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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Matrix Heart on January 25, 2005, 02:07:40 PM
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Medicine(Science) or Religion :o
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That's like asking: Who do you respect more, someone who can actually help you or someone who.. well..
Medicine has saved lives, religion is the origin of almost every war. Sounds about as fair and balanced as Fox News.
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a doctor...
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I'm not religeous, but I respect them both the same. If someone can devote their life to relegion, whether I believe in it or not, that definitley deserves respect.
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I respect some doctors, and some religious leaders. I respect all people who choose to help others out of the goodness of their hearts, like Mother Teresa, and if one had to classify her under either religion or medicine, she'd be under religion, so there goes 7even's retarded statement down the drain.
By the way, religion isn't the "origin" of almost every war... politics and $$$ are the causes. Religion is sometimes used as a tool, but it's not the cause.
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most of all i respect myself :)
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most of all i respect myself :)
That's a shame.
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Both can be great people and both can be crooked, so I respect them equally. I lean towards religious people more because they have faith.
And 7even, religious people are some of the most charitable people in the world. And unlike doctors, they don't charge you fees for their charity. You're just out right hating and not thinking.
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Both can be great people and both can be crooked, so I respect them equally. I lean towards religious people more because they have faith.
And 7even, religious people are some of the most charitable people in the world. And unlike doctors, they don't charge you fees for their charity. You're just out right hating and not thinking.
You gotta convert for charity ;D
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If I'm dying you better believe I'm praying my ass off. I will trust a doctor too, a doctor has to do his job so I can be saved. Faith alone will not save you, but faith in God will help that doctor do his thing. In the end, I respect both the same, because both have their faults and the bonuses. But I do not trust anyone else but a Catholic priest, so I voted for science because I don't trust faith alone, I trust God.
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it depends for what reasons...
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I respect some doctors, and some religious leaders. I respect all people who choose to help others out of the goodness of their hearts, like Mother Teresa, and if one had to classify her under either religion or medicine, she'd be under religion, so there goes 7even's retarded statement down the drain.
By the way, religion isn't the "origin" of almost every war... politics and $$$ are the causes. Religion is sometimes used as a tool, but it's not the cause.
1 Person isnt bringing anything I say down the drain. I talk about things in general, if I talk about specific things, I make it more obvious, like naming that particular case Im talking about or something :D.
Tool? Yes. Sometimes even more than that? Yes. Is it being used bad enough, like nukes are bad enough? Yes.
Bottom line is, more people were harmed in the name of religion than helped. That makes it bad enough for me. Other people may have different views, I don't post to please other people. As long as you respect my attitude I respect yours - that doesnt mean I don't express my views. Dope rhyme.
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I respect some doctors, and some religious leaders. I respect all people who choose to help others out of the goodness of their hearts, like Mother Teresa, and if one had to classify her under either religion or medicine, she'd be under religion, so there goes 7even's retarded statement down the drain.
By the way, religion isn't the "origin" of almost every war... politics and $$$ are the causes. Religion is sometimes used as a tool, but it's not the cause.
1 Person isnt bringing anything I say down the drain. I talk about things in general, if I talk about specific things, I make it more obvious, like naming that particular case Im talking about or something :D.
Tool? Yes. Sometimes even more than that? Yes. Is it being used bad enough, like nukes are bad enough? Yes.
Bottom line is, more people were harmed in the name of religion than helped. That makes it bad enough for me. Other people may have different views, I don't post to please other people. As long as you respect my attitude I respect yours - that doesnt mean I don't express my views. Dope rhyme.
I respect your views, and your disbelief in God. There's nothing wrong with that.
There are extremists in every religion, who blame everything on another religion, or call other religions bad, evil, etc. However, extremists can be found in the group of people that don't believe in God; people who blindly blame problems on religion without looking at other factors. How in the hell can you compare religion to nukes? Religion doesn't directly kill people, nukes do. If a political leader uses religion as a tool for war, it would make that leader bad, not religion. It's like me stabbing you with a knife, would you blame me or the knife? Knowing your logic, or lack there of, I'd assume that you actually might blame the knife. Also, you wouldn't know how religion has helped people, if you don't believe in religion. If you don't have faith, then you wouldn't understand how faith can help. Faith is one of those things you need to have in order to fully understand. You're letting your "extremist atheist" views, as I'm going to label them, blind you from thinking rationally.
