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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Murrow on September 02, 2002, 11:54:17 AM
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Just a feeling I have. Snoop seems to have this album just about done. He hasn't mentioned Dre at all. Not once have the words come out of his mouth. Only back about 6 months ago we read that Dre will most likely be on the album.
I don't think there is any beef but I think they have shyed away from each other a bit. With what Snoop said bout the J.D. beef may have dissapointed Dre. Or it may just happend that Dre won't produce or rap on the new Snoop album.
What do you think? Dre is caught up with "Oh My God" & "DETOX" right now...so..?
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put it this way, if dre aint on paid the cost......then snoop wont be on detox.............so they betta think it over good befo decidin if they wanna bitch about lil things!
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put it this way, if dre aint on paid the cost......then snoop wont be on detox.............so they betta think it over good befo decidin if they wanna bitch about lil things!
Why's that? "Detox" is way down the line. I'm sure Snoop will be on it unless there is some beef.
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Why's that? "Detox" is way down the line. I'm sure Snoop will be on it unless there is some beef.
well dre and snoop got they own sorta relationship u know? like snoop duz somethang for dre and then then dre will do something for snoop
so i reckon if dre dusnt work on snoops album.........its obviously that eitha that snoop didnt want him on the album or dre didnt wanna work on it.........so when its time for detox dre will be like i dont need snoop for this if he didnt need me or snoop will be like he refused to produce for me so why would i rap for him u know??
but i jus hope dres on paid the cost......
and snoop on detox..........cuz ya just cant fuck with the illest pair not just on the west but anywhere
pz
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Snoop said himself that Dre wouldn't be on Paid the cost on MTV2
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Snoop said himself that Dre wouldn't be on Paid the cost on MTV2
what!?!?!?!? when was this?
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last week. it was mtv2 hiphop at the vma's. it was with dj clue and lala
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I don't get it y the hell did dre produce soo many tracks for busta rhymes and not even 1 track for his homie snoop. i don't snoop that snoop wouldn't want dre in his album cuz he knows he gets the best beats from dre.
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Im so Glad u brought up this topic Incognito...I really wana know why dre is'nt gona be on Snoop album...Im wondering if dre iz mad at snoop for da truth so he decide to say fuck snoop!! i ain't doin shit for him or Snoop say fuck dre cuz he ain't down with the westcoast no more and he's being bias about the j.d and suge beef....i really would want a dre production but if not its not a big deal cuz dre have'nt produce nothing too special for iz home boyz since lately....even tho lay low was a hit i was'nt really feelin it...not to mention warren g single and mack 10...I think Dre is'nt down with the west no more cuz he have'nt had 1 artist from da west on iz label....I think still think da album gona be dope....da doggfather was dope without dre plus dre only produce 6 tracks for snoop last 2 albums and i've heard better tracks on da album from dj quick,battlecat etc...Remember even tho u guys don't like the neptunes but face it they doin there thang right about now...jazzy pha production iz tight..Meech made a massive improvement...that kid that produce for roca-fella (jus blaze) or something like that iz dope....battlecat iz dope....hi-tek iz fuckin dope....so dont be surprise if sells well....peace
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selling aint a question it will sell but i dont know how it would be without dre they are the greatest tag team in the game
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I think the album still gonna be dope as fucc because when Dre produce for Snoop he only produce like 3 or 4 tracks thats it and for me Tha Doggfather album was classic and didnt have no Dre on it also Snoopy will have all the dopest producers in the rap game on his album so its still gonna be off the hizzle so a Snoop album without dre wont kill nobody but a Dre album without Snoop could be weird as fucc
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dre being a bitch he wont diss suge who personally insulted him but he'll diss jd who only dissed him production wise
i use to be the biggest dre fan but he dissapoints me more
n more not caring bout his west rap fam
but the east money makers
Only xzibit is being laced and x not even in aftermath
and x a bitch too
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In a strange way Im glad that dre is not producing on the album. dre has not made one beat in the last year or so that I have felt. his beats on xzibit's shit was so basic. even on the last meal his beats were basic. I think hi-tek,alchemist,rick roc, just blaze,fred wreck and a ton of others have been more consistant than dre. multiply is geting no love out here in L.A. the source was bashing dre for taking so long on rakim so snoop not fucking wit dre is no suprise.
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Well, now that it seems Snoop said himself Dre won't be on this of course sucks...kind of.
The last time we heard Snoop and Dre together was the last song on "The Wash." That has been 10 months ago just about. In recent years Dre has provided some memorable moments on SNoop's albums. "Bitch Please" def. brought the West up ahead in the line and got X into the mix of things with both of em. On that same album Dre was really gearing up for "2001" which got me all excited hearing bits of his new sound.
