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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Dope Money Clean on April 28, 2002, 09:42:46 PM
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What is he thinking ???
I may be late ........ but i heard he produced most of his album !! I heard all the hooks and those beats sound BELOW PAR !!
why doesnt he just let Dre handle the production ?!
I think that is a big mistake !!
That would actually be REAL DOPE if he got producers like Battlecat , Alchemist , or Scott Storch to lace him with beats !! That shit would be fire !!
STEP AWAY FROM THE MPC !!! STICK WITH RAPPIN HOMIE !!! LET THE TRAINED PROFESSIONALS TAKE CARE OF YOU !!!
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What's up with all these spaces in between your words? ... anyway I think Eminem is a talented producer... look at "The Way I Am", "Amercian Psycho" & "Renegade"... all dope beats... I can't see how you can complain about the "Eminem Show" snippets either... I didn't find a single below-par beat, but it's all opinions, peace.
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i dont even think he really produced THE WAY I AM
he doesnt play the keyboard and those sound like some Dre / Mel-Man drums . I think he might of added somethin to that beat and dre was like ......... OK WE'LL PUT YOUR NAME ON THE CREDITS LIL FELLA
He should step away from the boards and let the trained professionals handle it . HIS MUSIC WILL SOUND ALOT BETTER IN THE END !!
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i dont even think he really produced THE WAY I AM
he doesnt play the keyboard and those sound like some Dre / Mel-Man drums . I think he might of added somethin to that beat and dre was like ......... OK WE'LL PUT YOUR NAME ON THE CREDITS LIL FELLA
He should step away from the boards and let the trained professionals handle it . HIS MUSIC WILL SOUND ALOT BETTER IN THE END !!
Well, Rud might agree with you.. but I don't.
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He's a good producer. One of the few great rappers that can actually produce.
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What's up with all these spaces in between your words? ...
Hes got a phobia kinda, hes scared of words with less spaces between em or sumtin, lol, pz
-{bLaDe}
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if yall havent figured it out yet, after emimen have made a beat, dre corects it, edits it and makes it much tighter than it were from tha beginning.... so all them eminem beats were 10 times wacker before dre edited them...
conclusion: eminem cant produce
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i dont like em's beats. ;)
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if yall havent figured it out yet, after emimen have made a beat, dre corects it, edits it and makes it much tighter than it were from tha beginning.... so all them eminem beats were 10 times wacker before dre edited them...
conclusion: eminem cant produce
Umm.... where did you hear/read this ?
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Umm.... where did you hear/read this ?
by the guys in my studio.... eminem is an amateur, producer .. ..ghe aint even an amater producer, since he dont procduce track.. he's below the status of an amateur producer .... aint no way dre would let him have his own produced tracks on his albums
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if yall havent figured it out yet, after emimen have made a beat, dre corects it, edits it and makes it much tighter than it were from tha beginning.... so all them eminem beats were 10 times wacker before dre edited them...
conclusion: eminem cant produce
how do u know that?
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by the guys in my studio.... eminem is an amateur, producer .. ..ghe aint even an amater producer, since he dont procduce track.. he's below the status of an amateur producer .... aint no way dre would let him have his own produced tracks on his albums
Do the guys in your studio have any connections at all to Eminem or his record label ?
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i bet u can't produce either,but if eminem can't then y is he so successful apart from dre's help bitch,so shut the fuck up and thin b4 u say shit nex time
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if yall havent figured it out yet, after emimen have made a beat, dre corects it, edits it and makes it much tighter than it were from tha beginning.... so all them eminem beats were 10 times wacker before dre edited them...
conclusion: eminem cant produce
your sh1t.
anyway ems beats are tight. i don't get bored of those beats
unlike some of dre's beats.
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haters.... jealousy is a bitch
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^^^^word^^^^
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infamous_smokey .. take your net-gansta carisma someplace else
Do the guys in your studio have any connections at all to Eminem or his record label ?
no they dont... but the do know how things work on a studio
haters.... jealousy is a bitch
Ant...why am i a hater .. and why am i jealous??
how do u know that?
cuz thats the way things works ... eminem aint the only rapper who've produced beats ... even snoop have been credited for producing couple beats, but like with eminem i dont think that he did it alone....
im not im not only talking about eminem, im talking about rappers that have produced couple tracks in general .. eminem cant have learned to produce high-quality beats in 1-2 years, specially not when most of his time is being spent on writing lyrics and recording tracks...
