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Title: The Greatest 50 Hip-hop Albums Ever - #8...
Post by: Twentytwofifty on August 04, 2005, 01:06:13 PM
N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton (1988) 
(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc500/c570/c570717e782.jpg) (http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1NS08P7QNKAEF2F3X9GV2KLKED)
 
    NWA, the world's most dangerous, and argueably the most infuencial, group were formed in 1986 by former drug dealer, Eric 'Eazy-E' Wright.  Eazy formed Ruthless Records as a way to get paid, nothing more, nothing less.  He brought in local rapper Lorenzo 'MC Ren' Paterson, a local rapper/writer from a crew called CIA - Ice Cube, born O'Shea Jackson, and the two producers/DJs of the World Class Wreckin' Cru, Dr. Dre (Andre Young) and Antoine 'DJ Yella' Carraby.  The group formed and adopted the name N.W.A (Niggaz With Attitude), with the plan of turning their back on the radio waves and to come out with records which pushed the limits of what society deemed acceptable.  The album which pushed every boundary imaginable sold over two million copies in just a few months without a radio friendly track.  If the streets ever had anything to say, N.W.A’s revolutionary debut, Straight Outta Compton, served as its definitive voice.
 
    Dr. Dre once famously quipped that the album had been comprised in just 6 weeks to sell out of the boot of the car at local swap meets.  Straight Outta Compton is the most influencial hardcore hip-hop album of all time.  17 years later, the album has become a legendary classic in hip-hop history and is also one of the most contraversial albums of all time.  The album was constantly slated in the national press and even the FBI wrote a letter regarding “Fuck The Police”. (http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0FM7N6LYKUEOK3TULO9MRD8YC2)  Unapologetically frightening, N.W.A's Straight Outta Compton is one of the most seminal albums in the history of rap and greatly influenced countless gangsta rappers.  N.W.A didn't invent gangsta rap — others such as Ice-T and Schoolly D had already embraced first-person narratives focusing on the harsh realities of ghetto life — but the L.A. group made it even more violent and more importantly, they are the ones that really brought it to the masses.  Portraying gang members and other felons, Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, MC Ren and Eazy-E took listeners on an arresting journey through L.A.'s tough Compton ghetto.  While Public Enemy injected heavy doses of self-empowerment and social analysis into their musical attack on the establishment, N.W.A simply threatened to rob it and burn it down.  Seconds after the album’s violent, jarring, rampageous ”Straight Outta Compton” (http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27MFSSAW78SMF28YZUPFQYGXXO) exploded, Compton instantaneously became a hip-hop landmark.  Dr. Dre’s production genius was undeniable and Ice Cube’s chilling Charles Mason-inspired prophecies frightened America.  Slick, funk-injected villainous anthems like “Dopeman” and “Gangsta, Gangsta” (http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2O8VB2Q5M7Z2I3RLYN9CKYQ346) placed listeners in their criminal mindset, making it acceptable to root for the “bad guy”.  Critics of this highly controversial album contended that N.W.A was glamorizing Black-on-Black crime — the rappers countered that they weren't encouraging violence, but rather were presenting an audio documentary of life as they knew it growing up in Compton.  Subsequently, gangsta rap would be plagued by numerous soundalike MCs who lacked even a fraction of N.W.A's originality.  But in the innovative hands of N.W.A., it was bold, inspired and arresting.


