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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Drudge on January 25, 2005, 07:58:19 AM
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It looks like Murdaaaaahhhh is ovahhhhhhh!!!
Date: 1/25/2005 2:15 am
According to sources, Murder Inc mogul Irv “Gotti” Lorenzo, Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff, and Ja Rule’s manager Ron “Gutta” Robinson will be arrested shortly for allegedly laundering millions of dollars in illegal drug money.
Federal agents will definitely make arrests this week, the source stated, but didn’t indicate when nor the exact charges that would be levied. This alleged plan does not include rapper Ja Rule or singer Ashanti, sources with AllHipHop.com said.
The federal government will reportedly persecute the Hip-Hop mogul and his cohorts under the RICO Act (The Racketeering In Corrupt Organization Act), usually reserved for organized crime outfits.
In Jan. 2003, the government raided the Manhattan offices of Murder Inc. seeking to solidify their investigation. Agents where probing whether or not Gotti helped Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff in laundering funds from drug sales through his successful record label.
Lorezno and those that support him have vehemently denied any wrongdoing, but maintained that McGriff was an associate that no longer sells drugs. Gotti also alleges that his start-up funds were derived from distributor Def Jam, not drugs.
Despite his claims, the government has tightened its case against the mogul and his associates.
Ron “Gutta” Robinson of Murder Inc. was arrested and indicted on money laundering on Nov. 17, 2004 by federal prosecutors. They charged that the 29 year old conspired with others to transfer over $1 million through the label. Murder Inc. Prior to that, bookkeeper Cynthia Brent, 39, was arrested and indicted on Nov. 8, 2004 on similar charges.
Later in 2003, Gotti attempted to shed the negativity surrounding him by changing the name of his label Murder Inc. to The Inc. At a press conference, he also denounced the name Gotti, saying he would use his real name Irv Lorenzo.
At press time, representatives for Irv Gotti and The Inc were not available or refused request for comment.
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I dont hope thats true cuzzzz I really wanted to check BlackChilds album.. by the way if Irv got arrested will INC automaticaly stop or some1 gone takeover??? hope it aint 50 lol ;D ;D
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LoL...50 running murder inc..that'd be funny
besides that..don't really care what happens to Murder inc or Irv ;D
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lol isn't Murder Inc. owned by Def Jam :idea: so Jay-Z will takeover.
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Allhiphop.com is rarely wrong I hope its fake though
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LoL...50 running murder inc..that'd be funny
besides that..don't really care what happens to Murder inc or Irv ;D
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AHAHAHA. Dumbasses you're making good money, why get into that drug shit?
If it is true, thats some fucking dumb shit on the Incs part.
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mm didnt they start with the drug money or sum.. like that.... and he was probably doing favor for his man supreme and get alilbit of extras.. and if you have been a real gangster it isnt that easy to stop being gangsta... the vibe is addiction get adrenely kick of it... same as playing games.. or using coke or whateva..
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Murder Inc. was the real niggas afterall. unlike yall favorite rapper mr "i got shot 9 times ima thug now"
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Murder Inc. was the real niggas afterall. unlike yall favorite rapper mr "i got shot 9 times ima thug now"
Damn, so getting arrested makes you a thug now?
(http://www.mugshots.com/IMAGES/Mugshot__50-Cent-a.jpg)
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mm u probably right.. it makes u a thug... but in my eyes irv and his friend supreme are more then a thug... they organized they more like mobsters.. i even read a article about supreme once before I even knew about murder inc and 50 and damn he was doing some heavy shit if it was true what was written in it.. but then again internet is full of bullshit...
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if "murder inc" stands for McGriff then yeah "they" were real after all. that dosn't change anything about Ja rule being one fake ass busta, being down with somebody doesn't make you shit. Being a criminal is one thing, Ja Rule is a criminal for knowing about it without reporing it to the cops alone, but how does that make him "real". He's talkin bout being a thug from the streets, shooting people ect, yet when he needs 50 stabbed he sends Black Child cause he ain't got the balls to do it. 50 was a street hustler hat's pretty much official and when he needed Ja's ass whooped he did it himself.
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if "murder inc" stands for McGriff then yeah "they" were real after all. that dosn't change anything about Ja rule being one fake ass busta, being down with somebody doesn't make you shit. Being a criminal is one thing, Ja Rule is a criminal for knowing about it without reporing it to the cops alone, but how does that make him "real". He's talkin bout being a thug from the streets, shooting people ect, yet when he needs 50 stabbed he sends Black Child cause he ain't got the balls to do it. 50 was a street hustler hat's pretty much official and when he needed Ja's ass whooped he did it himself.
mm did he whoop jas ass?? no! did 50 make threats yes did he live up what he said no.. if u got real homiez you will know that ja didnt ask black child to give 50 a knife... and by the way why ya bringing ja in to this.. its about murderinc.. they family if one of them does things they all in it.... and atleast ja doesnt snitch.. unlike 50..
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who did 50 snitch on?
i dont even know i always hear he snitches but who did he snitch on?
because they have that restraining order but a restraining order is place by the police you dont need to place it urself
did he do anything else to be called a snitch?
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yes he has made a song called ghetto quran where he was telling things about street thats probably why he got shot.... and he said sum about murder inc were money launderers.... but he always talks bullshit calling them pussys and money launderers.... same as calling shyne that he soften out and later on he was trying to sign shyne(he claims em was the one who was signing him to gunit.. I dont give a shit about it believe or not believe it I believe it). man his a pussy 2 cuz black said 50 was holding a gun when he was at 50s place and blackchild a knife 50 didnt do shit.. yeah you can say 50 didnt want to go to jail but why he having big mouth and when it really happens his like whoa be easy man??? and later on calling him a wacko rapper... thats a bitch move and if its true that 50 ordered a restrain his a pussy bitch and a snitch... I didnt see things really happen but I really believe that 50 is a snitch..
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meh i dunno who to believe and really now days i dont care
its like watching wrestling its all fake but its fun to watch but some kids just take it wayyy too serious and argue about it so much
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meh i dunno who to believe and really now days i dont care
its like watching wrestling its all fake but its fun to watch but some kids just take it wayyy too serious and argue about it so much
lol you right there.. but I just like to discuss and let peeps see there is another way to look at sum point then the most look at it.... cuz what most peeps know isnt always right... thats same as going against teachers and showing them they are wrong although they know they are wrong not that they will say they are wrong... but i just luv to know that they know that they are wrong... yeah sumtimes it gets me "spelled" or whateva is said in english here in dutch we say "geschorst".. maybe that a dutchiez can translate that..
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haha yea i love arguing too thats the best part of a message board is arguing about shit
but the beef arguments are played out because nobody knows what really happeend, we're all just guessin shit so we can never be for certain about what we say u know
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mm did he whoop jas ass?? no! did 50 make threats yes did he live up what he said no.. if u got real homiez you will know that ja didnt ask black child to give 50 a knife... and by the way why ya bringing ja in to this.. its about murderinc.. they family if one of them does things they all in it.... and atleast ja doesnt snitch.. unlike 50..
let em know!
