population with their children, but the hispanic people.
Well anyway if you're from America you shouldnt worry about over-population cause you have very few people living per square mile. It's the poor countries in the East who have to worry about over-population.

in australia we wont have a overpopulation problem for ages, but this is a far out speculation, like hundreds of years, i feel as though humans are livin for today and tomorrow, but not next week.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: tommyilromano on December 12, 2004, 08:26:31 AM
america was discovered 300 yrs ago right ? think about what happen 100 yrs ago, write bros made first airplane, cars came about around that time, 40 years ago (maybe) first space launch, now we got astronaust livin in a space shuttle, 100 years ago coulmd ppl imagine moon landings ? we cant imagine whats gonna happen in another 100yrs, let alone 300yrs, columbus was hardcore for sailing 10000 km's....

America wasn't discovered 300 years ago... It was discovered in 1492 by Columbus..
Title: Re: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 12, 2004, 09:32:12 AM
america was discovered 300 yrs ago right ? think about what happen 100 yrs ago, write bros made first airplane, cars came about around that time, 40 years ago (maybe) first space launch, now we got astronaust livin in a space shuttle, 100 years ago coulmd ppl imagine moon landings ? we cant imagine whats gonna happen in another 100yrs, let alone 300yrs, columbus was hardcore for sailing 10000 km's....

America wasn't discovered 300 years ago... It was discovered in 1492 by Columbus..

oops yeh i know it was discovered by columbus, but wasnt sure of yr. thanks for the correction.

Title: Re: over population
Post by: Javier on December 12, 2004, 12:05:39 PM
Columbus discovered shit.  He was just the first visitor
Title: Re: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 12, 2004, 01:33:32 PM
Columbus discovered shit.  He was just the first visitor

i was taught in history he discoverd it....
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Javier on December 12, 2004, 02:08:37 PM
Columbus discovered shit.  He was just the first visitor

i was taught in history he discoverd it....

Sometimes History books are misleading.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 12, 2004, 02:18:55 PM
do you mind tellin me who did then ? its not useful you sayin cloumbus didnt discover america then sayin nothin....
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Acgrundy on December 12, 2004, 02:28:24 PM
ever hear of native americans?  are you really that ignorant or dumb?
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Javier on December 12, 2004, 02:43:20 PM
do you mind tellin me who did then ? its not useful you sayin cloumbus didnt discover america then sayin nothin....


The ancestors of the people that were living at the time Columbus arrived
Title: Re: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 12, 2004, 03:24:15 PM
ever hear of native americans?  are you really that ignorant or dumb?

did the native americans 'discover' america ? i hope that answers ure question...
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Acgrundy on December 12, 2004, 03:34:21 PM
well what the fuck do you think?  if they were there, they discovered it.  how could they be living there, but not have discovered it? 

and my question was rhetorical anyways
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Ant on December 12, 2004, 04:11:40 PM
In some ways we already are overpopulated.  For example, while many people don't realize it, we are already depleting global clean water supplies.  Every year that goes by we have less clean drinking water in the ecosystem because we consume more than the ecosystem naturally replenishes.

For more on the problem of over population the The Population Bomb by Paul Ehrlich is one of the more well known books on the subject...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1568495870/qid=1102896980/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/102-0569343-2836943?v=glance&s=books

Title: Re: over population
Post by: Jimmy Cash2120 on December 12, 2004, 10:02:44 PM
in America it aint the white people who increase the population with their children, but the hispanic people.

lol
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 13, 2004, 12:50:30 AM
I thought it was a well known fact Columbus didn;t discover America.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 13, 2004, 03:58:29 AM
good info Ant ! gw stickin to the topic...

i thought i made my point clear, i wasnt askin who are the natural inhabitants, i was askin who discovered america, wtf is with some of the ppl in this forum ?

