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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 12:01:07 AM

Title: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 12:01:07 AM
On May Bank Holiday monday (next week) I'm hoping to make some pretty big changes to the forum.

This will mean some downtime.

I will be doing the following...(and some more) get your voice heard now.

1) Board will be (backed up then) upgraded from YaBB 1 Gold SP1 to YaBB 1 Gold SP 1.1

2) Technique and Unsigned Hype will be merged.

3) Some other forums will be renamed or moved, but essentially remain the same.

5) Fantasy label and Key Style battle league will be removed. Since i'm not a key styler i don't know whats going on with the other key style forums. If a change is required explain why here.

6) A 'sports' forum will be added to the Social section. (oops.. theres another teaser  ;) )

7) ANYONE who msgs/emails me or comes on IRC asking why the board is down during this process will gain an instant and permanent ban for idiocy *do not piss me off when i'm working*

If you have any suggestions NOW is your chance.

p.s. NO moderators will be chosen for the new sections.
Anyone who tries to petition me for a mod position will NEVER be a mod.
Mod's will be chosen at a later date of my choosing (and as people know.. thats pretty random). ohh and there *may* be something pretty controversial happening :o

Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Maestro Minded on May 01, 2002, 12:04:41 AM
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2) Technique and Unsigned Hype will be merged.

finnaly.. i was telling that all the time

can u make me mod for... lol.. nah.. just playing.. ;)

but hey.. not that i like to post eastcoast news or something.. but you should also consider making a eastcoast section for them other guy's who gets their threads locked when posting east-related stuff

Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Maestro Minded on May 01, 2002, 12:05:11 AM
and u should definatly change the board colors... i never liked theese
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 12:06:08 AM
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and u should definatly change the board colors... i never liked theese


not during this update.. but maybe in the future.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on May 01, 2002, 12:08:11 AM
You know my suggestion  ;D

'General Hip-Hop' Forum;
Or you could like murge the 'Anything Goes' section to include 'General' hip-hop topics also. You wouldn't have to rename it or anything, just display 'general hip-hop' topics in the description underneath. That way no east/south related topics would appear in here & you won't have to constantly delete & close ones that do  :)
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: KVB on May 01, 2002, 12:09:49 AM
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but hey.. not that i like to post eastcoast news or something.. but you should also consider making a eastcoast section for them other guy's who gets their threads locked when posting east-related stuff



I definitely support that.. how about a General Hip-Hop Discussion board... in that way you could keep the main forum 100 % westcoast.. Overseer I basically agree with everything else, peace
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 12:12:35 AM
I've got a little plan here that i'm doodling on.

'General HipHop' WAS down with a question mark next to it (along with a few other things).

I will concede and put one up.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on May 01, 2002, 12:21:02 AM
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I've got a little plan here that i'm doodling on.

'General HipHop' WAS down with a question mark next to it (along with a few other things).

I will concede and put one up.


The main reason why I think a 'general hip-hop' is a good idea is because even though this is first & foremost a westcoast site, which I respect, it still packs alot of the big news stories etc from all the other coasts which is an advantage I think, because not only does that mean we don't have to fish around but this site isn't as biased to one coast as say SOHH is & thats one of the main reasons I love this place, we're all open minded to hip-hop as a whole here.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Tito on May 01, 2002, 12:24:18 AM
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The main reason why I think a 'general hip-hop' is a good idea is because even though this is first & foremost a westcoast site, which I respect, it still packs alot of the big news stories etc from all the other coasts which is an advantage I think, because not only does that mean we don't have to fish around but this site isn't as biased to one coast as say SOHH is & thats one of the main reasons I love this place, we're all open minded to hip-hop as a whole here.

Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: ExZit on May 01, 2002, 12:28:10 AM
cool shit..  

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5) Fantasy label and Key Style battle league will be removed. Since i'm not a key styler i don't know whats going on with the other key style forums. If a change is required explain why here.


3 key style forums is too much  :-/



when will the board be up again?
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 12:28:19 AM
its up now  ;D
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: ExZit on May 01, 2002, 12:50:08 AM
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Posted by: Overseer Posted on: Today at 05:28:19
its up now    


umm... ???

how long will the board be down?  ;)
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 12:58:30 AM
i meant the non-westcoast bit.

