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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Lincoln on February 25, 2005, 07:37:49 PM
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I've been a little bored, I'm just started my week off school so I was thinking about how people can not like The Beatles. To me, they're the greatest band of all time, and I was once among those who said "Blah blah, they were just another pop group," which was before I actually listened to them. I'd like to break down various songs, albums, etc... to show they were more than just another pop group.
Let's start with the "pop" songs:
I Feel Fine - Here, the boys discover something by mistake. When holding a guitar against an amplifier, John notices that he makes feedback with his guitar. He utilizes this on the beginning. Feedback later becomes a key element for the (arguably) most influential guitar player, Jimi Hendrix.
Ticket To Ride - Using 2 distinctive vocal tones for the ending, singing commences (high voice) "My baaaby (low voice) don't caare". This technique is something which was rather unique for the time. Usually a singer will sing a whole song in one vocal tone, and in this particular example 2 different tones are used in a single bar.
Help! - For a pop song, this sure shows a lot of a lot of emotion. A song which seems to express John's somewhat depressed emotions (while seemingly in parody) still becomes a #1 hit, despite the common misconception that The Beatles only sang about girls. Check this out, simply great:
Help me if you can, I'm feeling down
And I do appreciate you being round.
Help me, get my feet back on the ground,
Won't you please, please help me?
And now my life has changed in oh so many ways,
My independence seems to vanish in the haze.
But every now and then I feel so insecure,
I know that I just need you like I've never done before.
Yesterday - Simply a beautiful song. While not truly a Beatles song, Paul McCartney delivers a strikingly emotional and beautiful song, with simple music behind it, once again smashing the misconception of pop songs aimed primarily at girls. Note:
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away
Now it look as though they're here to stay
Oh, I believe in yesterday
Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be
There's a shadow hanging over me
oh, yesterday came suddenly
Beautiful vocals.
Day Tripper - Yet another #1 chocked up to the Fab Four. This song was the first song written by the powerhouse writing team Lennon/McCartney while on acid. This song features an excellent guitar riff and powerful vocals. Also worth checking out is the version with Jimi Hendrix.
Yellow Submarine - Seemingly harmless, this song features great vocals by drummer Ringo Starr. Upon a good listen, the lyrics seem quite tripped out:
As we live a life of ease,
Everyone of us has all we need,
Sky of blue and sea of green,
In our yellow submarine.
We all live in a yellow submarine,
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine,
Eleanor Rigby - A simply wonderful and deep song, performed vocally by Paul. This song features a haunting musical backround, and deep lyrics about the lonely, along with a good storyline about both a lonely woman and a troubled Priest who's paths cross:
Eleanor Rigby died in the church and was buried along with her name.
Nobody came.
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave.
No-one was saved.
All the lonely people, where do they all come from?
All the lonely people, where do they all belong?
All You Need Is Love - A wonderfully soulful song. Interestingly enough, the first time this song was attempted is the version you hear on the Magical Mystery Tour album. For a complex song both vocally and musically to be nailed on the first take is incredible.
Hey Jude - This song was written by Paul for John's son Julian to help him deal with his parents' divorce. Some think it is to young, but I feel it is damn near perfect as it is. One particular line Paul thought was stupid, and John told him not to dare to change it, which makes Paul often choke up when he sings it (that line emphasised):
Hey Jude refrain,
Don’t carry the world upon your shoulders.
For well you know that it’s a fool,
Who plays it cool,
By making his world a little colder.
Hey Jude don’t let me down,
You have found her now go and get her,
Remember (Hey Jude) to let her into your heart,
Then you can start to make it better.
Get Back - This song features a great guitar, and an excellent keyboard solo from Billy Preston who became the Beatles' good friend while the filmed "Let It Be". This song features simple, yet humourous storytelling by Paul:
Sweet Loretta Martin thought she was a woman
But she was another man
All the girls around her say she’s got it coming
But she gets it while she can.
The Ballad Of John And Yoko - John tells the story of how hard it is to dodge the media when you're that popular by telling of getting married to Yoko Ono. I won't post lyrics because the whole song is the story.
Something - Finally, a George Harrison song which reached #1. This song is beautiful, with George talking about the ideal lover, maybe directed towards his wife:
Something in the way she moves
Attracts me like no other lover,
Something in the way she woos me.
I don’t want to leave her now,
You know I believe and how.
Somewhere in her smile she knows
That I don’t need no other lover.
Let It Be - A great track with Paul's vocals, featuring him singing about the beauty of music:
And when the night is cloudy,
There is a light that shines on me,
Shine until tomorrow, let it be.
I wake up to the sound of music,
Mother Mary comes to me,
Speaking words of wisdom, let it be.
Let it be, let it be.
Next post: Lesser known (As far as the Beatles are concerned) tracks.
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Rubber Soul (the whole album) - I can't really recommend just single songs off of this, plus for the fact it has no singles. Despite no singles it still sold extremely well. An excellent album, definetly worth checking out.
Revolver:
Taxman - An interesting social commentary by George about being choked to death by the government through taxes:
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street,
If you try to sit, I’ll tax your seat,
If you get too cold, I’ll tax the heat,
If you take a walk, I’ll tax your feet.
Taxman.
I'm Only Sleeping - A strange song by John, this features backwards guitars, while John describes being in a sleepy state:
When I’m in the middle of a dream,
Stay in bed, float up stream (float up stream),
Please don’t wake me, no, don’t shake me,
Leave me where I am, I’m only sleeping.
Everybody seems to think I’m lazy.
I don’t mind, I think they’re crazy
Running everywhere at such a speed,
Till they find there’s no need (there’s no need),
Doctor Robert - Damn catchy and rarely mentioned, this is one of my faves from Revolver.
Features great singing from John.
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
A great album which is from the perspective of the Beatles not being the Beatles, but in fact another band.
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds - Some dispute is whether this song is about a picture drawn by John's song with the title, or if it actually stands for LSD. Whatever, it's damn trippy. It features 3 different vocal styles, with crazy lyrics:
Picture yourself in boat on a river,
With tangerine trees and marmalde skies
Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly,
A girl with kaleidoscope eyes.
Cellophane flowers of yellow and green,
Towering over your head.
Look for the girl with the sun in her eyes,
And she’s gone.
Fixing A Hole - A great song by Paul. The song is about fixing problems to makes oneself feel better (at least that was my interpretation):
I’m fixing a hole where the rain gets in
And stops my mind from wandering
Where it will go.
I’m filling in the cracks that ran through the door
And kept my mind from wandering
Where it will go.
And it really doesn’t matter if I’m wrong
I’m right
Where I belong I’m right
When I'm Sixty Four - A great song about couples growing old together, it's a fun listen and deep at the same time.
A Day In The Life - 2 songs in one. It's John's song with Paul's stuck in the middle, somehow works quite well. It's about events, such as a man who kills himself in a car, WW2 and holes in the Albert Hall. Well known, download it and I'll bet you say "I've heard that before."
Magical Mystery Tour:
Fool On The Hill - A deep song about a lonely man, seen as the fool on the hill. Has some great singing and lyrics:
Day after day, alone on a hill,
The man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still
But nobody wants to know him,
They can see he’s just a fool
And he never gives an answer.
But the fool on the hill sees the sun going down
And the eys in his head see the world spinning round.
I Am The Walrus - Uuuh, what can I say. You'll have to hear it for yourself. Here's the lyrics: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Limo/3518/walrus.htm
The White Album:
The greatest double album of all time in my opinion. It's mostly solo song from each, I'll recommed the best from each:
Paul - Back In The USSR, Martha My Dear, Blackbird, Why Don't We Do It In The Road?, Rocky Racoon, Helter Skelter, Honey Pie
John - Glass Onion, Happiness Is A Warm Gun, I'm So Tired, Yer Blues, Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey, Revolution
George - While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Piggies, Savoy Truffle
Ringo - Don't Pass Me By, Good Night (only songs on the album).
Abbey Road:
The breakup album, recorded while The Beatles were breaking up (obviously):
Oh! Darling - A great song by Paul, it features completely exagerrated vocals. Word is Paul lost his voice after repeatedly doing takes trying to nail this one.
Octopus's Garden - A Ringo original, this song is fun, catchy, and has a great guitar in it. Nice lyrics:
I’d like to be under the sea in an octopus’s garden in the shade,
He’d let us in, knows where we’ve been, in his octopus’s garden in the shade.
I’d ask my friends to come and see an octopus’s garden with me.
I Want You (She's So Heavy) - Repetitive and long, somehow John pulls it off to make it an amazing song.
Tracks 11-17 - Spanning less than 9 minutes, these songs blur into each other and it's great how you suddenly realize it's a different song.
That's all the songs I'm going to touch on, there were lots I left out.
Next post: Conclusions.
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Conclusions:
The Beatles were a great band, no doubt. While it's evident Ringo isn't the greatest drummer of all time, nor Paul the great bass player, nor John & George the greatest guitarists, nor any of them being the greatest singers from a technical standpoint, the chemistry in undeniable. The way the band held itself together enhances the great sound of the instruments, thus making up for what might not be the technical greatness. The pre-Rubber Soul albums are great, often pop-ish songs which are great on their own. From Rubber Soul to Abbey Road The Beatles created some of the most influential, original, and entertaining songs in music history.
And that's my 2 cents on why I consider The Beatles to be the greatest band of all time.
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i can understand why people don't like the beatles....i mean its just not some peoples style....also it kind of depends on thier age i think....i hated the beatles till i was about 18....then i started getting into them a little more...now i love them....eleanor rigby is one of my favorite songs as well as let it be. their albums are great. what i can't understand is why people don't respect the beatles....liking them is one thing, respecting them is another....i mean....i don't like bruce springsteen very much or metallica very much....but i have respect for them. (for their music atleast....metallica to me seems like a bunch of greedy bitches). but all in all i can understand why some people don't listen to them....
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i can understand why people don't like the beatles....i mean its just not some peoples style....also it kind of depends on thier age i think....i hated the beatles till i was about 18....then i started getting into them a little more...now i love them....eleanor rigby is one of my favorite songs as well as let it be. their albums are great. what i can't understand is why people don't respect the beatles....liking them is one thing, respecting them is another....i mean....i don't like bruce springsteen very much or metallica very much....but i have respect for them. (for their music atleast....metallica to me seems like a bunch of greedy bitches). but all in all i can understand why some people don't listen to them....
I agree. I was just attempting to dispel the myth that they just made pop music for girls and give some recommendations to people who want to check them out.
