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Title: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on May 25, 2005, 10:46:17 AM
First of all,let me say this,I AM NOT A DRE HATER.I just cant understand how everyone puts their hope into these 2 labels.How many classic albums have these 2 labels released???1???lmao,that isnt too good for a label that is controlled by Dre.Exactly,how many of yall are man enough to admit that???Only 1 classic album,like I said,that is really pathetic for a label that is controlled by Dre.& Em,I dont think I even need to explain.He is probably the worst dude you can get to executive produce your album.
Devil's Night - garbage
Get Rich Or Die Tryin - the only good album he had any influence on
Cheers - garbage
D12 World - lol
The Massacre - lmao!!!
The only argument I can see people use is that both labels make classic songs,well as if other rappers dont do that ::) & no,making huge money isnt anything big when you're on Interscope & everyone knows what kind of music dominates in the state of hip hop right now.
Now here's the full discography of the 2 labels,Shady/Aftermath groupies dont even try to say its tight cause you know its not (Oh yeah,dont bring up Dre's career before he was on Aftermath,cause it has nothing to do wit this thread).

Albums:
The Massacre (Aftermath / Shady Records)
The Documentary (Aftermath / G-Unit)
Encore (Aftermath)
D12 World (Shady Records)
Cheers (Shady Records)
Get Rich Or Die Tryin (Aftermath / Shady Records)
Truthfully Speaking (Aftermath)
The Eminem Show (Aftermath)
Devil's Night (Shady Records)
Marshall Mathers LP (Aftermath)
2001 (Aftermath)
Slim Shady LP (Aftermath)

Compilations:
More 8Mile Soundtrack
8Mile Soundtrack
Shady / Aftermath Sampler
The Wash Soundtrack
The Firm - The Album
Dr. Dre Presents the Aftermath

Wow,that list is just so corny :o
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on May 25, 2005, 10:49:42 AM
This thread is for the Shady/Aftermath groupies.Especially the Aftermath ones.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Throwback on May 25, 2005, 10:50:18 AM
the 1st three Eminem albums were pretty dope IMO. but i agree the label is wack.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 10:55:12 AM
I could care less about Shady or G-Unit. As far as Afermath is concrned, Dre has been on top with that ever since he signed Eminem...whether u like them or not. I know all you people who hate Eminem will hate me for sayinn' this... but TMMLP as well as Chronic 2001 were both classics. 2001 will have more respect in the Hip Hop world, but TMMLP had a much bigger impact on the world.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: SGV on May 25, 2005, 10:55:55 AM
Thank God I didn't make this.

But yea man, you ain't lying.

Albums:
50 Cent - The Massacre (Aftermath / Shady Records) <---- Garbage
The Game - The Documentary (Aftermath / G-Unit) <---- Aight
Eminem - Encore (Aftermath) <---- Garbage
D12 World (Shady Records) <---- Garbage
Cheers (Shady Records) <---- Garbage
Get Rich Or Die Tryin (Aftermath / Shady Records) <---- Aight
Truthfully Speaking (Aftermath) <---- Garbage
The Eminem Show (Aftermath) <---- Garbage
Devil's Night (Shady Records) <---- Garbage
Marshall Mathers LP (Aftermath) <---- Aight
2001 (Aftermath) <---- Dope
Slim Shady LP (Aftermath <---- Dope

Pretty pathetic.

Roc-A-Fella's dynasty >>>>>> Shady/Aftermath.

Jigger and Beans alone kill them
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: mauzip on May 25, 2005, 10:56:21 AM
50 Cent - The Massacre (Aftermath / Shady Records)
 :puke:

The Game - The Documentary (Aftermath / G-Unit)
Good album, but it got old real quick...

Eminem - Encore (Aftermath)
 :puke: :puke:

D12 World (Shady Records)
 :puke:

Cheers (Shady Records)
3rd best Aftermath album IMO...

Get Rich Or Die Tryin (Aftermath / Shady Records)
Great beats, average rapper.

Truthfully Speaking (Aftermath)
this album is so so...

The Eminem Show (Aftermath)
 :puke:

Devil's Night (Shady Records)
 :puke:  I still can't believe I actually bought this album back in the day :-X

Marshall Mathers LP (Aftermath)
Definately a good album, not as good as The Slim Shady LP though.

2001 (Aftermath)
I think I can call this a classic.

Slim Shady LP (Aftermath)
After 2001 the best Aftermath album. Maybe I'll call it a classic in a few years, who knows... it can't touch albums like Doggystyle and E. 1999 Eternal though, so I probably won't call it a classic in a few years :P

More 8Mile Soundtrack
Wacky.

8Mile Soundtrack
Wacky.

Shady / Aftermath Sampler
eh? it's a sampler, lol

The Wash Soundtrack
Good soundtrack, nothing more and nothing less than that

The Firm - The Album
Good album

Dr. Dre Presents the Aftermath
Good album. Great for todays standards, haha.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: mauzip on May 25, 2005, 11:01:41 AM
http://forum.westcoastrydaz.com/showthread.php?p=920277#post920277

hey!
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Don Seer on May 25, 2005, 11:03:18 AM

Aftermath, Shady, G-Unit etc are all like "vanity plates".. they're all reallty just interscope.. Jimmy calls the shots
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on May 25, 2005, 11:05:34 AM
Thank God I didn't make this.
??? Why???
http://forum.westcoastrydaz.com/showthread.php?p=920277#post920277

hey!
Everytime I make a thread on 1 forum,I always post it on the other so I know what members on both forums think about a certain topic.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 11:07:00 AM
50 Cent - The Massacre (Aftermath / Shady Records)
 :puke:

The Game - The Documentary (Aftermath / G-Unit)
Good album, but it got old real quick...

Eminem - Encore (Aftermath)
 :puke: :puke:

D12 World (Shady Records)
 :puke:

Cheers (Shady Records)
3rd best Aftermath album IMO...

Get Rich Or Die Tryin (Aftermath / Shady Records)
Great beats, average rapper.

Truthfully Speaking (Aftermath)
this album is so so...

The Eminem Show (Aftermath)
 :puke:

Devil's Night (Shady Records)
 :puke:  I still can't believe I actually bought this album back in the day :-X

Marshall Mathers LP (Aftermath)
Definately a good album, not as good as The Slim Shady LP though.

2001 (Aftermath)
I think I can call this a classic.

Slim Shady LP (Aftermath)
After 2001 the best Aftermath album. Maybe I'll call it a classic in a few years, who knows... it can't touch albums like Doggystyle and E. 1999 Eternal though, so I probably won't call it a classic in a few years :P

More 8Mile Soundtrack
Wacky.

8Mile Soundtrack
Wacky.

Shady / Aftermath Sampler
eh? it's a sampler, lol

The Wash Soundtrack
Good soundtrack, nothing more and nothing less than that

The Firm - The Album
Good album

Dr. Dre Presents the Aftermath
Good album. Great for todays standards, haha.