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Also, since you admitted that religion is simply a tool for war, wouldn't a leader have found another reason/cause/etc to wage that "war". Perfect examples are the crusades... they had less to do with religion than they did with political power, religion was simply a motivational tool.
What would you say about Hitler or Stalin? Didn't believe in God, so if I were as dumb as you, I would say "PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD KILL MILLIONS OF PEOPLE". You're dumb and blind.
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Well nukes don't directly kill people, neither do knives. People who use nukes and knives do kill people. That's why I can compare those things to religion. Religion is often used to kill people. How the heck isn't that a bad thing about religion? I mean, poor religion is abused by assholes, alright. The fact remains though: Religion is, amoungst other things, an instrument to harm people under the priviledge of faked rightousness. I don't agree that what I just said makes me dumb and blind. People who vote Bush because he's such a brave Christian who condemns abortion and homos and has great morals and has been told to take out Saddam by God.. those people are dumb and blind. Not me. People who kill other people and themselves in order to be honored by Allah and have a great after-life are dumb and blind. Not me. People who hate people who don't share their beliefs are dumb and blind. Not me.
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Yea, I agree, people who fall into those categories are all dumb and blind, but so are narrow-minded people who put down others for their beliefs or disbeliefs. Like I said, extremists can be found within every religion, and within the group of people who don't believe in God... people who assume that religion has no benefit to those who believe in it or have faith, people who quickly jump to the conclusion that religion is the root of all evil without looking at the main issues/factors/causes, etc.
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Well nukes don't directly kill people, neither do knives. People who use nukes and knives do kill people. That's why I can compare those things to religion. Religion is often used to kill people.
You still don't understand, and this right here proves my point about you being blind, dumb, and unable to think rationally due to your extremist atheist views. I could take a knife, stab you, and kill you. I could drop a nuke, and kill you. What am I gonna do with religion? Throw it at you? Stab you with it? Shoot you with it? It's abstract. Religion itself doesn't deliver any physical harm. It's like saying "economic theories kill people" (how many people have died in the last hundred years because of disagreements on how a government should treat the economy... capitalism vs. communism)... use some common sense.
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Yea, I agree, people who fall into those categories are all dumb and blind, but so are narrow-minded people who put down others for their beliefs or disbeliefs. Like I said, extremists can be found within every religion, and within the group of people who don't believe in God... people who assume that religion has no benefit to those who believe in it or have faith, people who quickly jump to the conclusion that religion is the root of all evil without looking at the main issues/factors/causes, etc.
Well you gotta know one thing.. if I put down people for their beliefs or disbeliefs, you are putting down people because they aren't very educated and can't argue and write that well. How is this better? You shouldn't be the one teasing me about being an asshole, since you've chosen to be one yourself.
In "real life" I don't diss people for having their beliefs. I state that Im atheist and why if it's brought up, but I leave it at that then. On this message board however, things are different.
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you are putting down people because they aren't very educated and can't argue and write that well. How is this better? You shouldn't be the one teasing me about being an asshole, since you've chosen to be one yourself.
LOLLLLLLLL... I didn't know me sonning you had that great of an impact on you....
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Don't cry man... it's alright... find another way to release your stress... go out and shoot some hoops...
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Well nukes don't directly kill people, neither do knives. People who use nukes and knives do kill people. That's why I can compare those things to religion. Religion is often used to kill people.
You still don't understand, and this right here proves my point about you being blind, dumb, and unable to think rationally due to your extremist atheist views. I could take a knife, stab you, and kill you. I could drop a nuke, and kill you. What am I gonna do with religion? Throw it at you? Stab you with it? Shoot you with it? It's abstract. Religion itself doesn't deliver any physical harm. It's like saying "economic theories kill people" (how many people have died in the last hundred years because of disagreements on how a government should treat the economy... capitalism vs. communism)... use some common sense.
