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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: topdogg187 on June 29, 2002, 10:03:58 AM
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Since me and I to da geezy were arguing bout this in the outbound connections and since he thought it was funny when i said that snoop back in the day was better then nas at any time was so funny i want to see who y'all think was better: Snoop DOGGY Dogg or Nas?
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he's right.
if they'd dropped at the same time nas would have been forgotten about.
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he's right.
if they'd dropped at the same time nas would have been forgotten about.
Exactly!
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^^^^^^^^^^^what the two of them said ;D
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lemme get this straight .............so what yall are sayin is snoop is better than nas?ya'll smokin on the same shit snoop and daz are then cuz dog was never one of the greats if he aint talkin bout pimps,bitches and weed nigga aint sayin shit he got no depth.what will he be remembered for smokin weed makin weed songs dre made that nigga period,any talent he has is gone and been gone for years.Nas got a fuckin catalog of classic shit its like sayin jayo felony is better than rakim
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I agree. Nas is ill, and Snoop is too. But Snoop has always rhymed about havin a good time, and not goin as deep as Nas does. Nas is iller in my opinion, but Snoop is a MC I'll always support.
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its like sayin jayo felony is better than rakim
Uh, Jayo Felony is better than Rakim..
J/K
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lemme get this straight .............so what yall are sayin is snoop is better than nas?ya'll smokin on the same shit snoop and daz are then cuz dog was never one of the greats if he aint talkin bout pimps,bitches and weed nigga aint sayin shit he got no depth.what will he be remembered for smokin weed makin weed songs dre made that nigga period,any talent he has is gone and been gone for years.Nas got a fuckin catalog of classic shit its like sayin jayo felony is better than rakim
snoops exposure back when doggystyle dropped was unlike anything every before - probably not up until eminem was any rapper so well known.
their shit was on entirely different levels. nas was a 'more complete mc' from a lyrical standpoint.. but at the time.. looking at the quality of the product from snoop it simply would have blown nas away if they dropped at the same point in time. snoop waned.. nas rose (then waned) ... etc etc
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Why do y'all say Nas would have been forgotten about cuz of Snoop ? Ure comparin a lyrically almost perfect QB masterpiece to an LBC G-Funk classic, sayin one of them wouldn't have gotten props, if they would have both been dropped at the same time. I'm not judgin Nas/Snoop or comparin them, but what makes y'all think two completly different hip hop albums wouldn't (couldn't) have been recognized at the same time ? If they were similiar and Illmatic was just way weaker, I'd get ur point, but comparin Illmatic to Doggystyle...
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lemme get this straight .............so what yall are sayin is snoop is better than nas?ya'll smokin on the same shit snoop and daz are then cuz dog was never one of the greats if he aint talkin bout pimps,bitches and weed nigga aint sayin shit he got no depth.what will he be remembered for smokin weed makin weed songs dre made that nigga period,any talent he has is gone and been gone for years.Nas got a fuckin catalog of classic shit its like sayin jayo felony is better than rakim
yeah and u sayin nas is better then snoop is like me sayin nelly is better then pac it just ain't happenin homie and it's also like som peeps sayin em is the best in the game.lol when really eminem is a fucken joke.
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Nas has the better
lyrics
substance
Snoop has the better
flow
voice
hooks in his songs
beats
its all in preference to what you like...if you wana smoke a blunt an party and sing along to some g funk. then snoop is the man
if you wana think about what someones saying and feel the lyrics more, then Nas is the man...
I prefer Snoop over Nas because I can get on Snoop's level and relate to the things hes talking about, and he makes me laugh...
Snoop was also on top of the rap game no doubt when and after Doggystyle dropped
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begining of there careers, its a tie. Over tha long run, nas easily. An fuck beats. Snoop does not make tha beats. OK. Flowise, snoop is a shadow of his formerself. He raps about pimps, how fuckin original. An topdogg187, get snoops dick out ya mouth cuz sayin eminem is complete garbage is a fuckin joke. Lets see snoop do a song wit tha realness an emotion of sing for tha moment.
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'93-'96 Snoop would take this easily for me. Otherwise Nas wins.
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:)Nas :)
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Back in the day it was Snoop. Right now I'd say Nas.