Title: Re: over population
Post by: 7even on December 13, 2004, 05:28:38 AM
in America it aint the white people who increase the population with their children, but the hispanic people.

lol

what's so funny doughboy?
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Javier on December 13, 2004, 12:39:45 PM


i thought i made my point clear, i wasnt askin who are the natural inhabitants, i was askin who discovered america



I guess u dont get what we are saying.  You cannot discover something that already has been discovered.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: white Boy on December 13, 2004, 12:43:32 PM
lets kill the gay people, ill start with jomo
Title: Re: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 13, 2004, 01:05:18 PM


i thought i made my point clear, i wasnt askin who are the natural inhabitants, i was askin who discovered america



I guess u dont get what we are saying.  You cannot discover something that already has been discovered.

hmmm, u like bein difficult.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Acgrundy on December 13, 2004, 01:23:38 PM
^^^ naw man, pull your head out of your ass.  Did the first white people who grabbed slaves from africa discover africa too?
Title: Re: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 13, 2004, 01:56:09 PM
^^^ naw man, pull your head out of your ass.  Did the first white people who grabbed slaves from africa discover africa too?

ok ill just get my head out my ass....

right, africa is different, it isnt a seperate island, and ure comparin oranges to apples, go back to doin crime, discussions arent ure forte.

and you been listening too much nas, dont believe everything you hear from rappers.

^^^ if you dont understand that, then what i'm gettin at is Black ppl enslaved themselves, white ppl introduced possibility of makin money, white ppl didnt enter Africa and just decide to start pickin off Black ppl to enslave, trade started slavery in Africa.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Acgrundy on December 13, 2004, 02:06:08 PM
jesus christ you are fuckin dumb.  I was using the slavery example, as just that, an example, I wasn't getting technical. 

so tell me who discovered africa?  was it the first white people who went over there and grabbed slaves?  or was it the black people who were already living there?

I'm not comparing apples to oranges.  North America is a continent, correct?  Africa is a continent, correct?  where is the difference?

the idiotic way you are thinking, technically, everyone, could discover everything.  I go find a hole in the wall restaurant in san francisco, that makes great food.  I"ve never been there before, nor have I ever heard of it.  so I go there and find out its great food.  I discovered it?  in one sense yes, I discovered it for myself.  but did I really discover it?  hell no, thousands of people had eaten there before me, I just personally didn't know it.

Its pretty sad how much I have to spell things out for fuckin jackasses on this board.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Javier on December 13, 2004, 02:08:06 PM
yea i discovered the internet, i dont give a fuck what people say!!!!
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Acgrundy on December 13, 2004, 02:10:41 PM
I discovered rap
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Thirteen on December 13, 2004, 02:26:10 PM
jesus christ you are fuckin dumb.  I was using the slavery example, as just that, an example, I wasn't getting technical. 

so tell me who discovered africa?  was it the first white people who went over there and grabbed slaves?  or was it the black people who were already living there?

I'm not comparing apples to oranges.  North America is a continent, correct?  Africa is a continent, correct?  where is the difference?

the idiotic way you are thinking, technically, everyone, could discover everything.  I go find a hole in the wall restaurant in san francisco, that makes great food.  I"ve never been there before, nor have I ever heard of it.  so I go there and find out its great food.  I discovered it?  in one sense yes, I discovered it for myself.  but did I really discover it?  hell no, thousands of people had eaten there before me, I just personally didn't know it.

Its pretty sad how much I have to spell things out for fuckin jackasses on this board.

you could claim that you discovered what a dickhead moron dude is
Title: Re: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 13, 2004, 05:03:17 PM
jesus christ you are fuckin dumb.  I was using the slavery example, as just that, an example, I wasn't getting technical. 

so tell me who discovered africa?  was it the first white people who went over there and grabbed slaves?  or was it the black people who were already living there?

I'm not comparing apples to oranges.  North America is a continent, correct?  Africa is a continent, correct?  where is the difference?

the idiotic way you are thinking, technically, everyone, could discover everything.  I go find a hole in the wall restaurant in san francisco, that makes great food.  I"ve never been there before, nor have I ever heard of it.  so I go there and find out its great food.  I discovered it?  in one sense yes, I discovered it for myself.  but did I really discover it?  hell no, thousands of people had eaten there before me, I just personally didn't know it.

Its pretty sad how much I have to spell things out for fuckin jackasses on this board.

first off dont start insulting me, obviously we got different wave lengths of thinkin...

yes north america is a continent, but its seperate to europe, asia, africa etc... even before jesus christ we have known that africa etc exists, america was discovered 1500 years ago, if you want me to let you be a lil smart ass, and say columbus didnt discover america then i will, he discovered it for wester culture ok ?

one more thing, if you want to try to convince me with an argument, oyu shouldnt use made up examples, but something that i could take you seriously on.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Acgrundy on December 13, 2004, 05:16:26 PM
^^^ You obviously need things broken down to a downsyndrome way of explanation.  If you don't like my posts then don't fuckin read or reply to them.  I don't want to convince you of anything, except maybe sending me your entire life savings.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: tommyilromano on December 13, 2004, 09:02:43 PM
imagine space ppl that go on round the solar system cruises alone (like that cat that sailed around the world), instead of explorin antarctica explore pluto or one of saturns moons.....

i want that anti ageing shizz just to live 1000yrs to see this world !!! thats if we ahevnt destroyed ourselves by then....