I don't see any point in argueing about this any longer.
I said: Religion is used to harm people. That is right.
Also: Guns, nukes, knives are used to harm people. That is right.
Overall, what I said is right.
Of course you can elaborate and all... and state the obvious "Religion itself doesn't deliver any physical harm.", etc.
The fact remains, no matter if it's the fault of religion itself or of the people who pervert it... it OFTEN harming killing people is a bad thing. That's all I am saying, and Im obviously right.
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you are putting down people because they aren't very educated and can't argue and write that well. How is this better? You shouldn't be the one teasing me about being an asshole, since you've chosen to be one yourself.
LOLLLLLLLL... I didn't know me sonning you had that great of an impact on you....
I'm obviously not talking about myself, as I'm obviously good at writing, argueing etc.
I proved your hypocrisy, you can't deny that. All you could respond with was intentionally misunderstanding my post like if I was referring to me + posting a picture. That's not very competitive.
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I'm obviously not talking about myself, as I'm obviously good at writing, argueing etc.
I proved your hypocrisy, you can't deny that. All you could respond with was intentionally misunderstanding my post like if I was referring to me + posting a picture. That's not very competitive.
You're not good at writing or ARGUING. I didn't "intentionally misunderstand" your post, since you've been a victim. :)
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You shouldn't be the one teasing me about being an asshole, since you've chosen to be one yourself.
Just because I son you doesn't mean I'm "teasing" you... don't take shit too hard, it's just a message board you're getting sonned on... Maybe you INTENTIONALLY MISUNDERSTOOD my comments as TEASING... LOL
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I'm obviously not talking about myself, as I'm obviously good at writing, argueing etc.
I proved your hypocrisy, you can't deny that. All you could respond with was intentionally misunderstanding my post like if I was referring to me + posting a picture. That's not very competitive.
You're not good at writing or ARGUING. I didn't "intentionally misunderstand" your post, since you've been a victim. :)
You bit the bait, I'll leave it at that 8)
One more thing.. I'm not out for to diss you for fasting, praying or your beliefs in general or anything for that matter. But if you take shots at me for no apparent reason, prepare to be stung. Either you try to argue without constantly randomly insult me, or try to not get your panties in a bunch when my posting-style seems hostile to you even without insults. It's a either/or situation, you can't have both with me. And until now, you've always chosen option number 2 and still got your panties in a bunch. I'm glad I could prove your hypocrisy, really. I like that.
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I'm obviously not talking about myself, as I'm obviously good at writing, argueing etc.
I proved your hypocrisy, you can't deny that. All you could respond with was intentionally misunderstanding my post like if I was referring to me + posting a picture. That's not very competitive.
You're not good at writing or ARGUING. I didn't "intentionally misunderstand" your post, since you've been a victim. :)
You bit the bait, I'll leave it at that 8)
One more thing.. I'm not out for to diss you for fasting, praying or your beliefs in general or anything for that matter. But if you take shots at me for no apparent reason, prepare to be stung. Either you try to argue without constantly randomly insult me, or try to not get your panties in a bunch when my posting-style seems hostile to you even without insults. It's a either/or situation, you can't have both with me. And until now, you've always chosen option number 2 and still got your panties in a bunch. I'm glad I could prove your hypocrisy, really. I like that.
LMAO. You really are blind, aren't you? It's like Kobe telling Ben Wallace that the Lakers actually were last year's champions. Prepare to be stung? You've been floating like a butterfly, but I've been delivering the sting.
Randomly insulting*
posting-style hostile? When did I ever say anything about your posting-style? You're the one that whined like a bitch because supposedly I "teased" you.
