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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Gotti......Xl on September 09, 2005, 07:28:35 PM
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Lebron
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lebron
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MORONS
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why do people ask these questions?
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Wait another season and see what happens 8)
1st year: compared to C. Anthony
2nd year: compared to Kobe
3rd year: 8)
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Lebron
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why do people ask these questions?
to start arguments....why else would u ask it, when its been brought up like 10 times lol
Kind of funny to ask the question, and then get mad when every single non Laker fan comes in and picks Lebron.
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until lebron gets some rings... i'm going with kobe. i don't care if it's because he had shaq or not. having rings does a lot for your repuation. the only difference between joe montana and dan marino is rings.
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How the fuck can yall compare lebron and Kobe?Show some damn respect for Kobe the man can ball and has always been cluch ALWAYS.Lebron is really good but he is not in Kobe level.Lebron doesnt even have a fucking consitant jumper or any 3's.As of right now Kobe is by far the better baller and i personally cannot see Lebron being better then Kobe at all.
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until lebron gets some rings... i'm going with kobe. i don't care if it's because he had shaq or not. having rings does a lot for your repuation. the only difference between joe montana and dan marino is rings.
Word.
Kobe got the rings. Lebron is great but come on now. People are just hating on Kobe.
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until lebron gets some rings... i'm going with kobe. i don't care if it's because he had shaq or not. having rings does a lot for your repuation. the only difference between joe montana and dan marino is rings.
bad comparison though. theres a ton of differences between Marino and Montana. Marino is by far the better QB, and he didnt have the rings. Montana was great, but he also benifited a LOT by an overall amazing offense....not to mention playing most of his career with the greatest receiver of all time running routes.
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Right now i'd say Kobe is better but King James definatily the potential to become more better which i have no doubt in my mind that he will
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How the fuck can yall compare lebron and Kobe?Show some damn respect for Kobe the man can ball and has always been cluch ALWAYS.Lebron is really good but he is not in Kobe level.Lebron doesnt even have a fucking consitant jumper or any 3's.As of right now Kobe is by far the better baller and i personally cannot see Lebron being better then Kobe at all.
In fact, LeBron isn't worse than Kobe when it comes to shooting 3s, and his overall % is better, which includes jumpers.
Fuck a ring, it ain't a thing if you got the right team. Ask Horry.
At the end of the day Horry prolly has 8 rings, and there's no doubt that he's been a fuckin clutch factor. I guess this makes him better than Malone.
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Statistically, last year Lebron had a better overall year than Kobe
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LMFAO...This board is so hilarious.
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LMFAO...This board is so hilarious.
thats kinda what the rest of us were thinkin about the Kobe dickriders ;)
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Fuck a ring,
you can't be that dumb :grumpy:
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LMFAO...This board is so hilarious.
thats kinda what the rest of us were thinkin about the Kobe dickriders ;)
this is a wastcoast rap messege board therefore there's going to be Laker/kobe fans you fucking moron :grumpy:
how do you not expect us to have the back for a guy that brought 3 straight championships to L.A you dumb ass :grumpy:
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until lebron gets some rings... i'm going with kobe. i don't care if it's because he had shaq or not. having rings does a lot for your repuation. the only difference between joe montana and dan marino is rings.
bad comparison though. theres a ton of differences between Marino and Montana. Marino is by far the better QB, and he didnt have the rings. Montana was great, but he also benifited a LOT by an overall amazing offense....not to mention playing most of his career with the greatest receiver of all time running routes.
that's a good point but if you ask a lot of people... especially in california, they'll go with montana as being the better qb. why? because of the rings. that's exactly what i was saying about kobe and lebron.
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LMFAO...This board is so hilarious.
thats kinda what the rest of us were thinkin about the Kobe dickriders ;)
this is a wastcoast rap messege board therefore there's going to be Laker/kobe fans you fucking moron :grumpy:
how do you not expect us to have the back for a guy that brought 3 straight championships to L.A you dumb ass :grumpy:
Ever heard of Shaq? Damn, that was too easy.
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LMFAO...This board is so hilarious.
thats kinda what the rest of us were thinkin about the Kobe dickriders ;)
this is a wastcoast rap messege board therefore there's going to be Laker/kobe fans you fucking moron :grumpy:
how do you not expect us to have the back for a guy that brought 3 straight championships to L.A you dumb ass :grumpy:
Ever heard of Shaq? Damn, that was too easy.
ever heard of kobe? ain't you from Europe :laugh: what you know about b-ball ??? you're one of this brai wash faggots that actually believes shaq was the soul reason for those championships...only faggots will take away from a nother mans hard work..and that's what you're doing when you say it was all shaq and kobe had nothing to do with it
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if there was one shot left in the game i'd give the ball to kobe...hes clutch
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LMFAO...This board is so hilarious.
thats kinda what the rest of us were thinkin about the Kobe dickriders ;)
this is a wastcoast rap messege board therefore there's going to be Laker/kobe fans you fucking moron :grumpy:
how do you not expect us to have the back for a guy that brought 3 straight championships to L.A you dumb ass :grumpy:
Ever heard of Shaq? Damn, that was too easy.
ever heard of kobe? ain't you from Europe :laugh: what you know about b-ball ??? you're one of this brai wash faggots that actually believes shaq was the soul reason for those championships...only faggots will take away from a nother mans hard work..and that's what you're doing when you say it was all shaq and kobe had nothing to do with it
Replace Kobe with Bron and Lakers still woulda won 3 titles in 6 years. Replace Shaq with Z and Lakers wouldnt have won shit. Good call pullin the where-you-from-card, just so you know, Im also white so yeah I can't know anything about bball.
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KOBE 3 TITLES AND many incredibles 4 quarters, LEBRON NO PLAYOFF. You can argue about Kobe had Shaq and blah blah blah but it wouldn't make sense so close this thread
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Those 3 rings are a team dependent achievement. Please, stop using that arguement in saying what player is better. A lot of factors go into a team winning it all, all baskbetball fans should know this.
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Those 3 rings are a team dependent achievement. Please, stop using that arguement in saying what player is better. A lot of factors go into a team winning it all, all baskbetball fans should know this.
maybe but personal statistics are relevant to a certain extent too so what arguments do we have to use? James is a great player who hasn't won yet, Kobe is a great player who has already won. When McGrady was asked (when he played with the Magic) who was the best between him and Kobe ; he answered : Kobe has 3 titles ...
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Personal statistics is what it is. Personal. One Player. It cant get any better than that to evaluate a player.
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Replace Kobe with Bron and Lakers still woulda won 3 titles in 6 years. Replace Shaq with Z and Lakers wouldnt have won shit. Good call pullin the where-you-from-card, just so you know, Im also white so yeah I can't know anything about bball.
And you know that for a fact?..how do you know when Lebron gets to the playoffs he's going to be clutch like kobe and jordan?..you're a fucking moron not to be taken seriously..
And i agree with javier that it takes a team to win a championship..but these kobe haters are fucking morons sayin that it was all shaq and kobe had nothing to do with it..he was a big part of that team and he won and didn't choke therefore he's also responsible for those championships...to say "oh well if it was lebron or Tmac they would of won 3 straight championships" how do you know that?...d.wade just went 0-6 0 points in the 4rth quarter,choked away a 4 point lead with 2 minutes left in game 7 of the ECF @ home...where's the championship?..that fool choked
kobe helped his team come back from 13 points w/ 9:30 left in the 4rth quarter game 7 of the WCF against the blazers...their's a big difference
from that and what d.wade went through & also helped his team win game 7 against the kings in that crazy fucking arena and plaid like jordan the year we sweapt the west and plaid great when we returned to the finals in 2004..kobe didn't choked
penny didn't do shit with shaq..
T-mac has been bounce of the 1rst round 5 straight years=choker
Lebron hasn't done shit..how do you know he's going to be clutch like kobe and jordan once lebron gets to the playoffs? you're just guessing...kobe has proven he's clutch and mentaly tough
vince carter=choker
dwane wade=choker
there's alot of talented guards in the NBA that doesn't mean they are clutch/mentaly tough like kobe
i swear man..you guys are fucking morons..show some fucking respect you made bitch faggots...the more succesful you are the more people hate on you
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LMFAO...This board is so hilarious.
thats kinda what the rest of us were thinkin about the Kobe dickriders ;)
this is a wastcoast rap messege board therefore there's going to be Laker/kobe fans you fucking moron :grumpy:
how do you not expect us to have the back for a guy that brought 3 straight championships to L.A you dumb ass :grumpy:
Ever heard of Shaq? Damn, that was too easy.
ever heard of kobe? ain't you from Europe :laugh: what you know about b-ball ??? you're one of this brai wash faggots that actually believes shaq was the soul reason for those championships...only faggots will take away from a nother mans hard work..and that's what you're doing when you say it was all shaq and kobe had nothing to do with it
Replace Kobe with Bron and Lakers still woulda won 3 titles in 6 years. Replace Shaq with Z and Lakers wouldnt have won shit. Good call pullin the where-you-from-card, just so you know, Im also white so yeah I can't know anything about bball.
LMFAO...Lets see. Penny + Shaq...nope. Nick Van Exel/Eddie Jones + Shaq...nope. Dwayne Wade + Shaq...nope. Kobe + Shaq...YES SIR!!! Your comment makes no sense, Kobe ran most of the offense and was on the NBA all defensive 1st team basically most of his career...Shaq contributed a lot. Shaq was great during the 3peat years. But Hakeem in his prime woulda' done it. Kareem in his prime woulda' done it. D Robinson in his prime woulda' done it. Hell, even Ewing in his prime woulda' done it...Kobe is a lot greater than any of you morons can really see. Only time will prove me right, once again...PeACe
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Lets not forget Phil Jackson
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Lets not forget Phil Jackson
Of course...
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KOBE 3 TITLES AND many incredibles 4 quarters, LEBRON NO PLAYOFF. You can argue about Kobe had Shaq and blah blah blah but it wouldn't make sense so close this thread
KOBE NO PLAYOFF EITHER last year
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LMFAO...This board is so hilarious.
thats kinda what the rest of us were thinkin about the Kobe dickriders ;)
this is a wastcoast rap messege board therefore there's going to be Laker/kobe fans you fucking moron :grumpy:
how do you not expect us to have the back for a guy that brought 3 straight championships to L.A you dumb ass :grumpy:
so u support Shaq?
try to understand the posts before u respond or else youll just look stupid, like now...again. what every non laker fan laughs at you guys about...is the fact that you think the world is crazy when they dont agree with u lol. but if the world was to agree with u, u use that as a basis for your argument.
Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....and everyone else will say Lebron. Rings mean shit for an individual player, as has been said by someone else here. U guys trying to compare a player like Lebron to Kobe and saying Kobe is better because of rings is stupid. Lebron hasnt been in the league long enough to win the amount of rings that Kobe was handed due to Shaq lol. So quit trying to use that argument. And if you want to use it, then we should NEVER again hear a comparison of Kobe to Jordan....or Pippen for that matter.
Kobe=Sidekick ;) Shaq was Batman, Kobe was Robbin....deal with it, and move on.
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....and everyone else will say Lebron.