Yeah.. thats what were gonna be doin.. ::)
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on December 14, 2004, 05:05:41 AM
We allready have overpopulation.

And we definately need birth control to stop it. I know, it's unethical to kill off people but it would be the solution. I personally think some people should be sterilised but I know it's an unethical thing to think so,yet it would be a solution and would also be a way to keep our species vital and thereby increase our chances for survival on the long term. Because, admit it or not, we humans are just as subject to natural laws as any other creature.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: rafsta on December 14, 2004, 05:19:38 AM
We allready have overpopulation.

And we definately need birth control to stop it. I know, it's unethical to kill off people but it would be the solution. I personally think some people should be sterilised but I know it's an unethical thing to think so,yet it would be a solution and would also be a way to keep our species vital and thereby increase our chances for survival on the long term. Because, admit it or not, we humans are just as subject to natural laws as any other creature.

yes we are subjest to laws, but we have free will... the rest of the animal kingdom works with god, were independant of god... we dont really use instinct anymore, were more about usin our brain, usin our brain means that we take benefit from watever we can, were not bound to the laws of just hunting gathering and reproducing (i see the animal kingdom as gods marvel in beauty)...
Title: Re: over population
Post by: 7even on December 14, 2004, 06:44:59 AM
We allready have overpopulation.

And we definately need birth control to stop it. I know, it's unethical to kill off people but it would be the solution. I personally think some people should be sterilised but I know it's an unethical thing to think so,yet it would be a solution and would also be a way to keep our species vital and thereby increase our chances for survival on the long term. Because, admit it or not, we humans are just as subject to natural laws as any other creature.

yes we are subjest to laws, but we have free will... the rest of the animal kingdom works with god, were independant of god... we dont really use instinct anymore, were more about usin our brain, usin our brain means that we take benefit from watever we can, were not bound to the laws of just hunting gathering and reproducing (i see the animal kingdom as gods marvel in beauty)...

1. God doesnt exist
2. We are bound to the laws of hunting, gathering and reproducing.. just in a different, more modern way.. in the stone age men impressed women with making fancy tools, cause women then knew he could hunt and they wouldnt have to hunger.. now men impress women with nice cars, clothes and mobile phones, cause then the women know he got money and they wont ever have to hunger.. same old shit.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: Z the laidback Virus on December 14, 2004, 12:06:18 PM
You can act like an ostrich and stick your head in the sand (figuratively speaking,also...ostriches don't really stick their heads in the sand) but if we don't do something about it, we'll be killed by overpopulation and it's consequences...imagine the human species to be like a swarm of grasshoppers; we'll be fine for a while but as we eat all food and ravage our surroundings we will eventually die out.
Title: Re: over population
Post by: RAP QUAKE on December 15, 2004, 01:41:10 AM
eventually it will happen, there is no stopping it really, unless all pregnancies are controlled, do you think we will eventually colonise mars ? i think its the next step, like when america or wateva was discovered like 300 (??) years ago, took 6 months to get there, thats how lon it takes to get to mars now (maybe a month or two more).....

when australia was discovered it was labelled as havin infertile soils for growin etc... Australia now grows some of the highest quality fruits, bananas, mangoes, got some of the best oranges etc...

imagine space ppl that go on round the solar system cruises alone (like that cat that sailed around the world), instead of explorin antarctica explore pluto or one of saturns moons.....

i want that anti ageing shizz just to live 1000yrs to see this world !!! thats if we ahevnt destroyed ourselves by then....


I THINK if we don't colonize Mars or something miraculous like that, we're gonna be in some trouble..
Title: Re: over population
Post by: RAP QUAKE on December 15, 2004, 01:52:18 AM
Arguments that grow out of miscommunication are always fun

*settles down with some drinks and watches the show*

U live an exciting life, original gangsta.