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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Miss NWA Whoorider on May 20, 2005, 10:41:50 AM
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Okay here is a thought for the muslims
what if Jesus is more then you think He is?
what would you lose if you realized that there might be more to Jesus then just meets the eye?
Let me give you an example,do you know why God made Jesus ugly,plain,all that?
Because he didn't want him to face vanity.................
That make sense?
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God sent thousands of messengers, some known and some unknown. Every messenger, from Adam, to Noah, to Abraham, to Moses, to Jesus, to Muhammad, etc., preached that God is one, and to do righteous good deeds. When you see traces of this monotheism amongst a culture, you know that is something that has been perserved from a messenger that had been sent to them.
Then suddenly, years after the Prophet Jesus, Paul claims he has a vision, and Paul starts preaching that Jesus is a partner to God, a deviation from the path that is straight, and thus laying the foundation for the trinity. The name "Christian" didn't even come about until years after Jesus had died.
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God sent thousands of messengers, some known and some unknown. Every messenger, from Adam, to Noah, to Abraham, to Moses, to Jesus, to Muhammad, etc., preached that God is one, and to do righteous good deeds. When you see traces of this monotheism amongst a culture, you know that is something that has been perserved from a messenger that had been sent to them.
Then suddenly, years after the Prophet Jesus, Paul claims he has a vision, and Paul starts preaching that Jesus is a partner to God, a deviation from the path that is straight, and thus laying the foundation for the trinity. The name "Christian" didn't even come about until years after Jesus had died.
all of the prophets claimed this, it's in the bible that Jesus said it himself... where did you get this info from ?
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hold on now,let me get this straight Jesus is just a prophet?
when the whole bible mentions that Jesus is coming and that they have no right in front of him..........
okay can I ask you what would you lose if I told you that you should not limit him like that?
that he just might be much more then when you looked at him the first time............
I want you to seriously think now,if limiting the bible is all you believe then that is not good my freind......
Can you see in your head where the bible is capable of so much more?
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what would you lose if you realized that there might be more to Jesus then just meets the eye?
what part of Jesus 'meets the eye'?
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well hmmmmm let me think,we know he was a guy
we know he represented mankind and we also know he had long hair..........
the rest we know is out of the bible
but you can tell some of the facts if you look at him
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im only 20 pages into my bible so im not onto everythinh yet
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okay lets start with fact,the bible has been around longer then the quran................
doubt me,ya betta ask somebody..........and there is no mention of allah anywhere in the bible
now I would think that that is odd,because it certainly mentions Jesus cousin,next dorr neighbor and everyone else under heaven........including satan
so now how much do you believe in allah?
and how much do you believe in Jesus?
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okay lets start with fact,the bible has been around longer then the quran................
doubt me,ya betta ask somebody..........and there is no mention of allah anywhere in the bible
now I would think that that is odd,because it certainly mentions Jesus cousin,next dorr neighbor and everyone else under heaven........including satan
so now how much do you believe in allah?
and how much do you believe in Jesus?
The only reason you think that the Bible doesn't mention Allah is because you are reading the English translation of the Bible. Jesus and his followers obviously did not speak English. Infact, the language they spoke in is no longer in existence. The English word that is used is "God". But just the same, if you go and read the Bible of an Arab Christian, it will say "Allah". "God" is the English word they use for "Allah". So go and tell a Lebanese Christian that Allah is not mentioned in the Bible and he will look at you like you are crazy.
And yes, the Bible has been around longer than the Qu'ran, nobody disputes that. Muhammad (pbuh) was the last of Allah's messengers and he lived about 600 years after Jesus.
How much do we believe in Jesus. We make no distinction between Jesus and Muhammad, they were both men, and messengers of Allah. The difference is that the language of Muhammad (Arabic) is still in existence today, and Allah promised that the Qu'ran would be perserved till the end of time, because Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to all mankind and he is the last messenger! Alhamdulillah rabbil Al-Amin, bismillah ar-rahmanir raheem.
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okay lets start with fact,the bible has been around longer then the quran................
doubt me,ya betta ask somebody..........and there is no mention of allah anywhere in the bible
now I would think that that is odd,because it certainly mentions Jesus cousin,next dorr neighbor and everyone else under heaven........including satan
so now how much do you believe in allah?
and how much do you believe in Jesus?
The only reason you think that the Bible doesn't mention Allah is because you are reading the English translation of the Bible. Jesus and his followers obviously did not speak English. Infact, the language they spoke in is no longer in existence. The English word that is used is "God". But just the same, if you go and read the Bible of an Arab Christian, it will say "Allah". "God" is the English word they use for "Allah". So go and tell a Lebanese Christian that Allah is not mentioned in the Bible and he will look at you like you are crazy.