LMFAOOOOOO!! Are you kidding me? You're saying only Kobe dickriders think Kobe is better than LeBron? LOLLLL ROFLMAO...You know how many people I know who don't even like Kobe whatsoever that will laugh at people claiming LeBron is better? Your whole statement is a joke...LMAOOOO.
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....and everyone else will say Lebron.
LMFAOOOOOO!! Are you kidding me? You're saying only Kobe dickriders think Kobe is better than LeBron? LOLLLL ROFLMAO...You know how many people I know who don't even like Kobe whatsoever that will laugh at people claiming LeBron is better? Your whole statement is a joke...LMAOOOO.
What was that? i couldnt hear you with Kobe's Dick So Far Down Your Throat.....Your On Kobe's Dick So Hard I'd Swear You were a White Girl from Colorado waiting to get raped
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Kobe=Sidekick ;) Shaq was Batman, Kobe was Robbin....deal with it, and move on.
see what i mean..only faggots take away from a nother mans hard work
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....and everyone else will say Lebron.
LMFAOOOOOO!! Are you kidding me? You're saying only Kobe dickriders think Kobe is better than LeBron? LOLLLL ROFLMAO...You know how many people I know who don't even like Kobe whatsoever that will laugh at people claiming LeBron is better? Your whole statement is a joke...LMAOOOO.
What was that? i couldnt hear you with Kobe's Dick So Far Down Your Throat.....Your On Kobe's Dick So Hard I'd Swear You were a White Girl from Colorado waiting to get raped
calm down bitter clipper fan :laugh:...don't be mad you guys are a disgrace to L.A
i swear man you guys are fucking morons..it's so fucking pathetic :loser: :grumpy:
how can you say "Lebronze" ;) is better then kobe ??? :grumpy: WOW! WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY
LET LEBRONZE PLAY A PLAYOFF MINUTE WIN A PLAYOOF GAME.advance to the 2nd round..win some championships then compare him to kobe
and yes it is ok to compare kobe to jordan...they both won 3 straight championships and like it or notthey both have almost the same skill level..obvious jordan was better but kobe's career is not over yet
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....and everyone else will say Lebron.
LMFAOOOOOO!! Are you kidding me? You're saying only Kobe dickriders think Kobe is better than LeBron? LOLLLL ROFLMAO...You know how many people I know who don't even like Kobe whatsoever that will laugh at people claiming LeBron is better? Your whole statement is a joke...LMAOOOO.
What was that? i couldnt hear you with Kobe's Dick So Far Down Your Throat.....Your On Kobe's Dick So Hard I'd Swear You were a White Girl from Colorado waiting to get raped
calm down bitter clipper fan :laugh:...don't be mad you guys are a disgrace to L.A
Um, who's the better team as of last year?? keep living in the past homie, I'll Just call you al bundy cuz your living off old glory days
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let's argue that someone who's played a few seasons is better than someone who's a 9 year vet with 3 rings just cuz they don't like the vet :grumpy:
and to the 2 arguing who was responsible for the Lakers rings...... they wouldn't have been there without Shaq, and they wouldn't have won without Kobe
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....and everyone else will say Lebron.
LMFAOOOOOO!! Are you kidding me? You're saying only Kobe dickriders think Kobe is better than LeBron? LOLLLL ROFLMAO...You know how many people I know who don't even like Kobe whatsoever that will laugh at people claiming LeBron is better? Your whole statement is a joke...LMAOOOO.
What was that? i couldnt hear you with Kobe's Dick So Far Down Your Throat.....Your On Kobe's Dick So Hard I'd Swear You were a White Girl from Colorado waiting to get raped
calm down bitter clipper fan :laugh:...don't be mad you guys are a disgrace to L.A
Um, who's the better team as of last year?? keep living in the past homie, I'll Just call you al bundy cuz your living off old glory days
:laugh: :laugh: you're so stupid..you faggots are nowhere near the lakers level you gotta do waaaaaaay more then win 2 more games in a lottery year to be beter then us you dumbass clipper fans...faggot ass bitches want so badly to claim they better then us ..get the fuck out of here with that bullshit
who has the best player/coach in the nba? Lakers ..kobe & phil...clippers aint got shit
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how stupid is it to say "IF" this player was with this player he would of/would not win a championship?....you can't do that...
do you morons know that scottie pippen was the guy that told jordan and everyone else what to do on defence,when to do it..you know.. telling them that "when this player does this you do that.....do you?
it takes a team...
we might as well start saying that if the Lakers had P.Ewing or Hakeem Olajuwon playing with kobe we would of still won 3 straight championships..that's what you guys are doing..lets add yao ming to that to..if we had him last season the Lakers would of the championship
you guys are some hating ass bitches..you been brain wash by shaq and the media to believe that shit..it's really sad
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....
how is that dick ryding? he won 3 straight championships..he did his MJ thing..having 35,40,50 point games ,been clutch ,taking over 4rth quarters,hitting game winning shots..been @ his best while going through a case (42 points in game 4 of the 2nd round in 2004 playoffs against the spurs/bruse bowen after pleading not guilty to sexual assult and been in eagle,CO all day.. ;) ;D :-* :o :o :o :o)
and kobe is still going to that once we get back on track wich will be in a month...
that's a fucking fact!!....gawdamn you a jealous muthafucka...stop been so mad..you acting like a fag...you're the one dickriding Lebronze by saying the dumbsest shit in this thread
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i've said it a million times and i'll say it again..........there is NO, i repeat NO one, overall as good as Kobe Bryant
this is coming from a shaquille o'neal fan too
lebron james.....hasn't proved anything, hell IMO he's not even the best player to come out of his draft class, in 3 or 4 years i wouldn't be suprised if he turned out to be another Vince Carter
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....and everyone else will say Lebron.
LMFAOOOOOO!! Are you kidding me? You're saying only Kobe dickriders think Kobe is better than LeBron? LOLLLL ROFLMAO...You know how many people I know who don't even like Kobe whatsoever that will laugh at people claiming LeBron is better? Your whole statement is a joke...LMAOOOO.
What was that? i couldnt hear you with Kobe's Dick So Far Down Your Throat.....Your On Kobe's Dick So Hard I'd Swear You were a White Girl from Colorado waiting to get raped
oh yes. E-Krondon You Are So Funny. I Love How you know exactly when to Use Capitals for emphasis On Certain Words that mean more. That Makes You So Funny, You silly Creature......
Please come up with some better shit than that, you dumb piece of shit...PeACe
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T-Mac and Vince Carter are more comparable to Kobe than LeBron is...But Kobe will always be Kobe...
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What seperates Lebron from the likes of T-Mac, Francis, Carter is his vision on the court. Lebron IS the perfect playmaker and is really good at getting rebounds. Basically, Lebron isnt just a scorer...i see him more as a PG that is huge.
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....and everyone else will say Lebron.
LMFAOOOOOO!! Are you kidding me? You're saying only Kobe dickriders think Kobe is better than LeBron? LOLLLL ROFLMAO...You know how many people I know who don't even like Kobe whatsoever that will laugh at people claiming LeBron is better? Your whole statement is a joke...LMAOOOO.
What was that? i couldnt hear you with Kobe's Dick So Far Down Your Throat.....Your On Kobe's Dick So Hard I'd Swear You were a White Girl from Colorado waiting to get raped
oh yes. E-Krondon You Are So Funny. I Love How you know exactly when to Use Capitals for emphasis On Certain Words that mean more. That Makes You So Funny, You silly Creature......
Please come up with some better shit than that, you dumb piece of shit...PeACe
WOWY, THE GRAMMER POLICE STRIKES AGAIN!! WATCH OUT EVERYONE, IF YOU USE A COMMA SPLICE, JUST LIKE I JUST DID Now_I_Have_A_Big_Kobe_Dick_in_my_Mouth WILL GETCHA!!!!!!!! WATCH OUT, THE MESSAGE BOARDS ARE NOT SAFE!!!!
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T-Mac and Vince Carter are more comparable to Kobe than LeBron is...But Kobe will always be Kobe...
hahaha what a fag, Vince Carter is as good as Kobe?...... Vince Carter is better than LeBron James? :laugh: ::)
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....and everyone else will say Lebron.
LMFAOOOOOO!! Are you kidding me? You're saying only Kobe dickriders think Kobe is better than LeBron? LOLLLL ROFLMAO...You know how many people I know who don't even like Kobe whatsoever that will laugh at people claiming LeBron is better? Your whole statement is a joke...LMAOOOO.
What was that? i couldnt hear you with Kobe's Dick So Far Down Your Throat.....Your On Kobe's Dick So Hard I'd Swear You were a White Girl from Colorado waiting to get raped
oh yes. E-Krondon You Are So Funny. I Love How you know exactly when to Use Capitals for emphasis On Certain Words that mean more. That Makes You So Funny, You silly Creature......
Please come up with some better shit than that, you dumb piece of shit...PeACe
WOWY, THE GRAMMER POLICE STRIKES AGAIN!! WATCH OUT EVERYONE, IF YOU USE A COMMA SPLICE, JUST LIKE I JUST DID Now_I_Have_A_Big_Kobe_Dick_in_my_Mouth WILL GETCHA!!!!!!!! WATCH OUT, THE MESSAGE BOARDS ARE NOT SAFE!!!!
LMAO...So much emotion in your posts. Like a moaning bitch who can't shut up...How 'bout this, you nerd. SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!
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^^^ how about, I've seen your faggot ass put your goddamn heart into everything you've ever written :laugh:
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T-Mac and Vince Carter are more comparable to Kobe than LeBron is...But Kobe will always be Kobe...
hahaha what a fag, Vince Carter is as good as Kobe?...... Vince Carter is better than LeBron James? :laugh: ::)
Are you retarded you dumbass? You can't even comprehend shit. Anyone on this board will tell you that I don't think Vince Carter is as good as Kobe...I was saying that Vince Carter is mor comparable to Kobe than LeBron is, due to the fact that he's actually won playoff games, was put to the test in clutch situations, won a gold medal, etc...LeBron hasn't done shit yet. And you, I don't even know if you deserve to be a Laker fan.
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Personal statistics is what it is. Personal. One Player. It cant get any better than that to evaluate a player.
Personal stats are influenced by the team in which you play and by the players who surrend you. Would Stoudemire have these so impressive stats without Nash ? Even if he's a great player I don't think so
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^^^ how about, I've seen your faggot ass put your goddamn heart into everything you've ever written :laugh:
How 'bout I don't know who the fuck you are yet you seem to be all up on my dick...You're new over here, you've talked too much shit and you've already proven yourself a retard. Shut the fuck up along with E-Krondon, you little punk ass jelly tricklin' bitch...
