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Title: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 06, 2002, 03:55:46 PM
Well, it was confirmed that Biggie payed off the Crips to kill Pac in '96 because of all the beef...But do u guys think Biggie really set up Pac the first time he got shot in '94...or do u think it was just allegations started by Pac...I dont really know...Pac and Biggie were homies back at that time, I dunno why Biggie would set him up for no reason...It sounds kinda weird to me...What do ya'll think? Did Biggie set up Pac the first time Pac got shot?




PS...Remember how Biggies mom and Pacs mom were together at the VMA's? U think they still gone stick together after the accusations of Biggie killing Pac, or do u think Pac's mom will be furious??



Aight ya'll...Holla back with an opinion....PeACE
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: ROCCY on September 06, 2002, 03:59:00 PM
ya dude, I dont think biggie set him up back in the 94 cause they where homeis..but pac accused him off and started dissing him..so BIG got mad and paid "1 million dollars to the "crips" to kill..and about the 2 moms togethere at the VMA's I didnt see them there..anyway...peace
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Doggystylin on September 06, 2002, 04:00:21 PM
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Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Nosak on September 06, 2002, 04:02:05 PM
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Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Doggystylin on September 06, 2002, 04:09:56 PM
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Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Woodrow on September 06, 2002, 04:11:22 PM
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Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 06, 2002, 04:16:20 PM
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Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 06, 2002, 04:17:06 PM
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Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: HBKid_Jr on September 06, 2002, 04:32:48 PM
slick is goin kill himself,  every1 is talkin about pac an big,  if slick doesnt get his his proper dosage of snoop he'll kill himself
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on September 06, 2002, 04:34:26 PM
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Well, it was confirmed that Biggie payed off the Crips to kill Pac in '96 because of all the beef...But do u guys think Biggie really set up Pac the first time he got shot in '94...or do u think it was just allegations started by Pac...I dont really know...Pac and Biggie were homies back at that time, I dunno why Biggie would set him up for no reason...It sounds kinda weird to me...What do ya'll think? Did Biggie set up Pac the first time Pac got shot?




PS...Remember how Biggies mom and Pacs mom were together at the VMA's? U think they still gone stick together after the accusations of Biggie killing Pac, or do u think Pac's mom will be furious??



Aight ya'll...Holla back with an opinion....PeACE





It hasn't really been "Confirmed".. it's just more accusations, speculations, and Theory's..


But with tha whole 94' situation. I dont think Biggie set Tupac up. I think he was just there... people say he was upstairs when it happened. Tupac was trying to go upstairs too cuz there was a gang of people up there and they were having a session I guess.. recording music.. but on his way up he got jacked and shot. So Tupac just got mad for tha fact that Biggie was supposed to be his homie and didn't do anything to prevent it from happening. But from Biggie's point of view.. I guess he really couldn't do shit. It's street shit and Biggie can't really do anything about it.. and if he did.. he's tha one living in Brooklyn so if he tried to do anything about it he'd be tha one having to face tha people who shot Tupac...


Hope that answers your question.
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Nosak on September 06, 2002, 04:46:07 PM
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slick is goin kill himself,  every1 is talkin about pac an big,  if slick doesnt get his his proper dosage of snoop he'll kill himself

bitch just shut the fuck up , do u see that i'm bitchin bout no snoop threads, i was just reffering to this thread cause it says that it's just a rumor and that latime will be sued soon...... and once again fuck you psyco bitch, get off my case
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: HBKid_Jr on September 06, 2002, 04:57:23 PM
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bitch just shut the fuck up , do u see that i'm bitchin bout no snoop threads, i was just reffering to this thread cause it says that it's just a rumor and that latime will be sued soon...... and once again fuck you psyco bitch, get off my case
*in slick style*
dawm,,.., tahat wuz harsh... but we we,  poop in tha snoop,  cuz he no hate jus pimp an show love cuz he we we crip.  dawm...... snoop dindnt teachh that..... chuuuuch chuuuuch
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Doggystylin on September 06, 2002, 04:59:34 PM
lmao @ this thread
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Nosak on September 06, 2002, 05:38:00 PM
dawm he got a serious problem, he's depressif i think , anyways go take some pills or some, try the weed, cigarette, do something for that man... anyways
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 06, 2002, 06:49:22 PM
I dont think he did. He wouldn't of had that done while he was in the buidling.
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Cliche on September 06, 2002, 07:06:09 PM
it wasn't confirmed that biggie did anything in 96 either.... just cause a reporter writes it doesn't make it the truth... and im no biggie or pac fan.  there's an article up on mtv with lil cease and others defending biggie, saying he was at his new jersey home watching a tyson fight.
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 06, 2002, 08:45:56 PM
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it wasn't confirmed that biggie did anything in 96 either.... just cause a reporter writes it doesn't make it the truth... and im no biggie or pac fan.  there's an article up on mtv with lil cease and others defending biggie, saying he was at his new jersey home watching a tyson fight.





Ok, he was home at New Jersey...What does that have to do with the fact that he payed off crips to kill Pac? Plus, explain the lyrics in "Kiss you Goodby"...And of course Biggies family/homies are gunna have his back and say he didnt do it, but thats just the natural reaction of any parent...Its not like Biggies best homie is gunna go on TV and say "HE KILLED HIM! I KNOW IT!"...I mean, come on...



Also, I wanna clarify... I'm really hoping Biggie didn't have pac killed, cuz I know Biggie was a great man deep down inside, and definently a legendary musician... I hope he had no involvment in Pacs murder, cuz this would ruin his legacy... but if u look at it, the facts lean towards Biggies involvment...