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i can understand why people don't like the beatles....i mean its just not some peoples style....also it kind of depends on thier age i think....i hated the beatles till i was about 18....then i started getting into them a little more...now i love them....eleanor rigby is one of my favorite songs as well as let it be. their albums are great. what i can't understand is why people don't respect the beatles....liking them is one thing, respecting them is another....i mean....i don't like bruce springsteen very much or metallica very much....but i have respect for them. (for their music atleast....metallica to me seems like a bunch of greedy bitches). but all in all i can understand why some people don't listen to them....
metallica arn't greedy they're actually just as normal as any band protecting their name. there was actually a site called beatallica.com where this 'band' mixed beatle's and metallica songs together and spoofed them, metallica stated that they loved the site when they could have easily sued for all the merchandise and shit they sold on there, but the paul and ringo thought it was tasteless and sony and whoever else ownes the rights to the beatles songs made Beatallica take their site down or face a multimillion dollar lawsuit..my point being metallica ain't this greedy band people make them out to be.
and about the beatles..............they are one of those groups you HAVE to give props to, it's blasphamous not to.
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yea i pretty much agree with everyone here... i think you have to be a lil older to like or apriciate the beatles, i get really angry wen people are ignorant, and dont realize and aknowledge their greatness.. they are my fav group, the best group, and god damn, i can listen to so many songs over and over, i got like over 30 favs.. but my 1 fav song by them is A day in the life.. btw i dont like metallica cause i cant stand the dudes voice, i feel like im at a nascar race or something, ...
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I think most young people dont care for them because its not there style. They also dont realize how unique they were back when they came out.
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I think most young people dont care for them because its not there style. They also dont realize how unique they were back when they came out.
Maybe, but The Beatles don't really have just one style, many of their albums have different vibes. I'm hoping by making this thread I could help people see the many sides to their music. I mean, I'm young and I like them.
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I'm upping this, I'm curious to see what people like Trauma and Shallow have to say, as well as the views of the ignorant. Did anyone actually check these songs out that I recommended and possibly change their views?
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well, my opinion has been summed up pretty much by what most people in here said...and btw, i was into the Beatles pretty heavy when i was like 10 8)
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i didnt start listening to the beatles until after i turned 18 because i thought it was crap that my parents listnened too
but now i bump the white album all the time i'll check out the other songs u posted and see if ne others catch my attention
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i didnt start listening to the beatles until after i turned 18 because i thought it was crap that my parents listnened too
but now i bump the white album all the time i'll check out the other songs u posted and see if ne others catch my attention
Props for being open-minded. ;)
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Who are the Beatles?
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The Beatles were so 'as a matter of fact' that it's without a DOUBT they're the greatest Band of all time. It's not even open to argument... it's Fact. Face it: The Beatles simply were the best there ever was, and they're likely the best there ever will be. For SEVERAL reasons.
Individually, they weren't necessarily all that talented. Paul McCartney is likely the most talented of the bunch, but he's himself probably no more talented than a slew of famous musical geniuses: My Brother Brian Wilson, Paul Simon, Stevie Wonder, Smokey Robinson, Ray Charles list goes on and on and on. Paul, though, and his other 3 brothers had something spectacular flowing through them... for some reason they always made the right choice at the right time, and the music took on a life bigger than itself. "A Day In The Life" isn't really all THAT great of a song, but most people place it near the top of the 'greatest of all time' lists... why? ... because the Beatles had something about them like I said that was greater than the actual product. There's some kind of mysticism or something working, it's really hard to explain. I have a theory that holds that somehow the Beatles tapped into something greater than themselves, and rode it's coattails: Love.
The Beatles started out singing "She Loves You, Yeah, Yeah Yeah Yeah!" and the "Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah" with them shaking their heads silly went on to kind of become their representative trademark. Think of the Beatles, and you likely think of them standing, George on the right with a Microphone, John & Paul singing into the same Microphone, Ringo beating away at the drums, and all 4 shaking their slightly too-long hair around, yelling "YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!!" or going "WHOOOOOOOO". At that moment, they were as great as they ever would be. Something about them reminds you (or at least me!) of the carefree falling feeling you have when you've just met some girl, you've got a crush on her, and you know that things are only going to get better. They don't remind me of long, deep seated love that has taken years to grow, they remind me of fresh, fun, exciting love that only takes a couple days. There's somethign about them saying "Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah" that perfectly sums up that entire feeling, it's like they tapped into that emotion, and then used everyone's passion and enjoyment of that feeling, to transfer that same feeling to their happy little band. And so the Beatles have become the most loved band of all time, at least to me, because it reminds me of that emotion everytime I hear or see them. What a great fucking band.
They brought such interesting dynamics to the group too, but most importantly of all, never took themselves too seriously. Even when John was having his 'bed in's" and things for peace, it was always fun, never condescending or condemning. It was perpetually sillly, like war is silly. Paul would just as soon write a song called "Why Don't We Do It In The Road?" as he would write a legendary ballad about love called "The Long and Winding Road". George would write one of the greatest ballads of all time, "Something", and then in the same mind write a driving melodic riff-driven masterpiece like "If I needed someone". Ringo would show up at the studio with a 2 or 3 lines of a song called "Octopuses Garden", and the other 3 guys, loving him so much, would gladly help him turn it into a full fledged song, and wouldn't think of not having it on the album... they'd even cut greater material from the tracklisting so their best friend could have the song he dreamed up on there. These are the guys that years after they were forced to stop touring, because they couldn't hear their own instruments... and after they knew the end was coming, and the band would never be the same again... they made the decision one day to haul their instruments and amplifiers up to the roof of their studio, to do one last live concert in the wind up there, with the streets filled with people on their lunchbreaks wondering what the hell all the noise was. Paul McCartney changed the words to "Get Back" just especially for the police that were staring at him from the doorway of the stairwell on the roof, called because of the complaints of the noise... looking straight at them, he sang "Get Back home Loretta... you've been playing on the roofs again... you know your momma doesn't like that... no, she gets angry, gonna have you arrested!! AAAHOOOWWW GET BACK!!"
Beautiful Band, easily without a doubt, end of discussion, you're going to hell if you think otherwise, the GREATEST OF ALL TIME. It's like Beethoven Mozart Bach and Gershwin starting a rock group. They will be talked about and praised 2000 years from now. You can not, will not, have not ever overspoken the immensity of this band.
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yea kill wen i was young i aLso love the beatles, but not for skill, i just loved solngs like penny lane, i wana hold your hand, back in the ussr,... cause they were cathy and fun.. o and infinite, here
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=554.0
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trauam, ill give u props, you can write a good post, wen ur not talking about slautering people, u should like write for a magazine
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Who are the Beatles?
yeah no shit who are the fucking beatle juice beatles or what ever?
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Who are the Beatles?
yeah no shit who are the fucking beatle juice beatles or what ever?
Your A Moron
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Nice post Trauma. Infinite & Music is like magic, that's not funny.
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i can listen to their music every now and then.. but imo it is nothing special. id rather listen to pink floyd over the beatles anyday.
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yea kill wen i was young i aLso love the beatles, but not for skill, i just loved solngs like penny lane, i wana hold your hand, back in the ussr,... cause they were cathy and fun.. o and infinite, here
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=554.0
I take back what I said about Shakespeare. That post was from almost 2 years ago, if you knew all I've been through in the last 2 years you wouldn't copy and paste my old posts as if they are still current.
It's actually because the Noble Qu'ran that I've grown to like Shakespeare. I've been studying Arabic and when you translate classical Arabic it is best to translate it to classical English, so I understand the necessity and the beauty of classical English now, and now when I read or hear Shakespeare I have a high reverence for the language.
As for the Beatles, they are still irrelevent to me. I think Ras Kass was much more socially aware and conscious, and his talent for writing rhymes and music was above the Beatles, take it how you want to.
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Your opinion is irrelevant. When I produced a song for you back during your ill-fated rap career, you couldn't even stay on beat. My Dog Barks on beat. You can't even catch the basis of all music; the tempo, the rhythm. Ultimately; nobody honestly cares about your opinion on ANYTHING, yours is a life wasted.
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Your opinion is irrelevant. When I produced a song for you back during your ill-fated rap career, you couldn't even stay on beat. My Dog Barks on beat. You can't even catch the basis of all music; the tempo, the rhythm. Ultimately; nobody honestly cares about your opinion on ANYTHING, yours is a life wasted.
Once again, your talking about something from 2 years ago like it is still current. I made 4 songs over the internet a couple years ago and I was wack, so what? Why does that matter? If you consider my life to be such a waste, and don't care about anything I say, then why do you care so much about a couple of songs I made over the intenet nearly 3 years ago? Why are you still talking about them? Why is it so important for you to try to go to any length to insult me over the internet?
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the only song i like that the beatles sing is lets come together. and even that is overated. damn.
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i didnt start listening to the beatles until after i turned 18 because i thought it was crap that my parents listnened too
but now i bump the white album all the time i'll check out the other songs u posted and see if ne others catch my attention
I was the same way. I like every Beatle's song I've heard. My dad has most of their cd's and every where we would travel, he'd be blasting it, but I grew to love them.
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infinite i'm going to have some patience for you becuase your are truely being ignorant........
here is what you need to do and i bet you 2 years from now John Lenon is going to be your fucking idol.
Go study Just John Lenon and his life is his social stance from 1965 all the way up until his death in 1980 dude was seriously on some JFK, Malcom X, Dr. King social shit......dude is faaaaaaaaaaar more socially aware than rass kass. Rass had 1.5 albums worth of political awareness..Lenon on the other hand could make a fucking 5 disc anthology of just greatest hits....seriously
and about lyrics........here's the problem with rap......people think that rap is poetry ...some of it is, but when you study classic and read real poetry it DOES NOT RHYME. song lyrics for a long while didn't rhyme.....good lyrics don't need to rhyme. Bob Dylan is probably one of the greatest song writers of lyrics ever and most of his shit doesn't rhyme. you're looking at musical lyrics from a hip hop stand point, where if you can rhyme well you're a 'bomb' lyracist. When you see a song with the writing credits Lenon/Mccartney it's the euqiv of opening a cd up and seeing the production credits saying Produced by Dr. Dre and Dj quik.
do yourself a favor and JUST study the music and life of John Lenon.........you'll fall in love with the dude. the shit he use to talk and stand for is too similar to the shit you talk and rant about it's funny you hate his group....
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infinite i'm going to have some patience for you becuase your are truely being ignorant........
here is what you need to do and i bet you 2 years from now John Lenon is going to be your fucking idol.
Go study Just John Lenon and his life is his social stance from 1965 all the way up until his death in 1980 dude was seriously on some JFK, Malcom X, Dr. King social shit......dude is faaaaaaaaaaar more socially aware than rass kass. Rass had 1.5 albums worth of political awareness..Lenon on the other hand could make a fucking 5 disc anthology of just greatest hits....seriously
and about lyrics........here's the problem with rap......people think that rap is poetry ...some of it is, but when you study classic and read real poetry it DOES NOT RHYME. song lyrics for a long while didn't rhyme.....good lyrics don't need to rhyme. Bob Dylan is probably one of the greatest song writers of lyrics ever and most of his shit doesn't rhyme. you're looking at musical lyrics from a hip hop stand point, where if you can rhyme well you're a 'bomb' lyracist. When you see a song with the writing credits Lenon/Mccartney it's the euqiv of opening a cd up and seeing the production credits saying Produced by Dr. Dre and Dj quik.
do yourself a favor and JUST study the music and life of John Lenon.........you'll fall in love with the dude. the shit he use to talk and stand for is too similar to the shit you talk and rant about it's funny you hate his group....