IF THIS MEANS DRE GOTTA FORGO SNOOP'S LP TO GET "OH MY GOD" DONE QUICKER...AND GET "DETOX" MOVING...THEN SO BE IT!
Then a year later, when the West was rolling over everyone with "Restless" and "Tha Last Meal" Dre came with 3 fat joints and one funky intro. "Lay Low" was a single and it was dope with Dre making that phone call in the beginning.
I don't know. It looks like Snoop REALLY IS trying to move on as an artist like he said. I guess maybe without Dre, just for this album prolly.
Still, he got producers to fill spots like Premier, Neptunes, Just Blaze, Fredwreck, Quaze and Battlecat. Still though, this will feel pretty weird.
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its official...paid the cost will suck...think about it..on every snoop cd there is like at least 3 really really dope songs...and usually theyre dre produced....this sucks....
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True, Dre is the best of all time. But right now, there are better producers out there than Dre. Soopa is hella tight. Battle Cat is sick. Fred Wreck is dope as hell. you know?? so just cause there ain't no Dre on the album, don't be so quick to hate. Forgive me for saying so.
and Snoop will DEF be on Dre's Detox. think about it. Snoop has done so many albums. But Dre only comes along every 5 years and drops a Bomb. So of course Snoop will be on it. It's a Dre album. and it will be his last.
-Nate
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Damn!!! I was hopin' that now that Snoop has bounced off No Limit then he was gonna start havin' more Dre produced shit on his albums!!! He is free now and he still dont want no Dre!! Damn!! When "2001" dropped it was dope cuz I thought that Snoop and Dre was back and they was gonna keep makin' shit together till they both call it quits.....but now it looks like Snoop is tryin' to make way for his own producers and sayin' fuck Dre....dont know if this will be a good move for Snoop but we will have to see!! This could turn out good for Snoop tho cuz he could finally hush tha hataz that say Snoop cant make a classic album without Dre.......or it could hurt Snoop and make tha Snoop hataz bust in they pants cuz Snoop cant do shit without Dre and this album just proved it!!! Do yo thang Snoopy......this is yo chance to hush tha hataz wit a non-Dre album!!!
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i think snoop wanted this album to have no dre. he wants to prove to the people that he can make a succesful album without the highlighted dre tracks. im dre was ready to give snoop beats, but snoop just chose not to this time. hes got sumthin to prove.
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Snoop's also got to promote Dogghouse. I'm sure he wants to showcase the producers that he's planning on using all over Dogghouse records. Dre should grab Snoop though. It's his last album, and it wouldn't feel right without Snoop on it.
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Damn muthafuckas is acting like Dre is the hottest shit...Dre's producing is lax nowadays look at the shit he's been doing for Eminem...Buisiness was the only tight beat and even that sounds like some of his other shit...Dre was untouchable back in the Death Row days and for a minute in like 99-2000 but shit sounds stagnant now...Snoop's first single is produced by the Neptunes who are some of the top cats right now...He's got Primo, Hi-Tek, Jazze Pha, Fred Wreck these are some dope producers...
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LoL @ all the ppl blaming Dre for APPARENTLY not being on Snoops album.
Maybe Snoop isn't Mr.Nice-guy-cool-with-everybody at the end of the day.
Snoop has had more beef than a steakhouse lately, he been in beef with: Xzibit ::), Eastsidaz ::), Ja Rule, Irv Gotti, Suge of course, and now also the whole Row-roster, & maybe Dre ::).
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You guys are so funny.The reason Dre isnt gonna produce on snoops album is simply one word,EGO.Snoops ego is way to big,hes writing checks that his talent cant cash.Dre said on LA's power 106 that he was going to produce on paid the cost.He said this back in my,so this tells me that Snoop dont want him on the album.BIG MISTAKE!!Oh and could someone please tell me which source magazine bashed Dre for taking too long on OH My GOD??I would like to read that.Everyone knows that Dre and snoop have trmendous chemistry so Dre's absence is simply an ego issue.
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even though i'm one of snoops biggest fans i gotta say this has got to be the stupidest move he could make. I mean okay i know he wants to prove he's tight without dre but c'mon snoop everyone knows that u and dre are the tightest combo n the industry and it wouldn't hurt to have just 1 dre cut on there. Also i see people sayin oh yeah snoop still has the best producers int he game? who gives a fuck? if snoop don't got no chemistry wit these producers then it don't mean shit. like i see premo, just blaze, neptunes, like c'mon seroiusly i don't know how snooops gonna sound over these beats but i still think snoops first single will be fucekn huge jsut because of the fact that the neptunes produced it will be big int he clubs but i dunno how the true fans are gonna take it. Oh well imma be there waitin at the store right when the album drops to pick it up and i hope it's a 4.5 at least or i'll be disappointed this time around.