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yea thats true. but I dont like 50 anywayz... 1. for making ghetto quran(how dare he uses the word quran 2) (its a fact) check the internet you will find it..... 2. for getting knifed by blackchild( some1 he called pussy) and later on on a awards show giving him the award for the wackest rapper(Its a fact).. 3. dissing ja rule and at the same time his doing what disses he spitted to jarule.... like making rnb hooks like making a clip of him making yakusa scared and all that crap(its a fact).... these are facts I think i can make more facts and more geussing.. but too tired Ima gone smoke some JUAnA(POT) and listen to NAS and sleep sleeep.lol... ;D ;D 8) 8)
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if "murder inc" stands for McGriff then yeah "they" were real after all. that dosn't change anything about Ja rule being one fake ass busta, being down with somebody doesn't make you shit. Being a criminal is one thing, Ja Rule is a criminal for knowing about it without reporing it to the cops alone, but how does that make him "real". He's talkin bout being a thug from the streets, shooting people ect, yet when he needs 50 stabbed he sends Black Child cause he ain't got the balls to do it. 50 was a street hustler hat's pretty much official and when he needed Ja's ass whooped he did it himself.
mm did he whoop jas ass?? no! did 50 make threats yes did he live up what he said no.. if u got real homiez you will know that ja didnt ask black child to give 50 a knife... and by the way why ya bringing ja in to this.. its about murderinc.. they family if one of them does things they all in it.... and atleast ja doesnt snitch.. unlike 50..
did 50 whoop Ja's ass? yes. did 50 make threads he didn't live up to ? yes, just like every other gangsta rapper ever who has been into beefs, inculding Tray Deee, C-Bo, Lynch, Eazy, Jayo, Dresta, and everybody else who's considered gangsta by pretty much everybody. Gangsta rappers exaggerate in their rhymes, if you call it faking then they are all fakes in your eyes
"if one of them does things they all in it" = false. If I know about my homie being or boss being into that kinda shit, I won't snitch, even if I usually was a snitch I wouldn't for the simple fact that he's a homie / my boss. Would it make me gangsta when I myself never did shit in my life ? I don't think so. As I said before, being down with somebody doesn't make you shit
and that restraining order thing is a joke, what everybody seems to be callin 50 a snitch for is speaking on certain things on wax but if that makes you a snitch then 50's enemies are all snitchez themselves (yuk for saying Suge slapped Game when he's on parole and been locked up before just for slappin somebody, sticky for saying Ja stabbed 50 ect.. )
"man his a pussy 2 cuz black said 50 was holding a gun when he was at 50s place and blackchild a knife 50 didnt do shit.. "
50 said it was dark in the room, don't remember anyting about a gun. We don't know who's speaking the truth here so we can't judge it
Everybody's speakin on that kinda shit, just cause 50 is as famous as he is it doesn't make it snitching.
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AHAHAHA. Dumbasses you're making good money, why get into that drug shit?
If it is true, thats some fucking dumb shit on the Incs part.
^^ thats what i say
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if "murder inc" stands for McGriff then yeah "they" were real after all. that dosn't change anything about Ja rule being one fake ass busta, being down with somebody doesn't make you shit. Being a criminal is one thing, Ja Rule is a criminal for knowing about it without reporing it to the cops alone, but how does that make him "real". He's talkin bout being a thug from the streets, shooting people ect, yet when he needs 50 stabbed he sends Black Child cause he ain't got the balls to do it. 50 was a street hustler hat's pretty much official and when he needed Ja's ass whooped he did it himself.
mm did he whoop jas ass?? no! did 50 make threats yes did he live up what he said no.. if u got real homiez you will know that ja didnt ask black child to give 50 a knife... and by the way why ya bringing ja in to this.. its about murderinc.. they family if one of them does things they all in it.... and atleast ja doesnt snitch.. unlike 50..
did 50 whoop Ja's ass? yes. did 50 make threads he didn't live up to ? yes, just like every other gangsta rapper ever who has been into beefs, inculding Tray Deee, C-Bo, Lynch, Eazy, Jayo, Dresta, and everybody else who's considered gangsta by pretty much everybody. Gangsta rappers exaggerate in their rhymes, if you call it faking then they are all fakes in your eyes
"if one of them does things they all in it" = false. If I know about my homie being or boss being into that kinda shit, I won't snitch, even if I usually was a snitch I wouldn't for the simple fact that he's a homie / my boss. Would it make me gangsta when I myself never did shit in my life ? I don't think so. As I said before, being down with somebody doesn't make you shit
and that restraining order thing is a joke, what everybody seems to be callin 50 a snitch for is speaking on certain things on wax but if that makes you a snitch then 50's enemies are all snitchez themselves (yuk for saying Suge slapped Game when he's on parole and been locked up before just for slappin somebody, sticky for saying Ja stabbed 50 ect.. )
"man his a pussy 2 cuz black said 50 was holding a gun when he was at 50s place and blackchild a knife 50 didnt do shit.. "
50 said it was dark in the room, don't remember anyting about a gun. We don't know who's speaking the truth here so we can't judge it
Everybody's speakin on that kinda shit, just cause 50 is as famous as he is it doesn't make it snitching.
"did 50 whoop Ja's ass? yes"
I dont believe that just as you dont believe that 50 had a gun while blackchild had a knife and 50 didnt do shit and more think I believe that u dont believe
"Gangsta rappers exaggerate in their rhymes, if you call it faking then they are all fakes in your eyes"
if one of them got kicked ass or knifed or shot by someone they dissed then yea I think they are fake....
"Would it make me gangsta when I myself never did shit in my life"
how the hell do you know ja never did shit in his life... but in murderinc being family and if one of them doest things they all are is like if I knocked down and my brother or comrads see them peeps that did it they will probably kick his ass or whateva not that I will just sit down..
"(yuk for saying Suge slapped Game when he's on parole and been locked up before just for slappin somebody"
mm yuk got permission to say that, he goes down with J-Prince thats a Pal of Suge so if suge felt like thats snitching yuk would have never said that but as for 50 he aint gettin down with Prince nor he was getting down with Supreme.
I didnt like 50 before he was famous you know cuz I always was feeling he was snitching cuz the ghetto quran shit... but hey you can call him a snitch or not but pussy he is....
but anywayz It feels like me a fanboy for choosing murder inc side.. mm but I aint... its just that peeps always on 50s side when someone talks about murderinc And Like I always say there is a different way of look then most of us look at some point...
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"did 50 whoop Ja's ass? yes"
I dont believe that just as you dont believe that 50 had a gun while blackchild had a knife and 50 didnt do shit and more think I believe that u dont believe
"Gangsta rappers exaggerate in their rhymes, if you call it faking then they are all fakes in your eyes"
if one of them got kicked ass or knifed or shot by someone they dissed then yea I think they are fake....
"Would it make me gangsta when I myself never did shit in my life"
how the hell do you know ja never did shit in his life... but in murderinc being family and if one of them doest things they all are is like if I knocked down and my brother or comrads see them peeps that did it they will probably kick his ass or whateva not that I will just sit down..
"(yuk for saying Suge slapped Game when he's on parole and been locked up before just for slappin somebody"
mm yuk got permission to say that, he goes down with J-Prince thats a Pal of Suge so if suge felt like thats snitching yuk would have never said that but as for 50 he aint gettin down with Prince nor he was getting down with Supreme.
I didnt like 50 before he was famous you know cuz I always was feeling he was snitching cuz the ghetto quran shit... but hey you can call him a snitch or not but pussy he is....
but anywayz It feels like me a fanboy for choosing murder inc side.. mm but I aint... its just that peeps always on 50s side when someone talks about murderinc And Like I always say there is a different way of look then most of us look at some point...
well it's been confirmed that Ja got his jewellery or something sent back and how would 50 get his hands on that shit if not by robbing Ja as he claimes to have done.