Why don't you give me an example of his lyrics and let's compare them with some lyrics from Ras Kass on Soul On Ice.
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Try to beat this with some weak "He Loves You Ya Ya Ya!"
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Rass Kass- "Nature of the Threat"
December 25th, the birth of Saturn
A homosexual god, now check the historical pattern
December 25, now thought the birth of Christ
Was Saturnalia, when men got drunk,
fucked each other then beat their wife
Fact is, it was still practiced, til they called it Christmas
So put a gerbil on your Christmas list
The Hellenistic Era, Alexander the Great
Conquers all the way to India leavin four successor states
By the Fifth century B.C., R.O.M.E.
succeeds to be the conqueror of Egypt and Greece
But had the threat of the Black Phoenicians in Sicily
The Punic Wars began 264 B.C.
The Black general Hannibal and Carthaginian Peace
In 146 B.C. Carthage fell after a six-month siege
Rome sold every citizen to slavery
The first genocide of history
And more bisexuality in sight; Julius Caesar was known as
"every woman's husband and every man's wife" (BEOTCH!)
Spartacus Revolt, a slave rebellion that lost
Where 6,000 slaves was nailed on a cross
Cross? Aw, shit! Jesus Christ! Time for some-act-right
Christians get your facts right
Cause Christ was not his name
That's Greek for "One who is anointed"
Yoshua Ben Yosef was his name, do Christians know this?
So who do you praise, do you know his name?
Or do you do this in vain?
Accepting the religion they gave slaves to behave
Peep the description of historian Josephus
"Short, dark, with an underdeveloped beard was Jesus"
He had the Romans fearing revolution
The solution was to take him to court and falsely accuse him
After being murdered by Pilate how can it be
these same white Romans established Christianity
Constantine would later see the cross in a dream
In his vision, it read "En Hawk Signo Wonka":
"In this sign we conquer" - Manifest Destiny
In 325 he convened the Nicean Creed
And separated god into three
Decided Jesus was born on December 25th
and raised then on the third day is a myth
Plus to deceive us
Commissioned Michelangelo to paint white pictures of Jesus
He used his aunt, uncle, and nephew
Subconsciously that affects you
It makes you put white people closer to God
(Yo, 'The Man' got game like a motherfucker!)
True indeed, fuck it, Jihad
In the eight century Muslims conquered
Spain, Portugal and France and controlled it for 700 years
They never mention this in history class
cause o'fays are threatened when you get the real lesson
Moors from Baghdad, Turkey threatened European Christians
Meaning, the white way of life; hence the Crusades for Christ
On November 25th, 1491
Santiago defeats the last Muslim stronghold, Grenada
King Ferdinand gave thanks to God for victory
And the Pope of Rome and declared this date to forever be
A day of "Thanksgiving" for all European Christians
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Rass Kass- "Evil That Man Do"
Nappy headed nigga stigmatism at birth
Born to a family of four and so that makes me one-fourth
of a dysfunctional home
I had a father who only stayed to see me grown
When I turned twelve he was gone
Alone, no role model
I used to watch my Granddaddy and Uncle hit the bottle
and then hit each other
Granddaddy beat Grandmother, but that's before my time
but I still see how it affected her mind
As a child I introverted, and drew pictures
While my mother prayed to Jesus reading King James scriptures
She used to take me to church so I could put money in the basket
Tell the preacher how she used to get her ass kicked
And me, I mastered the art of hatred
After pops left ran with my niggaz tryin to take shit
Petty theft, I got caught a few times, but bust it
Life is a bitch so fuck it
In eighty-one I remember the night
I covered myself with baby powder, so my black ass could be light
Cause God is white, and Bo Derek is a ten
I hate my black skin, it's just a sin to be a nigga
Then again, I'm like the Frenchman, cause Granny's creole
And therefore, we're black French people
So I think it's best if I go to Catholic school
And study under nuns and then I'll be a Catholic fool
Cause none of these cults want none of us up
and don't none want to see none of us live to be adults, sheeit
No wonder brothers take lives for red and blue
It's the evil that men do
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Rass Kass- Order Out Of Chaos
The planet revolves, supposedly, man evolves
But no promblem is solved, cause man is the cause
For the sake of eugenics biochemists create ethospecific epidenmics
Injecting the public in clinics
Then when the truth comes out "You black people are so paranoid"
But WHO murdered Africa the World Health Organization
Before 1978 there was no blood with AIDS contamination
It ain't little green monkeys
It's little white honkeys crossing bouing leukemia with sheep visnna virus
As set tore out the iris of Horus, and Isis loved Osiris
Blackmen is blinded, while blackwomen look for real men but can't find it
Sometimes I think to myself "Why'd I even bring a child into this world?"
I pay taxes so Bill Clinton can slang crack in Arkansas buy gold imported
from South Africa
But I don't eat swine
And beat the living shit outta skinheads
So where's my piece of mind?
A swiss watch, leasing a Lex on credit
All the liquor and pussy a nigga can get
Put together a this puzzle but my pieces won't fit what the fuck?
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Rass Kass- "Evil That Man Do"
Nappy headed nigga stigmatism at birth
Born to a family of four and so that makes me one-fourth
of a dysfunctional home
I had a father who only stayed to see me grown
When I turned twelve he was gone
Alone, no role model
I used to watch my Granddaddy and Uncle hit the bottle
and then hit each other
Granddaddy beat Grandmother, but that's before my time
but I still see how it affected her mind
As a child I introverted, and drew pictures
While my mother prayed to Jesus reading King James scriptures
She used to take me to church so I could put money in the basket
Tell the preacher how she used to get her ass kicked
And me, I mastered the art of hatred
After pops left ran with my niggaz tryin to take shit
Petty theft, I got caught a few times, but bust it
Life is a bitch so fuck it
In eighty-one I remember the night
I covered myself with baby powder, so my black ass could be light
Cause God is white, and Bo Derek is a ten
I hate my black skin, it's just a sin to be a nigga
Then again, I'm like the Frenchman, cause Granny's creole
And therefore, we're black French people
So I think it's best if I go to Catholic school
And study under nuns and then I'll be a Catholic fool
Cause none of these cults want none of us up
and don't none want to see none of us live to be adults, sheeit
No wonder brothers take lives for red and blue
It's the evil that men do
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Rass Kass- Order Out Of Chaos
The planet revolves, supposedly, man evolves
But no promblem is solved, cause man is the cause
For the sake of eugenics biochemists create ethospecific epidenmics
Injecting the public in clinics
Then when the truth comes out "You black people are so paranoid"
But WHO murdered Africa the World Health Organization
Before 1978 there was no blood with AIDS contamination
It ain't little green monkeys
It's little white honkeys crossing bouing leukemia with sheep visnna virus
As set tore out the iris of Horus, and Isis loved Osiris
Blackmen is blinded, while blackwomen look for real men but can't find it
Sometimes I think to myself "Why'd I even bring a child into this world?"
I pay taxes so Bill Clinton can slang crack in Arkansas buy gold imported
from South Africa
But I don't eat swine
And beat the living shit outta skinheads
So where's my piece of mind?
A swiss watch, leasing a Lex on credit
All the liquor and pussy a nigga can get
Put together a this puzzle but my pieces won't fit what the fuck?
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infinite i'm going to have some patience for you becuase your are truely being ignorant........
Why don't you give me an example of his lyrics and let's compare them with some lyrics from Ras Kass on Soul On Ice.
complex and clever lyrics dont mean the song is great ;)
the simplest lyrics done in a clever, musical way can make a great song.
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infinite i'm going to have some patience for you becuase your are truely being ignorant........
here is what you need to do and i bet you 2 years from now John Lenon is going to be your fucking idol.
Go study Just John Lenon and his life is his social stance from 1965 all the way up until his death in 1980 dude was seriously on some JFK
JFK? JFK is no hero to me. JFK had us involved in Vietnam, a poor country, that had never done anything to us, he attacked and oppressed them. As Malcolm X said, JFK tried to have popular leaders around the world assisinated, Patrice Lumumba died and his wife became a widow, his people had their leader cut down, the U.S. was involved in this, Kennedy was involved in this, many leaders, there was an attempt on Castro's life, and others, there was an atmosphere and enviroment in the world, and then Kennedy ended up getting himself assasinated. That's why when he died Malcolm X said it was a case of "The Chickens Coming Home To Roost".
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Infinite, you´re such a fool. I might comment later, but Nature Of The Threat, even if you believe in that shit, is merely the reproduction of lexical information. He doesn´t flow, stay on beat or demonstrate any sort of eloquence saying what he says. And he never flows or stays on beat anyways
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Infinite, you´re such a fool. I might comment later, but Nature Of The Threat, even if you believe in that shit, is merely the reproduction of lexical information. He doesn´t flow, stay on beat or demonstrate any sort of eloquence saying what he says. And he never flows or stays on beat anyways
LOL... So now everybody at a West Coast Hip-Hop Forum suddenly becomes Beatle fans, I don't believe it, I think ya'll are just embarrassed because you think whites are superior but you love black music, so you have to find a few white bands to like to make yourself feel better. That may not be true for all of you, but I have a hard time believing that all these hip-hop heads at this forum are really bumping the Beatles more than their favorite rap cd's.
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Lyrics better than anything Rass Kass has ever done, or ever will do.
All You Need Is Love - John Lennon (pure genius on wax)
Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love.
There's nothing you can do that can't be done.
Nothing you can sing that can't be sung.
Nothing you can say, but you can learn
How to play the game -
It's easy.
Nothing you can make that can't be made.
No one you can save that can't be saved.
Nothing you can do, but you can learn
How to be you in time -
It's easy.
All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love. Love is all you need.
Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love.
All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love. Love is all you need.
There's nothing you can know that isn't known.
Nothing you can see that isn't shown.
There's nowhere you can be that isn't where
You're meant to be -
It's easy.
All you need is love, all you need is love,
All you need is love, love. Love is all you need.
All you need is love. (All together now).
All you need is love. (Everybody).
All you need is love, love. Love is all you need.
Love is all you need.
Love is all you need...