How can u call The Firm & Dr. Dre presents The Aftermath good albums and expect ppeople to take ur opinion seriously ?
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: No Compute on May 25, 2005, 11:08:24 AM
Slim Shady LP
2001
Marshall Mathers LP
Devils Night
Cheers

All dope albums. I don't really see the need of having a thread were you just cry about how bad the releases are.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 11:11:46 AM
Thank God I didn't make this.
??? Why???
http://forum.westcoastrydaz.com/showthread.php?p=920277#post920277

hey!
Everytime I make a thread on 1 forum,I always post it on the other so I know what members on both forums think about a certain topic.

and it so happens that this and that forum are full of Pac groupies who hate Eminem, lol
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: SGV on May 25, 2005, 11:12:12 AM
I'm not allowed to talk bad about rappers, people's feelings get hurt.  :'(
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on May 25, 2005, 11:14:18 AM
Slim Shady LP
2001
Marshall Mathers LP
Devils Night
Cheers

All dope albums. I don't really see the need of having a thread were you just cry about how bad the releases are.
The last 2 albums you listed were garbage,Cheers is only good for a small amount of time,after that you suddenly realize how crappy that cd was.& like I said,this is for the Shady/Aftermath groupies who act like thses are the 2 best labels you could be signed to.If I got your feelings hurt wit this thread Im so sorry ::)
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: mauzip on May 25, 2005, 11:17:08 AM

How can u call The Firm & Dr. Dre presents The Aftermath good albums and expect ppeople to take ur opinion seriously ?

 ::)
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Sir Petey on May 25, 2005, 11:17:28 AM
the situation with aftermath is the same thing as with the source in my opinion....weve been preprogrammed to buy there shit...we all grew up on the shit dre put out ...most of us for our whole life dre was like the soundtrack for our adolecent years so we tend to follow
dre's work even still when he only drops 2 to 4 tracks on a project....the reason I relate this to the source magazine  is because as a kid this was like the MAIN source of info. for hip hop news before there was a hip hop internet scene...I cant front Ive purchased every issue of the source since 1993 issue with eazy e on the cover, I havent missed ONE issue even though I havent enjoyed ONE issue since 1999 possibly....its like I just cant help myself.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: No Compute on May 25, 2005, 11:20:28 AM
Slim Shady LP
2001
Marshall Mathers LP
Devils Night
Cheers

All dope albums. I don't really see the need of having a thread were you just cry about how bad the releases are.
The last 2 albums you listed were garbage,Cheers is only good for a small amount of time,after that you suddenly realize how crappy that cd was.& like I said,this is for the Shady/Aftermath groupies who act like thses are the 2 best labels you could be signed to.If I got your feelings hurt wit this thread Im so sorry ::)

What does it matter if people act like these are 2 of the best labels, it doesn't affect your life so why get so upset about it.

I guess everyone moaning won't be buying Detox if it ever comes out?
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: SGV on May 25, 2005, 11:21:24 AM
weve been preprogrammed to buy there shit

100%

Regardless what Dre does, every beat is "Amazing" to some of these kids. Even the weakest beat to them is "Classic." Mindless drones!!!
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Don Seer on May 25, 2005, 11:21:58 AM
people seem to be  blaming Dre

how many of these projects did he executive produce? not all..

actually i think its the only albums that people _arent_ slagging off he was directly involved in..



break it down by labels and sub labels.. PROPERLY..



Cheers is not and Aftermath album, it had 4 Dre produced tracks.. thats all..
it DOES NOT even have the Aftermath logo anywhere on it!!!

its straight Shady/Interscope


Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on May 25, 2005, 11:23:43 AM
Slim Shady LP
2001
Marshall Mathers LP
Devils Night
Cheers

All dope albums. I don't really see the need of having a thread were you just cry about how bad the releases are.
The last 2 albums you listed were garbage,Cheers is only good for a small amount of time,after that you suddenly realize how crappy that cd was.& like I said,this is for the Shady/Aftermath groupies who act like thses are the 2 best labels you could be signed to.If I got your feelings hurt wit this thread Im so sorry ::)

What does it matter if people act like these are 2 of the best labels, it doesn't affect your life so why get so upset about it.

I guess everyone moaning won't be buying Detox if it ever comes out?
Im not upset,Im just clearly stating facts that everybody else just doesnt seem to notice.Like I said,I aint no Dre hater so buying Detox or any other good Shady/Aftermath release will not be a problem.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on May 25, 2005, 11:25:52 AM
people seem to be  blaming Dre

how many of these projects did he executive produce? not all..

actually i think its the only albums that people _arent_ slagging off he was directly involved in..



break it down by labels and sub labels.. PROPERLY..



Cheers is not and Aftermath album, it had 4 Dre produced tracks.. thats all..
it DOES NOT even have the Aftermath logo anywhere on it!!!

its straight Shady/Interscope



What does the title thread say???Aftermath & Shady Records.LMAO,my karma count has already been dropped by 2 :laugh:
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Juronimo on May 25, 2005, 11:30:47 AM
I agree with the thread starter. Aside from the Chronic 2001, SSLP, and MMLP, everything else they've released has been subpar. Game's album was aight, but it had no replay value. Everything else I've heard from them has sucked.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Don Seer on May 25, 2005, 11:40:16 AM
^^  'they'? shady or aftermath? ^^

a discussion of shady doesnt really belong in this section.


its obvious from the start of this thread that the guy who posted this just wanted to create trouble.


everything Dre was heavily involved in AFTER he shook up Aftermath has done well... if you look at "platinum" as success.. then everything on aftermath.. EVEN the early stuff did well.. even the wack afternmath comp went double plat

regardless of what you like or don't

aftermath / shady / g-unit sales >> your favourite rappers

this is why they have, and will continue to have major backing


everything else shady/g-unit only releases aren't his concern and dont belong in the west coast section where you know they are gonna get hated on



Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Ðøšïå on May 25, 2005, 11:51:07 AM
they are directing this music towards the mainstream (teenage kids) to make maximum profit. what the fuck do you expect?
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on May 25, 2005, 11:51:42 AM
^^  'they'? shady or aftermath? ^^

a discussion of shady doesnt really belong in this section.


its obvious from the start of this thread that the guy who posted this just wanted to create trouble.


everything Dre was heavily involved in AFTER he shook up Aftermath has done well... if you look at "platinum" as success.. then everything on aftermath.. EVEN the early stuff did well.. even the wack afternmath comp went double plat

regardless of what you like or don't

aftermath / shady / g-unit sales >> your favourite rappers

this is why they have, and will continue to have major backing


everything else shady/g-unit only releases aren't his concern and dont belong in the west coast section where you know they are gonna get hated on




Aftermath & Shady are both releated to each other,yes,Shady isnt a wetscoast label,but I didnt feel like making 2 seperate threads for this.I mean,do you really see any sense in it???Secondly,no I aint trying to create trouble,I just see too many Aftermath cheerleaders & every music artist keeps on defying these 2 labels as the dream teams,basically the best 2 labels you can ever be signed to & so on.I am not a hater of neither labels,I am only stating facts,please keep that in mind.Everyone wit a major backing will sell,regardless of the music you're making,all you need is the right promotion.& yes,Aftermath,Shady & G-Unit sell way more than my favorite rappers.I already stated that in my first post,whats your point???& like I said,I dont feel like making 2 different threads which would be basically the same.Move this to the Outbound section,I really dont care.Also,I did not state anything about G-Unit Records,why did you bring them up???
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: West Coast Veteran on May 25, 2005, 12:21:50 PM
The Firm, 2001, The Documentary and the first two Eminem releases were the only albums I've bought from the whole umbrella. Get Rich Or Die Tryin' was worth a download, the rest from the umbrella (Aftermath, Shady, G-Unit) have been asshole stinky.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: The King on May 25, 2005, 12:24:36 PM
You should really throw in G-Unit records. Its all the same really. Cheers was not garbage by a long shot. Get rich or Die trying was a classic in many ppls eyes. Marshal Mathers LP was a classic IMO same with 2001. The shady/aftermath/g-unit labels put out the most consistant selling albums of probably any label, whens the last time an album didn't go plat?
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 25, 2005, 12:37:20 PM
^^ only albums that didnt sell a mill plus r truth hurts' and the wash soundtrack
truth hurts' had it reasons though...
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Juronimo on May 25, 2005, 12:40:51 PM

aftermath / shady / g-unit sales >> your favourite rappers


What the hell does sales have to do with it?

