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Title: The Greatest 50 Hip-hop Albums Ever - #4...
Post by: Twentytwofifty on August 16, 2005, 11:20:28 AM
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993) 
(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf800/f860/f86028e1tkg.jpg) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=37BYBVIQ)

Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothin' ta fuck wit!
Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothin' ta fuck wit!
WU-TANG CLAN AIN'T NOTHIN' TA FUCK WIT!


    They sure weren't.  So dirty, they were clean.  So rugged, they were beautiful.  The Wu-Tang Clan may not have planned it that way, but that was the impact they had when they surprised the nation with Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers).  The theme was so strong and powerful it immediately captured the imagination of hip-hop heads everywhere - a clan of lethal rapping warriors whose versatile styles could attack you from every angle.  The album started out slowly, but word of mouth and continuing radio play for the singles accelerated the sales until millions of copies were sold and the industry veterans who missed the boat wondered where they went wrong.  Clean was out, dirty was in, and the Clan put their strong visual imagery and powerful lyrics right in your face.  The pendulum swung back in the opposite direction a few years later with Puff Daddy, but the mark had been set and the rap world hasn't been the same since.  Some people had their favorites right away - the loquacious GZA, the drunken Ol' Dirty Bastard, the charmingly gruff Method Man, and so on - but what made this album incredible was how they combined together.  It was the purest expression of gestalt - a sum whose whole was definitely greater than the total of the individual parts/rappers.

    From the album's introduction onward the tone is strongly set: "Do you think your Wu-Tang sword can defeat me?" declares the sample, and the group responds with both a challenge and a threat: "Bring Da Ruckus".  The single eerie whine in the background is quickly surplanted by a dark and moody piano chords, all of which are held together by the snapping fingers.  Even more powerful than this sonically haunting track is the pure venom displayed by the GZA when he says "My Wu-Tang slang is MAD FUCKIN DANGEROUS, and more deadly than the stroke of an axe."  Wow.  If you've never heard these deadly poetics, peep these verbals on the third verse from Inspectah Deck:

I rip it hardcore, like porno-flick bitches
I roll with groups of ghetto bastards with biscuits
Check it, my method on the microphone's bangin
Wu-Tang slang'll leave your headpiece hangin
Bust this, I'm kickin like Segall, Out for Justice
The roughness, yes, the rudeness, ruckus
Redrum, I verbally assault with the tongue
Murder one, my style shot ya knot like a stun-gun


    This was what heads all over were fiending for - a crew of brash rappers whose sword-sharp styles could slice up a track verbally.  RZA provided the filthiest nastiest beats in the industry, and his fellow Clan members ate them up like beans and rice.  Again and again the hits flow all over this album - the hilarious and raw "Shame On A Nigga" featuring Ol' Dirty Bastard, the brutal genius of GZA's solo "Clan In Da Front", with the best part is when he uses baseball as a metaphor for his skills -

I'm on the mound G,and it's a no-hitter,
and my DJ the catcher, he's my man ,
anyway he's the one who devised the plan,
he throws the signs I hook up the beats with clout,
I throw the rhymes to the mic and I strike em out,
so it really doesn't matter on how you intrigue,
you can't fuckwith those in the major leagues


    The lethal all-star combination of "Wu-Tang: 7th Chamber" where each Clan member seems to be trying to outspit the others with pure hotness - although Method Man's "I be that insane nigga from the psycho ward; I'm on the TRIGGAH, plus I got the Wu-Tang sword" verse may be the most memorable of all.  On "Tearz" both RZA and Ghostface tell tales of young men who took the wrong path in life - one by contracting AIDS, and the other by getting shot and killed needlessly. Some great storytelling that'll make you shiver over a fantastic beat.  "C.R.E.A.M." (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=37FJ2CP3) is probably the most famous song off the LP, and also the one that introduced the word cream into the rap lexicon.  Cream is money basically, and the acronym stands for Cash Rules Everything Around Me, as Method Man spits on the chorus.  RZA again keeps it simple with a great piano loop, letting his MC's do the work, which in this case involves telling tales of how money has played a huge part in their lives, due to their lack of it as they grew up.

    This album stands the test of time because the sound it created was so revolutionary, the imagery so vivid and powerful, and the lyricists were truly inspired by their first chance to shine in the world of rap.  They attacked with everything they had, and in so doing released an album of phenomenal hits: "Da Mystery Of Chessboxin'" (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=37QCGN6U), "Method Man", "C.R.E.A.M.", "Protect Ya Neck" and "Can It Be All So Simple" (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=37UQ8IKV).  They released an unprecedented number of singles and videos for one album, and every one was well received.  The album was so successful it garnered all of the individual members the freedom to record and release their own solo albums, and over the last decade we've been treated to gems by every member.