WRONG! WRONG! HAHAHA LMAO!!!! I SWEAR, MY HOMIE HERE, CHARLIE, HE's A LEBONESE CATHOLIC!!!! HAHAHA!! LMAO!! HE's HARDCORE TOO IMO! he's standing right next to me, he's laughing at what your saying, he said they say its "Jehova" or whatnot like jehova witnesses, not Allah!!! LOL!! Dont invent things Infinate......LMAO! it was funny how you said Lebonese and he's right here seein me type all this, he says im making a whole mess of spellin mistakes too, lol....but yea, what a coinsidence.
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WRONG! WRONG! HAHAHA LMAO!!!! I SWEAR, MY HOMIE HERE, CHARLIE, HE's A LEBONESE CATHOLIC!!!! HAHAHA!! LMAO!! HE's HARDCORE TOO IMO! he's standing right next to me, he's laughing at what your saying, he said they say its "Jehova" or whatnot like jehova witnesses, not Allah!!! LOL!! Dont invent things Infinate......LMAO! it was funny how you said Lebonese and he's right here seein me type all this, he says im making a whole mess of spellin mistakes too, lol....but yea, what a coinsidence.
Do any search on your computer about Arabic Bibles and the word Allah. Try it yourself.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/allah6.htm
In the city of Madina in what we call today "Saudi Arabia", there were three main religions: Idol worshiping, Judaism and Christianity. The name of the Jewish leader who also was the Highest Priest in Madina before Islam came was "Abdallah Bin-Saba". His Arabic name was not "AbdElohim Bin-Saba" or "AbdElloi Bin-Saba" or "AbdGOD Bin-Saba". The reason why his first name was "Abdallah" is because the Arab Jews in Madina used the word "Allah" for GOD in their Holy Scriptures. The word "Allah" did indeed exist in the Arabic Talmud and the other Jewish Holy Scriptures.
Also, the Christians' Arabic Bible at that time used the word "Allah" for GOD. Even today's Christians' Arabic Bibles use the word "Allah" for GOD. Today in the Middle East, Christians sometimes name their kids "Abdallah". Also there are Christian families who's last names is "Abdallah".
In today's Arabic Bible, the word "Allah" is used for both the Old Testament and the New Testament.
http://www.abdulla.faris.com/Etymology_of_the_Name.html
In common roots with all Abrahamic religions, ie. Judaism, Christianity and Islam, "Allah" is the same word that Arabic-speaking Christians and Jews use for God. Arabic Torah, Bibles and Qur'an, the word "Allah" is used where "God" is used in English. Allah is the only word in the Arabic language equivalent to the English word "God". However, Allah is somewhat a unique word grammatically, since it cannot be made plural or given gender (i.e. masculine or feminine), which goes hand-in-hand with the Islamic concept of God. The root word "God" in English, for instance, can be used in similar forms, such as "God", "Gods" or "Goddess".
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OK...so u look online for meanings of things, when I, actually got the info firsthand from an ACTUAL LEBONESE Christian!!!......PA PA PLEASE!!!....I want him to sign up for the boards to teach u a few things, hopefully he does before he leaves in 4 days......he spits real knowledge, not some one sided bullshit u spit, lookin up everything online, thinkin its the truth, what would u rather believe firsthand info from a person or from a computer.....anyways, i dont even remember what this whole discussion was about, i just know that when i started readin this he walked in and read it and he started bustin up, laughin at you and all, well...thats the end
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yer but not all lebos will be all that interested in that shit, he may have no clue
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what if Jesus is a fable?
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the word allah simply means god, u wont find an arabic chritsian saying god..
god is god, god is allah, god is lord, all words refer to our creator
thing about jesus, we believe in him, part of believing in islam is believing that god sent many messengers before muhhamad to ppl all around the earth, part of believing in quran is believing in the bible and tawrat (jews book)..... we believe he was sent with bible, but a different bible than wats preached today... and we also believe that he was not crusified, god took hiim before he got to him and created a man that looks like him to crucified instead....
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Okay here is a thought for the christians
what if Mohamad is more then you think He is?
what would you lose if you realized that there might be more to Mohamad then just meets the eye?
Let me give you an example,do you know why Allah made Mohamad ugly,plain,all that?
Because he didn't want him to face vanity.................
Now does that make sense?
Your probably laughing at me right now. Muslims were doing the same thing when they read your lines.