(Yesterday)
(Oh yeah)
(She love you, yeah, yeah, yeah)
(She love you, yeah, yeah, yeah)
(Oh, yesterday)
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Across the Universe - John Lennon
Words are flowing out like
endless rain into a paper cup
They slither while they pass
They slip away across the universe
Pools of sorrow waves of joy
are drifting through my open mind
Possessing and caressing me
Jai guru deva om
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Images of broken light which
dance before me like a million eyes
That call me on and on across the universe
Thoughts meander like a
restless wind inside a letter box
they tumble blindly as
they make their way across the universe
Jai guru deva om
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Nothing's gonna change my world
Sounds of laughter shades of earth
are ringing through my opened ears
inciting and inviting me
Limitless undying love which
shines around me like a million suns
It calls me on and on across the universe
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Getting Better (John Lennon, first to talk about spousal abuse... which he inflicted)
It's getting better all the time
I used to get mad at my school
The teacher's that taught me weren't cool
You're holding me down
Filling me up with your rules
I've got to admit it's getting better
A little better all the time
I have to admit it's getting better
It's getting better since you've been mine
Me used to be angry young man
Me hiding me head in the sand
You gave me the word
I finally heard
I'm doing the best that I can
I've got to admit it's getting better
I used to be cruel to my woman
I beat her and kept apart from the things that she loved
Man I was mean but I'm changing my scene
And I'm doing the best that I can
I admit it's getting better
A little better all the time
Yes I admit it's getting better
It's getting better since you've been mine...
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Hello Goodbye - Paul McCartney (More creative and innovative, clever than anything Rass Kass has ever written)
You say "Yes", I say "No".
You say "Stop" and I say "Go, go, go".
Oh no.
You say "Goodbye" and I say "Hello, hello, hello".
I don't know why you say "Goodbye", I say "Hello, hello, hello".
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello.
I say "High", you say "Low".
You say "Why?" And I say "I don't know".
Oh no.
You say "Goodbye" and I say "Hello, hello, hello".
I don't know why you say "Goodbye", I say "Hello, hello, hello".
(Hello, goodbye, hello, goodbye. Hello, goodbye.)
I don't know why you say "Goodbye", I say "Hello".
(Hello, goodbye, hello, goodbye. Hello, goodbye. Hello, goodbye.)
Why, why, why, why, why, why, do you
say "Goodbye, goodbye, bye, bye".
Oh no.
You say "Goodbye" and I say "Hello, hello, hello".
I don't know why you say "Goodbye", I say "Hello, hello, hello".
I don't know why you say "Goodbye", I say "Hello".
You say "Yes", I say "No".
(I say "Yes", but I may mean "No").
You say "Stop", I say "Go, go, go".
(I can stay still it's time to go).
Oh, oh no.
You say "Goodbye" and I say "Hello, hello, hello".
I don't know why you say "Goodbye", I say "Hello, hello, hello".
I don't know why you say "Goodbye", I say "Hello, hello, hello".
I don't know why you say "Goodbye", I say "Hello-wow, oh. Hello".
Hela, heba, helloa. Hela, heba, helloa. Hela, heba, helloa.
Hela, heba, helloa. (Hela.) Hela, heba, helloa. Hela, heba, helloa.
Hela, heba, helloa. Hela, heba, helloa. Hela, heba, helloa.
BTW, the Coda is in Double Time, which would signify a tempo change, which Rass Kass would know nothing about although it's one of the simplest fundamentals of music.
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I, Me, Mine - George Harrison
All thru' the day
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
All thru' the night
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
Now they're frightened of leaving it
Ev'ryone's weaving it,
Coming on strong all the time,
All thru' the day I me mine.
I-I-me-me mine, I-I-me-me mine,
I-I-me-me mine, I-I-me-me mine.
All I can hear
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
Even those tears
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
No-one's frightened of playing it
Ev'ryone's saying it,
Flowing more freely than wine,
All thru' the day I me mine.
I-I-me-me mine, I-I-me-me mine,
I-I-me-me mine, I-I-me-me mine.
All I can hear
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
Even those tears
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
No-one's frightened of playing it
Ev'ryone's saying it,
Flowing more freely than wine,
All thru' your life I me mine.
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All My Life - John Lennon (easily one of the greatest songs ever written... top 5 in my book... you have to remember, at this time, NOBODY was introspective, like EVERY rapper tries to be. If it weren't for the Beatles writing about THEMSELVES, you would have no Rass Kass to write about his own experiences. Nobody did it before them.)
There are places I'll remember
All my life, though some have changed
Some forever, not for better
Some have gone and some remain
All this places have their moments
With lovers and friends I still can recall
Some are dead and some are living
In my life, I've loved them all
But of all these friends and lovers
There is no one compares with you
And these memories lose their meaning
When I think of love as something new
Though I know I'll never lose affection
For people and things that went before
I know I'll often stop and think about them
In my life, I love you more
Though I know I'll never lose affection
For people and things that went before
I know I'll often stop and think about them
In my life, I love you more
In my life-- I love you more
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Julia - John Lennon (Written about memories of his mother, who passed away in his childhood, and totally affected the rest of his adult life... again, nobody was writing introspective music, before John Lennon, it just didn't happen)
Half of what I say is meaningless
But I say it just to reach you, Julia.
Julia, Julia, oceanchild, calls me
So I sing a song of love, Julia
Julia, seashell eyes, windy smile, calls me
So I sing a song of love, Julia.
Her hair of floating sky is shimmering, glimmering
In the sun
Julia, Julia, morning moon, touch me
So I sing a song of love, Julia.
When I cannot speak my heart
I can only speak my mind, Julia.
Julia, sleeping sand, silent cloud, touch me
So I sing a song of love, Julia.
Hum hum hum hum...calls me
So I sing a song of love, Julia, Julia, Julia.
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The Magical Mystery Tour - John Lennon (When your favorite rapper raps about smoking pot, he has the balls to do it, because John Lennon had the balls to do it in 19 fucking 67.)
Roll up - roll up for the Mystery Tour
Roll up - roll up for the Mystery Tour
Roll up
That's an invitation
Roll up for the Mystery Tour
Roll up
to make a reservation
Roll up for the Mystery Tour
The Magical Mystery Tour
is waiting to take you away
waiting to take you away
Roll up
Roll up for the Mystery Tour
Roll up
Roll up for the Mystery Tour
Roll up
They've got everything you need
Roll up for the Mystery Tour
Roll up
Satisfaction guaranteed
Roll up for the Mystery Tour
The Magical Mystery Tour is hoping to take you away
hoping to take you away.
The Mystery Tour
Aaaaah
The Magical Mystery Tour
Roll up
Roll up for the Mystery Tour
Roll up
That's an invitation
Roll up for the Mystery Tour
Roll up
to make a reservation
Roll up for the Mystery Tour
The Magical Mystery Tour
is coming to take you away
coming to take you away
The Magical Mystery Tour
is dying to take you away
dying to take you away
take you today
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Maxwell's Silver Hammer (Paul McCartney) - (An actually cynically written song, by Paul, to prove that Beatles could sing about Murder, and the fans would still love it and sing along... also one of the first songs to ever feature a moog organ, just invented, and played by Paul himself at Abbey Road studios.)
Joan was quizzical, studied metaphysical
Science in the home
Late nights all alone with a test-tube
Ohh-oh-oh-oh...
Maxwell Edison majoring in medicine
Calls her on the phone
"Can I take you out to the pictures
Joa-oa-oa-oan?"
But as she's getting ready to go
A knock comes on the door...
Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon her head
Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead
Back in school again Maxwell plays the fool again
Teacher gets annoyed
Wishing to avoid an unpleasant sce-e-e-ene
She tells Max to stay when the class has gone away
So he waits behind
Writing 50 times "I must not be so-o-o-oo..."
But when she turns her back on the boy
He creeps up from behind
Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon her head
Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that she was dead
B.C. Thirty-One said "we caught a dirty one"
Maxwell stands alone
Painting testimonial pictures ohh-oh-oh-oh
Rose and Valerie screaming from the gallery
Say he must go free (Maxwell must go free)
The judge does not agree and he tells them so-o-o-oo
But as the words are leaving his lips
A noise comes from behind
Bang, bang, Maxwell's silver hammer
Came down upon his head
Bang, Bang, Maxwell's silver hammer
Made sure that he was dead
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Norweigian Wood - John Lennon (The first western pop song to feature an eastern instrument, a Sitar, and the lyrics are about the girls John would meet, sleep with, and then how he felt like burning their cheap little apartments they were posing with down the next day)
I once had a girl,
Or should I say,
She once had me.
She showed me her room,
Isn't it good,
Norwegian wood.
She asked me to stay and she told me to sit anywhere.
So I looked around and I noticed there wasn't a chair.
I sat on the rug,
Biding my time,
Drinking her wine.
We talked until two,
And then she said,
It's time for bed.
She told me she worked in the morning and started to laugh.
I told her I didn't and crawled out to sleep in the bath.
And, when I awoke,
I was alone,
This bird had flown.
So, I lit a fire,
Isn't it good,
Norwegian wood.
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Penny Lane - Paul McCartney (Easily more descriptive than anything Rass Kass has tried to publish)
Penny Lane
Beatles
Penny Lane there in a barber showing photographs
Of every head he's had the pleasure to know.
And all the people that come and go
Stop and say "Hello".
On the corner is a banker with a motorcar,
And little children laugh at him behind his back.
And the banker never wears a mac
In the pouring rain - very strange.
Penny Lane is in my ears and in my eyes.
There beneath the blue suburban skies
I sit, and meanwhile back
In Penny Lane there is a fireman with an hourglass,
And in his pocket is a portrait of the Queen.
He likes to keep his fire engine clean,
It's a clean machine.
Penny Lane is in my ears and in my eyes.
A four of fish and finger pies
in summer. Meanwhile back
behind the shelter in the middle of the roundabout
The pretty nurse is selling poppies from a tray.
And though she feels as if she's in a play,
She is anyway.
In Penny Lane the barber shaves another customer,
We see the banker sitting waiting for a trim,
And then the fireman rushes in
From the pouring rain - very strange.
Penny Lane is in my ears and in my eyes.
There beneath the blue suburban skies
I sit, and meanwhile back.
Penny Lane is in my ears and in my eyes.
There beneath the blue suburban skies...
Penny Lane!
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Piggies - George Harrison (Commentary about the working man stuck in the city, even though a song this simple is probably way over your pea-brained mind)
Have you seen the little piggies
crawling in the dirt?
And for all the little piggies
life is getting worse,
always having dirt to play around in.
Have you seen the bigger piggies
in their starched white shirts?
You will find the bigger piggies
stirring up the dirt,
always have clean shirts to play around in.
In their styes with all their backing
they don't care what goes on around.
In their eyes there's something lacking
what they need's a damn good whacking.
Everywhere there's lots of piggies
living piggy lives.
You can see them out for dinner
with their piggy wives
clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon.