    Its spare yet atmospheric production mapped out the sonic blueprint (along with Black Moon's Enta Da Stage which was actually released in the same month) that countless other hardcore rappers would follow for years to come.  It laid the groundwork for the rebirth of New York hip-hop in the hardcore age, paving the way for everybody from Biggie to Capone-N-Noreaga to Nas to Mobb Deep not to mention the flood of Wu-Tang releases from the Clan members themselves or the off shoot.  Moreover, it introduced a colorful cast of hugely talented MCs, some of whom ranked among the best and most unique individual rappers of the decade.  Some were outsized, theatrical personalities, others were cerebral storytellers and lyrical technicians, but each had his own distinctive style, which made for an album of tremendous variety and consistency.  Every track on this album is packed with fresh, inventive rhymes, which are filled with martial arts metaphors, pop culture references, bizarre threats of violence, and a truly twisted sense of humor.  Their off-kilter menace is really brought to life, however, by the eerie, lo-fi production, which helped bring the raw sound of the underground into mainstream hip-hop.  Starting with a foundation of hard, gritty beats and dialogue samples from kung fu movies, RZA kept things minimalistic, but added just enough minor-key piano, strings, or muted horns to create a background ambience that works like the soundtrack to a surreal nightmare. 


50. Dr. Dre – 2001 (1999) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=73625.0)
49. Outkast – Southernplayalisticaddicmuzik (1994) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=73777.0)
48. Jay-Z – Reasonable Doubt (1996) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74040.0)
47. Kool G Rap & DJ Polo – Wanted: Dead Or Alive (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74218.0)
46. Redman – Whut? Thee Album (1992) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74531.0)
45. De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead (1991) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74834.0)
44. Fugees – The Score (1996) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=75061.0)
43. The D.O.C. – No One Can Do It Better (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=75381.0)
42. Common Sense - Resurrection (1994) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=75589.0)
41. Makaveli - The Don Kiluminati: The 7 Day Theory (1996) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=75939.0)
40. Public Enemy – Fear Of A Black Planet (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=76104.0)
39. Ice Cube – Death Certificate (1992) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=76728.0)
38. Gza/Genius - Liquid Swords (1995) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=77194.0)
37. N.W.A – Efil4zaggin (1991) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=77354.0)
36. Main Source – Breaking Atoms (1991) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=77548.0)
35. Geto Boys – Grip It! On That Other Level (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78193.0)
34. Brand Nubian – One For All (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78454.0)
33. Scarface – The Diary (1994) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78896.0)
32. Kool G Rap & DJ Polo – Road To The Riches (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78973.0)
31. Beastie Boys – Licensed To Ill (1986) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78994.0)
30. Ultramagnetic MC's – Critical Beatdown (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=79307.0)
29. LL Cool J – Radio (1985) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=79487.0)
28. 2Pac – All Eyez On Me (1996) (http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre700/e771/e771847607k.jpg)
27. Mobb Deep – The Infamous… (1995) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80115.0)
26. Eric B. & Rakim – Follow The Leader (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80302.0)
25. Big Daddy Kane – It’s A Big Daddy (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80735.0)
24. Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth – Mecca And The Soul Brother (1992) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80831.0)
23. Black Moon – Enta Da Stage (1993) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80894.0)
22. Outkast – Aquemini (1998) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81163.0)
21. A Tribe Called Quest – People’s Instinctive Travels And The Paths Of Rhythm (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81368.0)
20. Run-D.M.C. – Run-D.M.C. (1984) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81525.0)
19. Boogie Down Productions – By All Means Necessary (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81656.0)
18. Raekwon – Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… (1995) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81932.0)
17. De La Soul – 3 Feet High And Rising (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=82271.0)
16. Snoop Doggy Dogg – Doggystyle (1993) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=82438.0)
15. Ice Cube – AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=82573.0)
14. The Notorious B.I.G. – Ready To Die (1994) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=82790.0)
13. Run-D.M.C. – Raising Hell (1986) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=83190.0)
12. EPMD – Strictly Business (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=83544.0)
11. Big Daddy Kane – Long Live The Kane (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=83825.0)
10. A Tribe Called Quest – Midnight Marauders (1993) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=84076.0)
09. Boogie Down Productions – Criminal Minded (1987) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=84264.0)
08. N.W.A – Straight Outta Compton (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=84557.0)
07. Public Enemy – It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=84810.0)
06. A Tribe Called Quest – The Low End Theory (1991) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=85104.0)
05. Slick Rick – The Great Adventures Of Slick Rick (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=85409.0)
04. Wu-Tang Clan – Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (1993)
Title: Re: The Greatest 50 Hip-hop Albums Ever - #4...
Post by: wcsoldier on August 16, 2005, 11:27:41 AM
definetely a good spot. This album is RAW
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Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on August 16, 2005, 11:52:11 AM
Wu-Tang!!!Wu-Tang!!! ;D
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Post by: notorious^q8I on August 16, 2005, 02:28:13 PM
hmmm so top 3 spots are between the chronic illmatoc paid in full
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Post by: [sepehr] on August 16, 2005, 02:47:20 PM
I fuckin LOVE this album
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Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on August 16, 2005, 03:07:38 PM
I fuckin LOVE this album
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Post by: Kill on August 16, 2005, 03:14:46 PM
from now on, comments are superfluous...i´ll still say something, great spot, where i expected it to be and about where iot should be
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Post by: ImmortalOne on August 16, 2005, 05:14:47 PM
I can definatly see why someone would have this album in their top 5......its a mothafuckin classic and one of the most historically important albums ever. Fav tracks are a tie between CREAM and Wu Tang Aint Nothin to Fuck With.

