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Title: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: Matrix Heart on March 04, 2005, 12:44:32 PM
Just curious :D
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 04, 2005, 01:33:22 PM
Muslims believe that Allah is the Lord of the Systems of Knowledge.  The Qu'ran doesn't say that Allah is just the Lord of the Earth, but rather that Allah is the Lord of the Systems of Knowledge.  I don't know if there is extraterrestrial life, but if there is, Allah is the Supreme Ruler over all forms of life wherever they are.  Allah created everything, no creator but Allah, and Allah is the maintainer and sustainer of all things, no sustainer but Allah, and Allah is the first and the last, there is nothing that came before Allah and there will be nothing after Allah.  Peace.
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: *Jamal* on March 04, 2005, 01:50:19 PM
Muslims believe that Allah is the Lord of the Systems of Knowledge.  The Qu'ran doesn't say that Allah is just the Lord of the Earth, but rather that Allah is the Lord of the Systems of Knowledge.  I don't know if there is extraterrestrial life, but if there is, Allah is the Supreme Ruler over all forms of life wherever they are.  Allah created everything, no creator but Allah, and Allah is the maintainer and sustainer of all things, no sustainer but Allah, and Allah is the first and the last, there is nothing that came before Allah and there will be nothing after Allah.  Peace.

A "Yes" or "No" would've done the job.
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 04, 2005, 02:03:26 PM


A "Yes" or "No" would've done the job.

I have to talk about Allah, to remind people of the superficiality of this life, and the greatness of Allah, to remind them that all things are from Allah, that the effort has to always be towards Allah, and that Allah will provide us with the provision in this life, and in the hereafter.  Anything you want to do and be in this life, you must suppilicate and ask Allah first, because if Allah wished to benefit you with something, then nothing on Earth could prevent you from recieving that benefit, and if the whole world banded together to harm you with something, they could not harm you without the permission of Allah Subbana Wa Tallah.  You ask someone to talk about an album or a movie and they could go on forever, but you ask someone to talk about their Creator and they want to answer with Yes or No.  Thank you for the advice, but I feel that my answer was sufficient in explaining that all things are from Allah, as Allah is the Lord of all the systems of knowledge, and therefore extraterrestrial life does not shake nor hinder a Muslims faith in the reason and consistency of Allah's final message to mankind, the Noble Qu'ran, the Qu'ran Kareem (generous Qu'ran).  Allah is the creator of all things and conditions, he can change the condition of this Earth and universe without a moments notice, nothing but Allah can do this.  We need to get away from our attatchment to the life of this world, because the life of this world is temporary, and Allah is the Creator of all things in this world.  If you break down what money really is, money is a piece of paper, it is a piece of paper, but people will kill, and fight, and wage war over this piece of paper, because they believe that this piece of paper carries with it great benefit and harm, when on the Day of Judgement they will be shown their true reality, and the true reality is Allah, the Creator of all things and conditions, no Creator but Allah, and Allah will ask them why they ever fell into wrongdoing, thinking that paper could benefit them, when the only true source of life and pleasure is Allah.  Allah created pleasure, no creator but Allah, and Allah gives it to whoever he pleases.  There are people with all the money in the world, who have no peace of mind or pleasure, and that is because they are making no effort to Allah.  Allah is the Creator of pleasure no creator but Allah, so he will give pleasure and peace of mind to whoever he pleases.   The more you hear of Allah and his 99 names the more you will develop (taqua) a love and fear for Allah, and it will relieve you of your attatchment to the life of this world, and replace it with an attatchment and love for Allah.  Our purpose in this life is to worship Allah.  All praise and thanks is to Allah.

Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: *Jamal* on March 04, 2005, 02:18:30 PM
So you don't believe in extraterrestial life?
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 04, 2005, 02:22:21 PM
So you don't believe in extraterrestial life?

Muslims believe that Allah is the Lord of the Systems of Knowledge.  The Qu'ran doesn't say that Allah is just the Lord of the Earth, but rather that Allah is the Lord of the Systems of Knowledge.  I don't know if there is extraterrestrial life, but if there is, Allah is the Supreme Ruler over all forms of life wherever they are.  Allah created everything, no creator but Allah, and Allah is the maintainer and sustainer of all things, no sustainer but Allah, and Allah is the first and the last, there is nothing that came before Allah and there will be nothing after Allah.  Peace.
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: Don Seer on March 04, 2005, 02:25:18 PM
i believe so... almost 100%

whether intelligent or not is one thing, and whether we'll actually 'touch' it is another..


life that we can communicate with would be weird...


due to the distances and things involved its probably not worth it anyways.. LOL

if i had to put money on anything.. it'd be picking up an 'alien' transmission.. thats many years old...

and they'll just record and try to analyse the shit.. and it'll be some code like the hiero's for ages...




Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: 40oz GRApHire on March 04, 2005, 02:45:50 PM
Yes I do, also according to my Buddhism believe, Buddha did mention extraterrestrial life but was also unsecure about this matter but Buddha was Hindu from birth from which he had taken this knowledge about extraterrestrial life, he himself had no theorie about this matter...
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: DAYUM on March 04, 2005, 03:30:52 PM
So you don't believe in extraterrestial life?

Muslims believe that Allah is the Lord of the Systems of Knowledge.  The Qu'ran doesn't say that Allah is just the Lord of the Earth, but rather that Allah is the Lord of the Systems of Knowledge.  I don't know if there is extraterrestrial life, but if there is, Allah is the Supreme Ruler over all forms of life wherever they are.  Allah created everything, no creator but Allah, and Allah is the maintainer and sustainer of all things, no sustainer but Allah, and Allah is the first and the last, there is nothing that came before Allah and there will be nothing after Allah.  Peace.
he asked what u believed in not what muslims believe asshole...

anyways i think that umm god is great so he prolly made other ppl or whatever too
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: Rampant on March 04, 2005, 03:48:24 PM
Christians say no
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: Thirteen on March 04, 2005, 06:06:27 PM
i believe in God and i still say there's life on other planets
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: Trauma-san on March 04, 2005, 06:14:03 PM
I'm a Christian, and I believe in E.T. life.  I think it'd be pretty arrogant to think we're the only ones, especially after we've found fossils on mars.  Anyways, I believe the human mind cannot possibly fathom infinity, and it's commonly held that the universe is infinite in size, I guess you'd have to say that anything is not only possible, but virtually necessary or unavoidable in the expanse of infinite space.  If there's infinite space, then there's an infinite number of planets, and if there is an infinite number of planets, it's impossible for there NOT to be life out there somewhere.... because if there wasn't, you could just continue looking through infinity until you found it... and then if you DIDN'T find life... you could continue looking through infinity, again, until you found it.  So yeah, there's intelligent life out there, it just might take us all of time to find them. 

P.S. Science and Theology walk hand in hand, in almost every aspect. 
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: rafsta on March 04, 2005, 08:01:05 PM
it is highly unlikely that htere is no other life other than our own.... something like 1 in a 10000000000000000000000000 odds there are so many stars and galaxies out there its ridiculous to say there is no other life.

trauma: what evidence do you have of fossils on mars, thats just rumors dont say it like you know it... it could be tru but its unconfirmed, because the quest for finding life on other planets such as mars and one of the moons of saturn is still on. publicy it is not known whether there has or is life on mars. dont talk shit.
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: Sikotic™ on March 05, 2005, 01:09:29 PM
Nah, only white trash in the Mid West see that shit.
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: mauzip on March 05, 2005, 01:20:41 PM
uselesssouja
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: 7even on March 05, 2005, 01:35:34 PM
you gotta be megalomaniac to not believe in it. the universe is so damn big, how the hell can we fools be the only living being in it. plain nuts.
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: Sikotic™ on March 05, 2005, 02:40:23 PM
you gotta be megalomaniac to not believe in it. the universe is so damn big, how the hell can we fools be the only living being in it. plain nuts.

See, you have faith in something afterall  ;D
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: Doggystylin on March 05, 2005, 02:43:10 PM
their already here.....among us... i mean who says they have look all weird with huge heads and eyes
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: Sikotic™ on March 05, 2005, 02:45:29 PM
their already here.....among us... i mean who says they have look all weird with huge heads and eyes

For example:

(http://www.uglypeople.com/uploaded/6/ugly3.jpg)
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: nibs on March 05, 2005, 05:19:03 PM
extraterrestrials told me not to believe in "god".
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: Trauma-san on March 06, 2005, 07:51:28 PM
it is highly unlikely that htere is no other life other than our own.... something like 1 in a 10000000000000000000000000 odds there are so many stars and galaxies out there its ridiculous to say there is no other life.

trauma: what evidence do you have of fossils on mars, thats just rumors dont say it like you know it... it could be tru but its unconfirmed, because the quest for finding life on other planets such as mars and one of the moons of saturn is still on. publicy it is not known whether there has or is life on mars. dont talk shit.

I don't talk shit I can't back up.  Again your mind fails you.