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Rain - John Lennon (Commentary about negitve people, i.e., you, and featuring an amazingly melodic bassline, like modern rap has. Paul McCartney convinced the engineers at the record company to cut the grooves deeper in the vinyl, so the bass would sound out louder, paving the way for the bass-laden tracks of today. When you hear a nice bassline in your favorite rap song, you have Paul Fucking McCartney to thank for that, and his incredible basslines that were so nice, they couldn't be left turned down)
Rain
The Beatles
Lennon/McCartney
If the rain comes
they run and hide their heads
They might as well be dead
If the rain comes
If the rain comes
When the sun shines
they slip into the shade
and sip their lemonade
When the sun shines
When the sun shines
Rain, I don't mind
Shine, the weather's fine
I can show you
that when it starts to rain
everything's the same
I can show you
I can show you
Rain, I don't mind
Shine, the weather's fine
Can you hear me
that when it rains and shines
it's just a state of mind
Can you hear me
Can you hear me
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Revolution - John Lennon (DIRECT FUCKING COMMENTARY by John Lennon's superior mind on people like You, AND Rass Kass. He's talking to the Infinite's of the world with this one, but again, you're probably not intelligent enough to even decipher what he's saying)
You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money
for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
Ah
ah, ah, ah, ah, ah...
You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
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She Loves You - Paul McCartney (One of the Beatles greatest lyrics, so simple, but yet so perfectly right, nobody ever said it any better)
She Loves You
Beatles
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah,
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You think you've lost your love,
Well I saw her yesterday.
It's you she's thinking of
And she told me what to say.
She says she loves you,
And you know that can't be bad.
Yes, she loves you,
And you know you should be glad.
She said you hurt her so,
She almost lost her mind.
But now she says she knows
You're not the hurting kind.
She says she love you,
And you know that can't be bad.
Yes, she loves you,
And you know you should be glad, oooh.
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah,
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And with a love like that
You know you should be glad.
You know it's up to you,
I think it's only fair.
Pride can hurt you too,
Apologise to her.
Because she loves you
And you know that can't be bad.
Yes, she loves you,
And you know you should be glad, oooh.
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah,
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah.
With a love like that
You know you should be glad.
With a love like that
You know you should be glad.
With a love like that
You know you should be glad.
Yeh, yeah, yeah.
Yeh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She's Leaving Home - Paul & John (because they both wrote good parts in this... counterpoint singing between the minds of the girl who left her parents, and the minds of her parents who can't understand her or why she's not happy. This was in 1967. 40 years ago, John & Paul were writing introspective, meaningful social commentary, that wasn't harsh, cynical, or demeaning, just giving voice to opinions that existed in the world)
Wednesday morning at five o'clock
As the day begins
Silently closing her bedroom door
Leaving the note that she hoped would say more
She goes down the stairs to the kitchen
Clutching her handkerchief
Quietly turning the backdoor key
Stepping outside, she is free
She,... (we gave her most of our lives)
Is leaving (sacrified most of our lives)
Home (we gave her everything money could buy)
She's leaving home, after living alone, for so many years (bye bye)
Father snores as his wife gets into her dressing gown
Picks up the letter that's lying there
Standing alone at the top of the stairs
She breaks down and cries to her husband
"Daddy, our baby's gone.
"Why would she treat us so thoughtlessly?
How could she do this to me?"
She,..(we never thought of ourselves)
Is leaving (never a thought for ourselves)
Home (we struggled hard all our lives to get by)
She's leaving home, after living alone, for so many years
Friday morning, at nine o'clock
She is far away
Waiting to keep the appointment she made
Greeting a man from the Motortrade
She (what did we do that was wrong)
Is Having ( we didn't know it was wrong)
Fun (fun is the one thing that money can't buy)
Something inside, that was always denied, for so many years,..
She's leaving home,..bye bye.
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Strawberry Fields Forever - John Lennon (inspired by the location he met Paul at, "Strawberry Fields" in Liverpool, and written in a style not heard much before that time period. the production is groundbreaking as well)
Let me take you down
cause I'm going to strawberry fields
Nothing is real
and nothing to get hung about
Strawberry fields forever
Living is easy with eyes closed
Misunderstanding all you see
It's getting hard to be someone
but it all works out
It doesn't matter much to me
Let me take you down
cause I'm going to strawberry fields
Nothing is real
and nothing to get hung about
Strawberry fields forever
No one I think is in my tree
I mean it must be high or low
That is you know you can't tune it
but It's all right
That is I think it's not too bad
Let me take you down
cause I'm going to strawberry fields
Nothing is real
and nothing to get hung about
Strawberry fields forever
Always know sometimes it's me
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think a "No" will mean a "Yes"
but it's all wrong
that is I think I disagree
Let me take you down
cause I'm going to strawberry fields
Nothing is real
and nothing to get hung about
Strawberry fields forever
Strawberry fields forever
strawberry fields forever
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The End - Paul McCartney (The last song the beatles ever recorded)
Oh yeah, all right
Are you going to be in my dreams
Tonight?
And In The End, The Love You Take, Is Equal To The Love ... You Made.
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That's not even all of their great songs, not even close, and it doesn't even delve into the sometimes-better material in their solo catalogues. Rass Kass doesn't deserve to be a janitor on a liverpool tourbus.
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infinite.. i wrote a little song for you.
wigga wigga wigga wigga wigga please..
drop the black dick and get up from yo knees..
you can take a religion that aint white
if it helps you get your head down at night
ok i give up i'm bored..
lets break this down (in my best damon-x voice)
INFINITE IS A WHITE WANNA BE SELF LOATHING WIGGA ASS WIGGA
YOU HATE BEING WHITE
YOU WANT TO BE BLACK AS ITS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU REALLY ARE.. YOU HATE YOURSELF
YOU CHOSE A RELIGION OPPOSED TO THE 'CHRISTIAN' WHITE RELIGION YOU WERE RAISED IN.. YOU HATE YOUR UPBRINGING
YOU STICK UP FOR AND IDOLISE BLACK PEOPLE, RELIGIONS AND LEADERS..
EVERYTHING YOU ARENT YOU EMBRACE COZ IT HIDES THE TRUTH
YOU DISS WHITE PEOPEL AND CULTURE.. COZ U HATE THAT ITS WHAT YOU ARE.. YOU _ARE_ A WHITE HONKEY ASS CRACKA
YOU ARE STILL A "CRACKA" TO THE PEOPLE YOU ADMIRE NO MATTER
WHETHER YOU COPY THE RELIGION, LIFE STYLE... YOU STILL BE SEEN AS A CRACKA
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No band or artist has even come close to having the amount of classic songs The Beatles made. I can think of 35-45 songs that can be replayed over and over. Top 10 is:
1. She Loves You
2. In My Life
3. A Day in the Life
4. Hey Jude
5. Across The Universe
6. Something
7. All You Need is Love
8. Here, There & Everywhere
9. I Wanna Hold Your Hand
10. Here Comes The Sun
Missed around another 10 songs that I consider in the top 100 songs ever.
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Trauma, nice post. However, isn't Getting Better a song by Paul? I'm pretty sure, although I haven't listened to that song in full depth for a week or so.
Edit: Yes, Getting Better is by Paul.
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Infinite, you're a fool if you think you can compare Nature Of The Threat to The Beatles. Nature... has no rhythm, flows bad, and has terrible music to accompany it.
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^ and add to the the so called "Knowledge and intelligence" ras is creditted for is false.
1) he basically sumarised a book he read called "the isis papers" its not an original set of knowledge, just a summary of the book
2) the isis papers have already been debunked as inaccurate
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^ and add to the the so called "Knowledge and intelligence" ras is creditted for is false.
1) he basically sumarised a book he read called "the isis papers" its not an original set of knowledge, just a summary of the book
2) the isis papers have already been debunked as inaccurate
Yeah exactly.
Hell, I'm not trying to downplay Ras Kass as a whole, I like his music a lot. That's a bad song however.
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its pro-black though.. so our nigga 'finite gotsta love it
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yea i dont really have much to say that hasnt been said, but, to bring up nature of a threat as an example of Rass' best word is insane,.. this argument is never ending, infinite doesnt understand music, he doesnt understand lyrics, he thinks they need to be complex metaphors in order to be genius, btw. "all you need is love" is prob my top 3 songs, those lyrics are amaizng,
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ok Infinite, you´re a
hard impossible case of ignorance, yet something still makes me react. Congrats on that. Like Seer said, the Isis papers have been debunked. You´re easy to impress by somebody just saying some shit he defines as ´kicking knowledge´
December 25th, the birth of Saturn
A homosexual god, now check the historical pattern
December 25, now thought the birth of Christ
Was Saturnalia, when men got drunk,
fucked each other then beat their wife
Fact is, it was still practiced, til they called it Christmas
So put a gerbil on your Christmas list
Men practising homosexuality on Saturnalia is a wild assumption. It is true that December 25th is not the definite day of birth of Jesus Christ, however, the reason it was chosen for christmas day was partly because it coincided with the holiday of the profane festival and partly because some evidence did exist that Christ was actually born on that day. However, suggesting there is a connection between the two and then bringing in homosexuality is highly inadequate
The Hellenistic Era, Alexander the Great
Conquers all the way to India leavin four successor states
By the Fifth century B.C., R.O.M.E.
succeeds to be the conqueror of Egypt and Greece
But had the threat of the Black Phoenicians in Sicily
The Punic Wars began 264 B.C.
The Black general Hannibal and Carthaginian Peace
In 146 B.C. Carthage fell after a six-month siege
Rome sold every citizen to slavery
The first genocide of history
On a side note, this is ridiculously amateurish songwriting. As for the content, slavery had existed and flourished very long before the Roman culture rose; it was prevalent in Africa when Southern Europeans still sat around in caves. Nubia knew slavery and so did Egypt where slaves were kept for all purposes and also sacrificed. The only thing he could claim is that the Romans took something a step further that had already been known for centuries
And more bisexuality in sight; Julius Caesar was known as
"every woman's husband and every man's wife" (BEOTCH!)
More bisexuality? He first mentioned homosexuality, that´s not the same. Razzy, get your facts right. Anyways, it is known that in ancient africa there were certain tribes who did not condone homosexuality. Some even accepted adultery and/or incest and/or rape. This was before the birth of Cesar, I can tell you that
Spartacus Revolt, a slave rebellion that lost
Where 6,000 slaves was nailed on a cross
Cross? Aw, shit! Jesus Christ! Time for some-act-right
Christians get your facts right
Cause Christ was not his name
That's Greek for "One who is anointed"
Yoshua Ben Yosef was his name, do Christians know this?
So who do you praise, do you know his name?
Or do you do this in vain?
Accepting the religion they gave slaves to behave
Peep the description of historian Josephus
"Short, dark, with an underdeveloped beard was Jesus"
actually, "Jesus" does come from "Yeshua" and the way it was spelt. It is not just a name that was made up to cover His real identity. It is widely acknowledged that Jesus/Yeshua was middle eastern in appearance, what´s his point there? That some creatianists don´t?