So far in this thread you're the only one who got their panties in a bunch. If you're too retarded to have realized that by now, go back and read over the posts... see how I son you, and you come back with "stop teasing me. you're such an asshole" LOLLLLL
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Anyways, I'm about to hit up class... I have a German test to ace... auf Wiedersehen!
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Anyways, I'm about to hit up class... I have a German test to ace... auf Wiedersehen!
Viel Glück.
You shouldn't be the one teasing me about being an asshole, since you've chosen to be one yourself.
Just because I son you doesn't mean I'm "teasing" you... don't take shit too hard, it's just a message board you're getting sonned on... Maybe you INTENTIONALLY MISUNDERSTOOD my comments as TEASING... LOL
LoL .. many apologies, but you can't claim that you sonned me by saying " but so are narrow-minded people who put down others for their beliefs or disbeliefs [...]".
I don't take anything too hard, it is fun. I know "intentionnally misunderstanding" is a dopeass thing to say, but don't overuse it.
If you think you put me down by talking to me you are really wrong, cause in fact I really like this. Always have. If you want to hurt me click on the red X. Well that wouldnt hurt me neither lol, but maybe I'd be bored.
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LoL .. many apologies, but you can't claim that you sonned me by saying " but so are narrow-minded people who put down others for their beliefs or disbeliefs [...]".
I don't take anything to hard, it is fun. I know "intentionnally misunderstanding" is a dopeass thing to say, but don't overuse it.
If you think you put me down by talking to me you are really wrong, cause in fact I really like this. Always have. If you want to hurt me click on the red X. Well that would hurt me neither lol, but maybe I'd be bored.
I'm obviously not talking about myself, as I'm obviously good at writing
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Viel Glück.
Danke. Tschüß.
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LMAO. You really are blind, aren't you? It's like Kobe telling Ben Wallace that the Lakers actually were last year's champions. Prepare to be stung? You've been floating like a butterfly, but I've been delivering the sting.
posting-style hostile? When did I ever say anything about your posting-style? You're the one that whined like a bitch because supposedly I "teased" you.
So far in this thread you're the only one who got their panties in a bunch. If you're too retarded to have realized that by now, go back and read over the posts... see how I son you, and you come back with "stop teasing me. you're such an asshole" LOLLLLL
Yea, I agree, people who fall into those categories are all dumb and blind, but so are narrow-minded people who put down others for their beliefs or disbeliefs. Like I said, extremists can be found within every religion, and within the group of people who don't believe in God... people who assume that religion has no benefit to those who believe in it or have faith, people who quickly jump to the conclusion that religion is the root of all evil without looking at the main issues/factors/causes, etc.
Well you gotta know one thing.. if I put down people for their beliefs or disbeliefs, you are putting down people because they aren't very educated and can't argue and write that well. How is this better? You shouldn't be the one teasing me about being an asshole, since you've chosen to be one yourself.
Don't try to twist up what really happened. Im not that easily confused. :grumpy:
Weren't you supposed to run, you goddamn compulsive liar?
These mistakes happen when I type, as I type really fast. I wrote intentionally right previously. Well I don't even have to talk about that 'too hard' bullshit, because that is as obvious as it gets. That would not hurt me neither, well, forgetting a not.. happens.
Where the hell do you got that sharp s (ß) from?
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You seem frustrated. Don't let life bring you down like this. Don't argue with me and you will save yourself the trouble, stress, frustration, and all the other burdens on your poor soul.
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A religious leader blessed my keyboard so that it would be able to write out that sharp "s".
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Acting like he doesn't get his bloody panties in a bunch... trying to put up a front...
If you think you put me down by talking to me you are really wrong, cause in fact I really like this. Always have. If you want to hurt me click on the red X. Well that wouldnt hurt me neither lol, but maybe I'd be bored.
After he finally realizes that he's been sonned again...
Weren't you supposed to run, you goddamn compulsive liar?
LOLLLLLL.... THIS IS WAY TOO EASY....
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You = Frustrated
Me = Laughing at your ass
So who's the one having fun, and who's getting their panties in a bunch? LOLLL... another pic from Engel would just put the icing on the cake...