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people swear likethis is the end of the world, i'm sure dre will produce on a snoop album again...........anyway if snoop can make a really good album maybee his second best then it will prove alot.......then he can go back to the dre production
think about it someone said ego.........but if you snoop you have your own label artist ect dre don't produce none of them exept him, and snoop has some of the best producers at his fingertips then he has to wait and hope for daddy dre to come and produce some tracks for him
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people swear likethis is the end of the world, i'm sure dre will produce on a snoop album again...........anyway if snoop can make a really good album maybee his second best then it will prove alot.......then he can go back to the dre production
think about it someone said ego.........but if you snoop you have your own label artist ect dre don't produce none of them exept him, and snoop has some of the best producers at his fingertips then he has to wait and hope for daddy dre to come and produce some tracks for him
then you wait for daddy dre.....its just like shaq and kobe having beef with each other and shit they work good seperate but they are unstopable when they are together same situation...why wait and see how you do on your own when you two can make the best thats why i just want to see a snoop cd produced by just dre...i honestly would rather see snoop right now working with dre on ohh my god then rakim cause i already know that snoop and dre got great chemistry im sure i will love oh my god but you know what im saying its Dre and Snoop....gotta love that......i think after detox and paid the cost they should get together and talk about something like this....maybe that can be their exit! have them retire with the last cd just a Dre and Snoop collabo damn that would be the shit but lets just hope they dont retire soon cause we need them both in the game atleast i do
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he should just have soopafly, daz, and fredwreck produce the whole thing
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Also i see people sayin oh yeah snoop still has the best producers int he game? who gives a fuck? if snoop don't got no chemistry wit these producers then it don't mean shit.
Word.
Chemistry Is Key Between An Artist And A Producer. If They Dont Feel 100% Comfortable With Each Other HOW Can They Make The BEST Music?!
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i hope it's a 4.5 at least or i'll be disappointed this time around.
hell yeah i agree wit that. if snoop is supossed to one of the greatest than he has to make at least a 4.5 album. snoop's last couple of albums have been 3's and 4's. if this shit aint a 4.5 at the leat or a real strong 4. im gonna be disappointed. i dont just want 3 good songs and the rest are sometimes good sometimes o.k. this shit better be strong. especially as much as he's talking about it being so strong. they were talking it about it on mtv. and said that it would be better than doggystyle, even though I know thats not true i better be able to compare the two.
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its official...paid the cost will suck...think about it..on every snoop cd there is like at least 3 really really dope songs...and usually theyre dre produced....this sucks....
How do u know already ???
::) i do not agree
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I dunno how to feel 'bout this. I'm sure Snoop can make a tight album with anybody, but still... no Dre? Sounds a bit off...
And if Snoop eventually ain't on Detox, then I think we can safely say the world's comin' to its end. Come on, it's SNOOP & DRE. Just like Andre & Big Boi. Biggie & Puffy. You can't take them niggaz apart! (Unless the other dies...)
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evryone should stop hate'n on dre hes do'enhis thang and snoops doing his i agree when there together they cant be stoped but i think snoop wants toprove him self without dre as doggfather wasent as big as doggystyle which was produced by dre soi think snoop wants to make a shit hot album without dre.
theres no beef thats what i think and thell work together on detox.
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dre being a bitch he wont diss suge who personally insulted him but he'll diss jd who only dissed him production wise
i use to be the biggest dre fan but he dissapoints me more
n more not caring bout his west rap fam
but the east money makers
Only xzibit is being laced and x not even in aftermath
and x a bitch too
What He said.
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Damn muthafuckas is acting like Dre is the hottest shit...Dre's producing is lax nowadays look at the shit he's been doing for Eminem...Buisiness was the only tight beat and even that sounds like some of his other shit...Dre was untouchable back in the Death Row days and for a minute in like 99-2000 but shit sounds stagnant now...Snoop's first single is produced by the Neptunes who are some of the top cats right now...He's got Primo, Hi-Tek, Jazze Pha, Fred Wreck these are some dope producers...
I agreewith that, too. Dre needs to change the game again. He IS the greatest producer, but you wouldn't know it by his recent stuff. It was all dope, but he's been pulling the same card for years now.
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Ah, I write too much.
I think Another thing, like they hinted above, is that Snoop is trying to keep this album family. I don't see dre rushing to produce for Kokane, or Latoya, Or Soopafly, who's been down with him for years, or trying to get with E.White, who's hot. I think snoop's just like, you know, all these cats been hookin my artists up, I'm gonna use them on my album, so they get the money, and not dre, since dre's got his own thing going, and don't have time to produce for all my artists.
I mean, in that case, it ain't really dre's fault, snoop's just trying to spread the money a little better.