He had the Romans fearing revolution
The solution was to take him to court and falsely accuse him
After being murdered by Pilate how can it be
these same white Romans established Christianity
Dumb question. Pilate died in the first half of the first century and it was in 313 that christians were given freedom of belief and in 391 that Romans established the religion. So, how could the same whites who enslaved blacks let them become lawyers, doctors and even politicians? ::)
Constantine would later see the cross in a dream
in his vision, it read "En Hawk Signo Wonka":
"In this sign we conquer" - Manifest Destiny
In 325 he convened the Nicean Creed
And separated god into three
Decided Jesus was born on December 25th
and raised then on the third day is a myth
Plus to deceive us
Commissioned Michelangelo to paint white pictures of Jesus
He used his aunt, uncle, and nephew
Subconsciously that affects you
It makes you put white people closer to God
This suggests that one person decided when Jesus was born, which is not true. Also, how does that correspond with the link Razzy sees to the evil fag tradition of Saturnia? Was that a coincidence then? So why does he mention it?
(Yo, 'The Man' got game like a motherfucker!)
True indeed, fuck it, Jihad
Should I comment on Razzy letting someone say he got game like a mothafucka for giving us a synopsis of the Isis Papers without really writing a song and him confirming that guy he payed off to say that himself and subsequently announcing Jihad? I guess not ::)
In the eight century Muslims conquered
Spain, Portugal and France and controlled it for 700 years
They never mention this in history class
cause o'fays are threatened when you get the real lesson
Moors from Baghdad, Turkey threatened European Christians
Meaning, the white way of life; hence the Crusades for Christ
On November 25th, 1491
Santiago defeats the last Muslim stronghold, Grenada
King Ferdinand gave thanks to God for victory
And the Pope of Rome and declared this date to forever be
A day of "Thanksgiving" for all European Christians
This part gives props to the Muslims for conquering large parts of Europe and depicts them as heroic fighters against the evil white way of life. In fact, Muslims conquering Europe is as just or injust as Europeans conquering whatever...it was territorial expansion, period. Sounds like Razzy accuses Europeans of having defended themselves
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Ok, again, this song is just full of shit, really. I am very well aware of all the deplorable and despicable acts committed by whites and europeans in world history, as well as I am strongly in favor of people receiving unbiased information on that, religion as a whole and Jesus/Yeshua in particular, but this is not only biased, it is absolutely stupid. The song itself, since this started out as a comparison to the Beatles, ain´t shit either; musically it´s lame, the lyrics contain a few forced rhymes "embedded" in a soliloquy that is borderline to prose and presented mind-blowingly off-beat.
The Isis papers having been "debunked as inaccurate" is actually almost a euphemism. From all I know about them, they are full of wild assumptions the author bases all her writing on, apodictically claiming they´re true without backing them up. Eg she claims that guns, the cross and swastikas are male black genitalia. Interestingly, the Swastika is an ancient Indian symbol. Then she sees a connection between melanin and intelligence and is actually oblivious of the fact that white people have melanin too (very hard to find out, since every white is exactly as white as every other white) and so on. From all I know there are no respected black scientists who respect the Isis papers
To sum up, I´m not THAT impressed. I think "I am the walrus, co-coo-co-choo" is better lyricism
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To sum up, I´m not THAT impressed. I think "I am the walrus, co-coo-co-choo" is better lyricism
u didnt like my song? :'(
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To sum up, I´m not THAT impressed. I think "I am the walrus, co-coo-co-choo" is better lyricism
u didnt like my song? :'(
It´s somewhere between Razzy and "I Am The Walrus"...not that bad for a first try. Believe in yourself and you can make it to the top! But for now....don´t quit the day job ;)
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Infinite, you´re such a fool. I might comment later, but Nature Of The Threat, even if you believe in that shit, is merely the reproduction of lexical information. He doesn´t flow, stay on beat or demonstrate any sort of eloquence saying what he says. And he never flows or stays on beat anyways
LOL... So now everybody at a West Coast Hip-Hop Forum suddenly becomes Beatle fans, I don't believe it, I think ya'll are just embarrassed because you think whites are superior but you love black music, so you have to find a few white bands to like to make yourself feel better. That may not be true for all of you, but I have a hard time believing that all these hip-hop heads at this forum are really bumping the Beatles more than their favorite rap cd's.
its funny cause ur mad, the 1 place, were u can come, and discus rap music, and hate on all other SUPERIOR types, and your world comes crashing down, when even the people at a rap forum can enjoy good classics..
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Infinite, you´re such a fool. I might comment later, but Nature Of The Threat, even if you believe in that shit, is merely the reproduction of lexical information. He doesn´t flow, stay on beat or demonstrate any sort of eloquence saying what he says. And he never flows or stays on beat anyways
LOL... So now everybody at a West Coast Hip-Hop Forum suddenly becomes Beatle fans, I don't believe it, I think ya'll are just embarrassed because you think whites are superior but you love black music, so you have to find a few white bands to like to make yourself feel better. That may not be true for all of you, but I have a hard time believing that all these hip-hop heads at this forum are really bumping the Beatles more than their favorite rap cd's.
its funny cause ur mad, the 1 place, were u can come, and discus rap music, and hate on all other SUPERIOR types, and your world comes crashing down, when even the people at a rap forum can enjoy good classics..
I don´t even think we need to bring in the aspect of what´s superior or more sophisticated. I love some simple music, from hiphop to Nirvana to punk and simple music can be genius.
But da homeboy Infinizzle has a simple pattern of thinking: This is a west coast hiphop forum -> It´s all about west coast hiphop and making a topic like this one is disloyal, despicable betrayal. The loss of all base value is rooted even more deeply though:
Outbound Connections
Diversify and discuss non West Coast rap related music topics here.
(and that includes other genres outside hiphop!)
We´re actually allowed to do this! now that´s something our nigga cannot believe and tolerate, let alone accept being a part of. How CAN us real niggas dat was down wit da ganxta shit listen to The Beatles and LIKE IT BETTER?? It´s tearing him apart. He has gone such a long way of firm determination in order to be accepted as a reel nigguh and now he´s stabbed in the back :'(
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its pro-black though.. so our nigga 'finite gotsta love it
For that matter, Eminem's "The Marshall Mathers LP" is more genius than anything the Beatles have done. And so is the "Eminem Show". Eminem is the 2nd greatest musical artist in history behind 2pac.
I'll post up some Eminem lyrics from those albums later, and we can compare them to "He Loves You Ya! Ya! Ya!" and get the same results.
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Eminem is the 2nd greatest musical artist in history behind 2pac.
lol. btw, is that the only thing you got a response for?
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Fuck the Beatles
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Trauma, nice post. However, isn't Getting Better a song by Paul? I'm pretty sure, although I haven't listened to that song in full depth for a week or so.
Edit: Yes, Getting Better is by Paul.
The Beatles would write songs apart, and then the other would add to it. John in this case added the lines he sings, about "I used to be mean to my woman, I beat her" which is why I listed him as writing it, since that was the line I was focusing on.
You've got a couple other errors in your original post, as well. The line that Paul wanted to change in "Hey Jude" that John made him keep was "The Movement you need is on your shoulders", not "Don't carry the world upon your shoulders".
The version of "All You Need Is Love" isn't the live version, it's the live version with a re-sang lead vocal by John Lennon.
Let It Be isn't about Paul's love of music, it's about his mother Mary, who died when he was a young boy. It's about the Beatles breaking up, and going through hard times, and how his mother appeared to him in his dreams one night, and told him to "Let It Be" and not be so worried about the turmoil him and the band were going through during their last 3 albums.
Paul didn't lose his voice singing Oh Darling! either, the story is he would arrive at Abbey Road an hour early every morning, and attempt a vocal take of the song... after a few weeks, he nailed it. He was trying to get the coarse, rough sound your voice has in the morning when you just woke up onto wax.
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Trauma, nice post. However, isn't Getting Better a song by Paul? I'm pretty sure, although I haven't listened to that song in full depth for a week or so.
Edit: Yes, Getting Better is by Paul.
The Beatles would write songs apart, and then the other would add to it. John in this case added the lines he sings, about "I used to be mean to my woman, I beat her" which is why I listed him as writing it, since that was the line I was focusing on.
You've got a couple other errors in your original post, as well. The line that Paul wanted to change in "Hey Jude" that John made him keep was "The Movement you need is on your shoulders", not "Don't carry the world upon your shoulders".
The version of "All You Need Is Love" isn't the live version, it's the live version with a re-sang lead vocal by John Lennon.
Let It Be isn't about Paul's love of music, it's about his mother Mary, who died when he was a young boy. It's about the Beatles breaking up, and going through hard times, and how his mother appeared to him in his dreams one night, and told him to "Let It Be" and not be so worried about the turmoil him and the band were going through during their last 3 albums.
Paul didn't lose his voice singing Oh Darling! either, the story is he would arrive at Abbey Road an hour early every morning, and attempt a vocal take of the song... after a few weeks, he nailed it. He was trying to get the coarse, rough sound your voice has in the morning when you just woke up onto wax.
Cool cool. I can always take corrections.
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its pro-black though.. so our nigga 'finite gotsta love it
For that matter, Eminem's "The Marshall Mathers LP" is more genius than anything the Beatles have done. And so is the "Eminem Show". Eminem is the 2nd greatest musical artist in history behind 2pac.
I'll post up some Eminem lyrics from those albums later, and we can compare them to "He Loves You Ya! Ya! Ya!" and get the same results.
Are you kidding me?
2Pac and Eminem are superior to Jimi Hendrix, Queen, Chuck Berry, Elvis Prestley, Prince, Curtis Mayfield, Stevie Ray Vuaghan, Eric Clapton, Johnny Cash, Marvin Gaye, Bob Dylan, etc...?
You sir, are a fucking jokehave poor taste in music. (It was immature of me to comment on his specific character instead of the topic at hand.
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its pro-black though.. so our nigga 'finite gotsta love it
For that matter, Eminem's "The Marshall Mathers LP" is more genius than anything the Beatles have done. And so is the "Eminem Show". Eminem is the 2nd greatest musical artist in history behind 2pac.
I'll post up some Eminem lyrics from those albums later, and we can compare them to "He Loves You Ya! Ya! Ya!" and get the same results.
You sir, are a fucking joke.
You didn't know that already?
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You sir, are a fucking joke.
NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT.....you do have a point, somehow....
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You sir, are a fucking joke.
NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT.....you do have a point, somehow....
;D
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Infinite, you´re such a fool. I might comment later, but Nature Of The Threat, even if you believe in that shit, is merely the reproduction of lexical information. He doesn´t flow, stay on beat or demonstrate any sort of eloquence saying what he says. And he never flows or stays on beat anyways
LOL... So now everybody at a West Coast Hip-Hop Forum suddenly becomes Beatle fans, I don't believe it, I think ya'll are just embarrassed because you think whites are superior but you love black music, so you have to find a few white bands to like to make yourself feel better. That may not be true for all of you, but I have a hard time believing that all these hip-hop heads at this forum are really bumping the Beatles more than their favorite rap cd's.
its funny cause ur mad, the 1 place, were u can come, and discus rap music, and hate on all other SUPERIOR types, and your world comes crashing down, when even the people at a rap forum can enjoy good classics..
