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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Ant on December 14, 2004, 07:07:06 PM
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Apparently looney liberals aren't the only ones upset with Donald Rumsfeld. This past week three prominent republican advocates spoke out against the Secretary of Defense.
Let's begin with a clip of Senator Chuck Hagel voicing his opinion of Rumsfeld:
http://movies.ziaspace.com/Hagel.wmv
Joe Biden goes first, so fast forward about one minute.
Then there was John McCain, and General Norman Schwarzkopf
“I was very, very disappointed — no, let me put it stronger — I was angry by the words of the secretary of defense when he laid it all on the Army, as if he, as the secretary of defense, didn’t have anything to do with the Army and the Army was over there doing it themselves, screwing up,” - Schwarzkopf
McCain went a step further and claimed he had "no confidence" in Rumsfeld's leadership.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6708495/
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Rumsfield is a douchebag. Did anyone see him in Kuwait? They were grilling him and one of his responses was:
"I'm an old man and it's early in the morning."
I say fire his ass.
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I can honestly say that any respect I had for Rumsfeld, and it wasn't much to begin with, is lost. I hope that other Republicans speak out against this. I am tired of the Bush people fucking up and people ignoring it. And it's not a sex scandle, this is costing us lives.
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It is costing more than just lives and besides the republicans just write off the lives lost. Everyone in the military joined voluntarily didn't they? Or so goes the logic of a diehard.
But beyond lives its costing money, jobs, respect, and sustained prosperity. America is not the only superpower to have existed. Plenty of others, many more powerful, have become overly confident, or rather arrogant, and have fallen from power. The republicans are successfully consolidating power in the American political system. Yet they fail to realize, or just don't care, that if they do finally achieve lasting power, it will be over a much diminished country.
The E.U., and China both have a shot at overtaking American Supremacy. The Republicans promised us this war would pay for itself, we might even make a profit some thought, in the end the only ones profiting from the Iraqi mess are the MNCs doing business there, China who bought half a trillion dollars in U.S. debt during the past few years, and a few looney republicans who have temporarily gained a false sense of superiority.
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I love how McCain goes on and on about how Rumsfeld has understaffed the war effort, but yet it was McCain, not Rumsfeld, who was around the last 18 years in the senate, overseeing the military budget in his special committe he's so proud of. It was McCain, for 18 years, who saw military cut after military cut decimate the military, and now it's McCain saying we're not using enough troops in Iraq. Rumsfeld gets the blame for being underfunded to the point of having improperly equipped tanks, but it was McCain who cut the funding for the defense program, time and time again. So how does he blame Rumsfeld, who has a budget to spend, provided by McCain (essentially)? I guess Rumsfeld is the new whipping boy at the whitehouse.
The thing that just irks me about politics is, people just bitch bitch bitch. There's so much pessimism and negativity. All people do is complain. What a bunch of pussies. Let me tell you another thing, too... just because you were a pow, and a war hero, doesn't mean you know what's best for the entire military. I respect Mccain's service to our country, and he's a true american hero, nobody can take that away from him... but he's not necessarily, by that resume, qualified to instruct the defense secretary of the united states how to run his job. Being a good pilot doesn't necessarily make you a great military mind.
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McCain gets the looney politician of the week award for making MLB steriod use his most urgent concern.
Rumsfiled is too old to do the job. You're a douche.
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Another thing I love, is when Ant and liberals like him, don't support the war, but then side with people like Norman Scwartzkoff, who would prefer that we just blow Iraq up with about 100 nukes, just because on that particular day general scwartzkoff says something he likes against somebody he dislikes. LOL it's just hilarious.
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I've never sided with Schwarzkopf, and I dont believe he ever felt we should nuke Iraq. On the contrary, I was pointing out that three republicans sided with a liberal perspective. I didn't change my opinion because of these guys, I pointed out that people on your side share a view point similiar to mine.
There's no point in posting if your not going to make posts that are at least somewhat grounded in reality. These posts were you put words in my mouth arne't accomplishing very much.
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on a brighter note....alot of units recieved a boost in funding for the first quarter of this fiscal year....thanks tax payers ;D
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McCain gets the looney politician of the week award for making MLB steriod use his most urgent concern.
