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Title: LEGENDS!
Post by: topdogg187 on September 01, 2002, 03:44:25 PM
which of the following artist do u think are legends and which aren't:

Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- Yes
2pac- Yes
Notorious BIG- Yes
Eminem- No
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- No
Eazy- E- Yes
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No
Nas- No
Title: Here's what I think. . .
Post by: HairWuzEre on September 01, 2002, 04:01:13 PM
YES - Snoop
YES - 2Pac
YES - Biggie
NO - Eminem
YES - Rakim
YES - Dre
NO - Bone Thugs
YES - Eazy E
YES - Ice Cube
NO - Jay-Z
YES - Nas
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on September 01, 2002, 04:04:57 PM
Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- Yes
2pac- Yes
Notorious BIG- Yes
Eminem- No
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- Yes
Eazy- E- Yes
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No
Nas- No
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: HBKid_Jr on September 01, 2002, 04:08:10 PM
every1 is cept eminem, but overtime i think he eventually be.  Bone thugs is close,  i dunno.  opened tha door for tha mid-west brought in a new style.  Jay-z i dunno
Title: Re: Here's what I think. . .
Post by: DJ_Jay_Deee on September 01, 2002, 08:03:25 PM
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YES - Snoop
YES - 2Pac
YES - Biggie
NO - Eminem
YES - Rakim
YES - Dre
NO - Bone Thugs
YES - Eazy E
YES - Ice Cube
NO - Jay-Z
YES - Nas

Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Dedicato on September 01, 2002, 08:30:00 PM
Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- Yes
2pac- Yes
Notorious BIG- Yes
Eminem- No
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- No
Eazy- E- Yes
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No
Nas- Yes
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Smooth on September 01, 2002, 08:36:01 PM
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Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- Yes
2pac- Yes
Notorious BIG- Yes
Eminem- No
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- Yes
Eazy- E- Yes
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No
Nas- No

Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Funkadelic on September 01, 2002, 08:43:38 PM
You shouldn't forget about the real creators of the g-funk, Above The Law.
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Doggystylin on September 01, 2002, 08:48:18 PM
damn yall are some fuckin bone haters...fuck yall >:(

Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- yeah i guess, lol
2pac- what kind of question is this?
Notorious BIG- No
Eminem- No
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- Oh hellz Yeah
Eazy- E- No
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No
Nas- No
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: closetothalimit on September 01, 2002, 08:57:01 PM
Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- No...Yes...Maybe
2pac- Yes
Notorious BIG- Yes
Eminem- No
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- No
Eazy- E- Yes
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No
Nas- Yes
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Hatesrats™ on September 01, 2002, 09:15:54 PM

Snoop Dogg- Yes
2pac- Yes
The Notorious BIG- Yes
Eminem- No
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- No
Eazy-E- Yes
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- Yes
Nas- No
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Lil Jay on September 01, 2002, 09:47:43 PM
anyone who says no to biggie is a dickhead
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 01, 2002, 10:26:48 PM
Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- Yes
2pac- Yes
Notorious BIG- Yes
Eminem- No
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- Yes
Eazy- E- Yes
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No
Nas- Yes

One thing I don't get is how you can say Snoop but not Bone. They both dropped one classic album. They seem to be on the same level as me, just my opinion so its koo.

Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Don Seer on September 01, 2002, 10:27:15 PM
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anyone who says no to biggie is a dickhead


especially when they vote for bone too!  >:(


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Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- Yes
2pac- Yes
Notorious BIG- Yes
Eminem- Not yet ;)
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- No
Eazy- E- Yes
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No
Nas- Yes



same as Dedicato... which matches mostly everyone else apart from Nas.
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on September 02, 2002, 02:55:05 AM
Snoop - Yes, Doggy Dogg and just Dogg.
2Pac - Yes, no question.
B.I.G - Yes.
Eminem - Not at the moment, but he probably will become one.
Rakim - Yes, again no question.
Dr. Dre - Same as above.
BTNH - Yes, one of the biggest/best groups in hip-hop history, they've been around for sometime now, deserved major props for that atleast.
Eazy-E - Yes.
Ice Cube - Yes.
Jay-Z - No.
Nas - Yes. Anyone who can/has recorded something as equal to "Illmatic" is and will be considered a legend by me.
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: bez on September 02, 2002, 03:44:00 AM
i think they are all legends in there own way, I like em all.
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on September 02, 2002, 03:53:22 AM
Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- No
2pac- Yes
Notorious B.I.G.- Yes
Eminem- No
Rakim- Hell Yeah
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- Hell No
Eazy-E- Not Sure
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No
Nas- Yes
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: caTASHtrophe on September 02, 2002, 04:23:47 AM
Well looking at ppls lists im completly confused and want someone to explain to me what a "LEGEND" is...

