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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on May 23, 2005, 02:20:56 PM
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"Me Against The World" > "R U Still Down" > "Stricly 4 My Niggaz"......anyone agree?
..... and also, where did all the tracks come from for "R U Still Down"? Were they all really recorded and finished before 1994, or were they old tracks that were remixed? Was it origionally supposed to be his "Troublesome" 3rd album that got scrapped? If so, why would they have scrapped that record, it's a great album! It's better than 98% of the music on the shelf.
It has everything from political content (Nothing to Lose, Open Fire), to superb storytelling (16 On Death Row), to spiritual influences (Wonder if Heaven's Got A Ghetto), he has East Coast Records (Thug Style), West Coast (I'm Gettin Money) Party tracks (Lie To Kick It, Fake Ass Bitches) sad songs (Fuck Ya'll) introspective songs (R U Still Down) this is classic 2pac, and the production is on the highest proffesional level in my opinion. I still listen to this album, more than 10 years after Pac supposedly created it the album is still fresh!
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RUSD is very underrated.....not sure if its better than Strictly though.
Basically, most of the songs on that album were recorded between 92'-94', so there are a few songs from the 2Pacalypse Now - Strictly sessions. But most of the album is more Thug Life/MATW era, and in fact, many of the songs are what was going to be the original Me Against the World album. Remember, Pac changed the album entirely because Biggie bit off of him and released Ready to Die.
The production is really nice in some areas, but mediocre in others. Lot of great songs on this though, much better than any of the recent posthumous albums that have come out. I still play it frequently, though not as often as MATW, AEOM or Makaveli.
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RUSD is very underrated.....
It's no doubt the better Pac produced album from 1997 to 2005.
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Im getting money is one of tupacs best songs
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RUSD is very underrated.....
It's no doubt the better Pac produced album from 1997 to 2005.
with the exception of maybe Still I Rise.
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RUSD is very underrated.....
It's no doubt the better Pac produced album from 1997 to 2005.
with the exception of maybe Still I Rise.
You know, i prefeer RUSD because they remixed the tracks without totally changing the beats, you know. They just made them more fresh, clean.. in a single word: better. And it's the only remixed album who's better than the OG project. The only one. Still I Rise got good productions too, but the OG tracks are by far better than the remixed ones. That's why i'mma go with RUSD.
RUSD released > RUSD original
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^^^true, though much of Still I Rise was close to the og as well.
U Can Be Touched, Still I Rise, Tattoo Tears, Secretz of War were changed were messed up but the rest of the songs were close to og. Well, Black Jesus was changed also, though that song was changed for the better IMO.
I dont understand why Afeni would leave RUSD and Still I Rise close to their original form, but ruin albums like Better Dayz, UTEOT and LTTG.....
UTEOT would have been an AMAZING album in its original form, which makes that release all the more dissapointing to me.
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There is a reason those songs are leftovers. The album is pretty weak.
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So many great songs on that album. "Open Fire", "R U Still Down", "Hellrazor","Only Fear Of Death", "I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto", "When I Get Free".
Probably the best posthumous Pac record.
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And the videos for RUSD were beautifully artistic projects as well... "Wonder If Heaven's Got A Ghetto" had him being dropped off in the desert and then the video became very surreal with that car he was riding in to join the other legends riding the bus, then he went deeper into some dreamworld where the numbers on the clock added up to "seven".. the video was biulding his "alive" legend, with him hiding out at a Muslim hospice and then hiding out in the country. "Do 4 Love" was a cartoon, I wonder if ya'll remember it, it was very colorful, they put full effort into the project and it came out dope.
....btw, I agree with the comments made above by Sneaker Pimp about "Still I Rise", and although I've never heard the origional "Black Jesus" I doubt it could beat the version on "Still I Rise".
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There is a reason those songs are leftovers. The album is pretty weak.
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the title track is one of my fav pac songs of all time
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the title track is one of my fav pac songs of all time
Co-sign... that's one of Pac's most thoughful tracks.
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thanks for making this thread. I just bumped both albums tonight, good quality shit. although I got say Str8 Ballin is 100x better than Get Money.
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good album with some cassic tracks like when i get free, r u still dow, hellraisor etc
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....btw, I agree with the comments made above by Sneaker Pimp about "Still I Rise", and although I've never heard the origional "Black Jesus" I doubt it could beat the version on "Still I Rise".
It's pratically the same.
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And the videos for RUSD were beautifully artistic projects as well... "Wonder If Heaven's Got A Ghetto" had him being dropped off in the desert and then the video became very surreal with that car he was riding in to join the other legends riding the bus, then he went deeper into some dreamworld where the numbers on the clock added up to "seven".. the video was biulding his "alive" legend, with him hiding out at a Muslim hospice and then hiding out in the country. "Do 4 Love" was a cartoon, I wonder if ya'll remember it, it was very colorful, they put full effort into the project and it came out dope.