"if one of them got kicked ass or knifed or shot by someone they dissed then yea I think they are fake.... "
50 blew shortly after he got stabbed and he probably didn't wanna risk his career by taking revenge on Black Child, Ja got his ass kicked by 50 and he still disses him and never did shit himself so you gotta consider him fake too. (when the beef first started Ja got his ass kicked too for tryna front which been confirmed in numerous articles so even if you think 50 randomly found Ja's jewellery it's still a fact that Ja got his ass kicked )
Yuk didn't get permission for shit, Suge didn't even slap Game in reality, Yuk snitched a lie. Bad Azz, Crooked I and them would be snitches too for talking bout the beatdown and that's just another example from the top of my head there's loads of other examples, as I said before, everybody is speaking on that kinda shit and nobody gets called a snitch for it. Long as you don't say it yourself it ain't worth shit to the feds, it's not like 50 revealed anything he just mentioned something that everybody knew and Ja himself been shouting McGriff, the feds knew about the Inc's connection to him way before and 50's word doesn't mean shit, it's not like he provided some kinda evidence by simply mentioning the "rumor" that everybody knew of before.
Being down with the dude you talking about makes it actually worse since the feds could use that as an argument while an enemie like 50 talkin some more shit about the inc doesn't give them shit.
as for 50 being a pussy, I don't see why. He was a hussler and been locked up several times for it, once Ja tried to front he whooped his ass. the only the he "lost" yet was the stabbing but accordin to himself he was outnumbered. If 50 was the snitch and pussy you call him he would've gotten Black Child in the pen for stabbing him wouldn't he.
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"did 50 whoop Ja's ass? yes"
I dont believe that just as you dont believe that 50 had a gun while blackchild had a knife and 50 didnt do shit and more think I believe that u dont believe
"Gangsta rappers exaggerate in their rhymes, if you call it faking then they are all fakes in your eyes"
if one of them got kicked ass or knifed or shot by someone they dissed then yea I think they are fake....
"Would it make me gangsta when I myself never did shit in my life"
how the hell do you know ja never did shit in his life... but in murderinc being family and if one of them doest things they all are is like if I knocked down and my brother or comrads see them peeps that did it they will probably kick his ass or whateva not that I will just sit down..
"(yuk for saying Suge slapped Game when he's on parole and been locked up before just for slappin somebody"
mm yuk got permission to say that, he goes down with J-Prince thats a Pal of Suge so if suge felt like thats snitching yuk would have never said that but as for 50 he aint gettin down with Prince nor he was getting down with Supreme.
I didnt like 50 before he was famous you know cuz I always was feeling he was snitching cuz the ghetto quran shit... but hey you can call him a snitch or not but pussy he is....
but anywayz It feels like me a fanboy for choosing murder inc side.. mm but I aint... its just that peeps always on 50s side when someone talks about murderinc And Like I always say there is a different way of look then most of us look at some point...
well it's been confirmed that Ja got his jewellery or something sent back and how would 50 get his hands on that shit if not by robbing Ja as he claimes to have done.
"if one of them got kicked ass or knifed or shot by someone they dissed then yea I think they are fake.... "
50 blew shortly after he got stabbed and he probably didn't wanna risk his career by taking revenge on Black Child, Ja got his ass kicked by 50 and he still disses him and never did shit himself so you gotta consider him fake too. (when the beef first started Ja got his ass kicked too for tryna front which been confirmed in numerous articles so even if you think 50 randomly found Ja's jewellery it's still a fact that Ja got his ass kicked )
Yuk didn't get permission for shit, Suge didn't even slap Game in reality, Yuk snitched a lie. Bad Azz, Crooked I and them would be snitches too for talking bout the beatdown and that's just another example from the top of my head there's loads of other examples, as I said before, everybody is speaking on that kinda shit and nobody gets called a snitch for it. Long as you don't say it yourself it ain't worth shit to the feds, it's not like 50 revealed anything he just mentioned something that everybody knew and Ja himself been shouting McGriff, the feds knew about the Inc's connection to him way before and 50's word doesn't mean shit, it's not like he provided some kinda evidence by simply mentioning the "rumor" that everybody knew of before.
Being down with the dude you talking about makes it actually worse since the feds could use that as an argument while an enemie like 50 talkin some more shit about the inc doesn't give them shit.
as for 50 being a pussy, I don't see why. He was a hussler and been locked up several times for it, once Ja tried to front he whooped his ass. the only the he "lost" yet was the stabbing but accordin to himself he was outnumbered. If 50 was the snitch and pussy you call him he would've gotten Black Child in the pen for stabbing him wouldn't he.
"well it's been confirmed that Ja got his jewellery or something sent back and how would 50 get his hands on that shit if not by robbing Ja as he claimes to have done."
wasnt members(could be groupies) of gunit peeps that did it... but ja got his jewelry back nobody sent it to him(that doesnt make any sense) so that makes him more powerfulll cuz anybody can jump on peeps but getting it back must mean peeps are really scared or what eva.....
why did 50 get shot?? wasnt it by mcgriff or his men cuz 50 had a too big of mouth...?? dont come around about noo it wasnt mcgriff asociates cuz every1 knows it was....
OK OK you proven that there isnt a fact(roumors yes) that would make 50 a snitch.... but there isnt a fact that would make ja a pussy.. dont come around about 50 was hustla and ja wasnt ja was probably a hustla 2 but he was doing a better job in hustling..
and by the way about that 50 lost only once... you forgetting the shots???
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lol @ these all these fucking clowns.
lets get some things straight.
doing time doesnt make you hard. selling drugs doesnt make you hard. getting shot doesnt make you hard.
preme killed 50 cents mother and was the one who had 50 shot up. hes also the one who had e-money bags hit up because money bags bragged about killing one of his men. 50 kept running his mouth because he knew he couldnt do anything about it, so if he kept the hip hop feds on preme, they would slip up and finally get caught. lol @ 50 cent being official when he stole his name from a real street hustler in nyc...shut the fuck up, you idiots know nothing. the only bodies 50 caught were the ones jimmy iovine told him to make up, to make him look "hard" for all the white hip hop kids. cause we all know this is the same faggot who lied about doing a 3-9 when he really went to bootcamp. i bet this nigga snitched on them too...
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its jaaaaaaaailtime!!!
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"well it's been confirmed that Ja got his jewellery or something sent back and how would 50 get his hands on that shit if not by robbing Ja as he claimes to have done."
wasnt members(could be groupies) of gunit peeps that did it... but ja got his jewelry back nobody sent it to him(that doesnt make any sense) so that makes him more powerfulll cuz anybody can jump on peeps but getting it back must mean peeps are really scared or what eva.....
why did 50 get shot?? wasnt it by mcgriff or his men cuz 50 had a too big of mouth...?? dont come around about noo it wasnt mcgriff asociates cuz every1 knows it was....
OK OK you proven that there isnt a fact(roumors yes) that would make 50 a snitch.... but there isnt a fact that would make ja a pussy.. dont come around about 50 was hustla and ja wasnt ja was probably a hustla 2 but he was doing a better job in hustling..
and by the way about that 50 lost only once... you forgetting the shots???
they traded the jewellery for something else, they didn't just give it back. You don't rob a muthafucka you are scared too scared of to keep what you took from him, that doesn't make any sense.
well McGriff is of course way outta 50's league, I said it in my first post, IF Murda Inc stands for McGriff then yeah they are real no doubt about that, I simply disagree with what you said about them being all into it just cause they affiliated with dude.
You are right in the end it's always gonne be more or less an assumption about Ja being pussy but that's always the case, I bet you wouldn't doubt that Eminem is not a G and never was and you couldn't ever prove it neither.