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As long as snoop makes a dope album, I could give a fuck who he has producing it, as long as they are dope cuts. As of the last year Fred Wreck has made just as dope if not better cuts than Dre. I would love to see Dre produce and rap on a song with snoop though. I would actually like Daz, Warren, and Soopafly to produce for snoop. But hell if I can bump most of the songs on the album, and not feel disapointed then I could care less if Dre does any work on it.
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snoop is his own man..we all know that..and its good he is giving these other producers a chance or should i say some of these producers are giving snoop a chance......
Snoop knows..and anybody in the industry knows....and his fans knows........he flows his best..over a Dr. Dre banger....come on now....the wash? that song grew on me and i still like it.... maybe he wants to expand and spread his wings without dre........... well he did that with his first no limit release.....then dre came in with bitch please....shit..i even liked bitch please II
then on the last meal......dre came with heat...and snoop was alive on the dr. dre beat...........sigh...snooop....its cool to want to try new sounds....but damn....u and your voice only work the best with dr drizzzaaay......
im sure they will all ways have love for each other...but as they get older..they are growing in different directions......
but....snoop with out dre...is like
corn flakes with out milk..and sugar...
like a squirrel without a nut!!!!!!!
a true crip not knowing how to c walk!!!
lol... i will still buy his music...but aint nuthin like a g thang baaaaaabbbbyyyyy.....hopefully snoop remembers that...
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somebody sayed earlier they at least want to be able to compare it to doggystyle, i could give a fuck about doggystyle it won't have a chance to beat it, but want i am looking for is a album that is no doubt his second best i mean really above top dogg and last meal ect we haven't had that yet. if this album ain't that or at least a 4.5 then i will def be dissipionted
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Or, maybe Dre is just riding out his "2001" sound cause he is putting together is "Detox" sound AT THE SAME TIME. He is prolly concentrating on that then his "2001" beats that he has been shelling out of late.
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Or, maybe Dre is just riding out his "2001" sound cause he is putting together is "Detox" sound AT THE SAME TIME. He is prolly concentrating on that then his "2001" beats that he has been shelling out of late.
Could be right, never thought about that, good point
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In a strange way Im glad that dre is not producing on the album. dre has not made one beat in the last year or so that I have felt. his beats on xzibit's shit was so basic. even on the last meal his beats were basic. I think hi-tek,alchemist,rick roc, just blaze,fred wreck and a ton of others have been more consistant than dre. multiply is geting no love out here in L.A. the source was bashing dre for taking so long on rakim so snoop not fucking wit dre is no suprise.
once again, u are on point
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even though i'm one of snoops biggest fans i gotta say this has got to be the stupidest move he could make. I mean okay i know he wants to prove he's tight without dre but c'mon snoop everyone knows that u and dre are the tightest combo n the industry and it wouldn't hurt to have just 1 dre cut on there. Also i see people sayin oh yeah snoop still has the best producers int he game? who gives a fuck? if snoop don't got no chemistry wit these producers then it don't mean shit. like i see premo, just blaze, neptunes, like c'mon seroiusly i don't know how snooops gonna sound over these beats but i still think snoops first single will be fucekn huge jsut because of the fact that the neptunes produced it will be big int he clubs but i dunno how the true fans are gonna take it. Oh well imma be there waitin at the store right when the album drops to pick it up and i hope it's a 4.5 at least or i'll be disappointed this time around.
listen.. yall are missing the point.. Snoop is one of the few that has had the privelege to witness and LEARN from dre in person. From the work ethic to the pursuit of perfection. Snoop is a grown ass man. He should know what it takes to make hits and just do it. All this talk about dre/snoop chemistry is nonsense. The reason everyone likes what he and dre does is because dre pushes his lazy ass. And nobody else does. Plain and simple. Untill snoop digs down deep and strives for his potential, It dont matter who he works with. And that is real talk!!
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listen.. yall are missing the point.. Snoop is one of the few that has had the privelege to witness and LEARN from dre in person. From the work ethic to the pursuit of perfection. Snoop is a grown ass man. He should know what it takes to make hits and just do it. All this talk about dre/snoop chemistry is nonsense. The reason everyone likes what he and dre does is because dre pushes his lazy ass. And nobody else does. Plain and simple. Untill snoop digs down deep and strives for his potential, It dont matter who he works with. And that is real talk!!
thats one of the best post ive read about snoop.
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thats one of the best post ive read about snoop.
thanks mayn.. and its more evident with eminems on growing sucess. lets think about it... eminem has really picked up on dre's hit making formula. thats why he is able to make hits himself without dre. dre doesnt do as much producing as em on his own projects. but yet how many artist in hip hop have had the ongrowing sucess of em? off the top of my head, pac and biggie... not saying where em's place is among them, but he knows what his fans want. he knows how to reach his potential