Sales don't mean jack shit to me. All that matters to me is if I feel it or not, if it moves me.

Sorry, but with the exception of Chronic 2001, SSLP and MMLP, nothing else they've done moves me whatsoever. MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice sold millions of records, does that make their music good?

I love it when people use record sales in an argument about quality of music.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Don Seer on May 25, 2005, 12:42:09 PM

i never said sales represented quality.

thats why i said "this is why they have, and will continue to have major backing"


they are a cash cow.. and until they stop being so won't change
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 12:53:05 PM
I'll be completly honest, I'm an Aftermath fan and I believe they have been on top since '99. But Imma be real as far is critiqing there releases:



Dr. Dre presents...The Aftermath: Had a few good songs, but all in all was very dissapointing. (2/5)

The Firm: The Album: Had a few great songs, but had more wack ones. (2/5)

The Slim Shady LP: This was a very dope album, and a welcome introduction to Eminem. (4.5/5)

Chronic 2001: Extraordinary. This is album is a fuckin' classic. (5/5)

The Marshall Mathers LP: ^^^^^^ (5/5)

The Wash Soundtrack: Dope Soundtrack. (3.5/5)

Truthfully Speaking: A dope album that was heavilly overlooked. (3.5/5)

The Eminem Show: A good album, but a big step down from his previous. (3/5)

Get Rich Or Die Tryin': A very good debut... with alot of great songs, but had a few tracks that were waay too commercially wack. (3.5/5)

ENCORE: Had a few good songs, but Em's experimentation with this LP went to the wack side. (1.5/5)

The Documentary: Dope Album. Great debut. Has it's flaws...but for a begginer, it's hot. (4/5)

The Massacre: A couple good songs, but most of it was boring garbage. (1/5)




As for Shady/G-Unit... only the 8-Mile Soundtrack, Devil's Night, and Str8 Outta Cashville are listenable. The rest is either subpar or wack. I could care less about them, anyway.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: mauzip on May 25, 2005, 01:02:59 PM
How can u call The Firm & Dr. Dre presents The Aftermath good albums and expect ppeople to take ur opinion seriously ?

ENCORE: Had a few good songs, but Em's experimentation with this LP went to the wack side. (1.5/5)

The Massacre: A couple good songs, but most of it was boring garbage. (1/5)


My question for you:

How do you expect people to take your opinion seriously if you rate Encore higher than The Massacre?

LOL!
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 01:07:37 PM
How can u call The Firm & Dr. Dre presents The Aftermath good albums and expect ppeople to take ur opinion seriously ?

ENCORE: Had a few good songs, but Em's experimentation with this LP went to the wack side. (1.5/5)

The Massacre: A couple good songs, but most of it was boring garbage. (1/5)


My question for you:

How do you expect people to take your opinion seriously if you rate Encore higher than The Massacre?

LOL!

Simple. Both were wack albums, both had alot of singin', both had average production, BUT ! Eminem still shits on 50 as an mc.

Any more questons ?
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 25, 2005, 01:09:18 PM
aftermath compilation (2.5/5) had some nice cuts and some weird shit

the firm (3/5) had classic cuts and had wack cuts, remember there was like 5 labels involved in this project not only the math

SSLP (4/5) grat debut packed with crazy lines and punch lines.. a coupel of nice cocepts of songs.. showed the battling side of em

dre 2001 (5/5) 1 word CLASSIC

MMLP (4.5) although i like SSLP more... this album showed another side of eminem.. i call that lyrical growth

the was soundtrack (2.5/5) aight soundtrack had nice cuts nuthin special.. hence only going gold

eminem show (5/5) best eminem work IMO eminem produced it and wrote it..... showed all sides of em's lyrical ability

truth hurts (3.5) production is flawless... truth aint that gr8 as singer though.. hurt her sales alot the sample trial and the R kelly shit

get rich or die trying (4.5) this album is SOLID, 50's lyrics.. the production .. the hooks.. almost flawless too bad had trax such as like my style and poor lil rich

ENCORE (3/5) carbon copy of eminem show.. too bad eminem released a project that basically didnt show any growth...

the documentary (4.9/5) i want to give it a 5.. too bad game did the name dropping thing alot, other than that its flawless... could be played from track 1-18

the massacre (4/5) SOLID album.. 50 didnt lyrically fall off lyrically.. actually he spit better than grodt but he kept talking about the same shit.... production had some slips... too much commercial scott storch shit.. 50 had his reasons dre was too busy producing game
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Capo Di Tutti I Capi on May 25, 2005, 01:10:52 PM
The Marshall Mathers LP must be one of the most overrated albums ever
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 25, 2005, 01:13:25 PM
The Marshall Mathers LP must be one of the most overrated albums ever
explain...
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: westkoastanostra on May 25, 2005, 01:15:22 PM
aftermath compilation (2.5/5) had some nice cuts and some weird shit

the firm (3/5) had classic cuts and had wack cuts, remember there was like 5 labels involved in this project not only the math

SSLP (4/5) grat debut packed with crazy lines and punch lines.. a coupel of nice cocepts of songs.. showed the battling side of em

dre 2001 (5/5) 1 word CLASSIC

MMLP (4.5) although i like SSLP more... this album showed another side of eminem.. i call that lyrical growth

the was soundtrack (2.5/5) aight soundtrack had nice cuts nuthin special.. hence only going gold

eminem show (5/5) best eminem work IMO eminem produced it and wrote it..... showed all sides of em's lyrical ability

truth hurts (3.5) production is flawless... truth aint that gr8 as singer though.. hurt her sales alot the sample trial and the R kelly shit

get rich or die trying (4.5) this album is SOLID, 50's lyrics.. the production .. the hooks.. almost flawless too bad had trax such as like my style and poor lil rich

ENCORE (3/5) carbon copy of eminem show.. too bad eminem released a project that basically didnt show any growth...

the documentary (4.9/5) i want to give it a 5.. too bad game did the name dropping thing alot, other than that its flawless... could be played from track 1-18

the massacre (4/5) SOLID album.. 50 didnt lyrically fall off lyrically.. actually he spit better than grodt but he kept talking about the same shit.... production had some slips... too much commercial scott storch shit.. 50 had his reasons dre was too busy producing game

i definetely agree with u! here's a prop
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 25, 2005, 01:23:36 PM
Roc-A-Fella's dynasty >>>>>> Shady/Aftermath.