....btw, I agree with the comments made above by Sneaker Pimp about "Still I Rise", and although I've never heard the origional "Black Jesus" I doubt it could beat the version on "Still I Rise".
I forgot all about Do 4 Love. A Great song with a great video. If all of Pac's posthumous works wer elike this I would have no problem with them.
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Another thing, the Intro track Redemption was always one of my favorite intro tracks from an album.
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great album, a 4,5/5 for me. Best tracks in my eyes: R U Stil Down, Do 4 Love, Nothing to Lose, When I Get Free
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glad this album is appreciated by nearly all, love it myself...
"R U Still down" Is one of my faves,and I think "only fear of death" is one of his greatest tracks ever.
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man all pac albums have somn speciall
lol except the nu mixx shit that def row put out
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There is a reason those songs are leftovers. The album is pretty weak.
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You're opinion about 2Pac doesn't mean shit. You are the definition of a dickrider.
What can I say, I was really looking forward to this album. He was my favourite rapper at the time and I got this album the day it came out but sadly I was disapointed (I haven't actually listened to it in atleast a year come to think of it). Like most other double discs it's just too long and has too much filler. It should have been a single disc.
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One thing i'll never understand is how is possible for the fans of a rapper ("He was my favourite rapper at the time") to prefeer a single album to a double! lol, if you want a single just choose 15 tracks and make a CDR copy for yourself. I'll never prefeer a single album to a double one.
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i really enjoyed RUSD
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One thing i'll never understand is how is possible for the fans of a rapper ("He was my favourite rapper at the time") to prefeer a single album to a double! lol, if you want a single just choose 15 tracks and make a CDR copy for yourself. I'll never prefeer a single album to a double one.
Most people prefer a single disc rather than a double.
I couldn't make a one disc CD, I didn't have a computer back then.
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There is a reason those songs are leftovers. The album is pretty weak.
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You're opinion about 2Pac doesn't mean shit. You are the definition of a dickrider.
What can I say, I was really looking forward to this album. He was my favourite rapper at the time and I got this album the day it came out but sadly I was disapointed (I haven't actually listened to it in atleast a year come to think of it). Like most other double discs it's just too long and has too much filler. It should have been a single disc.
What? U cant be fuckin serious.
My opinion on Pac holds way more weight then yours does, because im about 10,000 times more knowledgable about him and his music then you ever will be, and I reckon most of this board will agree with me on that. Remember that next time u run your mouth.
Me a Tupac dickrider?? You say that like its a bad thing, hahahaha. At least I dickride an artist that actually had talent, as opposed to the millions of 50 cent and Nelly dickriders in the world.
The fact this is a double album is irrelevent, because it was released after his death and wasnt meant to be an album that took his career to the next level or improve from the previous album. It was a gift of more music for his fans to enjoy. If this were an album he released while he was alive you may have a point, but it wasnt, so........
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"Do 4 Love", "Hellrazor", & "R U Still Down" are Pac tracks I always bump from time to time...this album, Still I Rise, All Eyez On Me, & 7 Day Theory are tied as my favorite Pac albums...
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What? U cant be fuckin serious.
Yes I am.
My opinion on Pac holds way more weight then yours does, because im about 10,000 times more knowledgable about him.
You're more knowledgable about him, I'll give you that. I'm sure you have every song, seen all his videos, know where all his tatoos are, know what his ball looks like, etc. But you opinion regarding him is so clouded because of your obvious somewhat homosexual love for him it just can't be taken seriously.
One the other hand, I have all his albums and have listened to him a lot so when you factor in that with my superior knowledge of hip-hop overall and that fact that I'm not in love with him I'd say that it's a safe bet that...
My Opinion > Your Opinion
Me a Tupac dickrider?? You say that like its a bad thing, hahahaha. At least I dickride an artist that actually had talent, as opposed to the millions of 50 cent and Nelly dickriders in the world
hahahahahahahaha
I can't believe you actually said that. Next time hit that "Preview" button and read your post first.
The fact this is a double album is irrelevent, because it was released after his death and wasnt meant to be an album that took his career to the next level or improve from the previous album.
If that's the way you look at it, fine. I'm comparing and treating it like a real album when I rate it or comment on it. I do not however consider anything after The Don Kiluminati: The 7 Day Theory when discussing his place in history, comparing discographies, etc. Meaning I don't count these sub-par albums and songs against him.
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What? U cant be fuckin serious.
Yes I am.
My opinion on Pac holds way more weight then yours does, because im about 10,000 times more knowledgable about him.
You're more knowledgable about him, I'll give you that. I'm sure you have every song, seen all his videos, know where all his tatoos are, know what his ball looks like, etc. But you opinion regarding him is so clouded because of your obvious somewhat homosexual love for him it just can't be taken seriously.