Rumsfiled is too old to do the job. You're a douche.
You and your wanna-be conservative buddy really need to work on writing posts that actually make sense. And the anger and name calling really are unnecessary.
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McCain gets the looney politician of the week award for making MLB steriod use his most urgent concern.
Rumsfiled is too old to do the job. You're a douche.
You and your wanna-be conservative buddy really need to work on writing posts that actually make sense. And the anger and name calling really are unnecessary.
Ha ha. Englewood is like the prisoner in jail who develops a taste for ass after gettin raped himself.
I clowned him for years, insult after insult. He would always complain that all i could do was swear since i had nothing to contribute.
Really he didnt understand that throwing insults at him was the only thing his monkey ass deserved. Now, hes found his own whippin boy, and is now conditioning u with insults, albiet not too good ones. Soon, youre gonna be fuckin some new fish in the shower room.
TOT circle of life ladies and gentlemen.
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McCain gets the looney politician of the week award for making MLB steriod use his most urgent concern.
Rumsfiled is too old to do the job. You're a douche.
You and your wanna-be conservative buddy really need to work on writing posts that actually make sense. And the anger and name calling really are unnecessary.
Ha ha. Englewood is like the prisoner in jail who develops a taste for ass after gettin raped himself.
I clowned him for years, insult after insult. He would always complain that all i could do was swear since i had nothing to contribute.
Really he didnt understand that throwing insults at him was the only thing his monkey ass deserved. Now, hes found his own whippin boy, and is now conditioning u with insults, albiet not too good ones. Soon, youre gonna be fuckin some new fish in the shower room.
TOT circle of life ladies and gentlemen.
LOL!
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McCain gets the looney politician of the week award for making MLB steriod use his most urgent concern.
Rumsfiled is too old to do the job. You're a douche.
You and your wanna-be conservative buddy really need to work on writing posts that actually make sense. And the anger and name calling really are unnecessary.
Ha ha. Englewood is like the prisoner in jail who develops a taste for ass after gettin raped himself.
I clowned him for years, insult after insult. He would always complain that all i could do was swear since i had nothing to contribute.
Really he didnt understand that throwing insults at him was the only thing his monkey ass deserved. Now, hes found his own whippin boy, and is now conditioning u with insults, albiet not too good ones. Soon, youre gonna be fuckin some new fish in the shower room.
TOT circle of life ladies and gentlemen.
What do you do during your normal everyday life? Do you ever wonder to youself why your going nowhere fast? The three stooges of ToT can run their mouthes all day on this board but no matter how many times you pretend you've 'clowned' someone on a message board when you wake up in the morning your still going to be stuck in a dead end job, with a dead end life. Where is Trauma today? He's pushing 30 by now probably, but hey he has religion? Your obviously not doing much better with yourself. I don't point these things out to throw low blows. I point them out because the reason you aren't successful is because your attitude is embarassingly immature. You should be embarassed at yourself and probably already are. That's why you have to run around on a message board glorifying your lack of an ego. If your life's accomplishment is making yourself feel good about clowning engelwood for years, then good for you. I'm glad your satisfied by the simpler things in life.
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Do you ever talk about anything other then politics?
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when ever i see donald rumsfeld i think off the grim reaper and he talks like i could imagine him too.
you guys know rumsfeld was a director of a company that sold nuclear material to north korea right?
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DUH! He's a REPUBLICAN! Pay attention.
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Even well-known republican bigots dislike Rumsfeld:
U.S. Sen. Trent Lott doesn't believe Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld should resign immediately, but he does think Rumsfeld should be replaced sometime in the next year.
"I'm not a fan of Secretary Rumsfeld," Lott, R-Mississippi, told the Biloxi Chamber of Commerce on Wednesday morning.
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/10427343.htm
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Sen. Trent Lott is the same guy who said the country would be better off had we remained segregated. So, as I've been pointing out, its not only liberals who understand Rumsfeld is bad for America, but even your stereotypical republican bigots feel the same way too. Could it be the intelligensia was right all along, or should these poor fools be exorcised from the republican party for embarassingly falling for liberal propaganda (i.e. the news)?