I just look at some facts (Ja gettin robbed, but instead of hollaring at the guy who robbed him, he tries to front on 50 after he sees him with the guy who robbed Ja. He was abviously too scared of dude. / Ja not hollaring at 50 himself neither when he knew where he was at without security, since black child got at him, others that been round him like DMX saying he's pussy as fuck and therefore not fucking with him anymore without a certain incident that cause the beef [I know they squashed it now, Ja tried to numerous times, seems like X finally accepted]) and conclude that Ja can't be all that. and Ja does come off like a retard pretty often I can't imagine he's clever enough to be a hussler that never got caught.
as for the bonafide retarded smartass above, I never said slangin or doin time makes anybody hard, it makes you a hussler, by definition, no matter how hard you are or are not.
And as I said before it doesn't take a smartass to fígure out 50 can't possibly fuck wit a mobbsta like McGriff. It's sad though to know that someone would seriously say somthing like 50 "kept the feds on preme". You think the fends been listeing to 50 on the radio and all of a sudden it hit em: "DUDE, you heard what 50 Cent just said ?? McGriff is involved into the drug biz ! and like that's not enough, them Murda Inc guys is down wit him, I'm serious, the rapper Ja Rule who shouts out McGriff from time to time and McGriff's childhood friend Irv Gotti, they are down with him ! and their label might be build on McGriff's drug money !!!! : time for some investigatin"
oh well let's all believe what we wanna believe
50 stealin a name has to do with a lack of originality, not with whether he was hustlin in the streets or not and what does race have to di with all this ? LoL if anything it woulda been made up for all hiphop kids to believe but keep bringin up irrelevant shit if you enjoy that.
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"well it's been confirmed that Ja got his jewellery or something sent back and how would 50 get his hands on that shit if not by robbing Ja as he claimes to have done."
wasnt members(could be groupies) of gunit peeps that did it... but ja got his jewelry back nobody sent it to him(that doesnt make any sense) so that makes him more powerfulll cuz anybody can jump on peeps but getting it back must mean peeps are really scared or what eva.....
why did 50 get shot?? wasnt it by mcgriff or his men cuz 50 had a too big of mouth...?? dont come around about noo it wasnt mcgriff asociates cuz every1 knows it was....
OK OK you proven that there isnt a fact(roumors yes) that would make 50 a snitch.... but there isnt a fact that would make ja a pussy.. dont come around about 50 was hustla and ja wasnt ja was probably a hustla 2 but he was doing a better job in hustling..
and by the way about that 50 lost only once... you forgetting the shots???
they traded the jewellery for something else, they didn't just give it back. You don't rob a muthafucka you are scared too scared of to keep what you took from him, that doesn't make any sense.
well McGriff is of course way outta 50's league, I said it in my first post, IF Murda Inc stands for McGriff then yeah they are real no doubt about that, I simply disagree with what you said about them being all into it just cause they affiliated with dude.
You are right in the end it's always gonne be more or less an assumption about Ja being pussy but that's always the case, I bet you wouldn't doubt that Eminem is not a G and never was and you couldn't ever prove it neither.
I just look at some facts (Ja gettin robbed, but instead of hollaring at the guy who robbed him, he tries to front on 50 after he sees him with the guy who robbed Ja. He was abviously too scared of dude. / Ja not hollaring at 50 himself neither when he knew where he was at without security, since black child got at him, others that been round him like DMX saying he's pussy as fuck and therefore not fucking with him anymore without a certain incident that cause the beef [I know they squashed it now, Ja tried to numerous times, seems like X finally accepted]) and conclude that Ja can't be all that. and Ja does come off like a retard pretty often I can't imagine he's clever enough to be a hussler that never got caught.
as for the bonafide retarded smartass above, I never said slangin or doin time makes anybody hard, it makes you a hussler, by definition, no matter how hard you are or are not.
And as I said before it doesn't take a smartass to fígure out 50 can't possibly fuck wit a mobbsta like McGriff. It's sad though to know that someone would seriously say somthing like 50 "kept the feds on preme". You think the fends been listeing to 50 on the radio and all of a sudden it hit em: "DUDE, you heard what 50 Cent just said ?? McGriff is involved into the drug biz ! and like that's not enough, them Murda Inc guys is down wit him, I'm serious, the rapper Ja Rule who shouts out McGriff from time to time and McGriff's childhood friend Irv Gotti, they are down with him ! and their label might be build on McGriff's drug money !!!! : time for some investigatin"
oh well let's all believe what we wanna believe
50 stealin a name has to do with a lack of originality, not with whether he was hustlin in the streets or not and what does race have to di with all this ? LoL if anything it woulda been made up for all hiphop kids to believe but keep bringin up irrelevant shit if you enjoy that.
mm it doesnt make sense that ja would trade something to get his jewelry dont say money cuz ja could buy enough jewelry hhim getting that jewelry was just some pride thing if you are a male you will understand cuz noway I would believe he paid money to get it back..... mm probably a mcgriff link...
wasnt ja a fist man in his neighbourhood with his comrads... I even read an article he sold coke... not that much probably.. but I wont believe he was a pussy in his time... oo yea 50 said that he was pussy but he said black was pussy mm he isnt he said irv is pussy mm he isnt he said whole murderinc is pussy mm well except for ashanti and baltimore I dont see pussy's...
anyway this thread getting boring so ima leave it in peace..
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"did 50 whoop Ja's ass? yes"
I dont believe that just as you dont believe that 50 had a gun while blackchild had a knife and 50 didnt do shit and more think I believe that u dont believe
Ja Rule has even admitted himself that 50 hit him in the discussion with Minister Farrakhan.
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"did 50 whoop Ja's ass? yes"
I dont believe that just as you dont believe that 50 had a gun while blackchild had a knife and 50 didnt do shit and more think I believe that u dont believe
Ja Rule has even admitted himself that 50 hit him in the discussion with Minister Farrakhan.
a hit and whoop ass is diffrent... and by the way you sure?? cause I dont remember him saying that against farrakhan....
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a hit and whoop ass is diffrent... and by the way you sure?? cause I dont remember him saying that against farrakhan....
Well I don't know if he whooped his ass, but that's what people say he did, and if Ja Rule even admits to it then it's probably true. I can't find the whole interview in audio but if you wanna hear it for yourself you can find it as a skit in the end of a mixtape track called 'Chase you outta here'. It's 50 cent over the Jay-Z track Lucifer, and in the end you can hear Farrakhan talking to Ja and this is what's said:
F: -Have you ever had contact with 50 other than through music?
Ja: -Yeah we... we.. we faught in Atlanta... um..
F: -Actual....an actual fight?
Ja: -Yeah, yeah we..we faught in Atlanta. We faught in um..New York in Hit Factory. I got...I wasn't feelin his whole style. And so.. it got a little violent. You know..um... He punched me...He's nothin
And that's it. It seems to me like he's really upset. And you've been talkin about snitchin this and that... If by snitchin you mean like tellin on somebody this is most definitely snitchin. I'm sorry if this makes Ja look bad, who you happen to like. But I'm just stating some facts and telling what I know. People are quick to call others snitches, but in reality almost every rapper talks about what other rappers have done in their songs...
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"well it's been confirmed that Ja got his jewellery or something sent back and how would 50 get his hands on that shit if not by robbing Ja as he claimes to have done."
wasnt members(could be groupies) of gunit peeps that did it... but ja got his jewelry back nobody sent it to him(that doesnt make any sense) so that makes him more powerfulll cuz anybody can jump on peeps but getting it back must mean peeps are really scared or what eva.....
why did 50 get shot?? wasnt it by mcgriff or his men cuz 50 had a too big of mouth...?? dont come around about noo it wasnt mcgriff asociates cuz every1 knows it was....