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1. You posting 4 posts in a row makes you seem frustrated. That's psychology.
2. LoL.. I really think you have a twisted interpretation of reality. The conclusions you draw out of my posts are not only wrong, but also pretty weird to begin with.
3. Don't ask Engel for help. Try to handle it on your own, or don't handle it at all.
So all you have to say (In FOUR Posts) is that you think that I am frustrated, because I call you a liar for fun? lol... Please.
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There's isn't anything to handle... I'm just having fun... I like messing with people's heads... the impact I have on you seems to be great and well worth every post. I think it's time to sum it up by concluding that you truly are an idiot. Oh look, I'm being an asshole and I'm teasing you... time for 7even to cry me a river... :'(
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There's isn't anything to handle... I'm just having fun... I like messing with people's heads... the impact I have on you seems to be great and well worth every post. I think it's time to sum it up by concluding that you truly are an idiot. Oh look, I'm being an asshole and I'm teasing you... time for 7even to cry me a river... :'(
LoL .. You shouldn't be the one teasing me about being an asshole, since you've chosen to be one yourself.
That is what I said. Which means, that you shouldnt cry about me teasing you, when you do the same. Proved your hypocrisy. That doesn't make me a whiner at all (unless you are a whiner too, lol.. ). But if that's what you filter out to make you sleep at night, then so be it. Lerne mit der Realität umzugehen. Dir konstant selbst was vorzulügen .. sowas hast du doch nicht nötig - oder doch? Jetzt lass mich in Ruhe, du hattest deine Chance mit Würde den Thread zu verlassen und hast diese nicht genutzt, mach es nicht noch schlimmer.
Oh and another funny thing: You get your panties in such a motherfucking bunch when I call you a liar (which you are, since you once told me you got a Green Card, now you're telling us you are an illegal immigrant) while you insult people all the time! Sensitive hypocrite, that is what you are. Plus you got NPD.
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LMAO... the illegal immigrant thing was a joke, you retard... LOLLLL... I can't believe you're this dumb... the title in that thread was "non U.S. citizens" and he was asking about what channels y'all get outside of the country, I was basically jokingly saying that I get all the channels without being a U.S. citizen... LOLLLL something going way over your head again...
Anyways, back to me sonning you... I never claimed that you teased me.. to me you're a joke, pathetic to be honest... I never mentioned you being an asshole or teasing me, you did... which again shows your frustration...
Yea, I do insult retards like you.. I admit it... I never complained about you being an idiot though... there's a difference between sonning people, which is what I do, and being an idiot, which is what you are...
Alright, I have to write an essay real quick for my Latin American history class... but you keep making posts that will help boost your self-esteem, and keep attempting to dig yourself out of this one (you're just digging yourself deeper in though).... whatever helps you sleep at night, my dumb child.
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Yea, I agree, people who fall into those categories are all dumb and blind, but so are narrow-minded people who put down others for their beliefs or disbeliefs. Like I said, extremists can be found within every religion, and within the group of people who don't believe in God... people who assume that religion has no benefit to those who believe in it or have faith, people who quickly jump to the conclusion that religion is the root of all evil without looking at the main issues/factors/causes, etc.
I never claimed that you teased me.. I never mentioned you being an asshole or teasing me
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Maybe you don't get it because the words arent exactly the same.. something going over your head again.
+You shouldnt use the term "sonning" when there's exactly nothing to son about... You just keep telling yourself you sonned someone, when there's not even a slight hint there that you did. You sonned me about what? Ha? You're just starting to act like I am frustrated because I called you a liar, rofl.. If that makes me frustrated and therefore sonned (by your logic or lack thereof), then how frustrated and sonned must you be, when you insult people all the time? LoL.. Now shut the hell up.
Oh wait I'll help you with that. This thread got way too off-topic, which wouldnt be the case if you wasn't trying to front. I'll close this, this should teach you a lesson not to wreck threads because you don't agree with the things someone says. Next time try to argue in a more mature way and this won't happen.