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i do believe em is getting alot ( ALOT ) help from other producers when it comes to producing
the best mc / producer is Pete Rock
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WAKE UP FOOLS
it's not really that hard to make beats!
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WAKE UP FOOLS
it's not really that hard to make beats!
....Says The No. 1 Fan Of Fabulous.... ::)
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WAKE UP FOOLS
it's not really that hard to make beats!
why dont you make a beat and let me lissen to it... ::)
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First of all it's way too early to totally write Em off as a 'whack' producer, shit it's not like he's been doing this for years, give the man a chance to game up, gain more experience & confidence. He's learning from the best, Dre, give him a couple more years & who knows how he'll grow. I don't know about y'all but I thought "Renegade" was smoking, & we've yet to hear all of the beats he's got in store for us on "The EMINEM Show".
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That would actually be REAL DOPE if he got producers like Battlecat , Alchemist , or Scott Storch to lace him with beats !! That shit would be fire !!
STEP AWAY FROM THE MPC !!! STICK WITH RAPPIN HOMIE !!! LET THE TRAINED PROFESSIONALS TAKE CARE OF YOU !!!
Don't even go there saying Battlecat should be lacing tracks for Eminem. Your just being a dunmbass. Em is a good producer right now, and he will only get better as he maturs. Wait till the Obie Trice album comes out, I bet you Em will do most of that one too.
With Eminem doin his own beats, his style is more of his own, and more original.
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STOP HATING
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im not hating.. i just said the way thins work... yall dont need to belive if yall dont want to.. yall can continue to think that eminem makes all his beats by himself
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im not hating.. i just said the way thins work... yall dont need to belive if yall dont want to.. yall can continue to think that eminem makes all his beats by himself
Unless you have been present at every one of the locations Eminem has ever recorded/produced his tracks, you cannot determine if he has made them himself or not.
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Unless you have been present at every one of the locations Eminem has ever recorded/produced his tracks, you cannot determine if he has made them himself or not.
:-/ ....
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:-/ ....
Alright, let me add a word to that sentence, in case you didn't understand... it is of course possible to read the album credits.
Unless you have been present at every one of the locations Eminem has ever recorded/produced his tracks, you cannot determine if he has REALLY made them himself or not.
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infamous_smokey .. take your net-gansta carisma someplace else
no they dont... but the do know how things work on a studio
Ant...why am i a hater .. and why am i jealous??
cuz thats the way things works ... eminem aint the only rapper who've produced beats ... even snoop have been credited for producing couple beats, but like with eminem i dont think that he did it alone....
im not im not only talking about eminem, im talking about rappers that have produced couple tracks in general .. eminem cant have learned to produce high-quality beats in 1-2 years, specially not when most of his time is being spent on writing lyrics and recording tracks...
ummm... so you're saying it takes how long to learn how to produce? didn't seem to take daz more than 2 years.....
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daz and warren g was sittin next to dre, when dre produced tracks for doggysyle and the chronic... they were lerning everything dre was saying , and most important.. they werent busy with anything else, so they could learn 24/7
eminem have been busy with inteviews, writing alotta rhymes, recording alotta videos, being frotpage in alotta magz, traveling across the whole usa for comcerts, travelling across the whole europe for concerts and interviews and magz. taking care of his group d12, making making evertyhing i said above, but for d12. ... ... i can continue ...
anyway... theres not much time left to sit with dre and learn how to produce.... when daz and warren g learned to produce by dre, they didnt do anything else important that took their time...
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daz and warren g was sittin next to dre, when dre produced tracks for doggysyle and the chronic... they were lerning everything dre was saying , and most important.. they werent busy with anything else, so they could learn 24/7
eminem have been busy with inteviews, writing alotta rhymes, recording alotta videos, being frotpage in alotta magz, traveling across the whole usa for comcerts, travelling across the whole europe for concerts and interviews and magz. taking care of his group d12, making making evertyhing i said above, but for d12. ... ... i can continue ...