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WOWY, THE GRAMMER POLICE STRIKES AGAIN!! WATCH OUT EVERYONE, IF YOU USE A COMMA SPLICE, JUST LIKE I JUST DID Now_I_Have_A_Big_Kobe_Dick_in_my_Mouth WILL GETCHA!!!!!!!! WATCH OUT, THE MESSAGE BOARDS ARE NOT SAFE!!!!
you still mad @ all those ass woopins the Lakers/kobe has givin the clippers :boohoo: :boohoo:...now shut the fuck up..you pathetic clipper fan
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T-Mac and Vince Carter are more comparable to Kobe than LeBron is...But Kobe will always be Kobe...
hahaha what a fag, Vince Carter is as good as Kobe?...... Vince Carter is better than LeBron James? :laugh: ::)
Are you retarded you dumbass? You can't even comprehend shit. Anyone on this board will tell you that I don't think Vince Carter is as good as Kobe...I was saying that Vince Carter is mor comparable to Kobe than LeBron is, due to the fact that he's actually won playoff games, was put to the test in clutch situations, won a gold medal, etc...LeBron hasn't done shit yet. And you, I don't even know if you deserve to be a Laker fan.
all lebron has is a bronze medal...that's why he's called..Lebronze ;D
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^^^ how about, I've seen your faggot ass put your goddamn heart into everything you've ever written :laugh:
How 'bout I don't know who the fuck you are yet you seem to be all up on my dick...You're new over here, you've talked too much shit and you've already proven yourself a retard. Shut the fuck up along with E-Krondon, you little punk ass jelly tricklin' bitch...
Dude, Why are you so hostile? Its just a internet message board, Why do you gotta act like you the god damn Grammer Police and Message Board Police you Fuckin Nerd? is it cuz Dubcc Is your only way to escape from the pains of your parents buying you the regular car instead of the Benz on your bar-mitzfah, or because the rabbi circumsized your penis just a little too much?? You think you sound smart, yet - HOW MANY PEOPLE AGREE WITH YOU!? (man, look at the emotion there, i mean, look at those capital letters, man that means im angry doesnt it? WOWY! [now look i typed wowy in capital letters, that must mean that im happy or something, i dunno... now_i_have_a_bigger_dick_in_my_mouth_because_its_e-crazy's, Help me out here, can you?])
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^^^^ haha, I've had past problems with E-Crazy, but I'm startin to come around on how he knows what he's sayin, and he's right about your Jewish faggot ass, you fuckin dick, excuse me for not bein a seasoned vet on the internet forum like you Now_Im_A_Fag :laugh:
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Kobe=Sidekick ;) Shaq was Batman, Kobe was Robbin....deal with it, and move on.
see what i mean..only faggots take away from a nother mans hard work
i would imagine a faggot would be more likely to ride another mans nuts...
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....
how is that dick ryding? he won 3 straight championships..he did his MJ thing..having 35,40,50 point games ,been clutch ,taking over 4rth quarters,hitting game winning shots..been @ his best while going through a case (42 points in game 4 of the 2nd round in 2004 playoffs against the spurs/bruse bowen after pleading not guilty to sexual assult and been in eagle,CO all day.. ;) ;D :-* :o :o :o :o)
and kobe is still going to that once we get back on track wich will be in a month...
that's a fucking fact!!....gawdamn you a jealous muthafucka...stop been so mad..you acting like a fag...you're the one dickriding Lebronze by saying the dumbsest shit in this thread
if you werent so fuckin stupid you would understand this. IM NOT A LEBRON FAN AT ALL. lol. Figure it out dumbass. I only mention his name because you guys set up these threads. How are you guys so blind tho? Like i said, its cool to be a fan. But there is a HUGE different between a fan and a dickrider. You clowns....dickriders. For u guys, Kobe can do no wrong lol. Cmon, how stupid is that? As much as his attitude is complete bullshit, ive still come out and said he is a good player. But not one of you dickriders has ever admitted ANYthing wrong with him. He is perfect in your eyes...which, makes him your God. You guys are such little kids with this Kobe thing. When youre a little kid, you dont see flaws. Your heroes ARE perfect to you. Once you grow up, you realize that your little heroes really ARENT perfect...as no one is. So until you guys grow up, and understand this unbelievably simple idea...this argument is stupid. Its like trying to argue someone out of their religion. All the facts in the world, solid facts, could point against their OPINION...and theyd still blindly believe. So you little fags keep believing. Keep hope alive lol. And lets hope you guys manage to slip into the playoffs with an 8 seed, so my team can crush you guys in the playoffs. ;)
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^^^ how about, I've seen your faggot ass put your goddamn heart into everything you've ever written :laugh:
How 'bout I don't know who the fuck you are yet you seem to be all up on my dick...You're new over here, you've talked too much shit and you've already proven yourself a retard. Shut the fuck up along with E-Krondon, you little punk ass jelly tricklin' bitch...
Dude, Why are you so hostile? Its just a internet message board, Why do you gotta act like you the god damn Grammer Police and Message Board Police you Fuckin Nerd? is it cuz Dubcc Is your only way to escape from the pains of your parents buying you the regular car instead of the Benz on your bar-mitzfah, or because the rabbi circumsized your penis just a little too much?? You think you sound smart, yet - HOW MANY PEOPLE AGREE WITH YOU!? (man, look at the emotion there, i mean, look at those capital letters, man that means im angry doesnt it? WOWY! [now look i typed wowy in capital letters, that must mean that im happy or something, i dunno... now_i_have_a_bigger_dick_in_my_mouth_because_its_e-crazy's, Help me out here, can you?])
LMFAO...You emotional little bitch, cry me a fucking river. We're talking about basketball here, I know you're still hurt from the embarassment you've suffered on this board, but go cry in threads where it's more fitting...LOLLLL
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....
how is that dick ryding? he won 3 straight championships..he did his MJ thing..having 35,40,50 point games ,been clutch ,taking over 4rth quarters,hitting game winning shots..been @ his best while going through a case (42 points in game 4 of the 2nd round in 2004 playoffs against the spurs/bruse bowen after pleading not guilty to sexual assult and been in eagle,CO all day.. ;) ;D :-* :o :o :o :o)
and kobe is still going to that once we get back on track wich will be in a month...
that's a fucking fact!!....gawdamn you a jealous muthafucka...stop been so mad..you acting like a fag...you're the one dickriding Lebronze by saying the dumbsest shit in this thread
if you werent so fuckin stupid you would understand this. IM NOT A LEBRON FAN AT ALL. lol. Figure it out dumbass. I only mention his name because you guys set up these threads. How are you guys so blind tho? Like i said, its cool to be a fan. But there is a HUGE different between a fan and a dickrider. You clowns....dickriders. For u guys, Kobe can do no wrong lol. Cmon, how stupid is that? As much as his attitude is complete bullshit, ive still come out and said he is a good player. But not one of you dickriders has ever admitted ANYthing wrong with him. He is perfect in your eyes...which, makes him your God. You guys are such little kids with this Kobe thing. When youre a little kid, you dont see flaws. Your heroes ARE perfect to you. Once you grow up, you realize that your little heroes really ARENT perfect...as no one is. So until you guys grow up, and understand this unbelievably simple idea...this argument is stupid. Its like trying to argue someone out of their religion. All the facts in the world, solid facts, could point against their OPINION...and theyd still blindly believe. So you little fags keep believing. Keep hope alive lol. And lets hope you guys manage to slip into the playoffs with an 8 seed, so my team can crush you guys in the playoffs. ;)
LMAO. What are you saying? It makes no sense to talk about the wrongs Kobe can do when defending him, smart guy, hence us not pointin out his flaws...Now we are talking about why he is better than LeBron. We know your team is good and they will be for a while, but Lakers an 8th seed? In 15 years from now the Lakers will have collected more championships than the Spurs will in that time-span...I'm willing to bet...PeACe
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until lebron gets some rings... i'm going with kobe. i don't care if it's because he had shaq or not. having rings does a lot for your repuation. the only difference between joe montana and dan marino is rings.
Word.
Kobe got the rings. Lebron is great but come on now. People are just hating on Kobe.
One worrd..............SHAQ
thats all I have to say about Kobe getting rings
Lebron>>>>>>Kobe>>>>>>>>>Wade
BTW, anytime someone makes a whos better thread, it always seems to turn into "whos career is better"
like someone already said, its about the player. One on one, statistically, LeBron is better....If someone asked me to pick one player in the league to build a team around, it would be LeBron hands down. He makes everyone around him better aswell, somethin that Kobe doesnt seem to do.
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until lebron gets some rings... i'm going with kobe. i don't care if it's because he had shaq or not. having rings does a lot for your repuation. the only difference between joe montana and dan marino is rings.
Word.
Kobe got the rings. Lebron is great but come on now. People are just hating on Kobe.
One worrd..............SHAQ
thats all I have to say about Kobe getting rings
Lebron>>>>>>Kobe>>>>>>>>>Wade
BTW, anytime someone makes a whos better thread, it always seems to turn into "whos career is better"
like someone already said, its about the player. One on one, statistically, LeBron is better....If someone asked me to pick one player in the league to build a team around, it would be LeBron hands down. He makes everyone around him better aswell, somethin that Kobe doesnt seem to do.
This obviously is coming from someone who doesn't know a lot about basketball...Careers and achievments have a lot to do with proving that status of a player. So you think stats prove LeBron is better? LMAO...Tracy McGrady on Cleveland last year woulda' had better stats. Hell, I honestly think Grant Hill a few years back coulda easily surpassed LeBrons stats on a team like Cleveland...I don't see how people don't get flamed on for comparing LeBron to Kobe, yet when you mention Kobe and Jordan in the same sentence everyone goes crazy. Kobe and Jordan are more comparable, they've actually accomplished great things in their career. LeBron isn't on that level yet...That's why I said, WCC is a funny place...PeACe
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....
how is that dick ryding? he won 3 straight championships..he did his MJ thing..having 35,40,50 point games ,been clutch ,taking over 4rth quarters,hitting game winning shots..been @ his best while going through a case (42 points in game 4 of the 2nd round in 2004 playoffs against the spurs/bruse bowen after pleading not guilty to sexual assult and been in eagle,CO all day.. ;) ;D :-* :o :o :o :o)
and kobe is still going to that once we get back on track wich will be in a month...
that's a fucking fact!!....gawdamn you a jealous muthafucka...stop been so mad..you acting like a fag...you're the one dickriding Lebronze by saying the dumbsest shit in this thread
if you werent so fuckin stupid you would understand this. IM NOT A LEBRON FAN AT ALL. lol. Figure it out dumbass. I only mention his name because you guys set up these threads. How are you guys so blind tho? Like i said, its cool to be a fan. But there is a HUGE different between a fan and a dickrider. You clowns....dickriders. For u guys, Kobe can do no wrong lol. Cmon, how stupid is that? As much as his attitude is complete bullshit, ive still come out and said he is a good player. But not one of you dickriders has ever admitted ANYthing wrong with him. He is perfect in your eyes...which, makes him your God. You guys are such little kids with this Kobe thing. When youre a little kid, you dont see flaws. Your heroes ARE perfect to you. Once you grow up, you realize that your little heroes really ARENT perfect...as no one is. So until you guys grow up, and understand this unbelievably simple idea...this argument is stupid. Its like trying to argue someone out of their religion. All the facts in the world, solid facts, could point against their OPINION...and theyd still blindly believe. So you little fags keep believing. Keep hope alive lol. And lets hope you guys manage to slip into the playoffs with an 8 seed, so my team can crush you guys in the playoffs. ;)
LMAO. What are you saying? It makes no sense to talk about the wrongs Kobe can do when defending him, smart guy, hence us not pointin out his flaws...Now we are talking about why he is better than LeBron. We know your team is good and they will be for a while, but Lakers an 8th seed? In 15 years from now the Lakers will have collected more championships than the Spurs will in that time-span...I'm willing to bet...PeACe
its the exact opposite man. im going against Kobe in these arguments, and ive managed to say good things about him too. If you guys would occassionally admit his weak points, it would give your argument more credibility. when you never say ANYthing negative about the man...it gives the impression that u believe he is perfect. Ive admitted a million times that he is one of the best players in the league. as for championships....15 years? lol. Youre givin yourself SOME cushion there huh? go ahead and narrow it down to a normal time span. "in 100 years we will have more championships!" lol. Bold prediction. Who knows who will have more in the next 15 years...and honestly, who would care by then anyways. You think in 15 years youre going to actually look back to this argument and think..."wow...i was right" lol. I hope u have more going on with your life by that point man.