OK OK you proven that there isnt a fact(roumors yes) that would make 50 a snitch.... but there isnt a fact that would make ja a pussy.. dont come around about 50 was hustla and ja wasnt ja was probably a hustla 2 but he was doing a better job in hustling..
and by the way about that 50 lost only once... you forgetting the shots???
they traded the jewellery for something else, they didn't just give it back. You don't rob a muthafucka you are scared too scared of to keep what you took from him, that doesn't make any sense.
well McGriff is of course way outta 50's league, I said it in my first post, IF Murda Inc stands for McGriff then yeah they are real no doubt about that, I simply disagree with what you said about them being all into it just cause they affiliated with dude.
You are right in the end it's always gonne be more or less an assumption about Ja being pussy but that's always the case, I bet you wouldn't doubt that Eminem is not a G and never was and you couldn't ever prove it neither.
I just look at some facts (Ja gettin robbed, but instead of hollaring at the guy who robbed him, he tries to front on 50 after he sees him with the guy who robbed Ja. He was abviously too scared of dude. / Ja not hollaring at 50 himself neither when he knew where he was at without security, since black child got at him, others that been round him like DMX saying he's pussy as fuck and therefore not fucking with him anymore without a certain incident that cause the beef [I know they squashed it now, Ja tried to numerous times, seems like X finally accepted]) and conclude that Ja can't be all that. and Ja does come off like a retard pretty often I can't imagine he's clever enough to be a hussler that never got caught.
as for the bonafide retarded smartass above, I never said slangin or doin time makes anybody hard, it makes you a hussler, by definition, no matter how hard you are or are not.
And as I said before it doesn't take a smartass to fígure out 50 can't possibly fuck wit a mobbsta like McGriff. It's sad though to know that someone would seriously say somthing like 50 "kept the feds on preme". You think the fends been listeing to 50 on the radio and all of a sudden it hit em: "DUDE, you heard what 50 Cent just said ?? McGriff is involved into the drug biz ! and like that's not enough, them Murda Inc guys is down wit him, I'm serious, the rapper Ja Rule who shouts out McGriff from time to time and McGriff's childhood friend Irv Gotti, they are down with him ! and their label might be build on McGriff's drug money !!!! : time for some investigatin"
oh well let's all believe what we wanna believe
50 stealin a name has to do with a lack of originality, not with whether he was hustlin in the streets or not and what does race have to di with all this ? LoL if anything it woulda been made up for all hiphop kids to believe but keep bringin up irrelevant shit if you enjoy that.
learn how to read, you idiot. i said 50 was keeping the feds on preme, because he knows he cant do anything to a real kingpin. the feds have been on to him since the late 80's, you think someone from the middle of nowhere is going to inform me of that?
-50 lies about getting a 3-9, when he went to boot camp for 3 months, anyone who knows anything about the jail system knows that a felony equals jail time, even if you are a first time offender, and 50 wasnt. you be the judge.
50 does ghetto quaran and gets shot about 2 weeks after it hits the streets, he knows who did it, everyone else knows who did it, it aint hard to tell why he hasnt made another one. you dont speak on something when a case is still open, it doesnt matter what the feds do or dont know, its called dry snitching. learn it, love it, seeing as how you're defending 50, you've probably done it.
50 gets big and goes on bet and says that murder inc are getting extorted and that their record label was started on drug money.-what a suprise, not even a month later the feds say that the investigation has gone public into the label.
the order of protection that 50 placed against murder inc, "was in fact real"
fast forward to when that last g-unit mixtape dropped-50 starts talking about preme, and what do you know???!!!
the feds officially start looking for irv and his brother, what a bunch of coincidences...50 cant get back so hes gotta go at his enemy w/ the police, sad shit...
oh yeah, since you seem to know so much about hustling, you'd know that real hustlers make a name for themselves. they dont steal someone elses. 50 wanted to get big off someone elses rep.
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a hit and whoop ass is diffrent... and by the way you sure?? cause I dont remember him saying that against farrakhan....
Well I don't know if he whooped his ass, but that's what people say he did, and if Ja Rule even admits to it then it's probably true. I can't find the whole interview in audio but if you wanna hear it for yourself you can find it as a skit in the end of a mixtape track called 'Chase you outta here'. It's 50 cent over the Jay-Z track Lucifer, and in the end you can hear Farrakhan talking to Ja and this is what's said:
F: -Have you ever had contact with 50 other than through music?
Ja: -Yeah we... we.. we faught in Atlanta... um..
F: -Actual....an actual fight?
Ja: -Yeah, yeah we..we faught in Atlanta. We faught in um..New York in Hit Factory. I got...I wasn't feelin his whole style. And so.. it got a little violent. You know..um... He punched me...He's nothin
And that's it. It seems to me like he's really upset. And you've been talkin about snitchin this and that... If by snitchin you mean like tellin on somebody this is most definitely snitchin. I'm sorry if this makes Ja look bad, who you happen to like. But I'm just stating some facts and telling what I know. People are quick to call others snitches, but in reality almost every rapper talks about what other rappers have done in their songs...
mm from those lines it doesnt say shit that he got beaten up.. fuck off.. man 50 got stabbed thats real 50 got shot thats real...
"sorry if this makes Ja look bad, who you happen to like"
you fucking psychiater??? wtf who said I like ja... I just aint feeling 50 does that mean that I like ja??? go suck a dick or sum.. cuz I dont need ya sorry....
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YA MAN 50 SNITCH ON MURDER INC. AND YA'LL BEEN RIDIN' HIS DICK AFTERMATH AND THEM BITCHES BEEN SAYIN' SHIT SO THEY WOULDN'T GET MURKED. NOW YA BOY DRE IS WANTING SUGA TO BACK TO JAIL. MAN, GAME U A COOL DUDE HOPE U AIN'T A FUCKIN' RAT. U FUCKIN' WITH THEM WORNG NIGGAS. BUT 50 SHOULD HAVE KEEPED HIS MOUTH. SINCE THEY IN JAIL, GAY-UNIT IS GONNA GET WET UP NOW. SHIT, BIGGIE AND PAC REMAKE. HIP HOP AIN'T THA SAME.
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I'll objectively sum up what the fuck's up:
-50 and Aftermath are selling insane amounts of records and keep on building an empire.
-Murda Inc is done, Irv will do time and Ja barely went gold with R.U.L.E.
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a hit and whoop ass is diffrent... and by the way you sure?? cause I dont remember him saying that against farrakhan....
Well I don't know if he whooped his ass, but that's what people say he did, and if Ja Rule even admits to it then it's probably true. I can't find the whole interview in audio but if you wanna hear it for yourself you can find it as a skit in the end of a mixtape track called 'Chase you outta here'. It's 50 cent over the Jay-Z track Lucifer, and in the end you can hear Farrakhan talking to Ja and this is what's said:
F: -Have you ever had contact with 50 other than through music?
Ja: -Yeah we... we.. we faught in Atlanta... um..
F: -Actual....an actual fight?
Ja: -Yeah, yeah we..we faught in Atlanta. We faught in um..New York in Hit Factory. I got...I wasn't feelin his whole style. And so.. it got a little violent. You know..um... He punched me...He's nothin
And that's it. It seems to me like he's really upset. And you've been talkin about snitchin this and that... If by snitchin you mean like tellin on somebody this is most definitely snitchin. I'm sorry if this makes Ja look bad, who you happen to like. But I'm just stating some facts and telling what I know. People are quick to call others snitches, but in reality almost every rapper talks about what other rappers have done in their songs...
mm from those lines it doesnt say shit that he got beaten up.. fuck off.. man 50 got stabbed thats real 50 got shot thats real...