I suspect the changes will take about 4/5 hours.

Quite a bit of that will be due to the backing up. since it takes a while to download it all.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Rud on May 01, 2002, 05:01:28 AM
Hehe - Damn You For Making Me Wait Till I Got Home To Read This!  ;)

Some Good Ideas There - All The Changes Seem OK  ;D

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ohh and there *may* be something pretty controversial happening  


Oooooooooooh - It Better Not Be What I Think It Is.....You Cant Be Making 'Myrealname' Admin!!

;)
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 05:28:32 AM
well.. he might have 'paid the cost'... like ;) haha

damn.. your guess is scary...
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Rud on May 01, 2002, 05:39:10 AM
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damn.. your guess is scary...


Muhahahahahaha

I Have Overseen The Overseer

;)
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 06:05:44 AM
haha not totally.. i hope.. won't be a surprise then  ;D



btw ... ppl please peep this post...

http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=outbound;action=display;num=1020268724
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: bez on May 01, 2002, 07:24:55 AM
I agree with the changes overseer.  I peeped the post, I dont really understand tho.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: bLaDe on May 01, 2002, 07:28:09 AM
Tight! but sumthings gotta happen to Key Style Battle League forum, its kinda dead now  :-/

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: HHH on May 01, 2002, 07:37:31 AM
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Muhahahahahaha

I Have Overseen The Overseer

;)


LOL  ;D

NICE ONE BIG O !!
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: ROCCY on May 01, 2002, 09:10:43 AM
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On May Bank Holiday monday (next week)

Fantasy label and Key Style battle league will be removed.





No...Dont move the keystyle...its tite....unless ur gonna make a new one?
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Hittman on May 01, 2002, 09:15:54 AM
Question - Will The Key Style Boards Be Changed To What I Was Talking To You A Few Days Ago?
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 09:35:05 AM
i don't really know  what would suit u guys best since i'm not a key styler myself.

the WCCBL forum isn't running .. so thats going........... discuss what u think should happen
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: KVB on May 01, 2002, 10:48:00 AM
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i don't really know  what would suit u guys best since i'm not a key styler myself.

the WCCBL forum isn't running .. so thats going........... discuss what u think should happen


I think the WCCBL should be turned into a Battle Board.

One
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Hittman on May 01, 2002, 11:07:04 AM
Keystyle Forum

Post Your Freestyles And Writtens Up. Call Out Opponents For Battles

Keystyle Battle Board

Name Vs. Name Keystyle Battles Only.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 11:26:07 AM
ok so basically all that needs to be done is to rename the battle champs board and change the description for that and the old key style board.. sounds good.

remember folx... we don't want to overload the forum with too many sections.. look at his as a (late) spring clean
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Hittman on May 01, 2002, 11:32:03 AM

Exactly!  ;D

Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: AxleF on May 01, 2002, 11:35:12 AM
Coo.. cant wait for all the changes.  I agree with you O'seer!

Ax
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Doggystylin on May 01, 2002, 11:59:27 AM
i have a shitload of ideas ;D
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Tha_Reverend on May 01, 2002, 12:11:37 PM
Controversial huh? HMMMMMMMMMM...  Maybe a "BEEF" forum?  so peeps don't flood tha main one wit petty beefs?  You should call it "THA RING".  LOL.




PEACE
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: ROCCY on May 01, 2002, 01:00:14 PM
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link=board=general;num=1020247267;start=20#24 date=05/01/02 at 16:07:04]Keystyle Forum

Post Your Freestyles And Writtens Up. Call Out Opponents For Battles

Keystyle Battle Board

Name Vs. Name Keystyle Battles Only.


Perfect, good Idea Lugic
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: .:R-E-L:. on May 01, 2002, 01:19:28 PM
I agree w/ logic

but also...



