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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: mauzip on February 25, 2005, 10:49:55 AM
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Imagine this situation. It's hypothetical.
A young religious man, who has a good life, is a little bit depressed. One night he decides to step out and commits suicide. In letters he wrote before his death he said he didn't like the fact he didn't have a girl and that he wanted to be with God. Neither his parents nor his 2 best friends knew he had plans to commit suicide; he only complained to God in his letters. So the only reason he commited suicide is he was depressed cause didn't have a girlfriend. Noone can think of something else that bothered him.
Is his religion to blame for his death? Was his religion the reason he didn't talk to anyone about his problems even though he had 2 very close friends? Would he still have been alive if he hadn't believed in God?
I think his religion is to blame. What do you think?
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I think HE is to blame.
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I think HE is to blame.
Why do you say that?
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I think HE is to blame.
Why do you say that?
It's his own fault for whe he did. He is to blame for what he did. It was ultimatley his choice. Religion is irrelevant in a case like this. What if I wanted to kill myself but I only told my dog. Is it my dogs fault that I did it?
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I think HE is to blame.
what a bold statement.
BTW, dont do it, Mauzip!!!
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That's true, but if he hadn't believed in God he would still be alive cause he wouldn't have thought he'd be with God after his death. He also would have talked about his problems instead of writing letters to God.
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BTW, dont do it, Mauzip!!!
:P
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Religion is to blame for a lot of suffering and a lot of deaths in this world, including this.
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no
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I think HE is to blame.
cosgn
Religion is to blame for a lot of suffering and a lot of deaths in this world
cosign
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no
I love your argumentation.
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no
I love your argumentation.
You didnt ask for an argument, you asked is religion to blame. I say no.
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no
I love your argumentation.
You didnt ask for an argument, you asked is religion to blame. I say no.
I'm asking you now. Why do you say no?
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no because in most religions it's an unforgivable sin to commit suicide because once you commit this sin, you can no longer ask for forgiveness, so if this guy was truly religious, he wouldn't do it
this guy is just happens to be a mental case that goes to church because it's supposed to make him feel better
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no because in most religions it's an unforgivable sin to commit suicide because once you commit this sin, you can no longer ask for forgiveness, so if this guy was truly religious, he wouldn't do it
I agree. If this mans religion meant that much to him, he would've known that God had something waiting for him eventually. His religion can't be blamed for him committing suicide. THe free will that he had was responsible.
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I think HE is to blame.
cosgn
Religion is to blame for a lot of suffering and a lot of deaths in this world
cosign
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No...ah well.
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Religion is to blame for a lot of suffering and a lot of deaths in this world, including this.
Men with diluted views that contradict their religion are to blame for a lot more deaths in this world, including this.
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No. If he wasn't religious he simply would have found another reason. The person who commits suicide ultimately does so because they are
A)Chemically imbalanced and not treated or
B)Selfish and come up with an excuse for it, such as this particular situation.
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If you're talking about Judaism, Christianity, or Islam, then your hypothetical situation would be a bit contradicting. All three of these religions condemn suicide, and if he was a "very religious" man, then he would definitely know that. So if he's going to be condemned to hell anyways, he could've easily just sinned by being with the girlfriend. So the answer is NO. Also, you're an idiot. You're welcome.
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no because in most religions it's an unforgivable sin to commit suicide because once you commit this sin, you can no longer ask for forgiveness, so if this guy was truly religious, he wouldn't do it
I agree. If this mans religion meant that much to him, he would've known that God had something waiting for him eventually. His religion can't be blamed for him committing suicide. THe free will that he had was responsible.
No. If he wasn't religious he simply would have found another reason. The person who commits suicide ultimately does so because they are
A)Chemically imbalanced and not treated or
B)Selfish and come up with an excuse for it, such as this particular situation.
Don't you think that if he didn't believe he would have talked to his friends about his problems? Now he had God to talk to. Everyone believes differently. Some Christians say you can't do this and that and other Christians say you can, so saying "it's an unforgivable sin to commit suicide because once you commit this sin, you can no longer ask for forgiveness, so if this guy was truly religious, he wouldn't do it" is nonsense I think. His wish to be with God lead to his suicide.
If you're talking about Judaism, Christianity, or Islam, then your hypothetical situation would be a bit contradicting. All three of these religions condemn suicide, and if he was a "very religious" man, then he would definitely know that.
BAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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no because in most religions it's an unforgivable sin to commit suicide because once you commit this sin, you can no longer ask for forgiveness, so if this guy was truly religious, he wouldn't do it
I agree. If this mans religion meant that much to him, he would've known that God had something waiting for him eventually. His religion can't be blamed for him committing suicide. THe free will that he had was responsible.
No. If he wasn't religious he simply would have found another reason. The person who commits suicide ultimately does so because they are
A)Chemically imbalanced and not treated or
B)Selfish and come up with an excuse for it, such as this particular situation.
Don't you think that if he didn't believe he would have talked to his friends about his problems? Now he had God to talk to. Everyone believes differently. Some Christians say you can't do this and that and other Christians say you can, so saying "it's an unforgivable sin to commit suicide because once you commit this sin, you can no longer ask for forgiveness, so if this guy was truly religious, he wouldn't do it" is nonsense I think. His wish to be with God lead to his suicide.
If you're talking about Judaism, Christianity, or Islam, then your hypothetical situation would be a bit contradicting. All three of these religions condemn suicide, and if he was a "very religious" man, then he would definitely know that.
BAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
to part 1.... every christian believes in "though shall not kill" and that you need to be forgiven for your sins before you die in order to go to heaven... therefor if a person were to kill himself, they would be commiting a sin that they could not be redeemed for... i know of religious people that have commited suicide but that was because they gave up on there faith and wer hopeless, not because they wanted to see God
and to part 2... LOL
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People who are going to commit suicide dont talk to their friends about it. Usually people who commit suicide keep their emotions bottled up inside, and feel they have to take their life to get away from it.
I know a few people who have taken their life (they werent religious), and they never told a friend "im gonna kill myself"
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If you're talking about Judaism, Christianity, or Islam, then your hypothetical situation would be a bit contradicting. All three of these religions condemn suicide, and if he was a "very religious" man, then he would definitely know that.
BAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Homo, I was talking about the religion itself, not some douche in the Middle East telling followers to blow themselves up.
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most religious do condemn suicide
and religion is not responsible for the deaths
its the morons that contort the views to suit themselves and make something that it was never supposed to be that are responsible for these deaths
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no.
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That's true, but if he hadn't believed in God he would still be alive cause he wouldn't have thought he'd be with God after his death. He also would have talked about his problems instead of writing letters to God.
anyone that believes in god knows god isnt to blame for anything. it is us that are to blame. if he prayed correctly to god he wouldnt have killed himself. if he was praying to god to find him pussy then he was praying to the devil.
you cant blame religion in this case, im sure you will find a girlfirend one day mauzip, just stop watchin so much porn.
p.s im not god mauzip, please stop writing those letters.
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im sure you will find a girlfirend one day mauzip
I guess you don't really know Mauzip because that's not what he's looking for...