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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: destine-2-shine on August 26, 2002, 03:12:32 PM
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Please believe that. Dre got way to much credit that year for having a tight cd. Everybody that knows music knows that kurupt drop the cd of the year. I will stand by that till the day i die. Streetz iz a mutha was stone cold vicious. If you ask me streetz shoulda went 5x plat not 2001. We are all in agreement right? i just wanted to know what yall think.
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hell nah.
Streetz is a mutha was tite, but it didn't break any new ground.
2001 set a example for hiphop-music worldwide, and that's what a classic is all about.
2001: 5 mics
Streetz-mutha: 4.5 mics
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I thought they were both 5 mic material. Both in my personal top 5 alltime cds. But I gotta give Dre 2001 the slight nod.
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2001 easily. Not taking anyway from Tha Streetz which was an exceptional album but 2001 was a monumental album which once again raised the bar for hip hop production. Fuck The Blueprint and Stillmatic because 2001 was truly the LAST classic that dropped.
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streetz was and still is the better album....it just didnt get the promotion...i remember when they both came out like the same weekend...there was about a dozen steetz's and bout 100 2001's...
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Nah, "2001" takes that one lol. "Streetz" is Kurupt's best album, but production (and rhymes) are overtaken by "2001."
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Nah, "2001" takes that one lol. "Streetz" is Kurupt's best album, but production (and rhymes) are overtaken by "2001."
Production? Yes...Rhymes? NO!
Both are Classics..."2001" is better though...
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2001 easily. Not taking anyway from Tha Streetz which was an exceptional album but 2001 was a monumental album which once again raised the bar for hip hop production. Fuck The Blueprint and Stillmatic because 2001 was truly the LAST classic that dropped.
^Smart Man^
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2001 was overrated...The rhymes were shit and the production was nowhere near The Chronic...The whole second half after Next Episode was wack...Streetz had better production and rhymes...Too bad Kurupt ain't rhyme no more like he did on that album...
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2001 was overrated...The rhymes were shit and the production was nowhere near The Chronic...The whole second half after Next Episode was wack...Streetz had better production and rhymes...Too bad Kurupt ain't rhyme no more like he did on that album...
What are ya talking about? Kurupt just rhymes about random things on "Streetz." He had no real subjects for songs. Now look @ "2001." It was a concept album. Each song meant something. Dre had Em & Hittman write stuff that made sense. Like "The Watcher," "Still D-R-E, "Forgot About Dre," "The Message." His album made sense, and had structure.
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What are ya talking about? Kurupt just rhymes about random things on "Streetz." He had no real subjects for songs. Now look @ "2001." It was a concept album. Each song meant something. Dre had Em & Hittman write stuff that made sense. Like "The Watcher," "Still D-R-E, "Forgot About Dre," "The Message." His album made sense, and had structure.
Hahahahaha...Kurupt is an MC...Dre cant be compared to him lyric-wise...
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Hahahahaha...Kurupt is an MC...Dre cant be compared to him lyric-wise...
I don't care...what Eminem and Hittman wrote for Dre was better than what Kurupt spit. What Kurupt rapped made no sense. Listen to the first song.
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"2001" was commercialized rap at its finest
"Streetz Iz A Mutha" was gangsta rap at its finest, shit you could bang to in your car
I honestly can't choose one over the other. I mean, you gotta love Dre's shit, it's classic, even tho it's commericalized. And Kurupt came HARD on Streetz, gave us some of that gangsta shit that we hadn't heard in 3-4 years. Don't ask me which one's better... it's like askin me if I wanna do Shakira or J-Lo. Why not have a threesome, know what I'm sayin?
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What are ya talking about? Kurupt just rhymes about random things on "Streetz." He had no real subjects for songs. Now look @ "2001." It was a concept album. Each song meant something. Dre had Em & Hittman write stuff that made sense. Like "The Watcher," "Still D-R-E, "Forgot About Dre," "The Message." His album made sense, and had structure.
What about xxplosive, light speed, forgot about dre, the next episode, lets get high? Those really had messages didnt they....
I think 2001 is overrated as hell, no classic in my mind. It was a compilation with dope beats. Alot of pointless songs with no messages. therefor no classics.
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Both are bangers......both of those cds were tight!!
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What about xxplosive, light speed, forgot about dre, the next episode, lets get high? Those really had messages didnt they....