But than I put on Biggies outro on Disc One of "Life After Death", and I heard Biggie speaking on how he would never wish death on a man...So really, I'm undecided on the situation...But I've always had suspicions that Biggie was invlolved...I'm going on 55% Biggies involved and 45 % he isnt...If u woulda asked me 2 hours ago, I woulda said 70% Biggies involved and 30% he isnt...Maybe is u ask me 2 hours from now my opinion will change once again, but u see, with all the facts, rumors, and opinions spreading all around, its hard to really have a steady opinion...PeACe
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on September 07, 2002, 12:27:13 AM
The Black Mafia were supposed to of been involved with Tupac's first shooting. Bad Boy Records was (I don't think they still are though) financed by the Black Mafia and at one time Puffy offered 'Pac a contract to sign to Bad Boy but 'Pac refused. Anyways, apparently one guy from the Black Mafia was upset and felt disrespected by 'Pac and that led to 'Pac's first shooting. With Biggie's connection with Bad Boy/Black Mafia 'Pac thought Biggie knew all about the set up. 'Pac would of obviously felt betrayed by all of this. 'Pac also said in numerous interviews that he could see the guilt and also shock on Biggie's face when he got upstairs after the shooting, he said Puffy wouldn't even look at him.
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: smartass on September 07, 2002, 03:45:20 AM
was it a coincidence that biggie got pissed off when dpg were filming the ny ny video in new york and said he didn't want them there..then a few hours later they got shot at?

thats 3 times.
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Nosak on September 07, 2002, 09:24:40 AM
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Ok, he was home at New Jersey...What does that have to do with the fact that he payed off crips to kill Pac? Plus, explain the lyrics in "Kiss you Goodby"...And of course Biggies family/homies are gunna have his back and say he didnt do it, but thats just the natural reaction of any parent...Its not like Biggies best homie is gunna go on TV and say "HE KILLED HIM! I KNOW IT!"...I mean, come on...


it's not cause he wrote that kiss you goodbye that he made killed pac neither, and in the article they don't say that biggie meet the crips a week earlier , they same the same night after that orlando got beat up and that the crips were mad, so my conclusion .... it'S pure bullshit..... and what i wanna hear now it's the snoop idea of it , cause he was friend of both, plus suge laughin out about this , yeah i really wanna see this
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: smartass on September 07, 2002, 09:45:57 AM
"quick to spit biggie name on shit, make my name taste
like ass when you speak it, see me in the street
your jewelry you can keep it, that be our little secret"


obviously he set him up.
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: Nosak on September 07, 2002, 10:24:48 AM
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"quick to spit biggie name on shit, make my name taste
like ass when you speak it, see me in the street
your jewelry you can keep it, that be our little secret"


obviously he set him up.

thats because it comme from biggie, if it would came from master p ya'll would say shit, same with xzibit
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: bez on September 07, 2002, 10:36:56 AM
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Ok, he was home at New Jersey...What does that have to do with the fact that he payed off crips to kill Pac? Plus, explain the lyrics in "Kiss you Goodby"...And of course Biggies family/homies are gunna have his back and say he didnt do it, but thats just the natural reaction of any parent...Its not like Biggies best homie is gunna go on TV and say "HE KILLED HIM! I KNOW IT!"...I mean, come on...



Also, I wanna clarify... I'm really hoping Biggie didn't have pac killed, cuz I know Biggie was a great man deep down inside, and definently a legendary musician... I hope he had no involvment in Pacs murder, cuz this would ruin his legacy... but if u look at it, the facts lean towards Biggies involvment...


But than I put on Biggies outro on Disc One of "Life After Death", and I heard Biggie speaking on how he would never wish death on a man...So really, I'm undecided on the situation...But I've always had suspicions that Biggie was invlolved...I'm going on 55% Biggies involved and 45 % he isnt...If u woulda asked me 2 hours ago, I woulda said 70% Biggies involved and 30% he isnt...Maybe is u ask me 2 hours from now my opinion will change once again, but u see, with all the facts, rumors, and opinions spreading all around, its hard to really have a steady opinion...PeACe


Dude just because someone go's I know I will write a song that sounds like I hae killed some one doesnt mean that they actually did kill them.  Biggie and pac beefed you gotta understand that for Pac to die people proberly expected Big to drop some harsh shit on Pac, and it looks like he did.  It makes good business, Buy the new Big album with his latest diss to the late 2Pac.  Come on man get a grip.
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: smartass on September 07, 2002, 01:13:50 PM
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thats because it comme from biggie, if it would came from master p ya'll would say shit, same with xzibit


i didn't understand a word you just said. its a well known fact that pac was robbed of $40,000 worth of jewelry when he was shot in 94 and after that he dissed biggie in alot of his songs. thats why i mentioned the quote from "what's beef".
Title: Re: Bigge Set up Pac in 94?
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on September 08, 2002, 01:31:39 AM
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Dude just because someone go's I know I will write a song that sounds like I hae killed some one doesnt mean that they actually did kill them.  Biggie and pac beefed you gotta understand that for Pac to die people proberly expected Big to drop some harsh shit on Pac, and it looks like he did.  It makes good business, Buy the new Big album with his latest diss to the late 2Pac.  Come on man get a grip.


Yeah, it's all interesting shit but at the end of the day it's probably just a coincidence that that track looks like it's aimed at 'Pac's 'assasination'. & I don't know if some of you realise but the song "Long Kiss Goodnight" was inspired by the film "The Long Kiss Goodnight" that is about a female (Charlie Baltimore) secret agent/assassin.