One the other hand, I have all his albums and have listened to him a lot so when you factor in that with my superior knowledge of hip-hop overall and that fact that I'm not in love with him I'd say that it's a safe bet that...
My Opinion > Your Opinion
Me a Tupac dickrider?? You say that like its a bad thing, hahahaha. At least I dickride an artist that actually had talent, as opposed to the millions of 50 cent and Nelly dickriders in the world
hahahahahahahaha
I can't believe you actually said that. Next time hit that "Preview" button and read your post first.
The fact this is a double album is irrelevent, because it was released after his death and wasnt meant to be an album that took his career to the next level or improve from the previous album.
If that's the way you look at it, fine. I'm comparing and treating it like a real album when I rate it or comment on it. I do not however consider anything after The Don Kiluminati: The 7 Day Theory when discussing his place in history, comparing discographies, etc. Meaning I don't count these sub-par albums and songs against him.
Seriously man, get off your high horse.
Typical hip hop head who thinks he's Mr. Righteous and superior to everyone else. I aint hearin it.
And honestly, I could give two flying fucks what cats over the net think about my opinion.
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Me a Tupac dickrider?? You say that like its a bad thing, hahahaha. At least I dickride an artist that actually had talent, as opposed to the millions of 50 cent and Nelly dickriders in the world.
This is going in my sig.
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^^^good.
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^^^good.
All dickriders a major fags, wether the artists you are dickriding has talent or not, that doesn't matter. I put it there so everyone can laugh at you.
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^^^good.
All dickriders a major fags, wether the artists you are dickriding has talent or not, that doesn't matter. I put it there so everyone can laugh at you.
1. Guess you didnt read the post above, I could give a fuck what some herbs like you over the net think of me or my opinions. So, put a lid on it.
2. I get enough pussy to be confident about my sexuality, and someone calling another person a fag over the net because they really like an artist is probably a fag themselves.....and they calling someone else a fag to make themselves feel better.
So, put it in your sig. Hell, take a picture and show the entire fuckin world, and it still wont mean shit. So basically, you can go fuck yourself. All this shit talkin over the interent dont mean a thing.
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hahahahaha @ hellrazor getting all e-motional.
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If somebody else doesn't have the same opinion as you, there's no need to cry about it
Who gives fuck about whose opinion is better, they're just OPINIONS - everyones entitled to their own
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this album is ok imo...Hellrazor is one of my all time favourite 2Pac tracks...
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If somebody else doesn't have the same opinion as you, there's no need to cry about it
Who gives fuck about whose opinion is better, they're just OPINIONS - everyones entitled to their own
I know there are all opinion but the clown in this thread can't back up his opinion, because I have good ears there is no way R U Still Down had fillers, AEOM has fillers get your fact straight.
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Yeh true
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If somebody else doesn't have the same opinion as you, there's no need to cry about it
Who gives fuck about whose opinion is better, they're just OPINIONS - everyones entitled to their own
For real.
Helllrazor is entitled to his opinion like everyone else. I think y'all took the dickrider thing a little too literal too, but whatever.
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the last 2pac album that I bought....
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If somebody else doesn't have the same opinion as you, there's no need to cry about it
Who gives fuck about whose opinion is better, they're just OPINIONS - everyones entitled to their own
I know there are all opinion but the clown in this thread can't back up his opinion, because I have good ears there is no way R U Still Down had fillers, AEOM has fillers get your fact straight.
Both albums have filler, im like one of the biggest Pac fans on here and even I will admit that no double album is flawless. Actually, no album period is flawless.
With that said, AEOM is pretty much as consistant of a double cd you will find. Some fillers on the second disc, but overall still a classic album. RUSD probably doesnt have any more filler than AEOM does, but the best songs on Eyez are probably better than the best songs on RUSD. You have to remember, RUSD featured songs that were recorded in 92'-94'....Pac was great during this time, but not at his peak yet. MATW was his first classic, and AEOM is where he really started getting to his peak, and Makaveli IS his peak.
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RUSD probably doesnt have any more filler than AEOM does, but the best songs on Eyez are probably better than the best songs on RUSD.
Real spit...
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RUSD, is one of the hardest albums pa made and one of the best.
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All this shit talkin over the interent dont mean a thing.
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I think y'all took the dickrider thing a little too literal too, but whatever.
I don't mind dickriders as long as they're female human beings and good looking :)
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i love that album, and like it more then strictly 4
i agree ;D
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that album is real..some classic cutz, love the title song...cuz producers on it are actually the ones that work with pac...when i just think of loyal 2 tha game i wanna vomit
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All this shit talkin over the interent dont mean a thing.
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Fuck outta here.
id be banned long before I ever took the advice to delete my own account from a homo like you.