I don´t even think we need to bring in the aspect of what´s superior or more sophisticated. I love some simple music, from hiphop to Nirvana to punk and simple music can be genius.
But da homeboy Infinizzle has a simple pattern of thinking: This is a west coast hiphop forum -> It´s all about west coast hiphop and making a topic like this one is disloyal, despicable betrayal. The loss of all base value is rooted even more deeply though:
Outbound Connections
Diversify and discuss non West Coast rap related music topics here.
(and that includes other genres outside hiphop!)
We´re actually allowed to do this! now that´s something our nigga cannot believe and tolerate, let alone accept being a part of. How CAN us real niggas dat was down wit da ganxta shit listen to The Beatles and LIKE IT BETTER?? It´s tearing him apart. He has gone such a long way of firm determination in order to be accepted as a reel nigguh and now he´s stabbed in the back :'(
yea thats wat i meant i phrased it wrong i guess
and infinite, please dont put eminem at number 2, he doesnt deserve it...
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Trauma, nice post. However, isn't Getting Better a song by Paul? I'm pretty sure, although I haven't listened to that song in full depth for a week or so.
Edit: Yes, Getting Better is by Paul.
The Beatles would write songs apart, and then the other would add to it. John in this case added the lines he sings, about "I used to be mean to my woman, I beat her" which is why I listed him as writing it, since that was the line I was focusing on.
You've got a couple other errors in your original post, as well. The line that Paul wanted to change in "Hey Jude" that John made him keep was "The Movement you need is on your shoulders", not "Don't carry the world upon your shoulders".
The version of "All You Need Is Love" isn't the live version, it's the live version with a re-sang lead vocal by John Lennon.
Let It Be isn't about Paul's love of music, it's about his mother Mary, who died when he was a young boy. It's about the Beatles breaking up, and going through hard times, and how his mother appeared to him in his dreams one night, and told him to "Let It Be" and not be so worried about the turmoil him and the band were going through during their last 3 albums.
Paul didn't lose his voice singing Oh Darling! either, the story is he would arrive at Abbey Road an hour early every morning, and attempt a vocal take of the song... after a few weeks, he nailed it. He was trying to get the coarse, rough sound your voice has in the morning when you just woke up onto wax.
Cool cool. I can always take corrections.
That's because you're a cool guy!
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Oh, and Lincoln, add to your list, nearly every classical composer who lived in the past 500 years or so. Of course he thinks Dr. Dre is a better musician than Beethoven (You know, Dre who makes incredibly head nodding beats that loop every 4 bars, and Beethoven, the man who cut the legs off his piano, and composed vast symphonies by feeling the vibrations of the floor after he went TOTALLY FUCKING DEAF). You'd think Infinite would be a big Beethoven fan, since they've got so much in common.
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Oh, and Lincoln, add to your list, nearly every classical composer who lived in the past 500 years or so.
Of course, I can definetly appreciate the classical music. I can listen to any kind of music.
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Has anyone else seen the Beatles Anthology? It's a good watch, almost 9 hours. I'd recommend watching it, I spread it out over 4 days when I saw it. Shows great performances, music videos, and goes into insanely vivid detail.
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^ ima take 1 day and watch it..
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Has anyone else seen the Beatles Anthology? It's a good watch, almost 9 hours. I'd recommend watching it, I spread it out over 4 days when I saw it. Shows great performances, music videos, and goes into insanely vivid detail.
haven´t seen the anthology, but i saw a whole bunch of documentations on them when i was young...might watch it when i got time, but that´s quite a problem, time for a 9 hour movie
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LOL at 2pac and Eminem being the 2 best musicians in the history of music
better than Jimi Hendrix?.........LMAO
better than Jelly Roll Mortin?.......LMAO
better than Quincy Jones?..........LMAO
better than phil Spector?.......LMAO
lol man ozzy osbourne is more important to the history of music than 2pac. lol
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it´s apalling how serious Infinite is taken...2pac was not better than Jimi? NO SHIT??
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LOL at 2pac and Eminem being the 2 best musicians in the history of music
How was 2pac a musician? Or how is Eminmen a fucking musician? They have no musicianship whatsoever, they rap. There is nothing musical about rapping. Not that I dislike rapping, that's another thing, I of course like it. But you don't need any musicianship to be able to rap. 2pac and Eminem were/are no musicians.
Anyway. The Beatles are probably one of, if not, the most important band of the 20th century. Overrated at times, like many bands, but good. I prefer the Velvet Underground, though. The Velvet Underground & Niceo is one of my favorite album. Anyway, Helter Skelter is probably my favorite Beatles song. It also partially paved the way for punk rock and heavy metal. Some also argue about it being the first heavy metal song.
Also, I don't think it's hard to argue about Miles Davis probably being the greate musician of the 20th century - although, in jazz, I prefer avant garde/experimental jazz like Sun Ra, my favorite.
If I had to name 1 band that is better than the Beatles are - there are quite a few. I'd say...Sonic Youth.
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my mom use to bump the beatles when i was younger
ill say i like them
but i know my grandma didnt
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its pro-black though.. so our nigga 'finite gotsta love it
For that matter, Eminem's "The Marshall Mathers LP" is more genius than anything the Beatles have done. And so is the "Eminem Show". Eminem is the 2nd greatest musical artist in history behind 2pac.
I'll post up some Eminem lyrics from those albums later, and we can compare them to "He Loves You Ya! Ya! Ya!" and get the same results.
Are you kidding me?
2Pac and Eminem are superior to Jimi Hendrix, Queen, Chuck Berry, Elvis Prestley, Prince, Curtis Mayfield, Stevie Ray Vuaghan, Eric Clapton, Johnny Cash, Marvin Gaye, Bob Dylan, etc...?
You sir, are a fucking jokehave poor taste in music. (It was immature of me to comment on his specific character instead of the topic at hand.
Elvis? Come the fuck on. He's the definition of overrated shit and should not be taken seriously. Besides, there are more than enough bands/musicians in modern day music that could easily be considered as good - if not, better - than most on that list. It's the legendary status of those artists they got because of the time they started.
Like, let's say, Led Zeppelin. Pretty cool band, but for Christ's sake, how fucking overrated can a band get? On every aspect, if I may add. They weren't that original - a lot of their riffs are ripped off from older blues riffs. They weren't that talented (Jimmy Page is not one of the greatest guitarists of all time, influential, I guess, but my God, he's not the most talented. The bass is fairly simple and Robert Plant's singing was just good. John Bonham, now that's talent). One song dragged on for too much time. Kashmir was fun, then the second minute of the song started and you'll start to lose interest.
Meshuggah, Slint, My Bloody Valentine, Opeth, Black Flag, Sonic Youth, Bad Brains, Joy Division, all belong on that list as much as most bands on that list do.
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^ i dont agree nor repect your opinions
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^ i dont agree nor repect your opinions
Of course you don't. Tell me, how many albums by the bands I listed did you actually hear?
Second of all, how much trouble do you have playing Jimmi Page's riffs? I pretty much have no trouble. And funny thing is, I'm probably the worst guitarist ever. If you want music that needs at least 10 times as much talent as Led Zeppelin, and is more creative - you know, without ripping off Leadbelly's riffs - you should hear New Millennium Cyanide Christ by Meshuggah.
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^ ok, so i finally listened to that song.. riiiiight... musically, its aight, a lil too heavy for my likings, but come on, thers just some douche screaming over the track, thats not skill...
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^ ok, so i finally listened to that song.. riiiiight... musically, its aight, a lil too heavy for my likings, but come on, thers just some douche screaming over the track, thats not skill...
No skill? I scream in a band. And it's hard to get the right tone out. Breath controll is important. Besides, you just don't scream, you push air from your stomache and rub your vocal chords fast to get a vocal fry. If not done properly, you'll fuck up your voice. This dude, however, screams for 20 years now, and his voice is still intact. You try to scream like Chino Moreno or Phil Anselmo without getting your voice hurt. No wait, don't. You need months of practice to develop a scream like that. And another thing, listen to the lyrics. Those are some of the most inventive lyrics ever in rock music.
Besides, don't you hear the guitar shredding? That needs a lot more skill than any Jimmy Page solo does. These guys are graduated jazz musicians. They're basically a death metal jazz band. Don't you hear those unconventional experimental jazz influenced time signatures? The - extremely fast - shredding?
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Classic post. Still it seems like y'all are selling a lot of MC's short. Look at the artform of a rap track compared to rock. Rap is at an obvious disadvantage.
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LOL at 2pac and Eminem being the 2 best musicians in the history of music
Anyway. The Beatles are probably one of, if not, the most important band of the 20th century.
If I had to name 1 band that is better than the Beatles are - there are quite a few. I'd say...Sonic Youth.
What a fuckin' joke. The Beatles are 'one of' the most important bands of the 20th century? Hmmm. They just invented modern music as you know it.
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its pro-black though.. so our nigga 'finite gotsta love it
For that matter, Eminem's "The Marshall Mathers LP" is more genius than anything the Beatles have done. And so is the "Eminem Show". Eminem is the 2nd greatest musical artist in history behind 2pac.
I'll post up some Eminem lyrics from those albums later, and we can compare them to "He Loves You Ya! Ya! Ya!" and get the same results.
Are you kidding me?
2Pac and Eminem are superior to Jimi Hendrix, Queen, Chuck Berry, Elvis Prestley, Prince, Curtis Mayfield, Stevie Ray Vuaghan, Eric Clapton, Johnny Cash, Marvin Gaye, Bob Dylan, etc...?
You sir, are a fucking jokehave poor taste in music. (It was immature of me to comment on his specific character instead of the topic at hand.
Elvis? Come the fuck on. He's the definition of overrated shit and should not be taken seriously. Besides, there are more than enough bands/musicians in modern day music that could easily be considered as good - if not, better - than most on that list. It's the legendary status of those artists they got because of the time they started.
Like, let's say, Led Zeppelin. Pretty cool band, but for Christ's sake, how fucking overrated can a band get? On every aspect, if I may add. They weren't that original - a lot of their riffs are ripped off from older blues riffs. They weren't that talented (Jimmy Page is not one of the greatest guitarists of all time, influential, I guess, but my God, he's not the most talented. The bass is fairly simple and Robert Plant's singing was just good. John Bonham, now that's talent). One song dragged on for too much time. Kashmir was fun, then the second minute of the song started and you'll start to lose interest.
Meshuggah, Slint, My Bloody Valentine, Opeth, Black Flag, Sonic Youth, Bad Brains, Joy Division, all belong on that list as much as most bands on that list do.