Coz my definition of legend seems to be very different judging from the replies im seeing, coz i don't see ..

How is biggie a legend?
How is Bone Not?
How can nas/jay be put in the legend category?

???
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: 40oz GRApHire on September 02, 2002, 05:02:44 AM
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Eazy- E- No


WTF?  >:(
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Don Seer on September 02, 2002, 05:06:15 AM
how the fuck can you say yes to BoneFagsNHarmony and no to the man who took them to another level?!
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on September 02, 2002, 05:08:00 AM
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how the fuck can you say yes to BoneFagsNHarmony and no to the man who took them to another level?!


word if bone thugs are then eazy e automatically is..
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Lil Jay on September 02, 2002, 05:12:32 AM
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how the fuck can you say yes to BoneFagsNHarmony and no to the man who took them to another level?!

Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Desoto Loco on September 02, 2002, 05:24:35 AM
Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- Yes
2Pac- Yes
Notorious BIG- HELL NAH
Eminem- Nah
Rakim- Nah
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- Nah
Eazy- E- Yes
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- Nah
Nas- Nah
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: caTASHtrophe on September 02, 2002, 05:55:42 AM
This post has been very interesting...imo...

8)

But some quick thoughts?

If Big is a legend, then shouldn't nas be a legend then?

OR is BIG a legend coz he's dead.

Also what about Big Pun then? He dropped 1 classic and one ok album just like Biggie.

What do u all make of Pun?

he was the first portarican(sp) to go plat and put them on the map and into hip hop. Why big and not pun...

Just wandering...

???
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on September 02, 2002, 06:07:42 AM
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Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- Yes
2Pac- Yes
Notorious BIG- HELL NAH
Rakim- Nah
Dr. Dre- Yes
Eazy- E- Yes
Ice Cube- Yes


:o
Snoop is a legend is Rakim is not
:o

Definition of a legend: Rakim
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: bricklayer on September 02, 2002, 07:45:31 AM
snoop-yes
2pac-yes
notorious big-yes
eminem-no
rakim-yes
dr. dre-yes
bone thugs-no
eazy e-no
ice cube-no
jay-z-no
nas-no
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: bez on September 02, 2002, 07:52:17 AM
Right this is not how my list wud be, but I think this is how the average person from the UK wud do this.

snoop-yes
2pac-yes
notorious big-yes
eminem-yes
rakim-no
dr. dre-yes
bone thugs-no
eazy e-yes
ice cube-yes
jay-z-no
nas-no

I will be honest til I came to this board I didnt know who rakim was and I bet everyone in uk has now heard of him because of his part on addictive.  I just have a feeling thats how many people  from uk wud see it.

Heres mine

snoop-yes
2pac-yes
notorious big-yes
eminem-yes
rakim-yes
dr. dre-yes
bone thugs-no
eazy e-no
ice cube-yes
jay-z-yes
nas-yes
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Doggystylin on September 02, 2002, 07:52:56 AM
get the fuck off my dick, i have my own opinions

and ill explain them since yall are so into my post, lol

this is who we think are legends right? well, biggie didnt do much for me imo, i really didnt get affected by his music, he was just another dope rapper out the east. maybe i havent heard his shit enough or whatever

Eazy E, well to be real he didnt do much, he didnt produce, he didnt write, he just rapped and had a big mouth, he was tight and all, but he didnt do much for bone either, he just got them signed and gave them a few tips, look at E99, that came after eazy e died, art of war too, and i think those are way better than what eazy helped them on, but whatever, eazy was a part of nwa and did help start gangsta shit, and showed the world bone, so thats good enough for me i guess, so enough of the bitching

OMG biggie and eazy arent legends on his list but bonefagsnharmony are!  ::) :P
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Doggystylin on September 02, 2002, 07:56:00 AM
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This post has been very interesting...imo...

8)

But some quick thoughts?

If Big is a legend, then shouldn't nas be a legend then?

OR is BIG a legend coz he's dead.

Also what about Big Pun then? He dropped 1 classic and one ok album just like Biggie.

What do u all make of Pun?

he was the first portarican(sp) to go plat and put them on the map and into hip hop. Why big and not pun...

Just wandering...