Jigger and Beans alone kill them

yup
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Lil Jay on May 25, 2005, 01:33:34 PM
2001
Marshall Mathers LP
Slim Shady LP
Truthfully Speaking
Documentary

were all dope releases imo so I'm happy with what they put out
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 01:38:35 PM
The Marshall Mathers LP must be one of the most overrated albums ever

Oh yeah ? How so ?
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 01:42:15 PM
Roc-A-Fella's dynasty >>>>>> Shady/Aftermath.

Jigger and Beans alone kill them

yup

How is Roc-a-Fella's dynasty gonna kill them ? Em killed Jigga on his own song, and Beens ? LMAO please... none of them have an album remotely close to 2001. And if you wanna talk commercialism, Jay-Z has put out more pop singles than 50 Cent, lol
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Appetite on May 25, 2005, 01:42:26 PM
I consider them a dream team beacuse Dre, Em. and 50 are all superstars.

They might not have the greatest roster on THEIR labels, but check it out:

they're businessmen.  They own record labels, which is the biz of selling records.  Have they sold a lot of records? Yes.  If they can make D-12 go platinum.  In their eyes "job done."  I don't agree with a lot of the decisions they make, but you can't deny that their success.  I'd love to see them put out Pharoahe Monch though...and what about Young Zee?

When it's all said and done, you can't deny what they do...even if you don't like their shit.

And I'm not one of their "groupie fans"...just a listener.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Suga Foot on May 25, 2005, 01:50:10 PM
I'd like to argue opinions all day with everybody, but I don't have time.  
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 25, 2005, 02:03:34 PM
as for shady records
the yreleased
devils night (3.75/5) the album wasnt bad at all.... em was on some MMLP shit, dre laced em with some heat.......
cheers (4.5/5)... man this album is MAD slept on, they didnt choose the right singles.... they didnt promote it right, 2 or 3 production slips though
d12's world (2/5).... i liked some trax when it first came out.. now i only like american psycho 2 and thats it... album SUX.. em was trying too hard to put them out w/out him being involved.... worked out to be wack D-12 is D-12 dont try to throw em out
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: SGV on May 25, 2005, 02:54:10 PM

How is Roc-a-Fella's dynasty gonna kill them ? Em killed Jigga on his own song, and Beens ? LMAO please... none of them have an album remotely close to 2001. And if you wanna talk commercialism, Jay-Z has put out more pop singles than 50 Cent, lol
Let's not forget who wrote one of the most memorable songs on 2001. LOL.

The Truth, The Reason, The B.Coming >>>>>> Eminem's albums.

Diplomatic Immunity Disc 1 and 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> D-12's albums.

Jigger's weakest album >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any 50 album.

College Dropout >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Documentary.

Come Home With Me >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.

2001 is the only album Aftermath/Shady got that is sorta unmatchable. So in reality, all but one album from this so called "Aftermath/Shady Dynasty" is as good or better than a Roc's best shit.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 03:18:07 PM

How is Roc-a-Fella's dynasty gonna kill them ? Em killed Jigga on his own song, and Beens ? LMAO please... none of them have an album remotely close to 2001. And if you wanna talk commercialism, Jay-Z has put out more pop singles than 50 Cent, lol
Let's not forget who wrote one of the most memorable songs on 2001. LOL.

The Truth, The Reason, The B.Coming >>>>>> Eminem's albums.

Diplomatic Immunity Disc 1 and 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> D-12's albums.

Jigger's weakest album >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any 50 album.

College Dropout >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Documentary.

Come Home With Me >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers.

2001 is the only album Aftermath/Shady got that is sorta unmatchable. So in reality, all but one album from this so called "Aftermath/Shady Dynasty" is as good or better than a Roc's best shit.


2001, TSSLP, and TMMLP >>>>>>>>>> Rocafella. The only Rocafella album that stands up to them is Reasonable Doubt. The Documentary >>> College Dropout, and any other Roc release is not even worth mentionaing.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: SGV on May 25, 2005, 03:23:22 PM
^LOL. Alright buddy.

College Dropout had about 1 skippable track and still gets played. Documentary, well, I haven't played it since Feb.

Slim Shady LP (Good Introduction) <<<< The Truth (One of the dopest Introductions to an emcee)

Marshall Mathers LP (Poor follow up. Became a Whiney-Serious type, only to change) <<<< The Reason (Great follow up)
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 03:26:17 PM
^LOL. Alright buddy.

College Dropout had about 1 skippable track and still gets played. Documentary, well, I haven't played it since Feb.

Slim Shady LP (Good Introduction) <<<< The Truth (One of the dopest Introductions to an emcee)

Marshall Mathers LP (Poor follow up. Became a Whiney-Serious type, only to change) <<<< The Reason (Great follow up)

If you dont like thier music, that's fine. Everyone is entitled to thier preference. But logically, most fans, listeners, critics alike now how great TMMLP was. Period.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: SGV on May 25, 2005, 03:30:58 PM
Contraversy sells homeboy!

Period.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Ðøšïå on May 25, 2005, 03:31:24 PM

How is Roc-a-Fella's dynasty gonna kill them ? Em killed Jigga on his own song, and Beens ? LMAO please... none of them have an album remotely close to 2001. And if you wanna talk commercialism, Jay-Z has put out more pop singles than 50 Cent, lol
Let's not forget who wrote one of the most memorable songs on 2001. LOL.

The Truth, The Reason, The B.Coming >>>>>> Eminem's albums. gonna have to disagree
Diplomatic Immunity Disc 1 and 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> D-12's albums.  dipset? dont think so. devils night wasnt that bad d12world sucked. but dipset is worse.

Jigger's weakest album >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any 50 album. agree

College Dropout >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Documentary. disagree. college dropout is a nice album but i would rather listen to game.

Come Home With Me >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers. gonna disagree again. cheers was a very good album imo. and camron is the wackest of the wack.

2001 is the only album Aftermath/Shady got that is sorta unmatchable. So in reality, all but one album from this so called "Aftermath/Shady Dynasty" is as good or better than a Roc's best shit.


and there you have it.  8)
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Mr. Humonculous on May 25, 2005, 03:37:51 PM
The B.Coming wasn't even a roc a fella album Beanie left with Dame
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Elevz on May 25, 2005, 03:43:42 PM
Hmmm... Props to Masta T for opening my eyes - you sure have a damn good point there.

2.5/5 Aftermath
4.0/5 The Firm
2.8/5 The Wash
3.8/5 8 Mile OST
3.5/5 Slim Shady LP
4.8/5 2001
3.3/5 Marshall Mathers LP
2.7/5 Devil's Night
2.2/5 Eminem Show
3.3/5 Truthfully Speaking
4.0/5 Get Rich Or Die Tryin'
3.5/5 Cheers
1.4/5 D12 World
1.2/5 Encore
4.0/5 The Documentary
2.0/5 The Massacre

Damn, I just never realised they were that wack. Only ONE album might deserve the rating "CLASSIC" imo on a label controlled by Dr. Dre. Most of what they drop is just average. I rated only 4 of their albums 4.0 or higher - that's pretty damn sad. I know... The pop audience thinks differently, but I'm not "the pop audience". I expect some good music by Dr. Dre and his label, but where have the strictly Dre produced albums gone? The only album REALLY produced by Dre is the only really good album they have.