Did you get dropped on your head? You can't figure the difference between music you LIKE, and music that's TALENT. To say Elvis is overrated is insane. Find 1 thing he didn't do perfectly. He had a perfect voice, he could sing Rock & Roll, Country, Gospel, Blues, Rockabily, Jazz, and even OPERA. The guy was a musical virtuoso who was just as comfortable singing songs he heard in a black church as he was singing Jailhouse Rock. His contributions to the arts cannot be overstated.
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^ i dont agree nor repect your opinions
Of course you don't. Tell me, how many albums by the bands I listed did you actually hear?
Second of all, how much trouble do you have playing Jimmi Page's riffs? I pretty much have no trouble. And funny thing is, I'm probably the worst guitarist ever. If you want music that needs at least 10 times as much talent as Led Zeppelin, and is more creative - you know, without ripping off Leadbelly's riffs - you should hear New Millennium Cyanide Christ by Meshuggah.
I hate to keep piling on you, but you're so ignorant it's maddening. You admit you're a shitty guitar player, and then judge how good a guitar player is, by how hard it is to duplicate his riffs. That's not what makes a good guitarist. A good guitarist only needs to be competant, the talent lies in creativity, not in how fast or hard you can play. Here's a little analogy, since I'm sure you don't agree with me... but you're about to.
Lessay you have a car, it can go 120 miles an hour, no problem.. but it's a piece of shit Yugo. Your neighbor has a car that can go 150 miles an hour, no problem, and it's a fuckin' FERRARI. Nice car, beautiful. Your neighbor on the other side, has a car that can go 200 miles an hour! It's shaped like a fuckin' turd, has a 5 foot wing on the back of it, and has room for 1 person to sit in it!
Which car would you want, asswipe?
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^ i dont agree nor repect your opinions
Of course you don't. Tell me, how many albums by the bands I listed did you actually hear?
Second of all, how much trouble do you have playing Jimmi Page's riffs? I pretty much have no trouble. And funny thing is, I'm probably the worst guitarist ever. If you want music that needs at least 10 times as much talent as Led Zeppelin, and is more creative - you know, without ripping off Leadbelly's riffs - you should hear New Millennium Cyanide Christ by Meshuggah.
I hate to keep piling on you, but you're so ignorant it's maddening. You admit you're a shitty guitar player, and then judge how good a guitar player is, by how hard it is to duplicate his riffs. That's not what makes a good guitarist. A good guitarist only needs to be competant, the talent lies in creativity, not in how fast or hard you can play. Here's a little analogy, since I'm sure you don't agree with me... but you're about to.
Lessay you have a car, it can go 120 miles an hour, no problem.. but it's a piece of shit Yugo. Your neighbor has a car that can go 150 miles an hour, no problem, and it's a fuckin' FERRARI. Nice car, beautiful. Your neighbor on the other side, has a car that can go 200 miles an hour! It's shaped like a fuckin' turd, has a 5 foot wing on the back of it, and has room for 1 person to sit in it!
Which car would you want, asswipe?
Hey, that's a terrible comparison. I think Dream Theater are one of the most boring bands ever. But who cares? It doesn't change a thing about John Petrucci being able to play stuff that is 1000000 times harder than anything Jimmy Page could play.
And as I said before. Jimmy Page ripped blues guitarists off. He stole a lot of their riffs, how is that creative? Considering you know everything that MTV and mainstream music magazines told you, you should know the awnser to that question.
its pro-black though.. so our nigga 'finite gotsta love it
For that matter, Eminem's "The Marshall Mathers LP" is more genius than anything the Beatles have done. And so is the "Eminem Show". Eminem is the 2nd greatest musical artist in history behind 2pac.
I'll post up some Eminem lyrics from those albums later, and we can compare them to "He Loves You Ya! Ya! Ya!" and get the same results.
Are you kidding me?
2Pac and Eminem are superior to Jimi Hendrix, Queen, Chuck Berry, Elvis Prestley, Prince, Curtis Mayfield, Stevie Ray Vuaghan, Eric Clapton, Johnny Cash, Marvin Gaye, Bob Dylan, etc...?
You sir, are a fucking jokehave poor taste in music. (It was immature of me to comment on his specific character instead of the topic at hand.
Elvis? Come the fuck on. He's the definition of overrated shit and should not be taken seriously. Besides, there are more than enough bands/musicians in modern day music that could easily be considered as good - if not, better - than most on that list. It's the legendary status of those artists they got because of the time they started.
Like, let's say, Led Zeppelin. Pretty cool band, but for Christ's sake, how fucking overrated can a band get? On every aspect, if I may add. They weren't that original - a lot of their riffs are ripped off from older blues riffs. They weren't that talented (Jimmy Page is not one of the greatest guitarists of all time, influential, I guess, but my God, he's not the most talented. The bass is fairly simple and Robert Plant's singing was just good. John Bonham, now that's talent). One song dragged on for too much time. Kashmir was fun, then the second minute of the song started and you'll start to lose interest.
Meshuggah, Slint, My Bloody Valentine, Opeth, Black Flag, Sonic Youth, Bad Brains, Joy Division, all belong on that list as much as most bands on that list do.
Did you get dropped on your head? You can't figure the difference between music you LIKE, and music that's TALENT.
You said Coldplay and The Foo Fighters are some of the only talented bands left because you happen to like them. So fuck off and don't contradict yourself. Coldplay and the Foo Fighters wish they'd have the talent Dillinger Escape Plan, Meshuggah, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai en Dream Theater have. (And I can't stand the last 3 artists I mentioned).
And nice, Elvis did a lot of different stuff. What good is it if it sucks? He's a joke.
As I said a milion times before. I'm all for quality over talent. I just respect talent. Minor Threat is one of my favorite bands ever and they play some of the most basic music ever. I even like the fucking Raincoats that sounded like they got their instruments handed to them 2 days before they recorded their debut. Like I care, it sounds good.
Oh here's another thing for you to cry about;
Danny Carey from Tool is a better drummer than John Bonham for the overrated band known as Led Zeppelin.
Also, quote me where I said that I disliked Led Zeppelin. I just said they are extremely overrated. But yeah, I'm sure you'll be able to quote me where I said that I hated them.
It's funny how you consider yourself a holiness when it's about musical knowledge, but if anything, you are the opposite. You consume mass opinions like "Oh my God! Jimmy Page is the greatest!!!oneoneone" without even thinking about them. Wake up, the only music you know of is on MTV's or mainstream magazines' radar.
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elvis was not a good guitar player by any means, ive only been playing guitar for 2 years and im better and know more about guitars than he did. elvis only knew how to play three chords himself, some of his songs have more, but they we played by back up guitarists and added in to make him look more talented. hes a joke... just like trauma said and this is coming from an oldies lover.... what can i say, its a guilty pleasure :-[
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hes a joke... just like trauma said
Actually, I said Elvis was a joke. Trauma accepts the mass opinions, not me.
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michelle is funky as hell
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^ the song, its dope as hell, i dont know how it constitutes as funky, its just a soft song paul sings about a love 1, and its amazing...
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Hey The New Pollution;
Music is subjective. Get over it okay. Just because the bands you like aren't as highly regarded as bands like Zeppelin doesn't mean you have to go on all these tirades. Okay, so Petrucci can do things with an instrument that Page can't, big deal. Page manages to touch people with his music. Keep in mind that it was the people that made Zeppelin huge, not the record companies. Their highest selling album saw almost on AM radio play (which was the chosen frequency of the day), and didn't even have their band name on it.
Bands like that get spread around by the people. Zeppelin, Metallica, Sabbath, Velvet Underground, The Doors and bands like that get passed around by their fans and that creates more fans, and all of a sudden they become legends. These bands had a kind of magic in their songs and performances, or a they brought a new sound to the music table. Most of the guys you named so far aren't much more than Randy Rhodes rip offs. These guys have great technical skills and not much else. They lack the intangible element that makes legends. This doesn't mean they aren't good, but good is relative. You have to understand that.
If you really want high quality players you should sit in on rehearsals of any major symphony orchestra, because these piano virtuosos are way ahead of anyone in Tool, and any one of the lead violinists could/would play the shit out of any guitarist you can think of.
Personally, I go with soulful music and lyrics as my taste. This means anything that moves me musically or lyrically. Guys like Bruce Springsteen. I'm also a big fan of Bob Seger, Bob Dylan, Ritchie Havens, Joan Baez, etc.
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elvis was not a good guitar player by any means, ive only been playing guitar for 2 years and im better and know more about guitars than he did. elvis only knew how to play three chords himself, some of his songs have more, but they we played by back up guitarists and added in to make him look more talented. hes a joke... just like trauma said and this is coming from an oldies lover.... what can i say, its a guilty pleasure :-[
Elvis is not a joke. And you don't know a fucking thing ,(obviously) about Elvis' guitar playing. Have you seen his 68 comeback special? Elvis isn't considered "The King of Guitar Playing " (that would be Chet Atkins, another guy you know nothing about), he's considered the "King of Rock & Roll", and he is. Just because you were still a sperm in your daddy's nut sack when Elvis ruled the world doesn't mean he wasn't great. It just means you're late.
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Not to take anything away from Mr. Guitar, but isn't Jimi more renowned as the king of guitar? I'm not trying to tear down what you said. Maybe Jimi doesn't get as much credit down south.
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people like Steve Vai , Joe Satriani and JOhn petrucci are no doubt better guitar players than jimmy page and jimmi hendrix......but jimmy page and jimi hendrix made better music plain and simple.
like home boy said above me most of them are randy rhoads or Eddie Van Halen rip offs they might be able to shred like there's no tommorow but seriously when you listen to their music it's more of a circus act than music when you watch g3 dvd it's just steve joe and yngwie doing scales at 100 mph
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Hey The New Pollution;
Music is subjective. Get over it okay. Just because the bands you like aren't as highly regarded as bands like Zeppelin doesn't mean you have to go on all these tirades. Okay, so Petrucci can do things with an instrument that Page can't, big deal. Page manages to touch people with his music. Keep in mind that it was the people that made Zeppelin huge, not the record companies. Their highest selling album saw almost on AM radio play (which was the chosen frequency of the day), and didn't even have their band name on it.
Bands like that get spread around by the people. Zeppelin, Metallica, Sabbath, Velvet Underground, The Doors and bands like that get passed around by their fans and that creates more fans, and all of a sudden they become legends. These bands had a kind of magic in their songs and performances, or a they brought a new sound to the music table. Most of the guys you named so far aren't much more than Randy Rhodes rip offs. These guys have great technical skills and not much else. They lack the intangible element that makes legends. This doesn't mean they aren't good, but good is relative. You have to understand that.
good post
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yea, i like to listen to music, not just a bunch of rediculous riffs, which are sick, but i like singing, and just music, not a constant alone guitar sound, its impressive but boring