Here's a picture of fossilized martian molecules, obtained from a meteorite, and posted on NASA's own website.

(http://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/marslife/s96-12301.jpg)

http://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/marslife/s96-12301.jpg

Apologize for insinuating you knew something I didn't, twit. 
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: rafsta on March 07, 2005, 08:10:47 PM
LOL i still dont see a fossil.... that could be a picture of anything.
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: rafsta on March 07, 2005, 08:14:18 PM
Life on Mars?
A group of scientists led by David McKay of NASA's Johnson Space Center has published an article in the August 16 issue of Science magazine announcing the discovery of evidence for primitive bacterial life on Mars. An examination of a meteorite found in Antarctica and believed to be from Mars shows: 1) hydrocarbons which are the same as breakdown products of dead micro-organisms on Earth, 2) mineral phases consistent with by-products of bacterial activity, and 3) tiny carbonate globules which may be microfossils of the primitive bacteria, all within a few hundred-thousandths of an inch of each other. Based on age dating of the meteorite, the following scenario has been proposed:

dont forget the lack of public support for nasa, they release shit like this to stir emotions... im not sayin its false, just dont believe everything you read... there is no evidense, just presumptions and guesses....
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: T.J. on March 08, 2005, 01:45:50 AM
yeah.... think, the sun is a star, planets in our solar system revolve around it, there are billions upon billions of stars, as if other stars won't have planets revolving around them with other life forms living on them...
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: rafsta on March 08, 2005, 07:41:32 AM
^^^ theres trillion upom trillions of galaxies man, the amount of stars out there is uncountable... in the milky way alone (our galaxy) there are trillions upon trillions of stars.....
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: acbaylove on March 08, 2005, 05:22:52 PM
A "Yes" or "No" would've done the job.
So you don't believe in extraterrestial life?

LMAOOOOOOOO

Christians say no

Right, but it's not about Christianity. It's about science and facts.
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: rafsta on March 08, 2005, 05:25:51 PM
^^^ theres trillion upom trillions of galaxies man, the amount of stars out there is uncountable... in the milky way alone (our galaxy) there are trillions upon trillions of stars.....

hey man youre 100% right !!!
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: white Boy on March 16, 2005, 04:05:14 PM
I think it'd be pretty arrogant to think we're the only ones, especially after we've found fossils on mars. Anyways, I believe the human mind cannot possibly fathom infinity, and it's commonly held that the universe is infinite in size, I guess you'd have to say that anything is not only possible, but virtually necessary or unavoidable in the expanse of infinite space. If there's infinite space, then there's an infinite number of planets, and if there is an infinite number of planets, it's impossible for there NOT to be life out there somewhere.... because if there wasn't, you could just continue looking through infinity until you found it... and then if you DIDN'T find life... you could continue looking through infinity, again, until you found it. So yeah, there's intelligent life out there, it just might take us all of time to find them.

P.S. Science and Theology walk hand in hand, in almost every aspect.
i agree 100% ...
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: rafsta on March 17, 2005, 07:29:39 PM
change of view.

the odds are against me but... a simple answer.. i believe there is no other intelligent life out there.
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: AndrE16686 on April 14, 2005, 07:30:04 AM
I believe.....wtf we are just on a blue ball spining through space all by ourselves in the great void of the universe.....If so God has a weird sense of humour.
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: krazykokonutz on April 14, 2005, 08:54:59 AM
first of all there all billion and billions of galaxies so u would think the chances of there being life would be 100 percent. but if u consider that the planet has to have a star nearby to support life then some of those chances would be decreased. after that it has to be have some kind of earth it cant be a gaseous planet. so that cuts down the chances more. then it has to be the right distance from its star. it has to have the right amount of gravity and must the same kind of core that we have and some magnetic shit. i read a book on it that said even though there are billions of galaxies everything must be really precise to support life. even microbial llife. if u think about it mars might have some kind of microbial life. but we dont know for sure and it gets so cold on there at night and so hot in the day. not to mention that big ass volcano, olympus mons. if that thing was to erupt here on earth then we could say goodbye to all life. but  i believe there is some type of microbial life out there somewhere but we have very remote chances of discovering that
Title: Re: Religious members 'especially' - Do you believe in extraterrestrial life ?
Post by: Cheese on April 15, 2005, 05:35:41 AM
Off course there is, the galaxy is infinite, so anything's possible. Thing is, it's just hard to imagine, cause other life can be something beyond our capabilities of cognition and what we can understand. There may be whole new elements and dimensions, but people just can't understand them, because our brains aren't adapted to them