Eminem entirely produced the "Infinite" EP, released in 1995, 1996 on Web Entertainment. He carried some experience as an producer before he signed to Aftermath Entertainment. Kon Artis thought him the art of producing back in the days in Detriot, and being in a studio with Dre have also certainly sharpened his skills... his production skills have steadily improved to this day. Today, I consider Eminem a great producer, up there with Timbaland & Alchemist... next time, don't speak out of ignorance.
~1~
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being in a studio with Dre have also certainly sharpened his skills... his production skills have steadily improved to this day. Today, I consider Eminem a great producer, up there with Timbaland & Alchemist... next time, don't speak out of ignorance.
WELL SAID !!
EMINEM IS A VERY TALENTED BLOKE IMO ;D
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Eminem entirely produced the "Infinite" EP, released in 1995, 1996 on Web Entertainment. He carried some experience as an producer before he signed to Aftermath Entertainment. Kon Artis thought him the art of producing back in the days in Detriot, and being in a studio with Dre have also certainly sharpened his skills... his production skills have steadily improved to this day. Today, I consider Eminem a great producer, up there with Timbaland & Alchemist... next time, don't speak out of ignorance.
~1~
bigjakedoggydogg no:2
timbaland and alchemist aint on the same level... timaland is on the same level as JD and Dr Dre and RZA....
i dont feel the alchemist beats, but the eminem beats aint even near alchemist beats ... if eminem was so good.. how come he only produces for himself and his group d12?? .. + couple tracks he's feautured in...
i dont know how much knowledge you got about the production buisness...
ill end the discussion HERE
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....Says The No. 1 Fan Of Fabulous.... ::)
LOL
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bigjakedoggydogg no:2
timbaland and alchemist aint on the same level... timaland is on the same level as JD and Dr Dre and RZA....
i dont feel the alchemist beats, but the eminem beats aint even near alchemist beats ... if eminem was so good.. how come he only produces for himself and his group d12?? .. + couple tracks he's feautured in...
i dont know how much knowledge you got about the production buisness...
ill end the discussion HERE
Well, saying how good Eminem, Alchemist & Timbaland are is opinions... funny how you all of sudden dropped the "Eminem can't produce" charges.... ;)
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Today, I consider Eminem a great producer, up there with Timbaland & Alchemist.
Umm. NO! Eminem isn't even a great producer. He is good but not great. His beats are simple. Half of his beats suck. Beats are matter of opinion but it takes more skill and creativity to make a Timbaland beat than an Eminem beat.
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Umm. NO! Eminem isn't even a great producer. He is good but not great. His beats are simple. Half of his beats suck. Beats are matter of opinion but it takes more skill and creativity to make a Timbaland beat than an Eminem beat.
You have your opinion, and I have mine. Actually I consider Eminem a better producer than Timbaland, but once again, that's MY OPINION.
~1~
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Y'all talkin about the simplicity of his beats but listen to still D.r.E... It's a good beat but tell me it wasnt simple
If you don't like a producer, it dosent means he's wak, if you're close minded, you will listen to Nas all your life and will never appreciate the new sound, I'm sure the same person complaining about Em's style of producing are the ones who wants Dre to produce like back in the days
Keep ur eyes n' hears open, not juss the mouth or the keyboard
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You Tell People Not To Speak In Ignorance But You Do It Freely Every Post, Blinded By You Own Ignorance. Hey I Aint Trying To Start Net Beef With Ya (Trust Me I Got Better Things To Do)