50. Dr. Dre – 2001 (1999) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=73625.0)
49. Outkast – Southernplayalisticaddicmuzik (1994) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=73777.0)
48. Jay-Z – Reasonable Doubt (1996) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74040.0)
47. Kool G Rap & DJ Polo – Wanted: Dead Or Alive (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74218.0)
46. Redman – Whut? Thee Album (1992) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74531.0)
45. De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead (1991) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74834.0)
44. Fugees – The Score (1996) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=75061.0)
43. The D.O.C. – No One Can Do It Better (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=75381.0)
42. Common Sense - Resurrection (1994) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=75589.0)
41. Makaveli - The Don Kiluminati: The 7 Day Theory (1996) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=75939.0)
40. Public Enemy – Fear Of A Black Planet (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=76104.0)
39. Ice Cube – Death Certificate (1992) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=76728.0)
38. Gza/Genius - Liquid Swords (1995) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=77194.0)
37. N.W.A – Efil4zaggin (1991) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=77354.0)
36. Main Source – Breaking Atoms (1991) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=77548.0)
35. Geto Boys – Grip It! On That Other Level (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78193.0)
34. Brand Nubian – One For All (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78454.0)
33. Scarface – The Diary (1994) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78896.0)
32. Kool G Rap & DJ Polo – Road To The Riches (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78973.0)
31. Beastie Boys – Licensed To Ill (1986) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78994.0)
30. Ultramagnetic MC's – Critical Beatdown (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=79307.0)
29. LL Cool J – Radio (1985) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=79487.0)
28. 2Pac – All Eyez On Me (1996) (http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre700/e771/e771847607k.jpg)
27. Mobb Deep – The Infamous… (1995) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80115.0)
26. Eric B. & Rakim – Follow The Leader (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80302.0)
25. Big Daddy Kane – It’s A Big Daddy (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80735.0)
24. Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth – Mecca And The Soul Brother (1992) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80831.0)
23. Black Moon – Enta Da Stage (1993) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80894.0)
22. Outkast – Aquemini (1998) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81163.0)
21. A Tribe Called Quest – People’s Instinctive Travels And The Paths Of Rhythm (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81368.0)
20. Run-D.M.C. – Run-D.M.C. (1984) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81525.0)
19. Boogie Down Productions – By All Means Necessary (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81656.0)
18. Raekwon – Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… (1995) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81932.0)
17. De La Soul – 3 Feet High And Rising (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=82271.0)
16. Snoop Doggy Dogg – Doggystyle (1993) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=82438.0)
15. Ice Cube – AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=82573.0)
14. The Notorious B.I.G. – Ready To Die (1994) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=82790.0)
13. Run-D.M.C. – Raising Hell (1986) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=83190.0)
12. EPMD – Strictly Business (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=83544.0)
11. Big Daddy Kane – Long Live The Kane (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=83825.0)
10. A Tribe Called Quest – Midnight Marauders (1993) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=84076.0)
09. Boogie Down Productions – Criminal Minded (1987) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=84264.0)
08. N.W.A – Straight Outta Compton (1988)
Title: Re: The Greatest 50 Hip-hop Albums Ever - #8...
Post by: Diabolical on August 04, 2005, 01:14:46 PM
 8)
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Post by: Lincoln on August 04, 2005, 01:32:34 PM
Good spot.
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Post by: eS El Duque on August 04, 2005, 02:37:51 PM
Great fuckin album 8)
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Post by: Don Jacob on August 04, 2005, 02:39:03 PM
way too low, should be  ALOT higher, like KRS one said, this is probably the most influencial rap record inside of rap AND outside
Title: Re: The Greatest 50 Hip-hop Albums Ever - #8...
Post by: Twentytwofifty on August 04, 2005, 02:47:04 PM
way too low, should be  ALOT higher, like KRS one said, this is probably the most influencial rap record inside of rap AND outside

I don't if you saw what number this is but it's number eight.  I can't see how it's way too low, there are only seven spots left.
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Post by: Don Jacob on August 04, 2005, 03:20:14 PM
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like KRS one said, this is probably the most influencial rap record inside of rap AND outside
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Post by: DAYUM on August 04, 2005, 03:49:47 PM
im still surprised i havent seen a Bone Thugs album yet..
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Post by: eS El Duque on August 04, 2005, 03:58:59 PM
im still surprised i havent seen a Bone Thugs album yet..

lmao..and you wont
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Post by: Don Jacob on August 04, 2005, 04:00:55 PM
im still surprised i havent seen a Bone Thugs album yet..

lmao..and you wont
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Post by: makaveli11 on August 04, 2005, 04:16:37 PM
way too low, should be  ALOT higher, like KRS one said, this is probably the most influencial rap record inside of rap AND outside

I don't if you saw what number this is but it's number eight.  I can't see how it's way too low, there are only seven spots left.
I don't think he is saying that spot eight itself is low, but he probably expected to see the album in the top five for sure. I agree with him because soc is probably the most influential hardcore rap album of all time. We will just have to see the rest of the list first before we start complaining.
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Post by: Suffice on August 04, 2005, 08:07:23 PM
im still surprised i havent seen a Bone Thugs album yet..