About that little question, whether we're going to be buying Detox... Damn right we will. Dre has dropped 2 solo albums so far and they're both classics. His 3rd and final solo will most likely become a classic too. Why should we doubt that? If only Eminem stays off the board & he keeps the wack sellout rappers away from the mic, he'll be allright. Then again, even 50 Cent and them can drop decent songs. Let's not hate too soon.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: SGV on May 25, 2005, 03:52:31 PM
The B.Coming wasn't even a roc a fella album Beanie left with Dame
It was released by Roc-A-Fella/Dame Dash.


The Truth, The Reason, The B.Coming >>>>>> Eminem's albums. gonna have to disagree
Diplomatic Immunity Disc 1 and 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> D-12's albums.  dipset? dont think so. devils night wasnt that bad d12world sucked. but dipset is worse.

Jigger's weakest album >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any 50 album. agree

College Dropout >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Documentary. disagree. college dropout is a nice album but i would rather listen to game.

Come Home With Me >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers. gonna disagree again. cheers was a very good album imo. and camron is the wackest of the wack.

2001 is the only album Aftermath/Shady got that is sorta unmatchable. So in reality, all but one album from this so called "Aftermath/Shady Dynasty" is as good or better than a Roc's best shit.


What's to disagree about with Beans? He STILL spits with hunger and NEVER makes a wack track on purpose.

"I Really Mean It," "Gangsta Music," "Bout It, Bout It 3," "Ground Zero," "I'm Ready," "My Love," "Purple Haze," "Built This City," Un Casa's Freestyle and "What I Do" are just ILL. D-12 World and Devils Night do not see it.

Kanye proved to be his own artist on this album. Game, well he proved he could listen to Dre and 50.

Whether Cam is the wackest of the wack is not the question, it's that Cam STILL made a hotter album. Shit! Purple Haze >>>> Cheers. It don't matter. Cheers was utter trash. Eminem production was BLAND. Obie's lyrics just weren't on point for what he was trying to prove. Whereas with Cam, dropped nothing but heat.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Sir Petey on May 25, 2005, 03:55:04 PM
Im not impressed with beans latest album...the truth was beans best album so far...
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 03:56:09 PM
Contraversy sells homeboy!

Period.

I'm not talkin' about sales. The mans got skills. His first two album are musically great. Nobody in the entire Roc family could do a song like 'Stan' or 'The Way I Am' or 'Still Dont Give A Fuck'...ect. All Jigga and most of the Roc rap about is money, hos, and bling bling... ::)
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: SGV on May 25, 2005, 03:57:38 PM
^That last comments leads me to believe you only know the Roc's radio catalogue. This convo is done.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 25, 2005, 03:58:53 PM
xplosives beat alone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roc-a-fella's catalouge.....

atleast aftermath's production is MOSTLY in house
roc-a-fella has just blaze and knaye and still buy beats from neptunes,timbo,swizz and aftermath producers
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 03:59:19 PM
The B.Coming wasn't even a roc a fella album Beanie left with Dame
It was released by Roc-A-Fella/Dame Dash.


The Truth, The Reason, The B.Coming >>>>>> Eminem's albums. gonna have to disagree
Diplomatic Immunity Disc 1 and 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> D-12's albums.  dipset? dont think so. devils night wasnt that bad d12world sucked. but dipset is worse.

Jigger's weakest album >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any 50 album. agree

College Dropout >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Documentary. disagree. college dropout is a nice album but i would rather listen to game.

Come Home With Me >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers. gonna disagree again. cheers was a very good album imo. and camron is the wackest of the wack.

2001 is the only album Aftermath/Shady got that is sorta unmatchable. So in reality, all but one album from this so called "Aftermath/Shady Dynasty" is as good or better than a Roc's best shit.


What's to disagree about with Beans? He STILL spits with hunger and NEVER makes a wack track on purpose.

"I Really Mean It," "Gangsta Music," "Bout It, Bout It 3," "Ground Zero," "I'm Ready," "My Love," "Purple Haze," "Built This City," Un Casa's Freestyle and "What I Do" are just ILL. D-12 World and Devils Night do not see it.

Kanye proved to be his own artist on this album. Game, well he proved he could listen to Dre and 50.

Whether Cam is the wackest of the wack is not the question, it's that Cam STILL made a hotter album. Shit! Purple Haze >>>> Cheers. It don't matter. Cheers was utter trash. Eminem production was BLAND. Obie's lyrics just weren't on point for what he was trying to prove. Whereas with Cam, dropped nothing but heat.

Cam drops nothing but heat ? LMAO !! Cam is one of gayest/wackest mc's in the industry.. get the fuck outta here..hahahaha...
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 04:01:59 PM
^That last comments leads me to believe you only know the Roc's radio catalogue. This convo is done.

I have all of Jay-Z's shit. I have College Dropout, and I've been a Jay-Z fan since he spit a verse on Big L's 'Lifestyles Of The Poor & Dangerous'... I'm just playing devil's advocate to someone who is obviously completely bias. And I'm still stating facts.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Suga Foot on May 25, 2005, 04:05:06 PM
When did everyone on Dubcc become music critics and where do I sign up?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: SGV on May 25, 2005, 04:06:40 PM
xplosives beat alone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roc-a-fella's catalouge.....

atleast aftermath's production is MOSTLY in house
roc-a-fella has just blaze and knaye and still buy beats from neptunes,timbo,swizz and aftermath producers

LOL @ THIS. This is THE worst "point" I've ever seen someone make. LOL.

2001 had a Lord Finesse beat. SSLP, MMLP had outside production. Hell, Game has Roc Producers on his album AND Timbo. hahaha. What a cock you are.


Cam drops nothing but heat ? LMAO !! Cam is one of gayest/wackest mc's in the industry.. get the fuck outta here..hahahaha...

"I'm a Business man, I ain't trying to be Lyrical."

When Cam raps non-sense, he gets knocked. Eminem does it "Oh that wacky Marshall! What will he think of next."

Sorry kiddo. Confessions of Fire, SDE, Come Home With Me and Purple Haze are VERY solid albums.


I have all of Jay-Z's shit. I have College Dropout, and I've been a Jay-Z fan since he spit a verse on Big L's 'Lifestyles Of The Poor & Dangerous'... I'm just playing devil's advocate to someone who is obviously completely bias. And I'm still stating facts.

Ok. You have all of Jigger's albums and Kanyes album. What about Beans' albums? Bleeks? Cam's? Diplomats? Santana? Young Gunz? etc. You made a strong statement, you must have all their albums to know that.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 04:20:16 PM
xplosives beat alone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roc-a-fella's catalouge.....

atleast aftermath's production is MOSTLY in house
roc-a-fella has just blaze and knaye and still buy beats from neptunes,timbo,swizz and aftermath producers

LOL @ THIS. This is THE worst "point" I've ever seen someone make. LOL.

2001 had a Lord Finesse beat. SSLP, MMLP had outside production. Hell, Game has Roc Producers on his album AND Timbo. hahaha. What a cock you are.