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....
how is that dick ryding? he won 3 straight championships..he did his MJ thing..having 35,40,50 point games ,been clutch ,taking over 4rth quarters,hitting game winning shots..been @ his best while going through a case (42 points in game 4 of the 2nd round in 2004 playoffs against the spurs/bruse bowen after pleading not guilty to sexual assult and been in eagle,CO all day.. ;) ;D :-* :o :o :o :o)
and kobe is still going to that once we get back on track wich will be in a month...
that's a fucking fact!!....gawdamn you a jealous muthafucka...stop been so mad..you acting like a fag...you're the one dickriding Lebronze by saying the dumbsest shit in this thread
if you werent so fuckin stupid you would understand this. IM NOT A LEBRON FAN AT ALL. lol. Figure it out dumbass. I only mention his name because you guys set up these threads. How are you guys so blind tho? Like i said, its cool to be a fan. But there is a HUGE different between a fan and a dickrider. You clowns....dickriders. For u guys, Kobe can do no wrong lol. Cmon, how stupid is that? As much as his attitude is complete bullshit, ive still come out and said he is a good player. But not one of you dickriders has ever admitted ANYthing wrong with him. He is perfect in your eyes...which, makes him your God. You guys are such little kids with this Kobe thing. When youre a little kid, you dont see flaws. Your heroes ARE perfect to you. Once you grow up, you realize that your little heroes really ARENT perfect...as no one is. So until you guys grow up, and understand this unbelievably simple idea...this argument is stupid. Its like trying to argue someone out of their religion. All the facts in the world, solid facts, could point against their OPINION...and theyd still blindly believe. So you little fags keep believing. Keep hope alive lol. And lets hope you guys manage to slip into the playoffs with an 8 seed, so my team can crush you guys in the playoffs. ;)
LMAO. What are you saying? It makes no sense to talk about the wrongs Kobe can do when defending him, smart guy, hence us not pointin out his flaws...Now we are talking about why he is better than LeBron. We know your team is good and they will be for a while, but Lakers an 8th seed? In 15 years from now the Lakers will have collected more championships than the Spurs will in that time-span...I'm willing to bet...PeACe
its the exact opposite man. im going against Kobe in these arguments, and ive managed to say good things about him too. If you guys would occassionally admit his weak points, it would give your argument more credibility. when you never say ANYthing negative about the man...it gives the impression that u believe he is perfect. Ive admitted a million times that he is one of the best players in the league. as for championships....15 years? lol. Youre givin yourself SOME cushion there huh? go ahead and narrow it down to a normal time span. "in 100 years we will have more championships!" lol. Bold prediction. Who knows who will have more in the next 15 years...and honestly, who would care by then anyways. You think in 15 years youre going to actually look back to this argument and think..."wow...i was right" lol. I hope u have more going on with your life by that point man.
But it would make no sense ti randomly just insert Kobe's flaws while defending him...Are you even trying to make sense? You said Kobe is a good player, great! I said LeBron was a good player too, what's your point? Your still not thinking clearly...This is what you're looking for:
"Kobe is better than LeBron because *insert random Kobe flaw here*"...Doesn't make much sense, does it? Now we're talking about why Kobe is so much better than LeBron, so I'll stick to that...As for the Lakers having more in 15, I'm just proving that the Lakers will remain on top, regardless. Shit, like I said, San Antonio will be a great franchise for years to come, but they have yet to surpass the greatness of the Lakers. Season starts soon, I have no doubts in my mind that the Spurs will be a better team when it does, but I keep my faith in hand...PeACe
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until lebron gets some rings... i'm going with kobe. i don't care if it's because he had shaq or not. having rings does a lot for your repuation. the only difference between joe montana and dan marino is rings.
Word.
Kobe got the rings. Lebron is great but come on now. People are just hating on Kobe.
One worrd..............SHAQ
thats all I have to say about Kobe getting rings
Lebron>>>>>>Kobe>>>>>>>>>Wade
BTW, anytime someone makes a whos better thread, it always seems to turn into "whos career is better"
like someone already said, its about the player. One on one, statistically, LeBron is better....If someone asked me to pick one player in the league to build a team around, it would be LeBron hands down. He makes everyone around him better aswell, somethin that Kobe doesnt seem to do.
This obviously is coming from someone who doesn't know a lot about basketball...Careers and achievments have a lot to do with proving that status of a player. So you think stats prove LeBron is better? LMAO...Tracy McGrady on Cleveland last year woulda' had better stats. Hell, I honestly think Grant Hill a few years back coulda easily surpassed LeBrons stats on a team like Cleveland...I don't see how people don't get flamed on for comparing LeBron to Kobe, yet when you mention Kobe and Jordan in the same sentence everyone goes crazy. Kobe and Jordan are more comparable, they've actually accomplished great things in their career. LeBron isn't on that level yet...That's why I said, WCC is a funny place...PeACe
Its not that I dont know anything about basketball, its more like arguing with you over the lakers or Kobe wont get anyone anywhere. When it comes to basketball, youre a joke man. You dont know shit, you will never see past the purple and gold and hold an honest opinion about anything that has to do with the Lakers. Trust me, Ive been playing ball since I was 4 years old man, watching games night in and night out. It doesnt take a genious to realize that without Shaq, Kobe or Wade for that matter wont win any rings. But for that matter, I dont think anyone on this board expects you to ever say anyone is or will ever be better than Kobe.
I dont even know why I waste my time replaying to any Laker thread on this board because its the same old shit time and time again. Someone saying that someone might possibly be better than Kobe or the Lakers and you using all your time and energy trying to prove them wrong and argue with them. You must get tired of re-writing the same shit over and over again man. It would be funny for someone to bring up the last 100 Laker threads on this board you read about Now_Im_Blowed saying the same shit over and over again in each thread.
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until lebron gets some rings... i'm going with kobe. i don't care if it's because he had shaq or not. having rings does a lot for your repuation. the only difference between joe montana and dan marino is rings.
Word.
Kobe got the rings. Lebron is great but come on now. People are just hating on Kobe.
One worrd..............SHAQ
thats all I have to say about Kobe getting rings
Lebron>>>>>>Kobe>>>>>>>>>Wade
BTW, anytime someone makes a whos better thread, it always seems to turn into "whos career is better"
like someone already said, its about the player. One on one, statistically, LeBron is better....If someone asked me to pick one player in the league to build a team around, it would be LeBron hands down. He makes everyone around him better aswell, somethin that Kobe doesnt seem to do.
This obviously is coming from someone who doesn't know a lot about basketball...Careers and achievments have a lot to do with proving that status of a player. So you think stats prove LeBron is better? LMAO...Tracy McGrady on Cleveland last year woulda' had better stats. Hell, I honestly think Grant Hill a few years back coulda easily surpassed LeBrons stats on a team like Cleveland...I don't see how people don't get flamed on for comparing LeBron to Kobe, yet when you mention Kobe and Jordan in the same sentence everyone goes crazy. Kobe and Jordan are more comparable, they've actually accomplished great things in their career. LeBron isn't on that level yet...That's why I said, WCC is a funny place...PeACe
Its not that I dont know anything about basketball, its more like arguing with you over the lakers or Kobe wont get anyone anywhere. When it comes to basketball, youre a joke man. You dont know shit, you will never see past the purple and gold and hold an honest opinion about anything that has to do with the Lakers. Trust me, Ive been playing ball since I was 4 years old man, watching games night in and night out. It doesnt take a genious to realize that without Shaq, Kobe or Wade for that matter wont win any rings. But for that matter, I dont think anyone on this board expects you to ever say anyone is or will ever be better than Kobe.
I dont even know why I waste my time replaying to any Laker thread on this board because its the same old shit time and time again. Someone saying that someone might possibly be better than Kobe or the Lakers and you using all your time and energy trying to prove them wrong and argue with them. You must get tired of re-writing the same shit over and over again man. It would be funny for someone to bring up the last 100 Laker threads on this board you read about Now_Im_Blowed saying the same shit over and over again in each thread.
What are you saying? I don't know shit about basketball? LMAO, good one! Most of the posts consisting basketball news and discussion were either started by me or involve me. And I'm not "just a Laker dickrider", I've proven my basketball credebility on this board, I've touched many topics and covered many teams. Even ToNe, after all these years, can admit...I know my shit.
Now, the only argument the Kobe haters ever use is "Kobe fans are dickriders!" or "You guys love Kobe so much! Laker fans are all the same"...Did you ever stop to think that actually speaking on what I've posted might come in handy for your argument? Saying LeBron is better than Kobe can be considered blasphemy out there in the basketball world. On this board it's very common and accepted. I've already realized this along time ago, so now my goal is to enlighten ya'll...PeACe
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....
how is that dick ryding? he won 3 straight championships..he did his MJ thing..having 35,40,50 point games ,been clutch ,taking over 4rth quarters,hitting game winning shots..been @ his best while going through a case (42 points in game 4 of the 2nd round in 2004 playoffs against the spurs/bruse bowen after pleading not guilty to sexual assult and been in eagle,CO all day.. ;) ;D :-* :o :o :o :o)
and kobe is still going to that once we get back on track wich will be in a month...
that's a fucking fact!!....gawdamn you a jealous muthafucka...stop been so mad..you acting like a fag...you're the one dickriding Lebronze by saying the dumbsest shit in this thread
if you werent so fuckin stupid you would understand this. IM NOT A LEBRON FAN AT ALL. lol. Figure it out dumbass. I only mention his name because you guys set up these threads. How are you guys so blind tho? Like i said, its cool to be a fan. But there is a HUGE different between a fan and a dickrider. You clowns....dickriders. For u guys, Kobe can do no wrong lol. Cmon, how stupid is that? As much as his attitude is complete bullshit, ive still come out and said he is a good player. But not one of you dickriders has ever admitted ANYthing wrong with him. He is perfect in your eyes...which, makes him your God. You guys are such little kids with this Kobe thing. When youre a little kid, you dont see flaws. Your heroes ARE perfect to you. Once you grow up, you realize that your little heroes really ARENT perfect...as no one is. So until you guys grow up, and understand this unbelievably simple idea...this argument is stupid. Its like trying to argue someone out of their religion. All the facts in the world, solid facts, could point against their OPINION...and theyd still blindly believe. So you little fags keep believing. Keep hope alive lol. And lets hope you guys manage to slip into the playoffs with an 8 seed, so my team can crush you guys in the playoffs. ;)
LMAO. What are you saying? It makes no sense to talk about the wrongs Kobe can do when defending him, smart guy, hence us not pointin out his flaws...Now we are talking about why he is better than LeBron. We know your team is good and they will be for a while, but Lakers an 8th seed? In 15 years from now the Lakers will have collected more championships than the Spurs will in that time-span...I'm willing to bet...PeACe
its the exact opposite man. im going against Kobe in these arguments, and ive managed to say good things about him too. If you guys would occassionally admit his weak points, it would give your argument more credibility. when you never say ANYthing negative about the man...it gives the impression that u believe he is perfect. Ive admitted a million times that he is one of the best players in the league. as for championships....15 years? lol. Youre givin yourself SOME cushion there huh? go ahead and narrow it down to a normal time span. "in 100 years we will have more championships!" lol. Bold prediction. Who knows who will have more in the next 15 years...and honestly, who would care by then anyways. You think in 15 years youre going to actually look back to this argument and think..."wow...i was right" lol. I hope u have more going on with your life by that point man.