"sorry if this makes Ja look bad, who you happen to like"
you fucking psychiater??? wtf who said I like ja... I just aint feeling 50 does that mean that I like ja??? go suck a dick or sum.. cuz I dont need ya sorry....
Just tryin to stay objective... good luck with your life man
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Murder Inc. was the real niggas afterall. unlike yall favorite rapper mr "i got shot 9 times ima thug now"
Damn, so getting arrested makes you a thug now?
(http://www.mugshots.com/IMAGES/Mugshot__50-Cent-a.jpg)
not in 50's case coz 50 only got arrested 4 drugdealin n small shite like tha, thats is different from drug laundering an makin 1mill out of it n shit n fbi bein behind ur ass.
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"well it's been confirmed that Ja got his jewellery or something sent back and how would 50 get his hands on that shit if not by robbing Ja as he claimes to have done."
wasnt members(could be groupies) of gunit peeps that did it... but ja got his jewelry back nobody sent it to him(that doesnt make any sense) so that makes him more powerfulll cuz anybody can jump on peeps but getting it back must mean peeps are really scared or what eva.....
why did 50 get shot?? wasnt it by mcgriff or his men cuz 50 had a too big of mouth...?? dont come around about noo it wasnt mcgriff asociates cuz every1 knows it was....
OK OK you proven that there isnt a fact(roumors yes) that would make 50 a snitch.... but there isnt a fact that would make ja a pussy.. dont come around about 50 was hustla and ja wasnt ja was probably a hustla 2 but he was doing a better job in hustling..
and by the way about that 50 lost only once... you forgetting the shots???
they traded the jewellery for something else, they didn't just give it back. You don't rob a muthafucka you are scared too scared of to keep what you took from him, that doesn't make any sense.
well McGriff is of course way outta 50's league, I said it in my first post, IF Murda Inc stands for McGriff then yeah they are real no doubt about that, I simply disagree with what you said about them being all into it just cause they affiliated with dude.
You are right in the end it's always gonne be more or less an assumption about Ja being pussy but that's always the case, I bet you wouldn't doubt that Eminem is not a G and never was and you couldn't ever prove it neither.
I just look at some facts (Ja gettin robbed, but instead of hollaring at the guy who robbed him, he tries to front on 50 after he sees him with the guy who robbed Ja. He was abviously too scared of dude. / Ja not hollaring at 50 himself neither when he knew where he was at without security, since black child got at him, others that been round him like DMX saying he's pussy as fuck and therefore not fucking with him anymore without a certain incident that cause the beef [I know they squashed it now, Ja tried to numerous times, seems like X finally accepted]) and conclude that Ja can't be all that. and Ja does come off like a retard pretty often I can't imagine he's clever enough to be a hussler that never got caught.
as for the bonafide retarded smartass above, I never said slangin or doin time makes anybody hard, it makes you a hussler, by definition, no matter how hard you are or are not.
And as I said before it doesn't take a smartass to fígure out 50 can't possibly fuck wit a mobbsta like McGriff. It's sad though to know that someone would seriously say somthing like 50 "kept the feds on preme". You think the fends been listeing to 50 on the radio and all of a sudden it hit em: "DUDE, you heard what 50 Cent just said ?? McGriff is involved into the drug biz ! and like that's not enough, them Murda Inc guys is down wit him, I'm serious, the rapper Ja Rule who shouts out McGriff from time to time and McGriff's childhood friend Irv Gotti, they are down with him ! and their label might be build on McGriff's drug money !!!! : time for some investigatin"
oh well let's all believe what we wanna believe
50 stealin a name has to do with a lack of originality, not with whether he was hustlin in the streets or not and what does race have to di with all this ? LoL if anything it woulda been made up for all hiphop kids to believe but keep bringin up irrelevant shit if you enjoy that.
mm it doesnt make sense that ja would trade something to get his jewelry dont say money cuz ja could buy enough jewelry hhim getting that jewelry was just some pride thing if you are a male you will understand cuz noway I would believe he paid money to get it back..... mm probably a mcgriff link...
wasnt ja a fist man in his neighbourhood with his comrads... I even read an article he sold coke... not that much probably.. but I wont believe he was a pussy in his time... oo yea 50 said that he was pussy but he said black was pussy mm he isnt he said irv is pussy mm he isnt he said whole murderinc is pussy mm well except for ashanti and baltimore I dont see pussy's...
anyway this thread getting boring so ima leave it in peace..
he traded it, not money but some other shit if you interested in that detail go look up the article but it's a fact
when did I say ja is pussy just cause 50 says it
I just look at some facts (Ja gettin robbed, but instead of hollaring at the guy who robbed him, he tries to front on 50 after he sees him with the guy who robbed Ja. He was abviously too scared of dude. / Ja not hollaring at 50 himself neither when he knew where he was at without security, since black child got at him / others that been round him like DMX saying he's pussy as fuck and therefore not fucking with him anymore without a certain incident that cause the beef [I know they squashed it now, Ja tried to numerous times, seems like X finally accepted]) and conclude that Ja can't be all that.
and how do oyu know Irv is not a pussy, cause he was childhood friend with a dude who's now a g ?
"It's a sad story actually. It's a story about a guy that was blessed with the opportunity to make music and used music to make him appear to be the gangster he's not. [He was] associating himself with gangsters, got too involved with it.
-50. and whether it's true or not fact is it's well possible that it is. Irv didn't prove anything about being real.
learn how to read, you idiot. i said 50 was keeping the feds on preme, because he knows he cant do anything to a real kingpin. the feds have been on to him since the late 80's, you think someone from the middle of nowhere is going to inform me of that?
-50 lies about getting a 3-9, when he went to boot camp for 3 months, anyone who knows anything about the jail system knows that a felony equals jail time, even if you are a first time offender, and 50 wasnt. you be the judge.
50 does ghetto quaran and gets shot about 2 weeks after it hits the streets, he knows who did it, everyone else knows who did it, it aint hard to tell why he hasnt made another one. you dont speak on something when a case is still open, it doesnt matter what the feds do or dont know, its called dry snitching. learn it, love it, seeing as how you're defending 50, you've probably done it.
50 gets big and goes on bet and says that murder inc are getting extorted and that their record label was started on drug money.-what a suprise, not even a month later the feds say that the investigation has gone public into the label.
the order of protection that 50 placed against murder inc, "was in fact real"
fast forward to when that last g-unit mixtape dropped-50 starts talking about preme, and what do you know???!!!
the feds officially start looking for irv and his brother, what a bunch of coincidences...50 cant get back so hes gotta go at his enemy w/ the police, sad shit...
oh yeah, since you seem to know so much about hustling, you'd know that real hustlers make a name for themselves. they dont steal someone elses. 50 wanted to get big off someone elses rep.
lol who's the idiot here, you seem to not even understand what you saying yourself. You said 50 kept the feds on preme (good job on rephrasing that, but.. the point ?)
50 didn't keep the feds on shit, he didn't provide any information they didn't have cause he didn't provide any information at all other than the well known facts.
50 got arrested numerous times, having been to bootcamp for a few months doesn't mean he never been to jail.
l50 not doing another gehtto quaran doesn't mean he doesn't dare to, it's not like every rapper makes part 1 and 2 of every song LoL
If he was scared he wouldn't have spoken on mcgriff on the radio would he ? funny logic this kid got here
If you call shit that doesn't give the feds shit snitching that's your thing but as I said before, a shitload of rappers are snitches then, indluding some of those who be callin 50 one.