I think 2001 is overrated as hell, no classic in my mind. It was a compilation with dope beats. Alot of pointless songs with no messages. therefor no classics.
man what are some of u guys thinkin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2001 blows the streets offa the fuckin map,,the streets really isnt a classic cd, its just a dope one there are so many dumb tracks on it like the one wit krs one and the dmx diss, that sounds like it was written by a 12 year old.........and where are the positive messages on the streets fool? u dont need 2 talk about positive messages and bullshit 2 have a classic album
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STREETz = C :D L :D A :D S :D S :D I :D C :D
-Tha Rev
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man what are some of u guys thinkin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2001 blows the streets offa the fuckin map,,the streets really isnt a classic cd, its just a dope one there are so many dumb tracks on it like the one wit krs one and the dmx diss, that sounds like it was written by a 12 year old.........and where are the positive messages on the streets fool? u dont need 2 talk about positive messages and bullshit 2 have a classic album
When did i say anything about postitive messages. I just said messages. In other words topics, concepts,meanings. Also I never listened to the streetz. I couldnt care less about kurupt. I just said 2001 isnt that great. Well it aint no hip hop classic.
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i think that 2001 is the best album out since the great deathrow days and there hasnt been anything better than it yet!! its def a classic no doubt about that and i think that dre will soon show that he is only gettin better when he releases rakims cd and when he comes out with detox i cant wait 2001 straight classic and chronic no doubt straight classic hey hes 2 for 2 cant beat that who can you say has 2 straight classic albums like he has and i think he will go out with a bang on detox with a straight 3 for 3 classic albums!! in other words kurupt has a down ass cd with the streetz is a mutha but i dont think it was nearly as great as 2001.
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2001 is better without a doubt.
This album is always credited with it's top notch production, however I think this is one of the best written albums. Dre sounds as good as he ever has. (check "The Watcher") Devin, Xzibit, Em all come thru. And Hittman was amazin', nice enterance to tha game.
Very well written album.
Streetz is still dope. (It's just the second best album to come out that day)
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I go with "Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha". I've never been a big Dre fan.
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Streetz was dope and is on the level of 2001. I jusat prefer 2001 because its my preference.
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"2001" was commercialized rap at its finest
"Streetz Iz A Mutha" was gangsta rap at its finest, shit you could bang to in your car
I honestly can't choose one over the other. I mean, you gotta love Dre's shit, it's classic, even tho it's commericalized. And Kurupt came HARD on Streetz, gave us some of that gangsta shit that we hadn't heard in 3-4 years. Don't ask me which one's better... it's like askin me if I wanna do Shakira or J-Lo. Why not have a threesome, know what I'm sayin?
100% agreed. thats how i feel bout it. i cant chose one over the other, cause they both classics. and nice comparison with J Lo LoL :D
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Don't ask me which one's better... it's like askin me if I wanna do Shakira or J-Lo. Why not have a threesome, know what I'm sayin?
Well said. Except that I'd choose... like... Halle Berry instead of Jell-O.
But back on topic: 2001 is better. Streetz is good, REAL good, but 2001 is better.
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2001 = 10/10
Streetz = 9/10
in my opinion
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Man 2001 wasnt even westcoast music. That nigga dre suck for makin some westcoast music now. I hate the way he be comin wit those eastcoast beats and shiit. Kurupt shiit waz straight westcoast gangsta shit. Tha shiit i love. Kurupt album changed the game. It brought the westcoast back to the forefront. Kinda like dj quik did single handedly wit rythmalism. And please believe that. On da real fucc dre wit his wack ass eastcoast beats.
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We all agree? I have my own opinion thanx ;) And that is that although both were classics (imo) "2001" is better, like someone else said it was better written, had better direction in terms of the content and it was better produced all the way through. "The Streetz..." is by far Kurupts best album, and worthy of the classic tag, but it's not as special and groundbreaking as "2001" imo.
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Man 2001 wasnt even westcoast music. That nigga dre suck for makin some westcoast music now. I hate the way he be comin wit those eastcoast beats and shiit. Kurupt shiit waz straight westcoast gangsta shit. Tha shiit i love. Kurupt album changed the game. It brought the westcoast back to the forefront. Kinda like dj quik did single handedly wit rythmalism. And please believe that. On da real fucc dre wit his wack ass eastcoast beats.
whuttever.... "cuzzzzzzzzz"...... keep that shit on the DPG forum pppplllllllleaaaaaaaase.....
p.s.
Streets cant touch 2001.
kurupt aint a lyricist because he can string a few words that end in ---actical together......example.
"The tactical acrobatical automatic
Automatically psychosomatics that got it verbally guided"
means????
he's a verbal missle........ in waaaaay tooo many words
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I love both albums and think they are both really tight classics. Streets reminded me a bit more of the classic shit we got from DR back in the day. It would really be hard to choose one over the other. I don't really understand how 2001 was groundbreaking though. I could bump both albums everyday and not grow tired of them.
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"The tactical acrobatical automatic
Automatically psychosomatics that got it verbally guided"
means????
Exactly. Shit doesn't make sense.
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Exactly. Shit doesn't make sense.
Maybe to u it doesnt make sense, but Im sure he doesnt just take words and write them on a paper cuz they rhyme...
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Maybe to u it doesnt make sense, but Im sure he doesnt just take words and write them on a paper cuz they rhyme...