Eminem entirely produced the "Infinite" EP, released in 1995, 1996 on Web Entertainment
Where You Hear This?! Eminem Did Not Produce All Of Infinite
ALL THIS THREAD IS OPINIONS
People Will Love, People Will Hate And Others Will State Opinions
peace
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Well, saying how good Eminem, Alchemist & Timbaland are is opinions... funny how you all of sudden dropped the "Eminem can't produce" charges.... ;)
well:
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The Bassmint Tapes
Main Producer(s) Mark EP
Beats At Will [1994]
01. Crackers And Cheese
Infinite
Main Producer(s) Denaun Porter
Web Entertainment [1996]
01. Infinite
02. W.E.G.O
03. It's Okay
04. Tonite
05. 313
06. Maxine
07. Open Mic
08. Never 2 Far
09. Searchin'
10. Backstabber
11. Jealousy Woes
The Slim Shady EP
Main Producer(s) Da Brigade
Web Entertainment [1998]
01. Intro (Slim Shady)
02. Low Down, Dirty
03. If I Had
04. Just Don't Give A Fuck
05. Mommy (Interlude)
06. Just The Two Of Us
07. Murder, Murder
08. No One's Iller
09. If I Had (Radio Edit)
10. Just Dont Give A F--- (Radio Edit)
The Slim Shady LP
Main Producer(s) Mark Bass, Jeff Bass and Dr. Dre
Aftermath Entertainment | Interscope Records [1999]
Web Entertainment
01. Public Service Announcement
02. My Name Is
03. Guilty Conscience
04. Brain Damage
05. Paul
06. If I Had
07. 97' Bonnie & Clyde
08. Bitch
09. Role Model
10. Lounge
11. My Fault
12. Ken Kaniff
13. Cum On Everybody [appearance by Dina Rea]
14. Rock Bottom
15. Just Don't Give A Fuck [appearance by Frogg]
16. Soap
17. As The World Turns
18. I'm Shady
19. Bad Meets Evil [feat. Royce da 5'9"]
20. Still Don't Give A Fuck
The Marshall Mathers LP
Main Producer(s) Dr. Dre
Aftermath Entertainment | Interscope Records [2000]
Goliath Artists | Web Entertainment
01. Public Service Announcement 2000
02. Kill You
03. Stan
04. Paul (skit)
05. Who Knew
06. Steve Berman
07. The Way I am
08. The Real Slim Shady
09. Remember Me? (feat. RBX and Sticky Fingaz)
10. I'm Back
11. Marshall Mathers
12. Ken Kaniff
13. Drug Ballad [appearance by Dina Rea]
14. Amityville [with Bizarre of D-12]
15. Bitch Please II
16. Kim
17. Under The Influence [feat. D-12]
18. Criminal
Devils Night
Main Producer(s) Eminem
Shady Records | Interscope Records [2001]
01. Another Public Service Announcement
02. Shit Can Happen
03. Pistol, Pistol
04. Bizarre (skit)
05. Nasty Mind
06. Ain't Nuttin But Music
07. American Psycho
08. That's How (skit)
09. That's How
10. Purple Pills
11. Fight Music
12. Instigator
13. Pimp Like Me [appearance by Dina Rea]
14. Blow My Buzz
15. Obie Trice (skit)
16. Devil's Night
17. Steve Berman (skit)
18. Revelation
19. Girls [Hidden Track]
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You Tell People Not To Speak In Ignorance But You Do It Freely Every Post, Blinded By You Own Ignorance. Hey I Aint Trying To Start Net Beef With Ya (Trust Me I Got Better Things To Do)
Where You Hear This?! Eminem Did Not Produce All Of Infinite
ALL THIS THREAD IS OPINIONS
People Will Love, People Will Hate And Others Will State Opinions
peace
i did some background checking and it seems like a guy named "Denaun Porter" produced Infinite... NOT Eminem, like KVB claimed (check my earlier post)... so i would like to know where KVB got his "reilable" information... ::)
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i did some background checking and it seems like a guy named "Denaun Porter" produced Infinite... NOT Eminem, like KVB claimed (check my earlier post)... so i would like to know where KVB got his "reilable" information... ::)
Yea Props I-Bo
Denaun Porter = Kon Artis
peace
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You Tell People Not To Speak In Ignorance But You Do It Freely Every Post, Blinded By You Own Ignorance. Hey I Aint Trying To Start Net Beef With Ya (Trust Me I Got Better Things To Do)
On the back of the "Infinite" album cover, it says "Produced By Eminem". THAT MEANS THAT EMINEM PRODUCED EVERY TRACK.
I am deeply insulted by you telling me I am speaking in ignorance in every post... but I'm mature enough not to call you bitch, faggot etc... so PLEASE, tell me all about my posts which I spoke blinded in my own ignorance.