But it would make no sense ti randomly just insert Kobe's flaws while defending him...Are you even trying to make sense? You said Kobe is a good player, great! I said LeBron was a good player too, what's your point? Your still not thinking clearly...This is what you're looking for:
"Kobe is better than LeBron because *insert random Kobe flaw here*"...Doesn't make much sense, does it? Now we're talking about why Kobe is so much better than LeBron, so I'll stick to that...As for the Lakers having more in 15, I'm just proving that the Lakers will remain on top, regardless. Shit, like I said, San Antonio will be a great franchise for years to come, but they have yet to surpass the greatness of the Lakers. Season starts soon, I have no doubts in my mind that the Spurs will be a better team when it does, but I keep my faith in hand...PeACe
no, youre not getting it man. its bigger then this argument. it goes back to why people consider you guys dickriders, and not fans. fans see positives AND negatives. dickriders cant imagine there are negatives at all. obviously, we can all agree Kobe is not perfect (obviously lol). which means you guys admit there are aspects of his game that he needs to work on. but none of you are man enough to say that. you all pretend that Kobe is the greatest thing the world has ever seen lol. thats what makes you guys look ridiculous to everyone in these arguments. it doesnt mean that in the course of the argument u necessarily have to critisize him while arguing for him. but if u were to EVER admit things wrong with him...then it would make your arguments more credible and based on what you believe as facts, not just based on blind love. See what i mean? Like i said, its like the religious freaks. You cant argue how silly their religion sounds...because in their eyes, admitting wrongs in their religion would be like admitting u dont have faith or something. Even when the rest of the world might see how retarded it is.
anyways, fuck it. like i said before...we'll see how this season plays out. i dont see you guys doin shit honestly. a better year then last year for sure, and MAYBE even a playoff spot. but a lower seed, no higher then 6. also remember, you have Phil now. a good season this year will do more for his reputation as a great coach then it will for Kobe's rep. a good year this year would only prove how good Phil is, not necessarily Kobe.
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Seriously, how about this be the last "Whos better Kobe or Lebron" thread? Its stupid honestly. All Kobe dickriders are always going to say him....
how is that dick ryding? he won 3 straight championships..he did his MJ thing..having 35,40,50 point games ,been clutch ,taking over 4rth quarters,hitting game winning shots..been @ his best while going through a case (42 points in game 4 of the 2nd round in 2004 playoffs against the spurs/bruse bowen after pleading not guilty to sexual assult and been in eagle,CO all day.. ;) ;D :-* :o :o :o :o)
and kobe is still going to that once we get back on track wich will be in a month...
that's a fucking fact!!....gawdamn you a jealous muthafucka...stop been so mad..you acting like a fag...you're the one dickriding Lebronze by saying the dumbsest shit in this thread
if you werent so fuckin stupid you would understand this. IM NOT A LEBRON FAN AT ALL. lol. Figure it out dumbass. I only mention his name because you guys set up these threads. How are you guys so blind tho? Like i said, its cool to be a fan. But there is a HUGE different between a fan and a dickrider. You clowns....dickriders. For u guys, Kobe can do no wrong lol. Cmon, how stupid is that? As much as his attitude is complete bullshit, ive still come out and said he is a good player. But not one of you dickriders has ever admitted ANYthing wrong with him. He is perfect in your eyes...which, makes him your God. You guys are such little kids with this Kobe thing. When youre a little kid, you dont see flaws. Your heroes ARE perfect to you. Once you grow up, you realize that your little heroes really ARENT perfect...as no one is. So until you guys grow up, and understand this unbelievably simple idea...this argument is stupid. Its like trying to argue someone out of their religion. All the facts in the world, solid facts, could point against their OPINION...and theyd still blindly believe. So you little fags keep believing. Keep hope alive lol. And lets hope you guys manage to slip into the playoffs with an 8 seed, so my team can crush you guys in the playoffs. ;)
LMAO. What are you saying? It makes no sense to talk about the wrongs Kobe can do when defending him, smart guy, hence us not pointin out his flaws...Now we are talking about why he is better than LeBron. We know your team is good and they will be for a while, but Lakers an 8th seed? In 15 years from now the Lakers will have collected more championships than the Spurs will in that time-span...I'm willing to bet...PeACe
its the exact opposite man. im going against Kobe in these arguments, and ive managed to say good things about him too. If you guys would occassionally admit his weak points, it would give your argument more credibility. when you never say ANYthing negative about the man...it gives the impression that u believe he is perfect. Ive admitted a million times that he is one of the best players in the league. as for championships....15 years? lol. Youre givin yourself SOME cushion there huh? go ahead and narrow it down to a normal time span. "in 100 years we will have more championships!" lol. Bold prediction. Who knows who will have more in the next 15 years...and honestly, who would care by then anyways. You think in 15 years youre going to actually look back to this argument and think..."wow...i was right" lol. I hope u have more going on with your life by that point man.
But it would make no sense ti randomly just insert Kobe's flaws while defending him...Are you even trying to make sense? You said Kobe is a good player, great! I said LeBron was a good player too, what's your point? Your still not thinking clearly...This is what you're looking for:
"Kobe is better than LeBron because *insert random Kobe flaw here*"...Doesn't make much sense, does it? Now we're talking about why Kobe is so much better than LeBron, so I'll stick to that...As for the Lakers having more in 15, I'm just proving that the Lakers will remain on top, regardless. Shit, like I said, San Antonio will be a great franchise for years to come, but they have yet to surpass the greatness of the Lakers. Season starts soon, I have no doubts in my mind that the Spurs will be a better team when it does, but I keep my faith in hand...PeACe
no, youre not getting it man. its bigger then this argument. it goes back to why people consider you guys dickriders, and not fans. fans see positives AND negatives. dickriders cant imagine there are negatives at all. obviously, we can all agree Kobe is not perfect (obviously lol). which means you guys admit there are aspects of his game that he needs to work on. but none of you are man enough to say that. you all pretend that Kobe is the greatest thing the world has ever seen lol. thats what makes you guys look ridiculous to everyone in these arguments. it doesnt mean that in the course of the argument u necessarily have to critisize him while arguing for him. but if u were to EVER admit things wrong with him...then it would make your arguments more credible and based on what you believe as facts, not just based on blind love. See what i mean? Like i said, its like the religious freaks. You cant argue how silly their religion sounds...because in their eyes, admitting wrongs in their religion would be like admitting u dont have faith or something. Even when the rest of the world might see how retarded it is.
anyways, fuck it. like i said before...we'll see how this season plays out. i dont see you guys doin shit honestly. a better year then last year for sure, and MAYBE even a playoff spot. but a lower seed, no higher then 6. also remember, you have Phil now. a good season this year will do more for his reputation as a great coach then it will for Kobe's rep. a good year this year would only prove how good Phil is, not necessarily Kobe.
I don't see how I'm a dickrider at all? I've never once said Kobe's perfect...Shit, no one's perfect, not even Jordan. But what's your point? Nothing I've said has been dickriding, it's all been credible, you're just reaching for shit to avoid the main topic of discussion...You hate on Kobe a lot more than I dickride, hell, you're even too blind to see it, but it clearly shows. Even if Kobe bounced back from last years catashtrophic "season" and put up amazing numbers to lead the Lakers to contender status, you'd just give Phil credit. It's cause you hate on Kobe so much, you can't give credit where credit is due...Come on man, it's very easy to see...Admit you're a hater...PeACe
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I thinks Wade has proven more of his potiental than Lebron has.At least we know how Wade performes under pressure (playoffs).Until Lebron actually plays a playoff series yall cannot compare Kobe and Lebron.SO I SAY TO ALL YOU KOBE HATERS EAT A DICK AND RECONIZE GAME.
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how would t-mac have better stats on cleveland, when he didnt even have better stats in shitty ass 18-games-in-a-row-losing-orlando? lebron > t-mac, altough t-mac is still great.
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Lebron? T-Mac? Wade? C'mon you gotta be kidding me!! They are good players, maybe great players, they are some of the brightest stars in the NBA, franchise-men. But Kobe is another thing. Kobe is a champion. Kobe is a winner. He has already proven it by winning 3 rings and a half, by making some of the most spectacular buzzer beaters in NBA history, by elevating his game (and his stats) during the 4th quarters and during the Play Offs, by having the right mentality and approach to the game to win it. Another level. It's like comparing Abdur Rahim (great stats, you gotta respect them! Good player, former All Star too) to Robert Horry. Horry is a champion. Horry is a winner. Fuck stats.
Kobe, Horry = champions/winners
Wade, T-Mac, Lebron, Abdur Rahim.. = good/great players
Kobe is Lebron PLUS 3 rings.
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Lebron? T-Mac? Wade? C'mon you gotta be kidding me!! They are good players, maybe great players, they are some of the brightest stars in the NBA, franchise-men. But Kobe is another thing. Kobe is a champion. Kobe is a winner. He has already proven it by winning 3 rings and a half, by making some of the most spectacular buzzer beaters in NBA history, by elevating his game (and his stats) during the 4th quarters and during the Play Offs, by having the right mentality and approach to the game to win it. Another level. It's like comparing Abdur Rahim (great stats, you gotta respect them! Good player, former All Star too) to Robert Horry. Horry is a champion. Horry is a winner. Fuck stats.
Kobe, Horry = champions/winners
Wade, T-Mac, Lebron, Abdur Rahim.. = good/great players
Kobe is Lebron PLUS 3 rings.
co sign to the fullest. Anyway some of these members have too much hate for the Lakers and Kobe to recognize it. Kobe has 3 rings, that's a fact , you can argue whatever Shaq... Kobe needed Shaq 4 sure but Shaq NEEDED Kobe too. Shaq without Kobe = no titles, that's also a fact you can't deny.
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. Shaq without Kobe = no titles, that's also a fact you can't deny.