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Well Snoop iz my favorite rap artist so it gotta be snoop even though nas is lyrical genius...i aint gona hate..chuuch!!
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You can't compare the two, its like comparing peanut butter to jelly
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~rdf7d/banana.swf
-Big BpG
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You can't compare the two, its like comparing peanut butter to jelly
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~rdf7d/banana.swf
-Big BpG
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That site had me laughing so hard. Good shit dogg.
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You can't compare the two, its like comparing peanut butter to jelly
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~rdf7d/banana.swf
-Big BpG
of all tha biggest snoop fans here, i got tha most respect 4 u. I dunno why but when it comes to snoop u atleast have a reason 2 liking him. Plus what u said is right, if all depends on what u perfer
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of all tha biggest snoop fans here, i got tha most respect 4 u. I dunno why but when it comes to snoop u atleast have a reason 2 liking him. Plus what u said is right, if all depends on what u perfer
Thanks man, of course I love the mans music, but I know there are a whole bunch of talented rappers out there, and its like all a mixing bowl of greatness...
-Big BpG
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Nas
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ROTFLMAO at big bpg
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begining of there careers, its a tie. Over tha long run, nas easily. An fuck beats. Snoop does not make tha beats. OK. Flowise, snoop is a shadow of his formerself. He raps about pimps, how fuckin original. An topdogg187, get snoops dick out ya mouth cuz sayin eminem is complete garbage is a fuckin joke. Lets see snoop do a song wit tha realness an emotion of sing for tha moment.
no homie get ems dick outta ur mouth and see eminem for the complete faggot that he really is. and i'm tired or u always sayin shit like get snoops dick outta ur mouth. like what the fuck is up with that homie? everyone always sticks up for 2pac and i never hear shit liek oh fucken shutup u fucken pac dikryder pac sucks, but then all of sudden sombody says snoop is the best and people start sayin shti like fuck u snoop dickryder get his dick outta ur mouth. like what tha fuck? it seems like pacs got a double standard where fans and fans and non fans are wrong but on snoops case fans are dickryders and non fans are considered right.
SNOOP DOGGY DOGG IS THE GOAT
*waits for everyone on this board to call me a dickryder* ::)
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Like seer's said, if they dropped their debuts at the same time I think Snoop would of overshadowed Nas, simply because Snoop had soooooooooooooo much charisma, soooooooooo much talent, his flow was the best in the game, he stood out above all, and teamed up with Dre it was like a match made in heaven. Ofcourse "Illmatic" would still be regarded as the classic it is today, but Snoop would of taken most of the spotlight imo. But today, Nas takes it easily, he's just more creative and he's got more shit to say, I love Snoop, he's still one of my all time fav's, but there's only so much pimp shit I can take these days, Nas brings more lyrical depth which is what I look for mostly.
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That site had me laughing so hard. Good shit dogg.
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IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR IN THE MOOD FOR. IF YOU WANT THE SMOOTH SHIT THE FIRST PERSON YOU THROW IN IS SNOOP IF YOU WANT SOME LYRICS YOU THROW IN NAS. THEY ARE THE BEST AT WHAT THEY DO, BUT THEY DONT DO THE SAME THING.
BUT LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS, BEFORE STILLMATIC WHAT CLASSIC SHIT DID NAS HAVE. IT WAS WRITTEN WAS VERRY SOLID ALBUM, I AM... HAD TWO SONGS AND NASTRADAMAS WAS TERRIBLE.
IF YOU LOOK AT SNOOP, DOGGYSTYLE WAS CLASSIC, DOGGFATHER WAS A VERY SOLID ALBUM, THE GAME WAS TERRIBLE, THEN TOP DOGG HAD ABOUT 7 CUTS THAT WERE GOOD, THEN THE LAST MEAL WAS ANOTHER STRONG ALBUM.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT ALBUMS STRENTHS SNOOP WOULD GET NAS. NAS HAD THREE GOOD ALBUMS, SNOOP HAD FOUR. AND IF YOU LOOK AT CLASSIC SONGS SNOOP HAS NAS BY A MILLION.