Cam drops nothing but heat ? LMAO !! Cam is one of gayest/wackest mc's in the industry.. get the fuck outta here..hahahaha...

"I'm a Business man, I ain't trying to be Lyrical."

When Cam raps non-sense, he gets knocked. Eminem does it "Oh that wacky Marshall! What will he think of next."

Sorry kiddo. Confessions of Fire, SDE, Come Home With Me and Purple Haze are VERY solid albums.


I have all of Jay-Z's shit. I have College Dropout, and I've been a Jay-Z fan since he spit a verse on Big L's 'Lifestyles Of The Poor & Dangerous'... I'm just playing devil's advocate to someone who is obviously completely bias. And I'm still stating facts.

Ok. You have all of Jigger's albums and Kanyes album. What about Beans' albums? Bleeks? Cam's? Diplomats? Santana? Young Gunz? etc. You made a strong statement, you must have all their albums to know that.

I usually listen to someone first before I buy thier album. I had no interest in spending money for Bleek, Cam, or Diplomats. I do enjoy Santana and Young Guns, but I admit... I dont own thier albums at this time. But I have listened to all of them to know who's better and who isn't.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 25, 2005, 04:22:01 PM
xplosives beat alone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roc-a-fella's catalouge.....

atleast aftermath's production is MOSTLY in house
roc-a-fella has just blaze and knaye and still buy beats from neptunes,timbo,swizz and aftermath producers

LOL @ THIS. This is THE worst "point" I've ever seen someone make. LOL.

2001 had a Lord Finesse beat. SSLP, MMLP had outside production. Hell, Game has Roc Producers on his album AND Timbo. hahaha. What a cock you are.


Cam drops nothing but heat ? LMAO !! Cam is one of gayest/wackest mc's in the industry.. get the fuck outta here..hahahaha...

"I'm a Business man, I ain't trying to be Lyrical."

When Cam raps non-sense, he gets knocked. Eminem does it "Oh that wacky Marshall! What will he think of next."

Sorry kiddo. Confessions of Fire, SDE, Come Home With Me and Purple Haze are VERY solid albums.


I have all of Jay-Z's shit. I have College Dropout, and I've been a Jay-Z fan since he spit a verse on Big L's 'Lifestyles Of The Poor & Dangerous'... I'm just playing devil's advocate to someone who is obviously completely bias. And I'm still stating facts.

Ok. You have all of Jigger's albums and Kanyes album. What about Beans' albums? Bleeks? Cam's? Diplomats? Santana? Young Gunz? etc. You made a strong statement, you must have all their albums to know that.
i expected that u dont know how to read.. thats why i made sure to type MOSTLY in caps...but what can i say.. ignorance is ignorance
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Rebel on May 25, 2005, 04:23:50 PM
xplosives beat alone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roc-a-fella's catalouge.....

atleast aftermath's production is MOSTLY in house
roc-a-fella has just blaze and knaye and still buy beats from neptunes,timbo,swizz and aftermath producers

LOL @ THIS. This is THE worst "point" I've ever seen someone make. LOL.

2001 had a Lord Finesse beat. SSLP, MMLP had outside production. Hell, Game has Roc Producers on his album AND Timbo. hahaha. What a cock you are.


Cam drops nothing but heat ? LMAO !! Cam is one of gayest/wackest mc's in the industry.. get the fuck outta here..hahahaha...

"I'm a Business man, I ain't trying to be Lyrical."

When Cam raps non-sense, he gets knocked. Eminem does it "Oh that wacky Marshall! What will he think of next."

Sorry kiddo. Confessions of Fire, SDE, Come Home With Me and Purple Haze are VERY solid albums.


I have all of Jay-Z's shit. I have College Dropout, and I've been a Jay-Z fan since he spit a verse on Big L's 'Lifestyles Of The Poor & Dangerous'... I'm just playing devil's advocate to someone who is obviously completely bias. And I'm still stating facts.

Ok. You have all of Jigger's albums and Kanyes album. What about Beans' albums? Bleeks? Cam's? Diplomats? Santana? Young Gunz? etc. You made a strong statement, you must have all their albums to know that.
i expected that u dont know how to read.. thats why i made sure to type MOSTLY in caps...but what can i say.. ignorance is ignorance

lol... dont even waist your time with this dude. He thinks Cam drops nothing but heat, lol... what a joke  ::)
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: SGV on May 25, 2005, 04:24:05 PM
Listened once? A numerous times?


i expected that u dont know how to read.. thats why i made sure to type MOSTLY in caps...but what can i say.. ignorance is ignorance

LOL. And Roc is MOSTLY in house production too. So yea, I guess ignorance really is ignorance.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: LazyLatino on May 25, 2005, 04:24:53 PM
weve been preprogrammed to buy there shit

100%

Regardless what Dre does, every beat is "Amazing" to some of these kids. Even the weakest beat to them is "Classic." Mindless drones!!!



Aint that tha truth....and btw..."2001" aint no classic...groundbreaking in a sense but classic naw...there are a few weak azz tracks on there.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: SGV on May 25, 2005, 04:26:26 PM

lol... dont even waist your time with this dude. He thinks Cam drops nothing but heat, lol... what a joke  ::)
The "Nothing But Heat" comment was directed towards the "Come Home With Me" album.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 25, 2005, 04:57:06 PM
Listened once? A numerous times?


i expected that u dont know how to read.. thats why i made sure to type MOSTLY in caps...but what can i say.. ignorance is ignorance

LOL. And Roc is MOSTLY in house production too. So yea, I guess ignorance really is ignorance.

last i checked the album that came from roc-afella with most inhouse production was.. blueprint i might be wrong.. but i highly doubt there is any roc album that had more than 6 or7 in house beats.. thats outta 14-18 trax
on the other hand ppl like em,dre and game have mostly in house production
50 for instance gets from ppl like needlz and the no name producers shit... they r not in house but no one buys their shit but 50

the other extreme is dip set, their album had 11-12 heatmakerz beats and 2 just blaze beats.. thats it
cam's album had 2 kanye beats and a just blaze one, thats it the rest was heat makers and others
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: westkoastanostra on May 25, 2005, 05:12:43 PM
weve been preprogrammed to buy there shit

100%

Regardless what Dre does, every beat is "Amazing" to some of these kids. Even the weakest beat to them is "Classic." Mindless drones!!!