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On the back of the "Infinite" album cover, it says "Produced By Eminem". THAT MEANS THAT EMINEM PRODUCED EVERY TRACK.
I am deeply insulted by you telling me I am speaking in ignorance in every post... but I'm mature enough not to call you bitch, faggot etc... so PLEASE, tell me all about my posts which I spoke blinded in my own ignorance.
Quit Trying To Talk Down To Me - Your Impressing No one - Read Your Posts - You Are So Wrapped Up In What You Say You Are Blind To The Facts
And There Is NO Eminem Album Cover (As In Back Cover) There Is A Sleeve With The Vinyl In It (If On The Original Copies Of The Vinyl It Says "All Tracks Produced By Eminem Then I Retract My Statement If Not Youve Seen A Fake Pic)
peace
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Go on hating me... if you insist that Kon Artis produced the title track, "Infinite" that's fine with me... I don't really care, I just trust the text on official album covers
Peace
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First of all every beat that Eminem has produced (co-produced) has been good to great. He has a great track record when it comes to the songs whose production he has been involved with, but he has produced almost no tracks on his own.
If you read the credits you will see that DJ Head does the drum programing for almost all tracks that Em produced on MMLP and Devil's Night. You will also see that there is help from Jeff Bass, Kon Artist or Co Production from them.
What this means is that Eminem is a very good producer, but an incomplete one. When he learns to program the drums himself and produces tracks entirely by himself, then you can consider him a true great producer.
At the moment I don't consider Em a great producer by himself, instead I look for any tracks produced by Eminem and F.B.T., but the credits to The Eminem Show may have Em producing on his own.
The beats that Eminem and F.B.T did on MMLP and Devils Night are very tight and that is a FACT, fuck opinion. If you don't like them that is your problem, but that does not change the fact that they are very good. From what I can tell from the preview of the Eminem Show, the beats will be just as good if not better.
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Go on hating me... if you insist that Kon Artis produced the title track, "Infinite" that's fine with me... I don't really care, I just trust the text on official album covers
Peace
I Assume That Was Made Without Seeing My Post Regarding Album Covers Because Theres Only A Few Seconds Between Postings
peace
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Quit Trying To Talk Down To Me - Your Impressing No one - Read Your Posts - You Are So Wrapped Up In What You Say You Are Blind To The Facts
And There Is NO Eminem Album Cover (As In Back Cover) There Is A Sleeve With The Vinyl In It (If On The Original Copies Of The Vinyl It Says "All Tracks Produced By Eminem Then I Retract My Statement If Not Youve Seen A Fake Pic)
peace
I'm not trying to talk down to you or anybody... and I'm not trying to impress anybody... if you wish me to leave this board, go ahead and tell me... from my viewpoint, you're attacking me, saying I'm ignorant when spreading the information I've gathered from various sources... when posting these, you tell me I'm wrong... and my back album CD cover looks real, black front and back, tracklisting in the middle, below reads: "Produced By Eminem".
Please tell me more about my posts which I spoke blinded in my own ignorance.
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ive seen the cover .. it looks like a first draft bootleg cover with the easiest photoshop filters...
what im trying to say is that they just wrote it quick... u must not forget thats its also written "P.O.T Productions" .. and im not even sure if its the original cover, or if its something they added later...
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I'm not trying to talk down to you or anybody... and I'm not trying to impress anybody... if you wish me to leave this board, go ahead and tell me... from my viewpoint, you're attacking me, saying I'm ignorant when spreading the information I've gathered from various sources... when posting these, you tell me I'm wrong... and my back album CD cover looks real, black front and back, tracklisting in the middle, below reads: "Produced By Eminem".
Please tell me more about my posts which I spoke blinded in my own ignorance.
Read Your Posts And You'll See In Places You Act Like Your Above People! Anyway...Why The Fuck Would I Wish ANYONE To Leave This Board (Except Annoying People Like Dbomb Was!!)
Were A Community Who Learn And Bounce Both Knowledge And Ideas Off Each Other. Today I Dissagree On A Topic With You And Feel Youve Made Ignorant Comments, Tomorrow I May Totally Agree With You On Another Topic And Respect What Youve Said - In That Respect Its All Swings And Roundabouts.