???


word, i dont even feel biggie that much, he was a tight rapper and all, but to me not good enough to be a legend
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on September 02, 2002, 08:16:25 AM
@ Hatesrats......LOL @ Jay Z is a legend 2 U but Bone aint? haha

Bone's put in more work than half of that list......Yall dun make me list all tha shit they did again.......jeeez.
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: verbalassaulta on September 02, 2002, 08:25:02 AM
snoop DOGGY dogg..yes
snoop dogg....no
pac...of course
biggie...i guess
em..no
rakim..yes
dre..yes
bone...no
eazy...sorry no
cube....yes
jayz..no
naz...hell no
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 02, 2002, 08:43:47 AM
Ice Cube is a living Westcoast legend. How can anyone dispute that?
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: 40oz GRApHire on September 02, 2002, 08:50:42 AM
Some of you really dont know shit about the game if you say Eazy isnt a legend, this topic isnt about he you like best its whos a legend and who's not!  :o
Title: Rakim is the most legendary on that list, so. . .
Post by: HairWuzEre on September 02, 2002, 09:33:07 AM
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Rakim- Nah
You obviously don't listen to real hip hop is you think that Rakim isn't a legend. I mean, fuck, he's right up there with KRS-One, Q-Tip, and Phife Dawg, (so of course he's a legend!).
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: LAZY on September 02, 2002, 10:34:50 AM
Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- Yes
2pac- Yes
Notorious BIG- i guess i never really listened 2 him  
Eminem- No
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- Yes
Eazy- E- Yes
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No
Nas- No
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Rud on September 02, 2002, 10:57:10 AM
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Ice Cube is a living Westcoast legend. How can anyone dispute that?


WORD! Cant Beleive He Isnt Even On The Initial List Or Subseqent Ones!
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: smartass on September 02, 2002, 11:34:35 AM
funny how big l dropped one classic and a follow up better than big and puns sophmore efforts but yet hes never been considered a legend...
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Murrow on September 02, 2002, 11:38:06 AM
Everyone except Eminem, Bone, Jay-Z and Nas.

Nas & EM will be though.
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Hatesrats™ on September 02, 2002, 11:54:04 AM
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@ Hatesrats......LOL @ Jay Z is a legend 2 U but Bone aint? haha

Bone's put in more work than half of that list......Yall dun make me list all tha shit they did again.......jeeez.


If yall' consider Nas a Legend....then I'll place Jigga next to him anyday. Jay has Nas matched for anything he ever dropped. I placed Jigga cause I know yall' have a fucken hard on for him.

Bone is tight......But to me personaly....all I feel is Bizzy.
The other's are back-up's to him ImO.
And they ain't "Harmony" without him.
But I can understand why some of yall' feel them the way u do.

Swallow bacC
Hatesrats 2oo2


Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Lil Suge Knight on September 02, 2002, 12:42:55 PM
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damn yall are some fuckin bone haters...fuck yall >:(

Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- yeah i guess, lol
2pac- what kind of question is this?
Notorious BIG- No
Eminem- No
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- Oh hellz Yeah
Eazy- E- No
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No
Nas- No


Eazy E no, but Bone Thugs yes, how can you say that, Eazy E put them on the map, and was in the forefront of the most succesful rap group ever,

Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- Yeah
2pac- Yeah
Notorious BIG- Yeah
Eminem- No
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- No
Eazy- E- Yeah
Ice Cube- Yeah
Jay-Z- No
Nas- Yeah
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: HBKid_Jr on September 02, 2002, 12:48:19 PM
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funny how big l dropped one classic and a follow up better than big and puns sophmore efforts but yet hes never been considered a legend...

word,  tha only reason he dont is b/c he didnt have as big a impact in tha mainstream as tha rest.  I dont care what any1 says,  lifesytles ov da poor an dangerous is a classic
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on September 02, 2002, 01:07:35 PM
Snoop(Doggy)Dogg - Yes
2pac - Yes
Notorious BIG - Although I don't listen to him much I guess he is
Eminem - No (not yet)
Rakim - Yes
Dr. Dre-  Yes
Bone Thugs - not shure
Eazy- E - Yes
Ice Cube - Yes
Jay-z - No
Nas - he'll be
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: bLaDe on September 02, 2002, 01:11:15 PM
Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- Yes, I guess...
2pac- Yes
Notorious BIG- no
Eminem- No
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- No
Eazy- E- no
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No
Nas- yes

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: ImmortalOne on September 02, 2002, 02:48:14 PM
Way too many Snoop dickriders on here. How is Snoop a legend, but Bone isnt?? Snoop made ONE classic album. Bone made TWO classic albums, at least one near-classic album, and a number of 4-4.5 mic caliber albums.