Aint that tha truth....and btw..."2001" aint no classic...groundbreaking in a sense but classic naw...there are a few weak azz tracks on there.

wutta fuck is this? how can u say "2001" aint no classic....
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: SGV on May 25, 2005, 05:13:00 PM
Heatmakers = Diplomat's Producers.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: eS El Duque on May 25, 2005, 07:26:35 PM
Well, thanks for pointing out the obvious Masta T ;D

oh and btw, lmao @ College dropout having 1 skipable track...SGV is just saying shit to get people angry and it's working, don't you see how he works lol.


but yea, 2001, MMLP, SSLP are the only albums that stick out that are GOOD albums....
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: The Watcher on May 25, 2005, 07:46:44 PM
wow it was about time for another one of these threads !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you can produce/mc/engineer/mix/whatever an album better than any of those, then put it together & let us hear it
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on May 25, 2005, 08:05:52 PM
Thanks MatsaT I couldnt agree more
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 25, 2005, 10:04:17 PM
I don't buy the Jimmy Iovine excuse because the artists are proven to sell so they don't need any company direction. And since Dre is the "perfectionist" he wouldnt allow the shit to be released.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Ronni on May 25, 2005, 10:56:16 PM
The last 2 albums you listed were garbage,Cheers is only good for a small amount of time,after that you suddenly realize how crappy that cd was.& like I said,this is for the Shady/Aftermath groupies who act like thses are the 2 best labels you could be signed to.If I got your feelings hurt wit this thread Im so sorry ::)

Hmm... I don't know if they are the 2 greatest labels out there but they do know what they're doing. If I was to sign to a label I would expect to make some money. Aftermath/Shady has proven they know the business. They know how to support and promote their artists and they sell millions of records. They're on top of the game right now so I guess this is why many people would see it as a privilege to sign with them. Since they've proven they can sell records and all... But I guess you'd rather sign with Tha Row??
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on May 26, 2005, 12:11:07 AM
^This thread is about the quality of their music,I already stated in my first & later posts that they sell,right???
wow it was about time for another one of these threads !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you can produce/mc/engineer/mix/whatever an album better than any of those, then put it together & let us hear it
Well currently Im not makin any albums,that is not my proffesion but it is their's.lmao at your argument.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: G funker on May 26, 2005, 02:51:06 AM
Dope:
The Documentary (Aftermath / G-Unit)
Cheers (Shady Records)
Get Rich Or Die Tryin (Aftermath / Shady Records)
Marshall Mathers LP (Aftermath)
2001 (Aftermath)
Slim Shady LP (Aftermath)
8Mile Soundtrack                   
Shady / Aftermath Sampler     
The Wash Soundtrack           
The Firm - The Album             
Dr. Dre Presents the Aftermath

Reasonable:
Truthfully Speaking (Aftermath)
The Eminem Show (Aftermath)
Devil's Night (Shady Records)
More 8Mile Soundtrack            -


Wack:
The Massacre (Aftermath / Shady Records)
Encore (Aftermath)
D12 World (Shady Records)

Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Okka on May 26, 2005, 03:11:44 AM
To me "2001" is a fuckin classic, my favorite album of all times, "The Documentary" is fuckin dope and "Cheers" is too, and even the "Dr. Dre Presents...The Aftermath" had fuckin dope tracks in it..

All Aftermath/Shady releases do have a few good tracks on them, but i agree that alot of them albums are WACK
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Lil Jay on May 26, 2005, 03:58:20 AM
weve been preprogrammed to buy there shit

100%

Regardless what Dre does, every beat is "Amazing" to some of these kids. Even the weakest beat to them is "Classic." Mindless drones!!!



Aint that tha truth....and btw..."2001" aint no classic...groundbreaking in a sense but classic naw...there are a few weak azz tracks on there.


so what do you consider a classic?
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Brazemac on May 26, 2005, 04:20:34 AM
The Game DOcumentary is classic
2001 classic
slim shady lp classic
and get rich or die trying made 50 cent as big as he is today.

most of the other albums you named is just eminem executive produced and on shady records.

Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: acbaylove on May 26, 2005, 04:33:02 AM
I'm not allowed to talk bad about rappers, people's feelings get hurt.  :'(

In this case you can! ;D
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 26, 2005, 04:34:22 AM
Listened once? A numerous times?


i expected that u dont know how to read.. thats why i made sure to type MOSTLY in caps...but what can i say.. ignorance is ignorance

LOL. And Roc is MOSTLY in house production too. So yea, I guess ignorance really is ignorance.

last i checked the album that came from roc-afella with most inhouse production was.. blueprint i might be wrong.. but i highly doubt there is any roc album that had more than 6 or7 in house beats.. thats outta 14-18 trax
on the other hand ppl like em,dre and game have mostly in house production
50 for instance gets from ppl like needlz and the no name producers shit... they r not in house but no one buys their shit but 50

the other extreme is dip set, their album had 11-12 heatmakerz beats and 2 just blaze beats.. thats it
cam's album had 2 kanye beats and a just blaze one, thats it the rest was heat makers and others


im with SGV on this one...i fail to see what difference it makes to the quality of an album whether the producers were in-house or not...i dont even know what the point is that your trying to make?  that sticking to in-house production makes your albums better? :-\
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Don Seer on May 26, 2005, 04:40:09 AM

as an argument for 'why' the label is better the inhouse thing is BS.


however.. from interscopes perspective in-house producers = cheaper albums = bigger profits...

the thing is dre and eminem produce (ok eminem is debatable lol) .. jay-z doesnt....


Game used a grip of different producers and came out with a rounded sounding album whcih is hard to acheive with so many metaphorical cooks baking his pie
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: acbaylove on May 26, 2005, 04:42:59 AM
The Game DOcumentary is classic
2001 classic
slim shady lp classic
and get rich or die trying made 50 cent as big as he is today.

most of the other albums you named is just eminem executive produced and on shady records.

You know what? I was watching WELCOME 2 DEATH ROW yesterday. At one point, there's an executive producer (i dont remember who he was) who said: "It's a known fact that in the music business, if you make 3 great albums out of 10 you're considered a genious". Aftermath/Shady probably did 3 good albums. I dunno if you can call them "classics", but that's not even the point. 3 good albums for sure. The fact is that Dre left Death Row. There, every album they released before Pac's death was been a CLASSIC album. No wack albums at all. You know what i mean? Death Row back in the day = classic album guaranteed. Aftermath/Shady = ? (no). That's the only difference, imo. Death Row never released a "THE MASSACRE" album. You know what i mean? Or a D12 album. Or shit like that. Death Row was quality. Was platinum. Was classic. Aftermath/Shady is 1 good album out of 4. Still respectful, but not on the same level.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: mauzip on May 26, 2005, 04:47:42 AM
^^that's real
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Don Seer on May 26, 2005, 04:48:31 AM
it is..

but like i pointed out before... Dre hasn't got his fingers all over every shady/g-unit release

break it back down to a list of  albums dre exec produced and that came out on aftermath (post shake up)


You'll see Dre's record stands..





Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Elevz on May 26, 2005, 04:52:17 AM
^^ That's the problem, Dre doesn't have time anymore to completely focus on ONE album at a time. That's what's lacking about his current situation: he's too popular so he's busy all over the industry producing songs, instead of focussing on releasing classics on his own label.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 26, 2005, 04:57:35 AM
^^but he aint done that much outside work recently...

i think the problem is more to do with the fact that they keep signing artists and so he aint concentrating on solo work like he should be
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 26, 2005, 04:58:21 AM
^^ this is kinda true
he couldn'teven complete game's album he did his work in the summer and let 50 finish off the album..... which caused alot of drama
he doesnt work with eminem any more
to be honest i dunno who is dre busy with
he doesnt work with em
he worked a bit with game
doesnt work alot with 50
i doubt he put alotta work to busta's album.. cause busta is bigand old enuff to do his album...
and i highly doubt he been workin on detox all that time
i really dunno, maybe he just chillin and countin his money
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Larrabee on May 26, 2005, 07:59:22 AM
Slim Shady LP ( not one of my personal faves, but it's impact can't be denied, as it intro'd Em to the masses )
2001 ( classic without a doubt \ one of the best produced albums ever )
M. Mathers LP ( another classic, the one they're going to remember Em for when he's gone )
Devils Night ( slept on album, imo...production is dope and it's got some sick material )
Wash Sountrack ( a mixed bag, a few diamonds in it..."The Wash" is a 5\5 track )
Eminem Show ( I can see why people dog on it, but it was a great album imo. Contains a few 5\5 songs )
Truthfully Speaking ( decent for what it was worth )
8 Mile Soundtrack ( quite a few dope tracks here, decent release, "Lose Yourself" speaks for itself )
Get Rich Or Die Tryin' ( overrated in some ways, but it's impact is always a factor...50 came correct on most songs )
Cheers ( dope album, only a couple of fillers )
Beg For Mercy ( another mixed bag...a few bangers )
D12 World ( see "Beg For Mercy" )
Hunger For More ( tight album, production is great except for a few cuts, but nothing mind blowing )
Straight Outta Cashville ( far from a weak release, but still nothing too great. )
Encore ( Em's worst album, but there are a few standouts here & there. Another mixed bag )
The Documentary ( I can't front on this, Game delivered the best album in the last several years. Production was strong as fuck... )
The Massacre ( The beats were banging for the most part, a few dope cuts, but falls short of anything classic )

Personally, I think that Aftermath & Shady do deliver the goods most of the time, but they rarely hit one outta the park. Albums range from decent to dope to classic, but the quality of production is what puts them over the top, plus having Dre, Em & 50 involved gaurantees sales...anyone's take, I guess. I'm just waiting for "Detox", fuck another Em or 50 release, I'm not really anticipating any future album put out by the label too much, except for Dre's.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Capo Di Tutti I Capi on May 26, 2005, 08:09:18 AM
How can somebody call the Slim Shady LP a classic??
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: westkoastanostra on May 26, 2005, 10:19:31 AM
^^ this is kinda true
he couldn'teven complete game's album he did his work in the summer and let 50 finish off the album..... which caused alot of drama
he doesnt work with eminem any more
to be honest i dunno who is dre busy with
he doesnt work with em
he worked a bit with game
doesnt work alot with 50
i doubt he put alotta work to busta's album.. cause busta is bigand old enuff to do his album...
and i highly doubt he been workin on detox all that time
i really dunno, maybe he just chillin and countin his money

how does dre not work with eminem no more?...he produced 8 songs in "encore"....hell thats the most dr.dre beats put on an album since who know when...
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 26, 2005, 11:11:30 AM
he only worked with him on thre songs
never enuff
mosh
encore
the other 5 beats were sent to him and lay his vocals
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: acbaylove on May 26, 2005, 11:46:35 AM
it is..

but like i pointed out before... Dre hasn't got his fingers all over every shady/g-unit release

break it back down to a list of  albums dre exec produced and that came out on aftermath (post shake up)

You'll see Dre's record stands..
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Yeah, you are right. But i was talking about Aftermath, not Dre. Death Row was the best not only because of Dre. All Eyez On Me is 90% a non-Dr.Dre produced album. And it sold what it sold. Makaveli is not produced by Dre. The power of Death Row was that it wasnt only Dre. Snoop went platinum without Dre. 2Pac went platinum without Dre. Shit, even Rage went platinum without Dre. Even the soundtracks. That's power. They got enought power to say: "Fuck Dre!" and still make multiplatinum (double) albums.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Brazemac on May 26, 2005, 02:02:15 PM
SGV is on point on this one.
Bro I totally agree there they made a few but its nowhere near the 10/10 albums are dope like deathrow had
 8)
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on May 26, 2005, 05:05:05 PM
Interscope got their back.Marketing,Publicity all the shit....They make a lot of money for Interscope....back in the day Death Row was backed by Interscope $$$$$
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on May 26, 2005, 05:06:22 PM
Interscope got their back.Marketing,Publicity all the shit....They make a lot of money for Interscope....back in the day Death Row was backed by Interscope $$$$$
and yeah when Dre lest Death Row ...Interscope didnt hasitate to give Dre a label...Aftermath
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on May 26, 2005, 05:06:54 PM

Interscope got their back.Marketing,Publicity all the shit....They make a lot of money for Interscope....back in the day Death Row was backed by Interscope $$$$$
and yeah when Dre left Death Row ...Interscope didnt hasitate to give Dre a label...Aftermath
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Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 26, 2005, 05:27:06 PM
^^ dre's chronic saved jimmy iovine and interscope from closing down...
he generated 50 million for them
thats why dre as a solo artist has full control on his career h can release watever he wants as a solo artist thru interscope w/o jimmy's OK
and if yall remember jimmy bought 35% of aftermath for 50 million in 2001
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: BigBDrugStores on May 26, 2005, 05:54:07 PM
I prefer cash money over anythin, then chopper city, UTP, and young money
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 28, 2005, 02:56:38 AM
I prefer cash money over anythin, then chopper city, UTP, and young money

hmmm...no comment
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: LazyLatino on May 29, 2005, 06:08:55 PM
weve been preprogrammed to buy there shit

100%

Regardless what Dre does, every beat is "Amazing" to some of these kids. Even the weakest beat to them is "Classic." Mindless drones!!!



Aint that tha truth....and btw..."2001" aint no classic...groundbreaking in a sense but classic naw...there are a few weak azz tracks on there.


so what do you consider a classic?



The Chronic only had maybe ONE questionable track, 2001 has a couple "Lets get high" "The message"  "Some La niggaz" ...4,5 mics. Nuff said.



Peace

LazyL
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: wcsoldier on May 30, 2005, 12:32:38 PM
weve been preprogrammed to buy there shit

100%

Regardless what Dre does, every beat is "Amazing" to some of these kids. Even the weakest beat to them is "Classic." Mindless drones!!!



Aint that tha truth....and btw..."2001" aint no classic...groundbreaking in a sense but classic naw...there are a few weak azz tracks on there.


so what do you consider a classic?



The Chronic only had maybe ONE questionable track, 2001 has a couple "Lets get high" "The message"  "Some La niggaz" ...4,5 mics. Nuff said.



Peace

LazyL
Some L.A Niggaz questionable  ??? If a track is questionable it's Ackrite
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: NFX on June 01, 2005, 02:48:09 PM
It aint about putting out classic albums any more, it's all about the singles.
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: Lil Jay on June 01, 2005, 03:01:50 PM
The Chronic only had maybe ONE questionable track, 2001 has a couple "Lets get high" "The message"  "Some La niggaz" ...4,5 mics. Nuff said.

WTF, never that. Anyway its your opinion so I respect it. we have different tastes in music anyway so its all good with me  :-*
Title: Re: Aftermath & Shady Records aint no fuckin dream team...
Post by: LazyLatino on June 01, 2005, 04:07:52 PM
The Chronic only had maybe ONE questionable track, 2001 has a couple "Lets get high" "The message"  "Some La niggaz" ...4,5 mics. Nuff said.

WTF, never that. Anyway its your opinion so I respect it. we have different tastes in music anyway so its all good with me  :-*


Haha its all good Lil Jay  8), you`ll see it one day  ;)