lmao..and you wont
yeah, i dunno though, i'd put E.1999 in the top 50 for sure. I dunno what CKnuckles was thinking
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Post by: icebergslimIII on August 04, 2005, 08:19:31 PM
I fell out of my chair twice when I saw Knuckle's post. First, he actually rated a west coast album where it should be in top albums of all time. This doesn't stand up over time like the classic Eazy E Eazy-Duz-It album beat wise, but was monumental in rap history. Who can forget ice cubes opening line to Straight Out of Compton? I think this was Dre's worst work for this period of time beat wise, but was great lyrically. I fell out of my chair the second time when I saw Big Daddy Kane rated #11. I know that shit didnt go platinum! Having a Big Daddy kane album rated ahead of Dre's 2001 and EFILZAGGIN is a disgrace! A travesty! I'm appalled!  I'm expecting Chuckles the Clown to have Young MC or Special Ed as the top album in rap history! Yo, Knuckles, where is Special Ed? He was way tighter than Big Daddy Kane! 2pac All Eyez on Me at #28? Knuckles, quit smoking that rock!
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Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on August 04, 2005, 08:45:08 PM
^Shut the fuck up

Props nuckles, good spot for this album, and for every other album too really.
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Post by: icebergslimIII on August 04, 2005, 08:59:42 PM
Knuckles put in a lot of time and effort on this project, but I have a problem with the Eastside slant and having eastcoast albums ranked so high. Westside!!!
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Post by: Dynamic on August 04, 2005, 09:53:20 PM
dis album is tha shit
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Post by: Like A N!gga Say Do on August 04, 2005, 10:23:46 PM
Damn one of the best album of westcoast no doubt!
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Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on August 05, 2005, 03:41:58 AM
Good Choice this album is quality
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Post by: Diabolical on August 05, 2005, 10:16:42 AM
Knuckles put in a lot of time and effort on this project, but I have a problem with the Eastside slant and having eastcoast albums ranked so high. Westside!!!


Theres a reasonfor that. If even WC fans diss a WC album how would you expect East coast fans to like it. If it doesnt sound like every other classic then its dirt in most peoples opinion.
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Post by: Paul on August 05, 2005, 10:19:13 AM
yeah really eternal 1999 should hav been in the top 50
a brilliant mix of gangsta lyrics and singin which hasnt been repeated , well hasnt been aswell as bone

the list is well done but very eastcoast bias
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Post by: Thuglife on August 05, 2005, 10:37:16 AM
yeah this should be a bit higher, i cant find any album more influencial on the deathrow era and gangsta rap.
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Post by: We Fly High on August 05, 2005, 10:38:48 AM
 bone thugs would never make the top 50..  those guys dont hold any weight to any of the albums already listed..

i dont really see any sort of east coast bias. thats just how hip hop history has been developed. bone thugs didnt make noise till what, like 95 or some shit when they started becoming big. all of the albums that knuckle has chosen are all the top albums from the very early years of hip hop. the shit he included from 94, 1995 and after- were all MUCH BETTER than any bone thugs shit. jay-z reasonable doubt, dr dre 2001, fugees, makaveli, all eyez on me, the infamous, aquemini, raekwon cuban linx.

this list is definitely a greatest hip hop albums of all time, and its coming from a very educated and older hip hop listener. i know some of you posters are young, so many of these albums may not have rang a bell for you guys, but bone thugs are not as great of a factor as you guys think.
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Post by: white Boy on August 05, 2005, 01:15:00 PM
id put this top 5, but 8 w/e still good spot.
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Post by: Compton Casanova on August 05, 2005, 01:24:33 PM
influence wise, hell no it can be at number 8. Try top 3 or at least top 5. >:(
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Post by: caTASHtrophe on August 05, 2005, 02:34:36 PM
bone thugs would never make the top 50..  those guys dont hold any weight to any of the albums already listed..

E.Eternal 1999 tosses up Dre 2001.