Yet for how great this album is, it isnt my fav Wu related album:  I prefer Only Built 4 Cuban Linx and Wu Tang Forever as my two favs, in that order.
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Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on August 16, 2005, 07:25:01 PM
hip hop masterpiece
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Post by: Sofa_King_Awesome on August 16, 2005, 08:49:29 PM
Fuck this wigga/spick East Coast Dick Ride
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Post by: Minkaveli on August 16, 2005, 09:14:16 PM
classic
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Post by: Dynamic on August 16, 2005, 10:15:05 PM
hip hop masterpiece

wu tang aint nuthin to fuck wit
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Post by: Don Jacob on August 16, 2005, 10:18:01 PM
my favorite parts of the album are the ODMisms

 :'(

RIP
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Post by: RZARECTA on August 17, 2005, 02:34:00 AM
hip hop masterpiece

wu tang aint nuthin to fuck wit

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Post by: RZARECTA on August 17, 2005, 02:41:36 AM
HARD TO BEAT THIS ALBUM
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Post by: CHEF_RAEKWON on August 17, 2005, 03:58:27 AM
its gonna be paid in full>illmatic>chronic just like evry other "greatest hip hop list" you shoulda done you're favourite 50

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Post by: G funker on August 17, 2005, 04:15:50 AM
Most list R like this (Shady dicklicker)

1.All eyez on me
2.Marshall Mathers lp
3.GRODT

or (People who think they know the classics)

1.Straight outta Compton
2.Illmatic
3.The Blueprint
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Post by: Kill on August 17, 2005, 04:30:20 AM
Most list R like this (Shady dicklicker)

1.All eyez on me
2.Marshall Mathers lp
3.GRODT

lol, AEOM has been mentioned but if GRODT or MMLP popped up, I think I´d have some fun
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Post by: Diabolical on August 17, 2005, 06:26:35 AM
amazing album
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Post by: Da Flamboyant 1 on August 17, 2005, 12:38:53 PM
yo diz album is tight fo sho. cream is the tightest wu track. but yo man push up dem pac albums. make 1 of em top 10 man.
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Post by: Twentytwofifty on August 17, 2005, 12:42:11 PM
yo diz album is tight fo sho. cream is the tightest wu track. but yo man push up dem pac albums. make 1 of em top 10 man.