In case you still didn´'t get it, Ja rule shouted MC Griff out and Irv is a childhood friend of him, it didn't take 50 for the feds to know about the connection, I guess if they woulda raided their offices a month before 50 said it you'd say 50 probably went to them before he went on the radio lol.. the shit was official and the inc themselves didn't even try to hide it. Thing is the feds never had proof, which they seem to konw have found and believe me kid when I tell ya they are NOT goint to play a recording of 50 talkin shit on the radio when they in court lol.. fuck outta here
the order of protection was not real, it doesn't take a genius to figure that there's no point in gettin an order of protection when you don't want the ones you scared of to know about it cause they would tell the whole world. You think somebody like mcgriff would send somebody of that lil label if he needs to get rid of somebody ? yeah right, Ja is probably his elite hitman. There wouldn't be any point at all in gettin an order of protection against the Inc cause you're worried about what mcgriff might do, he's not part of murder inc.
The only ones who know about that undergorund dude's rep know who he is so how could 50 gain their respect by callin himself the way due was called ? you think he hopes for them to think "damn that hustla 50 Cent changed alot" ? please. 50 liked the name so he jacked it, it doesn't change anything about the fact that everybody knew he was a hustler before he was this famous. It was when he sold more than everybody else when everybody started denying he used to be gangsta (especially with all these snitching rumors goin round).
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lol who's the idiot here, you seem to not even understand what you saying yourself. You said 50 kept the feds on preme (good job on rephrasing that, but.. the point ?)
son, how hard is it to understand that 50 cant do anything to preme, so he keeps shouting out his name to make himself look gangsta to the public, while the feds listen in and wait for someone to slip up. there has been a hiphop task force since 96(FACT)
50 didn't keep the feds on shit, he didn't provide any information they didn't have cause he didn't provide any information at all other than the well known facts.
funny how the feds were fearing for 50 cent's life after jam master jay got shot up, yet they have never done that for another rapper, ever before
50 got arrested numerous times, having been to bootcamp for a few months doesn't mean he never been to jail.
when he said 3-9 he was talking about his big crack stint(which is obvious, because those are felony numbers), which amazingly, he only went to bootcamp for! just go check smokin gun(FACT)
l50 not doing another gehtto quaran doesn't mean he doesn't dare to, it's not like every rapper makes part 1 and 2 of every song LoL
If he was scared he wouldn't have spoken on mcgriff on the radio would he ? funny logic this kid got here
If you call shit that doesn't give the feds shit snitching that's your thing but as I said before, a shitload of rappers are snitches then, indluding some of those who be callin 50 one.
no rapper ever talked about who was peoples hit men. lol @ you thinking this was on some memory lane shit. the song should've been renamed dry snitching 101. its easy to talk shit over the radio and tv when you got 10+ bodyguards around you at all times. why do u really think he got them? P-R-E-M-E
In case you still didn´'t get it, Ja rule shouted MC Griff out and Irv is a childhood friend of him, it didn't take 50 for the feds to know about the connection, I guess if they woulda raided their offices a month before 50 said it you'd say 50 probably went to them before he went on the radio lol.. the shit was official and the inc themselves didn't even try to hide it. Thing is the feds never had proof, which they seem to konw have found and believe me kid when I tell ya they are NOT goint to play a recording of 50 talkin shit on the radio when they in court lol.. fuck outta here
once again, hiphop task force since 96, drug money, and extortion, the feds look into these things. you are an oblivious fool, if you think they dont.
the order of protection was not real, it doesn't take a genius to figure that there's no point in gettin an order of protection when you don't want the ones you scared of to know about it cause they would tell the whole world. You think somebody like mcgriff would send somebody of that lil label if he needs to get rid of somebody ? yeah right, Ja is probably his elite hitman. There wouldn't be any point at all in gettin an order of protection against the Inc cause you're worried about what mcgriff might do, he's not part of murder inc.
beef dvd="the order of protection, is in fact real"-narrator. you lost. just another building block.
The only ones who know about that undergorund dude's rep know who he is so how could 50 gain their respect by callin himself the way due was called ? you think he hopes for them to think "damn that hustla 50 Cent changed alot" ? please. 50 liked the name so he jacked it, it doesn't change anything about the fact that everybody knew he was a hustler before he was this famous. It was when he sold more than everybody else when everybody started denying he used to be gangsta (especially with all these snitching rumors goin round).
ok, he was a hustler, you happy? ::) i thought you said dealing didnt make you gangsta? stop pulling a john kerry.
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haha dude here thinks hes a detective
mutherfuckers gotta get a life besides following some rappers history and making urself feel important because u know who went to jail and for what
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lol who's the idiot here, you seem to not even understand what you saying yourself. You said 50 kept the feds on preme (good job on rephrasing that, but.. the point ?)
son, how hard is it to understand that 50 cant do anything to preme, so he keeps shouting out his name to make himself look gangsta to the public, while the feds listen in and wait for someone to slip up. there has been a hiphop task force since 96(FACT)
kid, how hard can it be to understand that I never claimed it's not true that 50 can't do anything to preme, my point is that he still doesn't talk the shit he talks to keep the feds on mcgridd (which they are anyway) but just for the fuck of it cause he always talks shit about his enemies. He never said anything the feds wouldn't know so task force or not, 50 nerver helped the feds.
50 didn't keep the feds on shit, he didn't provide any information they didn't have cause he didn't provide any information at all other than the well known facts.
funny how the feds were fearing for 50 cent's life after jam master jay got shot up, yet they have never done that for another rapper, ever before
depends on your definition on fearing, it's the feds' job to make they investigations when they see a possible relation between a murder and person that might be planned to be murdered too. Nobody with 50's fame has ever been in such a situation before so they never had to do it.
50 got arrested numerous times, having been to bootcamp for a few months doesn't mean he never been to jail.
when he said 3-9 he was talking about his big crack stint(which is obvious, because those are felony numbers), which amazingly, he only went to bootcamp for! just go check smokin gun(FACT)
I dunno what he said if you remember it that well quote it please cause otherwise it's hard to judge whether he lied or not. Maybe you were just assuming he was referingto something he wasn't refering to.
l50 not doing another gehtto quaran doesn't mean he doesn't dare to, it's not like every rapper makes part 1 and 2 of every song LoL
If he was scared he wouldn't have spoken on mcgriff on the radio would he ? funny logic this kid got here
If you call shit that doesn't give the feds shit snitching that's your thing but as I said before, a shitload of rappers are snitches then, indluding some of those who be callin 50 one.
no rapper ever talked about who was peoples hit men. lol @ you thinking this was on some memory lane shit. the song should've been renamed dry snitching 101. its easy to talk shit over the radio and tv when you got 10+ bodyguards around you at all times. why do u really think he got them? P-R-E-M-E
it's as easy to make another gehtto quaran when you got 10+ bodyguards around you at all time.