Alot of the bigger keystylers have been complaining about newbies takin up all the space, so therefore a newbie board should b formed....
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: techniec on May 01, 2002, 02:39:26 PM
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7) ANYONE who msgs/emails me or comes on IRC asking why the board is down during this process will gain an instant and permanent ban for idiocy *do not piss me off when i'm working*




LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: G2ThaV on May 01, 2002, 05:01:35 PM

Sounds Good ! :)
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Doggystylin on May 01, 2002, 05:41:22 PM
oh shit! i guess overseer really meant it cause tech is gone, lmao. damn tech got fucked in a second, R.I.P....
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: DreSnoop00 on May 01, 2002, 06:01:25 PM
thats cool about the changes of the board. chanegs are always cool. as for keystyle. altho i dont keystyle. just do whatever al lthe keystylers feel. maybe change the sections a little or something like what logic said
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: ROCCY on May 01, 2002, 06:37:52 PM
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oh shit! i guess overseer really meant it cause tech is gone, lmao. damn tech got fucked in a second, R.I.P....



Oh shit are u serious? sucks..! RIP
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on May 01, 2002, 08:41:45 PM
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remember folx... we don't want to overload the forum with too many sections.. look at his as a (late) spring clean



If it's like that.. I dont see why we need a West Coast Section and a General Hip Hop section.  I mean, we're all Hip Hop fans... We can all respect what other's like. I know it's MEANT to be a West Coast Board and that's not gonna change just because you got alot of East Coast topics. I mean, No matter how many East Coast topics there are, It's alwayz gonna be the WEST COAST CONNECTION.. most the people that come here are West Coast fans.

I dont know... just sucks for people who like all kinds of Rap Music. Too much board traveling. It looks like you already made up your mind though.. you already got that General Hip Hop Section going.. I just really dont understand why it's necessary.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 09:05:10 PM
yo... aint done shit to Techniec!!
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 11:16:42 PM
Ok.. as things stand.. this is how its going to look when i'm done


1) Main section 'dubcc'
- West Coast Connection Forum
- 411 - The Connection
- Outbound Connections
2) Social Forum (needs a better name)
- Anything Goes
- Sports and Entertainment Forum (sports and movies)
- the 'god' forum (hall of mirrors)
3) Rhyme skillz
- Key Style
- Key Style Battle Board
4) Other
- Technique / Unsigned Hype merger (new name?)
- The Vault
- Album Review




Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Rud on May 01, 2002, 11:28:03 PM
Lest We Forget The Swap Meet!  ;)
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: tuwac_shakur on May 01, 2002, 11:35:38 PM
yo overseer did you move my jadakiss thread over to the other forum?
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 11:37:21 PM
have a look  ::)

whenever a thread is moved it leaves a 'locked' thread in its place,and a link to the threads new location. it also says who moved it.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2002, 11:39:10 PM
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Lest We Forget The Swap Meet!  ;)

oops... good spot lil seer

1) Main section 'dubcc'  
- West Coast Connection Forum
- 411 - The Connection
- Outbound Connections
2) Social Forum (needs a better name)
- Anything Goes
- Sports and Entertainment Forum (sports and movies)
- the 'god' forum (hall of mirrors)
3) Rhyme skillz
- Key Style
- Key Style Battle Board
4) Other
- Swap Meet
- Technique / Unsigned Hype merger (new name?)
- The Vault
- Album Review


Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Rud on May 02, 2002, 12:04:32 AM
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oops... good spot lil seer


Muhaha

*Best Luke Voice* "You Have Taught Me Well Master I Feel I Am Ready For The Trials"

*Seer's Best Obi Wan Voice* "You Have Much Left To Learn!"

;)

Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 02, 2002, 01:06:58 AM
(http://forum.igangsta.com/obiwcc.jpg)

wow i should grow a beard!
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Rud on May 02, 2002, 01:18:51 AM
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(http://forum.igangsta.com/obiwcc.jpg)

wow i should grow a beard!


ROFL! - Its Like Lookin In The Mirror!  :o

;D
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: tuwac_shakur on May 02, 2002, 02:19:16 AM
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have a look  ::)

whenever a thread is moved it leaves a 'locked' thread in its place,and a link to the threads new location. it also says who moved it.


i hasnt got a link on it. sort it out gangsta, it's on page 6
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 02, 2002, 03:13:13 AM
ahh right.. this happened before my little cleanup mission. will move it.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: KVB on May 02, 2002, 05:46:03 AM
Seeing as 411-The Connection is really:

Album Preview

maybe you could connect/merge it with

Album Review

in some way... just a suggestion, peace
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: bez on May 02, 2002, 06:08:37 AM
Cool.....LOL......LOL....LOL at seer and rud.  LOL
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Hittman on May 02, 2002, 07:46:20 AM
IMO, The Unsigned Hype / Technique Forum Should Be Called "Open Mic" And Be Under The Rhyme Skillz Section, Not Other.