Good idea, I'll get right on that.
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Post by: Da Flamboyant 1 on August 17, 2005, 12:48:47 PM
good lookin homie. dont jus put albums up thats gone make ppl think u a hiphop head. put up shit that ppl actually like.
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Post by: Like A N!gga Say Do on August 17, 2005, 12:54:46 PM
^^ I think alot of people like it. What do you think is wrong with this list?
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Post by: Da Flamboyant 1 on August 17, 2005, 01:17:38 PM
dre 2001, doggystyle, the pac albums should be all higher up dawg. i mean fuck aquemini is better than all eyez on me on that wack ass list.
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Post by: eS El Duque on August 17, 2005, 06:54:59 PM
LOL...^^^who's alias?
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Post by: Kill on August 17, 2005, 06:59:54 PM
aquemini is better than all eyez on me

you´re right
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Post by: Kill on August 17, 2005, 07:06:28 PM
oh yeah, and where are

AMG - Bitch Betta Have My Money
Xzibit - Man vs. Machine
Snoop Dogg - Da Game Is To Be Sold...
Kurupt - Space Boogie
Richie Rich - Seasoned Veteran
South Central Cartel - N Gatz We Truss

fucc your east coast bias Knuckles
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Post by: Da Flamboyant 1 on August 17, 2005, 07:43:53 PM
nah nigga those albums dont belong on that list. eastcoast got way more dope albums but anyways my point was that doggystyle, 2001, aeom, and 7daytheory should be up higher. aquemini aint better than 2001, aeom, or 7day theory. thas bullshit.
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Post by: Kill on August 18, 2005, 05:23:43 AM
^ no
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Post by: Machiavelli on August 18, 2005, 06:33:43 AM
This album is a fucking classic. Hard to beat

36 Chambers>>>>>Illmatic
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Post by: Kill on August 18, 2005, 09:15:58 AM
^ no

...but that´s an opinion I bcan understand
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Post by: white Boy on August 18, 2005, 11:14:27 AM
this album is 1 of my favs
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Post by: Diabolical on August 18, 2005, 11:20:35 AM
AEOM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>God/Allah
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Post by: Don Breezio on August 18, 2005, 12:14:21 PM
good lookin homie. dont jus put albums up thats gone make ppl think u a hiphop head. put up shit that ppl actually like.

lmao...you think if people didnt llike these albums they would be considered classics? I love this shit....me and millions of other people
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Post by: Da Flamboyant 1 on August 18, 2005, 12:32:09 PM
ya nigga i be lovin these albums too they classics but i dont think aquemini is better than those pac albums or chronic 2001. thats sum outkast dickriding right there.
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Post by: PLANT on August 18, 2005, 12:55:24 PM
great album but I think its a bit high IMO
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Post by: RZARECTA on August 19, 2005, 12:12:42 AM
oh yeah, and where are

AMG - Bitch Betta Have My Money
Xzibit - Man vs. Machine
Snoop Dogg - Da Game Is To Be Sold...
Kurupt - Space Boogie
Richie Rich - Seasoned Veteran
South Central Cartel - N Gatz We Truss

fucc your east coast bias Knuckles
now that was just fuckin ridiculous
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Post by: Elevz on August 19, 2005, 04:32:45 PM
oh yeah, and where are

AMG - Bitch Betta Have My Money
Xzibit - Man vs. Machine
Snoop Dogg - Da Game Is To Be Sold...
Kurupt - Space Boogie
Richie Rich - Seasoned Veteran
South Central Cartel - N Gatz We Truss

fucc your east coast bias Knuckles
now that was just fuckin ridiculous
now that's what they call sarcasm, in case you missed it.

But really, it scares me to see how much I agree with Knuckles on how he's ordered all of those albums. Everything seems to me as if it's been put almost perfectly in the right place, especially in the top20. And quit whining about how none of the 2Pac albums made it into the top 20. Maybe them albums just weren't as great as all of you 2Pac fans make them out to be?
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Post by: Kill on August 20, 2005, 06:03:15 AM
oh yeah, and where are

AMG - Bitch Betta Have My Money
Xzibit - Man vs. Machine
Snoop Dogg - Da Game Is To Be Sold...
Kurupt - Space Boogie
Richie Rich - Seasoned Veteran
South Central Cartel - N Gatz We Truss

fucc your east coast bias Knuckles
now that was just fuckin ridiculous
now that's what they call sarcasm, in case you missed it.
thank you. really, it scares me to see how much of a risk I take being sarcastic. I thought that by mentioning one of the most infamously wack albums in hiphop ever I would make the point impossible to miss...oh well

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But really, it scares me to see how much I agree with Knuckles on how he's ordered all of those albums. Everything seems to me as if it's been put almost perfectly in the right place, especially in the top20. And quit whining about how none of the 2Pac albums made it into the top 20. Maybe them albums just weren't as great as all of you 2Pac fans make them out to be?
co-sign. Except for 2 albums he didn´t mention (I´ll bitch when the list is done), I´m not mad at him for anything and I pretty much agree with almost all the spots