Ya BUT Shaq without Kobe = Eastern Conference Final
Kobe without Shaq = -.500 & No Playoffs
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all these kobe haters are so passionate when it comes to hating on him..they'll say annything to take away from his greatness and accomplishments and hard work :loser: :grumpy:
ANYWAYS...
kobe 15 (55.6%) ;D
Lebron 12 (44.4%)....if Lebron keeps on working hard "Maybe" he could be on kobe's level one day "Maybe"
Total Votes: 27 .....
Post your Lebron championship pics..oh.i forgot..he hasn't won shit ;D :laugh:..
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this year will play a big role in who is viewed as a better player.
lakers hav made sum movez in the offseason to boost up their roster.
assumin both teamz stay healthy and both players remain consistent, then we can get the answer.
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derek fisher won 3 titles.... shit, I just realized something....He is better than LeBron TOO!!!!!
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Shaq and Kobe no Phil Jackson = sweep by Spurs or Jazz
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Ok well I did my research and here are the results
SEASON TEAM G MIN FG FGA FG% FG3 FG3A FG3% FT FTA FT% PTS AVG
2004-05 LA-L 66 2689 573 1324 43.3 131 387 33.9 542 664 81.6 1819 27.6 KOBE BRYANT
2004-05 Cle. 80 3388 795 1684 47.2 108 308 35.1 477 636 75.0 2175 27.2 LEBRON JAMES
More Stats
SEASON TEAM G MIN REB RAVG A AAVG STL SAVG BLK BAVG
2004-05 LA-L 66 2689 392 5.9 398 6.0 86 1.3 53 0.8 KOBE BRYANT
2004-05 Cle. 80 3388 588 7.3 577 7.2 177 2.2 52 0.7 LEBRON JAMES
THERE YA GO ;)
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derek fisher won 3 titles.... shit, I just realized something....He is better than LeBron TOO!!!!!
people that use that argument are morons (like 7 the opinion maker)...you gotta separate roll players & superstars..that shit is so stupid when people say "well..steve kerr has 5 championships does that make him better then Lebronze" that shit is a weak as argument
both Kobe & Lebron are superstars..so what separates them? kobe's championships and his clutch performence's in the playoffs..forgot about the reg. season..i'm talking about the big stage..the Playoffs and all those great games kobe had..and i'm not even going to type them down b/c i type them like 5 times already in other threads..so fuck you for blcking that shit out of your mind and some how convincing youself that Lebron is actually better then kobe & on kobe's Level
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THERE YA GO ;)
there ya go what? ??? ???. :grumpy:..they both put up big stats..they both superstars..i already explain what separates the two
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derek fisher won 3 titles.... shit, I just realized something....He is better than LeBron TOO!!!!!
people that use that argument are morons (like 7 the opinion maker)...you gotta separate roll players & superstars..that shit is so stupid when people say "well..steve kerr has 5 championships does that make him better then Lebronze" that shit is a weak as argument
..so fuck you for blcking that shit out of your mind and some how convincing youself that Lebron is actually better then kobe & on kobe's Level
well what does having won a title have to do with whos a better player than? was the topic called "Who has won more titles: LeBron or Kobe"?
NO
read the stats moron
its layed out for you
LJ wins
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You somehow need to get there to the big stage and the playoffs altogether. A single player cannot just carry the team. We have no idea how Lebron would perform if he was in Kobe's shoes during the those 3 years where the Lakers won the championships. What we do have an idea of is how they have been performing year by year. And last year, Lebron had a better year than kobe. Who has achieved more? Kobe of course. Who had a better year? Lebron of course. Will Lebron get rings? Who knows...we dont know what kind of teams he will be in the future. Will Kobe get more rings? Who knows again, same situation. Who will have the better season? Lebrons 3rd year which usually is the year where players like Garnett, Kobe has exploded into a powerhouse, something Lebron has already done so how much will he improve? Will Kobe go nuts with phil Jackson? WHo knows. You cant deny both athlete's talent though
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WOW!! :grumpy:....WHEN YOU WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS..THAT MEANS YOU DIDN'T CHOKE...that's why only the great players win championships in bunches
bill russel and the celtics
showtime Lakers with magic and j.worthy and kareem and all them
Jordan,pippen and the bulls
the rockets those 2 years
the Lakers in the new millennium
the spurs,with tim duncan
you people are really pathetic...again..how do you know Lebron is not going to be a choker when he gets to the playoffs?..he hasn't proven that he's on kobe's level
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kobe haters are so passionate about hating kobe. if you made a poll kobe vs. luc longley, i bet longley would get some votes just because people hate kobe so much. it's pathetic.
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. Shaq without Kobe = no titles, that's also a fact you can't deny.
Ya BUT Shaq without Kobe = Eastern Conference Final
Kobe without Shaq = -.500 & No Playoffs
Shaq plays in Miami, Kobe plays in Los Angeles. It's pointless to compare the efforts of the two players if they play in such different scenarios. For example i can tell you that the no-Shaq Miami were just 1 win away in the Play Offs from Shaq's one. And that Shaq played the worse basketball of his career. But i wouldnt go that far: simply it's pointless! It's like arguing about who was more decisive between Kobe and Shaq in the 3peat! Cause everybody were, from Phil to Horry to Fisher to Lue to everybody.
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derek fisher won 3 titles.... shit, I just realized something....He is better than LeBron TOO!!!!!
I never said it's all about rings. I said that you can be labeled a "champion" if you CARRY YOUR TEAM OVER YOUR SHOULDERS TILL THE FINALS. And you can be labeled as a "winner" if you WIN THE FINALS. Fisher didnt carry his team over his shoulder, but for sure you can call him a winner.
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kobe haters are so passionate about hating kobe. if you made a poll kobe vs. luc longley, i bet longley would get some votes just because people hate kobe so much. it's pathetic.
thats how we feel about the Kobe dickriders. "Kobe can do no wrong". Every single so called "Kobe Hater" has mentioned good aspects of his game, as well as bad ones. Every single one on here has admitted he is good, and also one of the better players in the league. On the other side, not one Kobe dickrider has shown the ability to admit that there is ANYthing wrong with Kobe's game. Now you tell me who the ones are that are out of touch with reality. We say he is one of the best, but have opinions on who is better. Yall think he's perfect. If you cant see understand out retarded that idea is, then you fall into the same category as them...and im sorry for u homie. Thing is, we use the arguments FOR KOBE that they give us, and turn it around against them...then all of a sudden its crazy.
Kobe Dickrider-"Kobe is better then Lebron, he has 3 rings!"
Opposition-"Pippen has more rings then Kobe, so he's better"
Kobe Dickrider-"Thats stupid, youre a moron!"
See how fuckin retarded that is? If your own logic works for u, then it also has to work against u also. Whether or not Kobe has played for some great teams in his past, has nothing to do with NOW. Yeah, he had the luxery of being a shooting guard a team with Shaq in the middle, and Phil running the show. Lebron hasnt had that luxery yet. But Lebron, in only a couple years is playing at the same level Kobe is. This isnt a one on one matchup. If i see two players playing on the same level, but one is halfway through their career...and the other is 3 years into it, i go with the youngster. This is the same logic that all you laker fans defended when Laker front office made the decision of Shaq over Kobe. Shaq is at the end of his career, Kobe has a lot left. So how hard is it to understand when that same argument is against you? You see?
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you're embarrassing yourself..you lost
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^^^lol@ you saying i lost because i made more sense then you....wow, you ARE stupid
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rings matter.
i'll bring up marino and montana again. stats don't lie... marino put up better numbers but when it comes down to it and you want to win the big game... who are you going to choose? montana every time. same goes for kobe and lebron... who would you rather have taking the last shot of the game 7 finals? jordan is probably everybody's first choice but between kobe and lebron... you gotta choose kobe.
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rings matter.
i'll bring up marino and montana again. stats don't lie... marino put up better numbers but when it comes down to it and you want to win the big game... who are you going to choose? montana every time. same goes for kobe and lebron... who would you rather have taking the last shot of the game 7 finals? jordan is probably everybody's first choice but between kobe and lebron... you gotta choose kobe.
thing is, you have to take EVERYthing into account. Using the Montana/Marino example is perfect. Id take Marino anytime over Montana to win a game...IF Marino had the 49ers offense to run with. I wouldnt take the Marino Dolphins over the Montana 49ers to win a game. But Montana was SURROUNDED with talent. They developed a system where you set up the run with the pass because they had so much talent in the passing game. If you stuck Marino (who IS the better QB) in that system, imagine what his numbers would be THEN. He is already statistically the best QB ever...and that was with the Dolphins offense.
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Exactly, any annylist would agree Marino is prolly the best QB of all time. Even tho he didnt win a title, most people say 1)Marino, 2) Elway and 3) Montana. Stats dont lie man. Marino put up the best numbers of all time, therefore, he should be considered the best QB of all time. Like last season, LeBron had better numbers than Kobe which means as of right now, LeBron is a better player. And another thing Id like to add, I think its obvious that LeBron is a much better teamate because he makes everyone around him better and thats something Kobe doesnt seem to do.
Id love to see a poll by NBA GM's as to who they would rather have on their team, Kobe or LeBron. Id put my money on 99.9% of the votes going to LeBron
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how would t-mac have better stats on cleveland, when he didnt even have better stats in shitty ass 18-games-in-a-row-losing-orlando? lebron > t-mac, altough t-mac is still great.
LeBron obviously had the better supporting cast than McGrady's 18 game losing streak Orlando team...But check it, McGrady's stats that season still look more appealing...Here are the comparisons from McGrady in that season and LeBron last season:
McGrady's PPG: 32.1
Lebron's PPG: 27.2
McGrady's RPG: 6.5
LeBron's RPG: 7.4
McGrady's APG: 5.5
LeBron's APG: 7.2
McGrady's BPG: .79
LeBron's BPG: .65
McGrady's TO: 2.60
LeBron's TO: 3.28
...See, the stats are very similar...All I'm trying to say is that comparing a new comer who has no accomplishments under his belt to a proven great who's achieved so much in this league is pretty much absurd. I think anyone can see that, especially if they know something about basketball...PeACE
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. Shaq without Kobe = no titles, that's also a fact you can't deny.
Ya BUT Shaq without Kobe = Eastern Conference Final
Kobe without Shaq = -.500 & No Playoffs
You dumbass moron...LMAO
Kobe + expansion team with disasterous season = -.500 & No Playoffs.
Shaq + A team who already won in the playoffs without him the previous season + a superstar in Dwayne Wade + A promise from Shaq to win the championship trophy = Eastern Conference Finals
Get your shit right...
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Ok well I did my research and here are the results
SEASON TEAM G MIN FG FGA FG% FG3 FG3A FG3% FT FTA FT% PTS AVG
2004-05 LA-L 66 2689 573 1324 43.3 131 387 33.9 542 664 81.6 1819 27.6 KOBE BRYANT
2004-05 Cle. 80 3388 795 1684 47.2 108 308 35.1 477 636 75.0 2175 27.2 LEBRON JAMES
More Stats
SEASON TEAM G MIN REB RAVG A AAVG STL SAVG BLK BAVG
2004-05 LA-L 66 2689 392 5.9 398 6.0 86 1.3 53 0.8 KOBE BRYANT
2004-05 Cle. 80 3388 588 7.3 577 7.2 177 2.2 52 0.7 LEBRON JAMES
THERE YA GO ;)
What are you trying to prove? LMFAOOO. You're the dumbest one in this whole discussion, I swear. I can pull up Vince Carter and Jerry Stackhouse stats better than Jordan's...What the fuck does that prove? Learn your shit before you speak...