I Am Not Attacking You Personally Im Dissagreeing With Some Of The Things You Say And Pointing Out Where Your Sources May Be Wrong
I Have No Doubt You Have The Infinite Covers With The Eminem At The Top And Infinte Below With A Space Type Scene In The Middle And On The Back A Tracklisting With Eminem Down One Side And Infinite On The Another
Maybe Like This -
(http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_12e259aec4513e2651d4c0fe5/i-1.JPG)
They Are Fake And Sold With CD-R's :-/
And The Posts Youve Written In Ignorance Are The Ones Where You Just Believe All You Have Read Looking On The Internet And Say It Here (Im The 1st To Hold My Hands Up And Admit I Have Been At Fault For That In The Past And Ive No Doubt I Will Be Again) Accept That Occasionally Your Info Will be Wrong Due To Various Sources
Believe Me I Aint Attacking You On A Personal Level Just Pointing Out Flaws In This Discussion
peace
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ive seen the cover .. it looks like a first draft bootleg cover with the easiest photoshop filters...
what im trying to say is that they just wrote it quick... u must not forget thats its also written "P.O.T Productions" .. and im not even sure if its the original cover, or if its something they added later...
That's the cover I got... if that one doesn't happen to be real, I apologize... as you probably understand I was convinced that Eminem produced the album when reading the back cover, as you probably understand... but until you prove me wrong, I'm still gonna stand by my word... and don't call me ignorant because of this... anybody would fall for this, especially when considering all the other info I gathered from other sources, pointing at this fact... and to I-BO, I don't wish to stir up our realitionship, I hope I'm still cool with you.. don't let this disagreement go to your head... at least I'm man enough to admit failure when proven wrong... so Rud, please prove me wrong
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Was That "Man Enough To Admit When Im Wrong" Aimed At Me?!
Prove You Wrong About What? - Eminem Producing Infinite?
I Cant Fully - Nor Can You Prove That He Did - All You Have Is A Bootleg CD Cover To Back Up What You Believe. All I Have Is My Knowledge Of Eminem And Things I Have Heard/Researched
And Listen To Infinte Some Of Those Beats If They Were CDQ Are Better Than What Em Has Done Recently - Why Would he Regress?
IMO And To My Knowledge Eminem Did Not Produce All Of Infinite
peace
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Read Your Posts And You'll See In Places You Act Like Your Above People! Anyway...Why The Fuck Would I Wish ANYONE To Leave This Board (Except Annoying People Like Dbomb Was!!)
Were A Community Who Learn And Bounce Both Knowledge And Ideas Off Each Other. Today I Dissagree On A Topic With You And Feel Youve Made Ignorant Comments, Tomorrow I May Totally Agree With You On Another Topic And Respect What Youve Said - In That Respect Its All Swings And Roundabouts.
I Am Not Attacking You Personally Im Dissagreeing With Some Of The Things You Say And Pointing Out Where Your Sources May Be Wrong
I Have No Doubt You Have The Infinite Covers With The Eminem At The Top And Infinte Below With A Space Type Scene In The Middle And On The Back A Tracklisting With Eminem Down One Side And Infinite On The Another
Maybe Like This -
(http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_12e259aec4513e2651d4c0fe5/i-1.JPG)
They Are Fake And Sold With CD-R's :-/
And The Posts Youve Written In Ignorance Are The Ones Where You Just Believe All You Have Read Looking On The Internet And Say It Here (Im The 1st To Hold My Hands Up And Admit I Have Been At Fault For That In The Past And Ive No Doubt I Will Be Again) Accept That Occasionally Your Info Will be Wrong Due To Various Sources
Believe Me I Aint Attacking You On A Personal Level Just Pointing Out Flaws In This Discussion
peace
Alright Rud... you proved me wrong... I admit that, but I still consider my other comments real... please believe me, I know a lot about hiphop music... although I admit I was wrong in this instance.
Peace
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Alright Rud... you proved me wrong... I admit that, but I still consider my other comments real... please believe me, I know a lot about hiphop music... although I admit I was wrong in this instance.
Peace
Props - That Takes A Man To Admit A Mistake And Keep His Head Up About It.