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anyone who thinks Nas would've been forgotten has forgotten that New York decides who blows up, and who disappears more than anything else, this was even more true back in 93/94.
in 93-96 it would've been interesting, because both were dope, but nowadays? its no contest... snoop sounds more smoked out on every release, and Nas has continued to make dope songs. Snoop was my favorite solo cat for probably 4 years, but even in his prime he wasn't a better MC than Nas, and he still isn't. They're on different vibes, Nas seems to be staying in the knowledge/uplift/lyrical mode, while Snoop seems to move more and more towards mixing hip-hop with a whole lot of 70's funk flavour, which is okay sometimes, but i get real tired of it after a while...
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hmmmm.......lets see N.Y. state of mind ,the world is yours,life's a bitch,halftime,one love,it aint hard to tell,I gave you power,black girl lost, you know what your right snoop overall got a more impressive catalog ..................sheeiiitt
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you know what your right snoop overall got a more impressive catalog
exactly homie now ur comin around ;D
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BUT LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS, BEFORE STILLMATIC WHAT CLASSIC SHIT DID NAS HAVE. IT WAS WRITTEN WAS VERRY SOLID ALBUM, I AM... HAD TWO SONGS AND NASTRADAMAS WAS TERRIBLE.
Before "Stillmatic"? Lol, have you never heard of "Illmatic"?? Where the hell have you been? Slap yourself. You shouldn't reply to this thread if you've never heard "Illmatic".
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Nas is way better than snoop.nas still make good shit.but when snoop droped doggy style snoop was better than nas & any other rapper that was out at the time.i know nas wasnt out when doggy style came out but snoop was better than nas back in the day.
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Snoop Doggy Dogg was the greatest of all time!
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Doggy Dogg
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Damn, i feel sorry for you Hack if all you do is read old threads on this forum. Is that how you spend your days?
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if u like mature music with substance that actually mean something & could listen to all the time even when u get oldier & mature than nas is the man.but if u like immature music that dont mean nothing that u a actually grow out of once u get oldier & mature than u a like snoop dogg.i use 2 like snoop dogg more but now that im mature.im not into that so called gangsta shit.i like nas more.& nas still put out good music
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LOL @ the comments in this thread
Snoop was cool as fuck in day 1 but his ABC nursery rhyme lyrics were carried by the production and the camaraderie of the other MCs involved. The sum was greater than the parts.
No way has snoop ever been close Nas. Only in his 'rap is too easy' dreams
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Doggy Dogg is the best in my opinion and always will be... 8) 8)
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IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR IN THE MOOD FOR. IF YOU WANT THE SMOOTH SHIT THE FIRST PERSON YOU THROW IN IS SNOOP IF YOU WANT SOME LYRICS YOU THROW IN NAS. THEY ARE THE BEST AT WHAT THEY DO, BUT THEY DONT DO THE SAME THING.
BUT LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS, BEFORE STILLMATIC WHAT CLASSIC SHIT DID NAS HAVE. IT WAS WRITTEN WAS VERRY SOLID ALBUM, I AM... HAD TWO SONGS AND NASTRADAMAS WAS TERRIBLE.
IF YOU LOOK AT SNOOP, DOGGYSTYLE WAS CLASSIC, DOGGFATHER WAS A VERY SOLID ALBUM, THE GAME WAS TERRIBLE, THEN TOP DOGG HAD ABOUT 7 CUTS THAT WERE GOOD, THEN THE LAST MEAL WAS ANOTHER STRONG ALBUM.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT ALBUMS STRENTHS SNOOP WOULD GET NAS. NAS HAD THREE GOOD ALBUMS, SNOOP HAD FOUR. AND IF YOU LOOK AT CLASSIC SONGS SNOOP HAS NAS BY A MILLION.
possibly the most uninformed post ever
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Nastradmus always gets shit on but that shit was laiced with shit for real
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didn't realize this thread was made 10 years ago :laugh:...was a much better argument then, since '02 Snoop has dropped one dope album BCT while Nas has continually dropped heat...