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expansion team my ass thats not what u said at the start of the season when you were so sure they were a playoff team
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BTW, that heat team that you said already won previously in the playoff had 2 of its key players go to the lakers in Odom and Butler and Kobe did fuck all with them.
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expansion team my ass thats not what u said at the start of the season when you were so sure they were a playoff team
Can you comprehend shit? They were a playoff team, you dumbass. Up until halfway through the season they were well over .500. Then Rudy-T resigned, Kobe got injured, Odom got injured, an assistant coach took over the team, and everything just went down hill...That's why I said "disasterous season"...Holy shit, you seriously don't belong in these discussions.
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NIK , you really need to quit smoking bud man.
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quick, someone grab a tissue I think NIK is going to cry :'(
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BTW, that heat team that you said already won previously in the playoff had 2 of its key players go to the lakers in Odom and Butler and Kobe did fuck all with them.
Kobe did fuck all with them? LMAO...Butler improved greatly, especially towards the end of the season he was averaging like 30 points a game. Odom stayed consistant with his previous seasons. Remember, Dwayne Wade was the leader of the Heat, not Shaq...Shaq is just a fatass gimmick for Miami who likes to talk shit but not perform up to his standards...
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quick, someone grab a tissue I think NIK is going to cry :'(
Sonned 8)
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While NIK takes this whole thread personally, I find it quite humerous and entertaining ;D
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What is that, your substitute response? You little punk bitch... :-*
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Douche Bag
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Id love to see a poll by NBA GM's as to who they would rather have on their team, Kobe or LeBron. Id put my money on 99.9% of the votes going to LeBron
Surprisingly, they already made that poll and, guess what?, Kobe won 100% of the preferences. Now shut the fuck up. Out.
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kobe haters are so passionate about hating kobe. if you made a poll kobe vs. luc longley, i bet longley would get some votes just because people hate kobe so much. it's pathetic.
thats how we feel about the Kobe dickriders. "Kobe can do no wrong". Every single so called "Kobe Hater" has mentioned good aspects of his game, as well as bad ones. Every single one on here has admitted he is good, and also one of the better players in the league. On the other side, not one Kobe dickrider has shown the ability to admit that there is ANYthing wrong with Kobe's game. Now you tell me who the ones are that are out of touch with reality. We say he is one of the best, but have opinions on who is better. Yall think he's perfect. If you cant see understand out retarded that idea is, then you fall into the same category as them...and im sorry for u homie. Thing is, we use the arguments FOR KOBE that they give us, and turn it around against them...then all of a sudden its crazy.
Kobe Dickrider-"Kobe is better then Lebron, he has 3 rings!"
Opposition-"Pippen has more rings then Kobe, so he's better"
Kobe Dickrider-"Thats stupid, youre a moron!"
See how fuckin retarded that is? If your own logic works for u, then it also has to work against u also. Whether or not Kobe has played for some great teams in his past, has nothing to do with NOW. Yeah, he had the luxery of being a shooting guard a team with Shaq in the middle, and Phil running the show. Lebron hasnt had that luxery yet. But Lebron, in only a couple years is playing at the same level Kobe is. This isnt a one on one matchup. If i see two players playing on the same level, but one is halfway through their career...and the other is 3 years into it, i go with the youngster. This is the same logic that all you laker fans defended when Laker front office made the decision of Shaq over Kobe. Shaq is at the end of his career, Kobe has a lot left. So how hard is it to understand when that same argument is against you? You see?
No, it's different...Many believe Kobe hasn't even reached his prime yet, same with LeBron. They're under the same boat, you see? The difference is, Kobe is already a great while LeBron hasn't proven shit...He's proven he can play a good season statistically (not even winning-wise, sadly), but so many other have done that...If you look at Vince Carter's stats in his first few seasons, you'd think he'd end up being the greatest ever...But he's not even close...That's why it's Kobe >>>>>> LeBron anyday of the fucking week to anyone with any sense...PeACe
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Id love to see a poll by NBA GM's as to who they would rather have on their team, Kobe or LeBron. Id put my money on 99.9% of the votes going to LeBron
Surprisingly, they already made that poll and, guess what?, Kobe won 100% of the preferences. Now shut the fuck up. Out.
LMFAO...What a dumbass. I've already mentioned this poll so many times as well...LMAO@99.9% of the votes going to LeBron and him being 100% wrong...Get out of this conversation man, you seriously don't belong...PeACe
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Id love to see a poll by NBA GM's as to who they would rather have on their team, Kobe or LeBron. Id put my money on 99.9% of the votes going to LeBron
Surprisingly, they already made that poll and, guess what?, Kobe won 100% of the preferences. Now shut the fuck up. Out.
LMFAO...What a dumbass. I've already mentioned this poll so many times as well...LMAO@99.9% of the votes going to LeBron and him being 100% wrong...Get out of this conversation man, you seriously don't belong...PeACe
For real.
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^^^lol@ you saying i lost because i made more sense then you....wow, you ARE stupid
you made more sense? ??? :grumpy:......i feel sorry for you..you're hate is very strong..congradulations on been the #1 most ignorent hater..i'm done with you..it was nice owning you
kobe 16 (57.1%) ;D
Lebron 12 (42.9%) :-X
Total Votes: 28
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all i have to say is when shaq was gone kobe didnt even come near the playoffs while lebron would have went to the playoffs if it wasnt for J-KIDD and Vince Carter
my vote goes to lebron Its his second season and he is just going to improve and dominate this league
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all i have to say is when shaq was gone kobe didnt even come near the playoffs while lebron would have went to the playoffs if it wasnt for J-KIDD and Vince Carter
my vote goes to lebron Its his second season and he is just going to improve and dominate this league
ahhh....i hate killing these arguments because there have been so many but before i do that...lemme address this quote....first of all the lakers were in the playoffs until kobe got injured and lamar also....lebron didnt make the playoffs in a conference where a .500 record will get u the number four seed in the playoffs...i dont doubt lebron will improve of course he will but if u cant make the playoffs in the eastern conference then that says a lot for a player as good as him.....now to the argument...first when u ask a player in the nba (take note these players actually play againt kobe and lebron) who the best player in the nba is they will either say shaq, kobe, duncan or garnett....(for those of you who cant read i didnt mention lebron in there) its arguable between those four....amare has said kobe is the best player in the league, phil jackson has said he is also, not to mention tex winter. byron scott has said hes the best all around player in the nba as has kenny smith. now second kobe has superior defense over lebron...hes shutdown the likes of tmac (in a convincing manner if i recall), ray allen. lebron plays the passing lanes better than kobe. he does get more steals. kobe is a better scorer and hes more clutch than bron. for the people who say that shaq was a major part of the championships, i say of course he was, but i guess shaq had the ball in those fourth quarters that carried the lakers into the next round. for the person who said if lebron was the one with the lakers with shaq they wouldve won three in a row, i dont think so. like i sai before lebron is not clutch yet. maybe in the future but as of now i havent seen anything close to it. as for this season kobe was triple teamed this season all the time and that is why his percentage went down. im not saying hes perfect because he isnt. sometimes he tried to take over too much and sometimes he was too passive but to even bring up the argument between kobe and lebron is really unfair. its like when the bulls were winning at first everybody liked that they won but after a while people starting going against them because they were on top and they dominated the media. and this is whats going on now. people hate that the lakers are always in the media so they try going with the underdog....i havent seen one good argument that says lebron is better than kobe and next time for all the people who respond on these stupid threads make sure someone makes a good argument for the thing that theyre for before responding because this just goes to show you that they do it just to tick people off. if it wouldve been shaq or kobe or duncan and kobe...see thats reasonable....but this bullshit...not even worth it
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all i have to say is when shaq was gone...
..with Phil Jackson, Tex Winter, the Triangle, Devean George (injured 3/4 of the season), Rick Fox, Karl Malone, Horace Grant, Jamal Sampson, Kareem Rush, Gary Payton, Derek Fisher and Jannero Pargo. Did you intentionally forgot about those ones? Cause there are 3 All Of Famers in the list.
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this is kinda comical....fox sports.com had kobe is the 3rd best 2 gaurd right now...and lebron the the best 3...lebron is better at the same point in their careers as kobe and is better than him now head to head...lebron lead his team to more wins this year also...face it...kobe isnt considered an elite player no longer 8)
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WHo's better? Im going with Lebron. No point in arguements here. I've learned that you can't reason with laker fans ;D.
Lebron averaged 27 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds in his second year 8) (just for you laker fans, kobe has never done that).
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Lebron averaged 27 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds in his second year 8) (just for you laker fans, kobe has never done that).
Jordan hasn't either...LMAO...What's your point? You Kobe-haters bring up the absolute worst arguments ever. But it's aiight, cuz that shit gets shut down by me in a second...PeACe
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Lebron averaged 27 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds in his second year 8) (just for you laker fans, kobe has never done that).
Jordan hasn't either...LMAO...What's your point? You Kobe-haters bring up the absolute worst arguments ever. But it's aiight, cuz that shit gets shut down by me in a second...PeACe
LOL, I know Jordan hasn't either. My point is, if Lebron can average those numbers in his second year...wow :o. Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause that dude can play.
Reall,y the Lebron vs Kobe thing can go two-ways. Each way you're a winner. But I go with Lebron. PeACe.
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Lebron averaged 27 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds in his second year 8) (just for you laker fans, kobe has never done that).
Jordan hasn't either...LMAO...What's your point? You Kobe-haters bring up the absolute worst arguments ever. But it's aiight, cuz that shit gets shut down by me in a second...PeACe
LOL, I know Jordan hasn't either. My point is, if Lebron can average those numbers in his second year...wow :o. Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause that dude can play.
Reall,y the Lebron vs Kobe thing can go two-ways. Each way you're a winner. But I go with Lebron. PeACe.
It doesn't go two ways, only on this board. Wade vs. LeBron goes two ways. T-Mac vs. Vince goes two ways. Yao vs. Amare goes two ways. Kobe vs. LeBron does NOT go two ways...Any basketball analyst or NBA expert will tell you there is no comparison thus far...
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Lebron averaged 27 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds in his second year 8) (just for you laker fans, kobe has never done that).
Jordan hasn't either...LMAO...What's your point? You Kobe-haters bring up the absolute worst arguments ever. But it's aiight, cuz that shit gets shut down by me in a second...PeACe
LOL, I know Jordan hasn't either. My point is, if Lebron can average those numbers in his second year...wow :o. Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause that dude can play.
Reall,y the Lebron vs Kobe thing can go two-ways. Each way you're a winner. But I go with Lebron. PeACe.
.Any basketball analyst or NBA expert will tell you there is no comparison thus far...