In case you still didn´'t get it, Ja rule shouted MC Griff out and Irv is a childhood friend of him, it didn't take 50 for the feds to know about the connection, I guess if they woulda raided their offices a month before 50 said it you'd say 50 probably went to them before he went on the radio lol.. the shit was official and the inc themselves didn't even try to hide it. Thing is the feds never had proof, which they seem to konw have found and believe me kid when I tell ya they are NOT goint to play a recording of 50 talkin shit on the radio when they in court lol.. fuck outta here
once again, hiphop task force since 96, drug money, and extortion, the feds look into these things. you are an oblivious fool, if you think they dont.
you are an obvious fool for ignoring what I'm saying which is that of course they look into these things but in this case it didn't help them at all and it's no proof at all when 50 talks shit about what everybody knew before, he doesn't tell how to prove it or mentions any evidence or nothing, he simply mentions that it's a fact, which has been known before, and which is not proven just cause some random enemy of them claims it fact.
the order of protection was not real, it doesn't take a genius to figure that there's no point in gettin an order of protection when you don't want the ones you scared of to know about it cause they would tell the whole world. You think somebody like mcgriff would send somebody of that lil label if he needs to get rid of somebody ? yeah right, Ja is probably his elite hitman. There wouldn't be any point at all in gettin an order of protection against the Inc cause you're worried about what mcgriff might do, he's not part of murder inc.
beef dvd="the order of protection, is in fact real"-narrator. you lost. just another building block.
I heard about them saying that on the beef dvd but double xl said it's fake, so if some claim it's real and some claim it's fake it's up to common sense to think who#s right. And for the reason I explained in the quote above it's obviously not real cause it would be absolutely pointless to get this order of protection from murder inc when you scared of mcgriff
The only ones who know about that undergorund dude's rep know who he is so how could 50 gain their respect by callin himself the way due was called ? you think he hopes for them to think "damn that hustla 50 Cent changed alot" ? please. 50 liked the name so he jacked it, it doesn't change anything about the fact that everybody knew he was a hustler before he was this famous. It was when he sold more than everybody else when everybody started denying he used to be gangsta (especially with all these snitching rumors goin round).
ok, he was a hustler, you happy? ::) i thought you said dealing didnt make you gangsta? stop pulling a john kerry.
dealin deosn't necesserily make you gangsta, just a hussler, but 50 also killed the dude who shot him (not the one who's responsible cause it was probably mcgriff and he simply can't get at him, but the one who fired the shots)
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I heard about them saying that on the beef dvd but double xl said it's fake, so if some claim it's real and some claim it's fake it's up to common sense to think who#s right. And for the reason I explained in the quote above it's obviously not real cause it would be absolutely pointless to get this order of protection from murder inc when you scared of mcgriff
lol, wait a second...you are going to take the word of a magazine thats been known to be biased towards g-unit, over one of the most respected men in the music world, who has no reason to lie about the order of protection? wow, "its all so simple" now...50 lies and says that the precinct and detective don't exist(just further proof that he didnt want the truth to come out), they go to xxl to further the lie, so his street cred isnt destroyed for being a snitch, and then beef comes along and shows that both of them were lyin out their ass, and the order of protection DOES EXIST AND IS REAL. 50 isnt a snitch? ok. ::)
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I heard about them saying that on the beef dvd but double xl said it's fake, so if some claim it's real and some claim it's fake it's up to common sense to think who#s right. And for the reason I explained in the quote above it's obviously not real cause it would be absolutely pointless to get this order of protection from murder inc when you scared of mcgriff
lol, wait a second...you are going to take the word of a magazine thats been known to be biased towards g-unit, over one of the most respected men in the music world, who has no reason to lie about the order of protection? wow, "its all so simple" now...50 lies and says that the precinct and detective don't exist(just further proof that he didnt want the truth to come out), they go to xxl to further the lie, so his street cred isnt destroyed for being a snitch, and then beef comes along and shows that both of them were lyin out their ass, and the order of protection DOES EXIST AND IS REAL. 50 isnt a snitch? ok. ::)
promoting an artist is one thing, lying about something that they simply made up is another thing
you can babble all day about who's biased or not, fact remains:
1. 2 sources who are supposed to be unbiased have claimed the opposite, both came up with so called 'proof', only one of em can be true but we don't know which.
2. an order of protection against murder inc is of no use to 50 when he's scared of mcgriff who's not part of murder inc. The only thing he could achieve is that they publish the order (which they necessarily have to receive in order for the oder of protection to do it's job which is to force them to stay away from 50), so what it takes to see that 50 wouldn't get such a pointless order of protection against somebody else, not the one who he's really scared of, is a 2 second process of using one's brain (for everybody with a bit of common sense)
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lol, its time to end this thread.
-50 got the order of protection against black child, and irv and chris gotti.
-but smartass, why would he need an order of protection against murder inc, of all people?
-well, he just got stabbed the fuck up and beaten by a bunch of murder inc cats.
-but smartass, courts make people get orders of protection?
-wrong. they cant make you, and they dont know who to issue it to, unless you gave up their name.
-but smartass, i have never seen this order of protection, it must not exist?
-the order of protection can be seen on the internet, as well as in the febuary 2003 issue of the source.
-but smartass, 50 claimed that the precinct and detective didnt exist?
-it was proven in beef, a highly praised series, by one of the most respected and loved men in music history, who has no reason to lie, because he has nothing to gain.
-but smartass, two different sources gave two different answers?
-actually it was 3, and if you cancel out the haters(source), and the dickriders(xxl), you are left with, you guessed it...quincy jones!!!!
-have a good day. 8)
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lol, its time to end this thread.
for the most part this ended when you gave up your hopeless efforts of trying to prove 50 helps the feds with mcgriff.
now you gave up on the other, evenly hopeless part of your argumentation by repeating the same ol shit you been talkin and adding a smiley to support your attempt of looking confident
just for the record, I did see the "order of protection", also saw Ja Rule on a G Unit cover for Beg For Mercy. In case you're waiting for that version of the album to come out, don't worry, the day will come that you come behind the magic responsible for these kinda 'proofs'
oh and you mixed something up here kid, it's Ja who got beaten up and robbed. 50 got stabbed by black child, if he was the type to get an order of protectin for that kinda shit he might as well have put black child behind bars for that shit.
the person 50 probably fears is mcgriff. What was your answer to why someone'd get an order of protection against someone who stabbed you when he was outnumbering you, but not against someone who had you shot 9 times and is likely to try it again ? oh wait.. that answer doesn't exist, still
what was the answer to why someone would get an order of protection against someone when he can't make use of it since he doesn't want anybody to know about it ? oh ya, my bad, that answer doesn't exist either.
(oh and since you're so sure about the beef dvd being honest while xxl isn't: In case they checked for the names, and they did exist, does that mean the order is real, or does it mean the inc did they research decently before photoshopping it ? I know I wouldn't use random names if I made up a story like that)
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lol, its time to end this thread.
for the most part this ended when you gave up your hopeless efforts of trying to prove 50 helps the feds with mcgriff.
now you gave up on the other, evenly hopeless part of your argumentation by repeating the same ol shit you been talkin and adding a smiley to support your attempt of looking confident
just for the record, I did see the "order of protection", also saw Ja Rule on a G Unit cover for Beg For Mercy. In case you're waiting for that version of the album to come out, don't worry, the day will come that you come behind the magic responsible for these kinda 'proofs'
oh and you mixed something up here kid, it's Ja who got beaten up and robbed. 50 got stabbed by black child, if he was the type to get an order of protectin for that kinda shit he might as well have put black child behind bars for that shit.
the person 50 probably fears is mcgriff. What was your answer to why someone'd get an order of protection against someone who stabbed you when he was outnumbering you, but not against someone who had you shot 9 times and is likely to try it again ? oh wait.. that answer doesn't exist, still
what was the answer to why someone would get an order of protection against someone when he can't make use of it since he doesn't want anybody to know about it ? oh ya, my bad, that answer doesn't exist either.
(oh and since you're so sure about the beef dvd being honest while xxl isn't: In case they checked for the names, and they did exist, does that mean the order is real, or does it mean the inc did they research decently before photoshopping it ? I know I wouldn't use random names if I made up a story like that)
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