I think he does, and if your the musical expert tell me what that means, Now_I_Know?
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i already said what it means above!! lol
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I think he does, and if your the musical expert tell me what that means, Now_I_Know?
It means he's a verbal missle...U have too be educated too udnerstand big words like those...
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It means he's a verbal missle...U have too be educated too udnerstand big words like those...
Yeah, well now that Overseer said that. You'd go with that, duh. If he didn't make that post your ass would of come up with the translation of "NIK is the dopest rapper alive."
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yah, NIK is wrong.
Kurupt DOES make up a bunch of words that rhyme just because they DO rhyme, without any reason.
"The tactical acrobatical automatic
Automatically psychosomatics that got it verbally guided"
I'm even Norwegian, and I can tell you that this doesn't mean anything else than "pointless showoff".
or even:
"Psychosomatic, automatic static
Catatonic, supersonic, bubonic chronic addict"
or
"Shut the fuck up bitch,
Eat a dick bitch,
Eat a bowl of shit bitch,
Munch on a mouthful of balls, in halls and malls
Just shut the fuck up bitch and work your jaws.
Take a pill bitch, chill bitch."
Is that some of the "amazing" lyrics yall were talking about?
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Didnt D.R.E. Start the Dpg? Why U dissin DRE Dumb Nutz!
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a nigga fucc dre and fucc you and in the words of my hommie lil jay DeeeeeeeeezNuuuuuuuuuts.
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personally I prefer Streetz,
BUT
If it came down to choosing a better overall album i would go wid 2001. Even though i don't own 2001 because i don't like it to that extent to buy it or download it it is a classic in my opinion because 'it gets stuck in your head'. Thats how you single out a classic in my opinion.
It has to be liked, BUT it also has to be the kind of thing you'd hear when you're asleeep and you'd know exactly who it is and what song it is.
However, Dre's not my thing nowdays, i stopped following all Deathrow Memebers except Daz Dillinger. I can listent to Kurupt now and then but the only DR artist i support is Daz.
Peace!
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If it came down to choosing a better overall album i would go wid 2001. Even though i don't own 2001 because i don't like it to that extent to buy it or download it it is a classic in my opinion because 'it gets stuck in your head'. Thats how you single out a classic in my opinion.
That's odd.
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As I said in my review of Streetz Iz A Mutha I do believe that it is better than 2001. The main reason for this is that I actually thought that for all the people saying that 2001 was groundbreaking I actually just saw it as tight spaced out production with a lot of average rappers making appearances on the album. The fact of the matter is that basically after Next Episode there r no really tight tracks, and some of the others that people call classic tracks such as Forgot About Dre r just average. People were saying that Dre was setting a path for a whole new group of west coast rappers, well he certainly didn't show that with the singles released from the album. Damn I haven't heard of Snoop Dogg or Eminem before, and who's this Nate Dogg it's not like he's on every other hook on the radio that the Neptunes aren't on. The album was really just a compilation with Dre's name on it, and became totally overcrowded with all the guest appearances.
Streetz Iz A Mutha however featured tight production all the way through thanks to Daz, Soopafly and co, and lyrically was far beyond 2001, check out Step Up, Trylogy or Loose Cannons and try to tell me that Kurupt and his guests r not better lyrically than Dre and his guests on 2001. I can easily listen to Streetz all the way through from start to finish and enjoy all of it, whereas with 2001 I always get bored half way through and find that a lot of the songs just drag on way too long to be enjoyable.
To me 2001 is never a classic, it gets nowhere near The Chronic, and although I don't think that Streetz is a classic it is certainly much closer to being classic than 2001 which really was an over hyped above average album. As far as ratings I would give:
Streetz Iz A Mutha - 9/10
2001 - 7/10
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2001 is TOTALLY OBVIES a classic
ain't no album out since then that I like over 2001
as for the appearances
Snoop, Hittman, Defari, Xzibit, Eminem, King Tee...
that's not average
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wo, wo, let's not overreact... 7/10? Is you crazy??
2001 = 9/10
Streetz = 9.5/10
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NAH KURUPT CANT FUCK WIT 2001. KURUPT JUST SAYS "FUCK A BITCH" "KALAKOS STATAKOS RATOKOS" AND OTHER SHIT THAT HE JUST MAKE'S UP. SOME OF HIS WORDS ARE NOT EVEN WORDS.
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No i'm not crazy, that is my honest opinion of 2001, I hardly ever listen to it any more because it does just bore me. I'm not going to rate it any higher just because it's Dre, because both I and everybody else know that if this was a soundtrack or a compilation instead of pretending to be a Dre album then you all wouldn't have rated it as highely as you actually did. I still own 2001 because there are some classic joints on there, but only for them because 3/4 of the album is just above average.
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i dont listen to 2001 anymore coz i played it out ;D
i dont listen to streetz coz... i dont. :p