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what would you lose if you realized that there might be more to Mohamad then just meets the eye?
(this isn't necessarily a response to you, but more a general response to the question)
You wouldn't lose anything, with Muhammed or Jesus. Why do all these religious nuts assume God is stupid?. Why would God send one guy in one part of the world and not the others? Why would God not know that it's stupid to force your religion on other culture that live no less righteous than you do? Why would God not know that the only way these new religions would spread would be through bloodshed and threats? The answer is he would know, and guess what he did, he sent various righteous figures to various parts of the world with the same message. Now why don't all you dummies stop trying to convert each other and just realize that all your messages are the same. Don't do bad things and you'll be alright. Learn to except one another as equal.
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i think there is no god,if you believe in god...good 4 you..i dont discriminate,everyone is free to choose what to believe in!...I'll explain my theory ( if i offended someone,sorry,it was not my goal,if i made you think..well great!) Look at the world we live in....full of shit - murder,rape,underage prostitution,pedophile,ppl dying of starvation,aids,genocides,wars,natural disasters...We are destroying ourselve and the earth we live on.Do you really think there is a god? Does your God see us now? Maybe he likes what he is seeing,an extreme reallity show...last one alive get's a free trip to heaven!If he's all good and powerfull,why does he make us stops? Maybe he's saying : poor little fools...keep on killing yourself...it's a great show from up above....
feel free to respond ;)
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^^^^ kinda agree with you, although I do think there is something up there, this didnt come from nothing
but, I don't believe all that Bible crap and religious following shit, I'm not into that and I think if you
truly believe there is a God or somethin like it, like me, then that's all you need to do
I look at church like a cult. Nothin against people who go, my grandparents go everyday
but, sitting together and reading stuff that u arent sure is true and was supposedly made thousands of years ago
please, i dunno, forgive me if I am wrong but it's just too hard to believe, I don't like "worshipping" a mystery
I believe we all have a set path of destiny from the time we are born, if we are to be great it was intended
If we are fuck ups, its because we didnt do something at one point to change it and it wasnt in the cards for you
think of all the bad things and ugly people and deformities, everything is the way it is for a reason
and a good quote is "we learn from our mistakes"
All the shit you see, the war etc..... everything will eventually come to an end and we'll have learned hopefully anybody has
But most likely the time everyone learns how dumb they are about doing that kinda shit it's too late
a big consequence will appear in spite of their actions, probably when man-kind kills the Earth
just one little example, look at how bad fuckin idiots fuck up the ocean
Killing shit for sport, out of being mean, or fishing and taking out populations of fish and making the coral area extinct
Also people kill sharks, millions every year, some just for soup, and the shark is one of the most important in the sea
When there are no more sharks, too many fish will be around to eat the plantation and coral etc...
So there will then be no more food for all the fish and they will die and than lots of other animals in the sea won't be able to eat
it's a chain reaction and that answer to you askin why there is fucked up shit is because it is happening for a reaon
So pretty much we are born and we are either gonna do good or bad
our life revolves around karma and everything on Earth and every little detail is around for a reason
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okay lets start with fact,the bible has been around longer then the quran................
doubt me,ya betta ask somebody..........and there is no mention of allah anywhere in the bible
now I would think that that is odd,because it certainly mentions Jesus cousin,next dorr neighbor and everyone else under heaven........including satan
so now how much do you believe in allah?
and how much do you believe in Jesus?
The only reason you think that the Bible doesn't mention Allah is because you are reading the English translation of the Bible. Jesus and his followers obviously did not speak English. Infact, the language they spoke in is no longer in existence. The English word that is used is "God". But just the same, if you go and read the Bible of an Arab Christian, it will say "Allah". "God" is the English word they use for "Allah". So go and tell a Lebanese Christian that Allah is not mentioned in the Bible and he will look at you like you are crazy.
WRONG! WRONG! HAHAHA LMAO!!!! I SWEAR, MY HOMIE HERE, CHARLIE, HE's A LEBONESE CATHOLIC!!!! HAHAHA!! LMAO!! HE's HARDCORE TOO IMO! he's standing right next to me, he's laughing at what your saying, he said they say its "Jehova" or whatnot like jehova witnesses, not Allah!!! LOL!! Dont invent things Infinate......LMAO! it was funny how you said Lebonese and he's right here seein me type all this, he says im making a whole mess of spellin mistakes too, lol....but yea, what a coinsidence.
you really made a fool of yourself
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im not reading all these comments to further proove my theory that infinite is ignorant, and that fat bitch is a complete idiot
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what if Jesus is a fable?
how is that possible ?