Anyway Nice list, and u know Nas is gonna storm into the top 3

 8)

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Post by: DAYUM on August 05, 2005, 02:48:23 PM
bone thugs would never make the top 50..  those guys dont hold any weight to any of the albums already listed..

in your list or his?

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Post by: We Fly High on August 05, 2005, 03:39:57 PM
^^ both mine and knuckles list it wouldnt show up. my list would resemble knuckles very much.

if you ask any true hip hop aficionado, like serious die hard hip hop fan, i very doubt they would include bone thugs... to the casual rap listener , yeah i could understand it due to their tastes and preferences.. but im prety sure any die hard purist would not put bone thugs in the top 50.
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Post by: DAYUM on August 05, 2005, 08:53:57 PM
^^ both mine and knuckles list it wouldnt show up. my list would resemble knuckles very much.

if you ask any true hip hop aficionado, like serious die hard hip hop fan, i very doubt they would include bone thugs... to the casual rap listener , yeah i could understand it due to their tastes and preferences.. but im prety sure any die hard purist would not put bone thugs in the top 50.

yeah i feel u im prolly the casual rap listener

but so are you
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Post by: herpes on August 05, 2005, 11:41:47 PM
I fell out of my chair twice when I saw Knuckle's post. First, he actually rated a west coast album where it should be in top albums of all time. This doesn't stand up over time like the classic Eazy E Eazy-Duz-It album beat wise, but was monumental in rap history. Who can forget ice cubes opening line to Straight Out of Compton? I think this was Dre's worst work for this period of time beat wise, but was great lyrically. I fell out of my chair the second time when I saw Big Daddy Kane rated #11. I know that shit didnt go platinum! Having a Big Daddy kane album rated ahead of Dre's 2001 and EFILZAGGIN is a disgrace! A travesty! I'm appalled!  I'm expecting Chuckles the Clown to have Young MC or Special Ed as the top album in rap history! Yo, Knuckles, where is Special Ed? He was way tighter than Big Daddy Kane! 2pac All Eyez on Me at #28? Knuckles, quit smoking that rock!
your a fuckin retard
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Post by: ABN on August 07, 2005, 10:08:13 AM
bone thugs would never make the top 50..  those guys dont hold any weight to any of the albums already listed..

E.Eternal 1999 tosses up Dre 2001.
lmao the worst tracks on 2001 would´ve been the best tracks on E.Eternal..........
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Post by: Sikotic™ on August 07, 2005, 11:29:37 AM
E. Eternal 1999 is one of the greatest group albums in hip-hop. It should of shown up.
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Post by: caTASHtrophe on August 08, 2005, 11:08:25 AM
bone thugs would never make the top 50..  those guys dont hold any weight to any of the albums already listed..

E.Eternal 1999 tosses up Dre 2001.
lmao the worst tracks on 2001 would´ve been the best tracks on E.Eternal..........

Now u being silly.

I don't care whether E.Eternal is in this top 50 or not but IMO E.eternal is way better than Dre 2001. Its a banger start to finish, production is amazing, Bone ripped that album to shreds and its consistent as a mutherphucker.

Dre 2001 starts of amazing and trails off half way through the album and gets weaker towards the end, the guests and tracks ain't consistent.
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Post by: Kill on August 08, 2005, 12:24:33 PM
2001 is, however, more important than E.Eternal and I doubt BTNH would pop up in the top 100 if I made a list...well, yeah, possibly, around no. 83 or something

Straight Outta CPT is classic and very influential, but I don´t see how it´s too low. I´d rather make it no. 10 than no. 6, tbh. Top 10 album yes, top 5 not for me either
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Post by: caTASHtrophe on August 08, 2005, 01:24:18 PM
2001 is, however, more important than E.Eternal and I doubt BTNH would pop up in the top 100 if I made a list...well, yeah, possibly, around no. 83 or something

Straight Outta CPT is classic and very influential, but I don´t see how it´s too low. I´d rather make it no. 10 than no. 6, tbh. Top 10 album yes, top 5 not for me either

That is possibly true but im comparing the albums musicaly not the influence or impact.

I would have slapped the Liks somewhere in the top 50 but oh well.

 :P
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Post by: Westcoastfanatic on August 08, 2005, 01:59:00 PM
A review with a downloadable album included?! Tight man. 8)