;D
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Murrow on May 02, 2002, 08:53:11 AM
Just let me say one thing:


Please leave the 411 section alone.  I have worked very hard on keeping up to date news on almost every album.  Any news I see I post it there.  I also keep track of the release dates.

I'm the only one who moderates there anyway, no one else helps.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 02, 2002, 09:00:33 AM
yeah man its not moving a bit... plus mod's arent changing for anything.. new mods for the new forums will come.

the preview/review thing looks good on paper.. but in reality its dyin. preview (411) will remain 'as is'.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 02, 2002, 09:01:36 AM
ohh and i betta add that nothings being deleted either.. just reorganise (excluding wccbl and fantasy forum which will be nuked (altho i'll have a backup)).
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Rud on May 02, 2002, 09:08:27 AM
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Just let me say one thing:

I'm the only one who moderates there anyway, no one else helps.


Thats Not True, I Always Keep An Eye On That Board And Tidy New Untidied Threads Into The Same Format We Use Normally

Most Are Done OK These Days Or You Get There First, Other Than That Little Moderation Is Needed


peace
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: KVB on May 02, 2002, 09:19:23 AM
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yeah man its not moving a bit... plus mod's arent changing for anything.. new mods for the new forums will come.

the preview/review thing looks good on paper.. but in reality its dyin. preview (411) will remain 'as is'.


Yeah that's cool... but something should be done with the Album Review board... it's not very "lively", if you know what I mean... and it's a shame, anway I'm not telling you to do anything, just notifying you about it. One.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Doggystylin on May 02, 2002, 11:29:19 AM
i like the album review section, and what happened to having 3 keystyle boards? 1 for spitting 2 for tournaments and 3 for battles(VS style)
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Hittman on May 02, 2002, 11:30:41 AM
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link=board=general;num=1020247267;start=40#51 date=05/02/02 at 12:46:20]IMO, The Unsigned Hype / Technique Forum Should Be Called "Open Mic" And Be Under The Rhyme Skillz Section, Not Other.

;D


What You Think Overseer?
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 02, 2002, 11:45:20 AM
i was thinking about 'The Lab' or 'Workshop' .. something like that.. since its supposed to be about showcasing and picking up tips on "real" things done outside crafting rhymes.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 02, 2002, 11:50:16 AM
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i like the album review section, and what happened to having 3 keystyle boards? 1 for spitting 2 for tournaments and 3 for battles(VS style)


WCCBL seems to have crashed and burned.... the spit forums will be changed to match logics descriptions above... it lays a bit more structure over what was previously there, since before there wasn't really.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Hittman on May 02, 2002, 11:52:44 AM
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i was thinking about 'The Lab' or 'Workshop' .. something like that.. since its supposed to be about showcasing and picking up tips on "real" things done outside crafting rhymes.


That Sounds Fine. The Lab Is Doper Then Workshop Though. Infact The Lab Has A Nice Ring To It....

;D
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Murrow on May 02, 2002, 12:17:28 PM
Thanks Overseer.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Jome on May 02, 2002, 02:54:39 PM
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fantasy forum which will be nuked




:-[ :-[
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Smooth on May 02, 2002, 05:30:12 PM
Sounds very dope... can't wait for all the changes
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on May 03, 2002, 03:16:43 AM
This place gets doper every day  ;D
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 03, 2002, 03:26:33 AM
btw. the cat is outta the bag about the surpriose... brought it forwards.. read here.


http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1020431599


Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: KVB on May 03, 2002, 03:46:45 AM
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link=board=general;num=1020247267;start=60#61 date=05/02/02 at 16:52:44]

That Sounds Fine. The Lab Is Doper Then Workshop Though. Infact The Lab Has A Nice Ring To It....