LOL, only on this board? Oh really? I would like to see some PROOF there. Maybe if they're talking about careers. But as to who is the better player right now, i'm not too sure. So give me some links where ALL the NBA experts and basketball analysts say Kobe is better than Lebron. Maybe start some topics at other FORUMS about Kobe vs Lebron and lets see what people say? Otherwise, don't make such bold statements. PeACe.
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Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause..
This line pretty much explain everything.
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Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause..
This line pretty much explain everything.
Yea basketball does suck. It really does. But i still know a hell of a lot about it. I probably know as much as you or more, who knows? I play those NBA fantasy leagues all the time (for money), for about 4 years now. Hell, I won DUBCC's Basketball Fantasy Pool (easily). So I need to keep up to date on players and teams.
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Lebron averaged 27 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds in his second year 8) (just for you laker fans, kobe has never done that).
Jordan hasn't either...LMAO...What's your point? You Kobe-haters bring up the absolute worst arguments ever. But it's aiight, cuz that shit gets shut down by me in a second...PeACe
LOL, I know Jordan hasn't either. My point is, if Lebron can average those numbers in his second year...wow :o. Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause that dude can play.
Reall,y the Lebron vs Kobe thing can go two-ways. Each way you're a winner. But I go with Lebron. PeACe.
.Any basketball analyst or NBA expert will tell you there is no comparison thus far...
LOL, only on this board? Oh really? I would like to see some PROOF there. Maybe if they're talking about careers. But as to who is the better player right now, i'm not too sure. So give me some links where ALL the NBA experts and basketball analysts say Kobe is better than Lebron. Maybe start some topics at other FORUMS about Kobe vs Lebron and lets see what people say? Otherwise, don't make such bold statements. PeACe.
This year, all 30 of the general managers participated in the NBA.com's third annual survey of
National Basketball Association general managers.
Every one of them said the Lakers' Bryant was the best shooting guard in the
NBA.
8) 8) 8)
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Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause..
This line pretty much explain everything.
Yea basketball does suck. It really does. But i still know a hell of a lot about it. I probably know as much as you or more, who knows? I play those NBA fantasy leagues all the time (for money), for about 4 years now. Hell, I won DUBCC's Basketball Fantasy Pool (easily). So I need to keep up to date on players and teams.
Basketball sucks? This explains a lot...LMAO@"Kobe dickriders"...
"I only watch LeBron. Hehe!"...Yea, I think I'd rather be a "Kobe dickrider"... :-X
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Lebron averaged 27 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds in his second year 8) (just for you laker fans, kobe has never done that).
Jordan hasn't either...LMAO...What's your point? You Kobe-haters bring up the absolute worst arguments ever. But it's aiight, cuz that shit gets shut down by me in a second...PeACe
LOL, I know Jordan hasn't either. My point is, if Lebron can average those numbers in his second year...wow :o. Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause that dude can play.
Reall,y the Lebron vs Kobe thing can go two-ways. Each way you're a winner. But I go with Lebron. PeACe.
.Any basketball analyst or NBA expert will tell you there is no comparison thus far...
LOL, only on this board? Oh really? I would like to see some PROOF there. Maybe if they're talking about careers. But as to who is the better player right now, i'm not too sure. So give me some links where ALL the NBA experts and basketball analysts say Kobe is better than Lebron. Maybe start some topics at other FORUMS about Kobe vs Lebron and lets see what people say? Otherwise, don't make such bold statements. PeACe.
This year, all 30 of the general managers participated in the NBA.com's third annual survey of
National Basketball Association general managers.
Every one of them said the Lakers' Bryant was the best shooting guard in the
NBA.
8) 8) 8)
which means absolutely nothing considering LeBron is NOT a SG.......coming from NIK who says "I know my basketball ask anyone"
Everyone knows LeBron is listed as a SF, and if hes not at SF its PG......
NIK, why dont you make a thread that goes "DubCC, some people think that LeBron is better than Kobe, what should I do? What should I do DubCC?
:P
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Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause..
This line pretty much explain everything.
Yea basketball does suck. It really does. But i still know a hell of a lot about it. I probably know as much as you or more, who knows? I play those NBA fantasy leagues all the time (for money), for about 4 years now. Hell, I won DUBCC's Basketball Fantasy Pool (easily). So I need to keep up to date on players and teams.
Basketball sucks? This explains a lot...LMAO@"Kobe dickriders"...
"I only watch LeBron. Hehe!"...Yea, I think I'd rather be a "Kobe dickrider"... :-X
lol.Where did I call you a Kobe dickrider? You're making arguements out of nothing ???.
Lebron averaged 27 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds in his second year 8) (just for you laker fans, kobe has never done that).
Jordan hasn't either...LMAO...What's your point? You Kobe-haters bring up the absolute worst arguments ever. But it's aiight, cuz that shit gets shut down by me in a second...PeACe
LOL, I know Jordan hasn't either. My point is, if Lebron can average those numbers in his second year...wow :o. Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause that dude can play.
Reall,y the Lebron vs Kobe thing can go two-ways. Each way you're a winner. But I go with Lebron. PeACe.
.Any basketball analyst or NBA expert will tell you there is no comparison thus far...
LOL, only on this board? Oh really? I would like to see some PROOF there. Maybe if they're talking about careers. But as to who is the better player right now, i'm not too sure. So give me some links where ALL the NBA experts and basketball analysts say Kobe is better than Lebron. Maybe start some topics at other FORUMS about Kobe vs Lebron and lets see what people say? Otherwise, don't make such bold statements. PeACe.
This year, all 30 of the general managers participated in the NBA.com's third annual survey of
National Basketball Association general managers.
Every one of them said the Lakers' Bryant was the best shooting guard in the
NBA.
8) 8) 8)
LOL. Thanks for that information, im still waiting for the NBA experts sources. PeACe.
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Hey how come no ones responded to my post....it was pretty long and i did take a long time thinkin it up do u guys have nothing to say....because u cant back it up with a good argument
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Hey how come no ones responded to my post....it was pretty long and i did take a long time thinkin it up do u guys have nothing to say....because u cant back it up with a good argument
because you touch yourself at night.
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Lebron averaged 27 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds in his second year 8) (just for you laker fans, kobe has never done that).
Jordan hasn't either...LMAO...What's your point? You Kobe-haters bring up the absolute worst arguments ever. But it's aiight, cuz that shit gets shut down by me in a second...PeACe
LOL, I know Jordan hasn't either. My point is, if Lebron can average those numbers in his second year...wow :o. Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause that dude can play.
Reall,y the Lebron vs Kobe thing can go two-ways. Each way you're a winner. But I go with Lebron. PeACe.
.Any basketball analyst or NBA expert will tell you there is no comparison thus far...
LOL, only on this board? Oh really? I would like to see some PROOF there. Maybe if they're talking about careers. But as to who is the better player right now, i'm not too sure. So give me some links where ALL the NBA experts and basketball analysts say Kobe is better than Lebron. Maybe start some topics at other FORUMS about Kobe vs Lebron and lets see what people say? Otherwise, don't make such bold statements. PeACe.
This year, all 30 of the general managers participated in the NBA.com's third annual survey of
National Basketball Association general managers.
Every one of them said the Lakers' Bryant was the best shooting guard in the
NBA.
8) 8) 8)
which means absolutely nothing considering LeBron is NOT a SG.......coming from NIK who says "I know my basketball ask anyone"
Everyone knows LeBron is listed as a SF, and if hes not at SF its PG......
NIK, why dont you make a thread that goes "DubCC, some people think that LeBron is better than Kobe, what should I do? What should I do DubCC?
:P
LeBron was included in the survey as a forward/guard, dumbass...You're so fucking basketball retarded that you don't realize that LeBron's position is a given amongst those who know what they're speaking of. LOL...You've already been booted from this discussion, son...PeACe
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Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause..
This line pretty much explain everything.
Yea basketball does suck. It really does. But i still know a hell of a lot about it. I probably know as much as you or more, who knows? I play those NBA fantasy leagues all the time (for money), for about 4 years now. Hell, I won DUBCC's Basketball Fantasy Pool (easily). So I need to keep up to date on players and teams.
Basketball sucks? This explains a lot...LMAO@"Kobe dickriders"...
"I only watch LeBron. Hehe!"...Yea, I think I'd rather be a "Kobe dickrider"... :-X
lol.Where did I call you a Kobe dickrider? You're making arguements out of nothing ???.
Nobody said you called me a Kobe dickrider...Just funny how everyone makes it seem like there are so many Kobe-dickriders on this board, when we got people acting like LeBron is the almighty saviour of basketball and then we got some people saying they only watch basketball for LeBron...Come on now, I know you see my point...PeACe
Lebron averaged 27 points, 7 assists, 7 rebounds in his second year 8) (just for you laker fans, kobe has never done that).
Jordan hasn't either...LMAO...What's your point? You Kobe-haters bring up the absolute worst arguments ever. But it's aiight, cuz that shit gets shut down by me in a second...PeACe
LOL, I know Jordan hasn't either. My point is, if Lebron can average those numbers in his second year...wow :o. Anywayz, basketball sucks. But I watch it anytime Lebron is playing cause that dude can play.
Reall,y the Lebron vs Kobe thing can go two-ways. Each way you're a winner. But I go with Lebron. PeACe.
.Any basketball analyst or NBA expert will tell you there is no comparison thus far...
LOL, only on this board? Oh really? I would like to see some PROOF there. Maybe if they're talking about careers. But as to who is the better player right now, i'm not too sure. So give me some links where ALL the NBA experts and basketball analysts say Kobe is better than Lebron. Maybe start some topics at other FORUMS about Kobe vs Lebron and lets see what people say? Otherwise, don't make such bold statements. PeACe.
This year, all 30 of the general managers participated in the NBA.com's third annual survey of
National Basketball Association general managers.
Every one of them said the Lakers' Bryant was the best shooting guard in the
NBA.
8) 8) 8)
LOL. Thanks for that information, im still waiting for the NBA experts sources. PeACe.
Watch any sports program or listen to any sports radio program this coming basketball season for that one... :-*
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* Selected to the 1999-2000 All-Defensive First Team
* Selected to the 2001-2002 All-Defensive Second Team
* Selected to the 2002-03 All-Defensive First Team
* Selected to the 2003-04 All-Defensive First Team
Something LeBronze can only dream about.
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Hey how come no ones responded to my post....it was pretty long and i did take a long time thinkin it up do u guys have nothing to say....because u cant back it up with a good argument
because you touch yourself at night.
i think everyone touches themselves....i know i do...how else would one take a shower, put on cologne, put on lotion, wash ur face....i guess some of us dont practice those things
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Nobody said you called me a Kobe dickrider...Just funny how everyone makes it seem like there are so many Kobe-dickriders on this board, when we got people acting like LeBron is the almighty saviour of basketball and then we got some people saying they only watch basketball for LeBron...Come on now, I know you see my point...PeACe
Watch any sports program or listen to any sports radio program this coming basketball season for that one... :-*
I watch basketball if its on any spoirts channel and if lebron is playin Or its a big ass game (like miami vs lakers).
And I'll be sure to catch some sports radio programs ;D
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lebron
:-X
and you was talkin shit to doggy for the thread he made? LOL.