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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: AndrE16686 on April 12, 2005, 12:54:59 AM

Title: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: AndrE16686 on April 12, 2005, 12:54:59 AM
Hiphop now has a huge presence in U.S society and that of the world. Political and social issues have traditionally been addressed in hiphop, but this phase appears to be coming to an end, in a new era of rap. Mainstream rap seems more concerned with recycling the material image of the thugged out era, while ignoring the accompanying revolutionary spirit and consciousness. Has this consciousness reached it's end of days as rap begins to look more like a get rich scheme, rather than being based on the artist's ability and substance? >:( 8) ;D
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: 7even on April 12, 2005, 04:43:51 AM
 :sign_lastweek:

This sign is by far not enough.

Of course rappers should write better lyrics, what the hell is there to debate on?
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: Diabolical on April 12, 2005, 12:14:23 PM
Lots of rappers do just the ones who are popular dont. And they only should if they have a valid point to make.
I dont want to hear 50 Cent trying to do it.
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: jpm on April 12, 2005, 12:15:49 PM
I dont want to hear 50 Cent trying to do it.

word
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: 7even on April 12, 2005, 01:47:18 PM
50 is actually a talented lyricist. Not rhyme-wise, but he can come up with impressive lines. You have to understand that since he's signed to Aftermath, he has to dumb down. Still GRODT has some good lines.
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: rafsta on April 12, 2005, 04:27:01 PM
Hiphop now has a huge presence in U.S society and that of the world. Political and social issues have traditionally been addressed in hiphop, but this phase appears to be coming to an end, in a new era of rap. Mainstream rap seems more concerned with recycling the material image of the thugged out era, while ignoring the accompanying revolutionary spirit and consciousness. Has this consciousness reached it's end of days as rap begins to look more like a get rich scheme, rather than being based on the artist's ability and substance? >:( 8) ;D

if theyre well educated then why not speak on political issues ? i dont like rappers fabricating history to spark controversy *caughs* rass kass...
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 12, 2005, 04:36:13 PM
If they feel compelled to, then fuck yeah. If anyone feels like sharing their views then they should.
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 12, 2005, 04:55:02 PM
Hiphop now has a huge presence in U.S society and that of the world. Political and social issues have traditionally been addressed in hiphop, but this phase appears to be coming to an end, in a new era of rap. Mainstream rap seems more concerned with recycling the material image of the thugged out era, while ignoring the accompanying revolutionary spirit and consciousness. Has this consciousness reached it's end of days as rap begins to look more like a get rich scheme, rather than being based on the artist's ability and substance? >:( 8) ;D

The Zulu Nation started out as a street gang, and when they turned to hip-hop it was primarily as a tool to raise the consciousness of the streets, and it was also used as a tool of resistance for the poor and disenfranchised.  It was the voice of the streets.  I think it was Chuck D who called it the black CNN.  Sure, it was also about partying and having a good time and all of that, but even rappers like 2pac who claimed who brought thug life to the forefront also had a political side.  2pac knew what the music was really for, that it was a waste if it didn't improve the plight of his people, that it was a waste if it didn't advance the struggle of his people. 

Like anything in life, you can use it for good or you can use it for evil.  Today rappers are just wasting the art form.  Even rappers like Talib Kweli, Mos Def and Common really aren't that conscious anymore.  Remember when Ice Cube used to be a political rapper?  Even the Chronic was political in my opinoin, it was speaking on police brutality, the LA riots, Rodney King trial, black empowerment.  But Dre's latest record has almost zero political content.  For that matter, back in the day, even pop rappers like MC Hammer had a few uplifting, empowering tracks on their albums.  Or a gangsta rapper like Ice Tea still dropped some gems of knowledge.  Times have changed, and it's getting worse. 
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: Kal EL on April 13, 2005, 08:13:53 AM
While I would LOVE to hear content overall this Bullshit. I have to agree that it would only be good if the person had A) a valid point and B) something to say other than murder,steal, bitches.
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: Diabolical on April 13, 2005, 08:21:24 AM
I have never heard 50 Cent say one intelligent thing about politics or society.
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on April 13, 2005, 01:25:10 PM
yes they should, that's why Pac IMO is the G.O.A.T. because he spoke about social and political issues unlike these rappers nowadays
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: AndrE16686 on April 13, 2005, 11:43:19 PM
yes they should, that's why Pac IMO is the G.O.A.T. because he spoke about social and political issues unlike these rappers nowadays

Yeah this is also probably why no other rapper has managed to come near his standard. But with the trend of following in the likeness of Pac's image, why is it that rappers choose to take elements of his thug persona and ignore everything else meaningful he stood for? Is it a fear of upsetting the same people Pac did? Are rappers now hesitant to follow in his steps in fear that they create too much of a stir in certain circles of society. Pac wouldn't of been able to keep silent on the increasing bullshit being committed. What is it with other self confessed thug life MCs rapping as if hiphop is only about holding heat, bitches and wearing a bulletproof vest evey hour of the day? 
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: HK Mofo on April 18, 2005, 01:52:48 AM
YES!  Rappers should speak out more on social and political issues in rhyme!  The power of the spoken word... in rhythm?  What communication thru art is stronger?
Title: Re: Should rappers speak out more on social and political issues?
Post by: Bomb-A® on April 18, 2005, 08:24:08 AM
there are rappers who touch on social and political issuese....but no1 buys their shit



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