;D


Yeah, "The Workshop" sounds out of place...like a blacksmith's workshop, while "The Lab" has more of a hip-hop feeling to it... like a recording studio where dope tracks are made... it's the perfect name IMO, I vote for "The Lab"

One
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Big BpG on May 04, 2002, 08:18:42 AM
What about the "Big BpG" board... you promised that to me... remember! The board where all the bitches come to MY BOARD to post their numbers, names and their nudie pics... we could  work in a partnership Seer... split the money 50/50... we gotta get this online pimp game going... and I know Axle and Jay are up for that... spreading love around is what we do...

-Big BpG

:)
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 04, 2002, 08:21:36 AM
whut u got axle and jay lined up as hoes? daaamn... u pimpin strong homie!
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on May 04, 2002, 08:23:07 AM
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whut u got axle and jay lined up as hoes? daaamn... u pimpin strong homie!


;D ;D
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Hittman on May 05, 2002, 11:24:46 AM
"Your old man is your dad
The studio is the lab and heated is mad" Big L - "Ebonics"

;D
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 05, 2002, 12:47:47 PM
I'm likin' this alot. Especially merging some forums and just getting rid of the useless ones.

The whole WCCBL was kinda silly in my opinion.

I can't wait to see the changes on Monday.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 05, 2002, 12:48:17 PM
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What about the "Big BpG" board... you promised that to me... remember! The board where all the bitches come to MY BOARD to post their numbers, names and their nudie pics... we could  work in a partnership Seer... split the money 50/50... we gotta get this online pimp game going... and I know Axle and Jay are up for that... spreading love around is what we do...

-Big BpG

:)



Yea, with picuters of your ass posted all over the board...The ones you take and post up on sites...LoL



Anyways, this is how I see it as dope...(Just my opinion)...LoL

1) Main section    
- West Coast Connection Forum  
- 411-The Connection  
- Outband Connections

2) Discusions
- Anything Goes  
- Hall Of Mirrors
(A sports and Entertainment board is bad IMO, because that will take away a lot from anything goes)

3) Rhyme Skillz  
- Key Style  
- Key Style Battle Board
- Open Mic (now known as Unsigned Hype)  

4) Other  
- Swap Meet
- The Vault  
- Album Review  
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 05, 2002, 12:52:38 PM
sports forum is coming esp. with the world cup.

i'll go with moving 'the lab' (unsigned hype AND technique) up to the 'skillz' section.

this gives nice symettry.. 3+3+3+3

lookin goooooooood  ;D
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Murrow on May 05, 2002, 02:18:17 PM
Ehh, a sports forum isn't needed in my opinion, like NIK said it is really a part of Anything Goes.
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Doggystylin on May 05, 2002, 02:22:50 PM
naw i think we need one, yall must be blind there are so many sport related threads in anything goes, all the wrestling threads, and now the nba playoffs, and then the world cup is comin, so yeah we need one, anything goes can be used for many other things, dont worry, it will still get its posts
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Suga Foot on May 05, 2002, 02:59:11 PM
In the little write up about 'The Vault' is says "Credits, Lyrics & Tracklist Information for Unreleased Tracks, Albums and Projects"  

Could it possibly be channged to:

"Samples, Credits, Lyrics, & Tracklist Information for Unreleased Tracks, Albums and Projects"  

Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Jome on May 05, 2002, 04:21:40 PM
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In the little write up about 'The Vault' is says "Credits, Lyrics & Tracklist Information for Unreleased Tracks, Albums and Projects"  

Could it possibly be channged to:

"Samples, Credits, Lyrics, & Tracklist Information for Unreleased Tracks, Albums and Projects"  

Thanks  ;D


Youz a sampling-freak!
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: bLaDe on May 05, 2002, 05:46:26 PM
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Ehh, a sports forum isn't needed in my opinion, like NIK said it is really a part of Anything Goes.


w0rd

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Suga Foot on May 05, 2002, 07:15:55 PM
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Youz a sampling-freak!


Pleazbaleiveit!   ;)
Title: Re: Forum changes coming....
Post by: Don Seer on May 06, 2002, 12:53:38 AM
all done.  ;D