Snoop Dogg - no
2pac - biggest legend hip hop will ever see [duh]
Notorious BIG - yea
Eminem - No
Rakim - Yes
Dr. Dre - Yes
Bone Thugs - not sure [they've fallen off badly, but their impact is undeniable]
Eazy E - yea
Ice Cube - Yes
Jay-z - No
Nas - yes
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on September 02, 2002, 03:03:39 PM
I'm I the only one that doesn't feel any Bones Thugs material or understand how they can be considered in the hip-hop elite?
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Doggystylin on September 02, 2002, 03:06:27 PM
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I'm I the only one that doesn't feel any Bones Thugs material or understand how they can be considered in the hip-hop elite?


yeah pretty much
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: ImmortalOne on September 02, 2002, 03:20:48 PM
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I'm I the only one that doesn't feel any Bones Thugs material or understand how they can be considered in the hip-hop elite?


Two words:

E.1999 Eternal

one of the greatest hip hop albums ever recorded.
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on September 03, 2002, 05:23:37 AM
I'm sure a lot of people feel their style, and they are original I'll give them that, however, you can never say any one of those guys are legendary emcees.  In the same league as a Kane, a Rakim or a Nas.
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Lil Jay on September 03, 2002, 05:42:22 AM
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I'm I the only one that doesn't feel any Bones Thugs material or understand how they can be considered in the hip-hop elite?



nope, youre not....
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on September 03, 2002, 05:46:02 AM
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Eazy E, well to be real he didnt do much, he didnt produce, he didnt write, he just rapped and had a big mouth


Did Eazy never write his lyrics?
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Kill on September 03, 2002, 08:15:28 AM
Snoop(Doggy)Dogg- Yes
2pac- Yes
Notorious BIG- Yes
Rakim- Yes
Dr. Dre- Yes
Bone Thugs- No
Eazy- E- Yes
Ice Cube- Yes
Jay-z- No

Eminem & Nas- "Illmatic" is a legendary album and Eminem is so famous and unique that he will be a legend in a few years.
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: Kill on September 03, 2002, 08:18:01 AM
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Did Eazy never write his lyrics?


I think he co-wrote sum shit, but he always had ghostwriters far as I know. He is a legend, but an overrated one IMO
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: bundybone on September 03, 2002, 10:46:25 AM
Okay, let me put my list up too

Snoop dogg: when you make your first appearance on probably the biggest rap-album of al time, and you're an immediate superstar, your probably allready a legend ......... if you drop another classic solo-album after that...  people CAN'T deny you're a legend.

2pac: Simply the biggest artist ever in rapmusic, has to be considered a legend, even if you hate him like some people do. His whole career has been legendary......

Notorious BIG: Don't get me wrong, I like biggie. But he was nothing new to me....... His style allready existed, he just improved it, so I don't consider him a legend.

Eminem: I'm not his biggest fan, but looking at what he has achieved in his career....... He's definately a legend

Rakim: Switched the game up: legend

Dr. Dre: Introduced a whole new sound: Legend

Bone thugs: People surprised me on this one....... It's okay to dislike them, but denying their legends???????????? That's just WRONG....... They made one of the best rap-singles of all time ( crossroads ), won a grammy, came with a new sound and have a career that allready lasted 10 YEARS, and still hasn't ended: 10 years of multi-platinum albums........... Believe me, they're legends

Eazy-e: He is a legend, nothing more, nothing less

Ice-cube: Same as eazy

Jay-z: nothing new to me, so ---> far from a legend

Nas: he made illmatic...... what else would you call him
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on September 03, 2002, 12:19:55 PM
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I think he co-wrote sum shit, but he always had ghostwriters far as I know. He is a legend, but an overrated one IMO


This is a bit strange since nobody gives Dre any rap credits cause he ain't writing his lyrics.
But everybody gives Eazy credit although he didn't write his lyrics neither.
I always thought he only didn't write everything.
His lyrics were pretty simple and he didn't write them - where the fuck is the difference to Dre?
The only difference I see is Dre produced his shit and Eazy didn't.

I still think Eazy's a tight rapper just like I think Dre's a tight rapper but if yall don't agree (and I know nearly everybody don't) tell me what were Eazy's skills..?
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: 40oz GRApHire on September 04, 2002, 01:28:55 AM
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I think he co-wrote sum shit, but he always had ghostwriters far as I know. He is a legend, but an overrated one IMO


Eazy is overrated lol? and 2pac isnt right?
Title: Re: LEGENDS!
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on September 05, 2002, 05:18:11 AM
if nobody can answer my question about Eazy's skills that tells much....