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didn't realize this thread was made 10 years ago :laugh:...was a much better argument then, since '02 Snoop has dropped one dope album BCT while Nas has continually dropped heat...
snoop was on top of his game in 1999-2004 imo...
but of course "doggystyle" is his masterpiece
i think you can't compare the two with each other...snoop is/was all about flow, music and vibe and nas is more about lyrics and depth...but nowadays i would say nas. at least he is no sell-out like snoop
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Nas might be the greatest MC ever. But Snoop still has more hits and classic tracks.
But Nas is and has always been a far superior MC. Snoop is a bit of a joke now, needs to do something quick to gain respect back. But still drops a dope verse every now and then.
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jesus. forums were really as retarded as i remember back then . not that they´re not retarded these days but in the old days the wiggers were running amok.
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from 92 to 2001 my money was on snoop.
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Nas aint even best rapper in his boro or city.
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Nas aint even best rapper in his boro or city.
LOL
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Nas aint even best rapper in his boro or city.
LOL
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Nas aint even best rapper in his boro or city.
LMAO what a dumb opinion
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LOL @ the comments in this thread
Snoop was cool as fuck in day 1 but his ABC nursery rhyme lyrics were carried by the production and the camaraderie of the other MCs involved. The sum was greater than the parts.
No way has snoop ever been close Nas. Only in his 'rap is too easy' dreams
this
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This is just a weird comparison. We're talking two very different types of artists.
But to make the argument that Nas would have been forgotten if he dropped around the time that "Doggystyle" did, I doubt it. "Illmatic" didn't gain its repuation off the strength of its presence on the Billboard charts. If he could stay relevent in a time when his region had Biggie and Wu-Tang blowing up then he would have been alright in the wake of Snoop's huge album sales. I mean, the mid-90's was something of a celebrated stylistic diversity in hip-hop where there was a little bit to pick from. It was similiar in 1998-99 when you would have Ruff Ryder, No Limit, Cash Money, Eminem, and several other acts vying for consumer dollars.
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very true jimmy
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The thing is, most people judge MCs as being clever based on just the content of the lyrics...
So going off that, then Nas has WAY cleverer well-thought-out subject matter than Snoop.
BUT... Snoop is WAY cleverer in the use of his voice... he uses melodies, can sound sarcastic, smooth,
funny, etc. and is so interesting to listen to (on Doggystyle).
Little things like "can't fuck with this, can't fuck with that" (with the high pitched parts)
are added all the way through, and he really mixes up the rhythms more than Nas.
Nas doesn't really do much with his voice -- it's a steady monotone delivery all the way through usually,
with regular, methodical rhythms.
So I admire and appreciate Nas's music because the content is so well crafted, but I don't really enjoy
it that much musically, because he doesn't put a lot of time or effort into how it actually sounds, IMO.
I get why so many people love Nas though... if content is your thing, he's amazing, and
he doesn't sound bad, just not as varied as someone like Snoop.
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Nas...but Snoop held his own on this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI32fQnyg1I
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Two totally different styles and artists so its hard to give it a fair judgement.
The thing people forget about Illmatic is the huge buzz behind it when it was released.
The only problem with the album is that it was full on underground. There were no radio cuts at all
so the album did not do well from a commercial stand point. Where Doggystyle had a lot of cross over tracks.
If Illmatic would have had a few radio joints on it (like maybe if "If I Ruled The World" was on Illmatic) then it probably could have given Doggystyle a run for its money
sales wise but then again, one was a party album and the other was a deep album so its hard to compare
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Nas aint even best rapper in his boro or city.
LMAO what a dumb opinion
Yet Marley Marl, Shan, Poet and a host of other queens pioneers share it. Only you mainstream dicklickers obsess and nutride this dude.
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Nas aint even best rapper in his boro or city.
LMAO what a dumb opinion
Yet Marley Marl, Shan, Poet and a host of other queens pioneers share it. Only you mainstream dicklickers obsess and nutride this dude.
Why you hatin' on Nas? This has nothin' to do with the fact that you're a big Cormega fan?
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Nas aint even best rapper in his boro or city.
LMAO what a dumb opinion
Yet Marley Marl, Shan, Poet and a host of other queens pioneers share it. Only you mainstream dicklickers obsess and nutride this dude.
Why you hatin' on Nas? This has nothin' to do with the fact that you're a big Cormega fan?
and we have a winner