I Respect That You Know Alot About Hip-Hop Alot Of People Here Do,The Ones That Dont Learn Everyday Until They Too Know Loads - Thats Whats Great About This Place.
Once Again Props (And If Ya Check The Fave Drink Thread In Anything Goes You'll See We Do Agree On Somethin!)
peace
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Was That "Man Enough To Admit When Im Wrong" Aimed At Me?!
peace
No, that was not aimed at you, I was speaking about myself.
I was wrong. I apologize.
Peace
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That's the cover I got... if that one doesn't happen to be real, I apologize... as you probably understand I was convinced that Eminem produced the album when reading the back cover, as you probably understand... but until you prove me wrong, I'm still gonna stand by my word... and don't call me ignorant because of this... anybody would fall for this, especially when considering all the other info I gathered from other sources, pointing at this fact... and to I-BO, I don't wish to stir up our realitionship, I hope I'm still cool with you.. don't let this disagreement go to your head... at least I'm man enough to admit failure when proven wrong... so Rud, please prove me wrong
a discussion is a discussion.... nothing more, nothin less
it aint gonna brake a nice realitionship... ;)
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i would just like to point one thing out...
i bo said eminem isnt good cuz he only makes beats for himself, d 12, etc
well actually u seem to forget that he made beats for royce 5'9, and jay z... now ok royce is a close friend but the jay z track was initially supposed to be a royce track as we all know... em made the beat and jay laid out a lot of dough for that track to be on his album!
so there u have it, one of the biggest names in the game layin down dough for an eminem beat
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so he did manage to make a dope beat... there's always exeptions...
Ant, you've been all over me the latest week..first in the classic music thread, you called me moron twice, you called me ignorant, uneducated and whathever and says that i should be banned becuz of my opinion that mozart migh not have been a genius.. and now over here, you callin me a hater and says that im jealous...
i dont even know you and i dont wanna know you
please get off my nuts
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Who cares if Em did all of "Infinite" or not, the album isn't shit, no one cares about it, it isn't a good record.
This topic is about if Em is a good producer or not, not how much he has done.
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just put it this way.. EMINEM IS WAAAYYY BETTER THAN I-BO
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yo i bo is there some rule that i didnt check about you are only allowed to disagree with someone once on this board?
you wrote two things i disagreed with so im refuting them here...
and if proved my point twice... what the deal? i dont know u either but i dont discriminate, u wrote some stuff i thought was wrong so i corrected you..
and about the calling you a hater thing... i was refering to all the people going off about eminem.
however, you were the only one that replied and to answer your question "what are you jealous about?"
i think ur jealous eminem just started makin beats and everyone likes them while ur strugglin to make some hot shit...
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Some of yall need to hop off Eminems coat tail and analyze this shit from a musical perspective ............ I love him as an artist ............ he is one talented muthafucka !!
But just because he is "EMINEM" , yall automatically say his beats are "TIGHT" .......... "HE IS A GREAT PRODUCER !!!"
Stop being a fanatic for one minute and be a critic of music for once !!
BLAHHHHHHHHHHHH
Does Eminem even play any instruments ??? Does he incorporate any live instrumentation in his so called "productions" ?? He has put how many beats ?? 4 ? 5 ? LOL
The definition of a producer >>>>>> Quincy Jones , Dr.Dre , Herbie Hancock , DJ Quik etc ........
I think its great for Eminem to learn the art of producing . But right now it sounds like he is still in training ............. you dont become a producer overnight. All the great ones prolly started out when they were little kids .......... and you look at Quincy Jones or a HErbie Hancock ........... theyve been producin for DECADES !!!
He should just work on his shit and season his game up for now ............ but stick to rappin !!! Let the pro's handle your shit for now !!! Maybe in 10 years he can produce 100% of his album . THE EMINEM SHOW SOUNDS SUSPECT RIGHT NOW !!!
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Some of yall need to hop off Eminems coat tail and analyze this shit from a musical perspective ............ I love him as an artist ............ he is one talented muthafucka !!
But just because he is "EMINEM" , yall automatically say his beats are "TIGHT" .......... "HE IS A GREAT PRODUCER !!!"
Stop being a fanatic for one minute and be a critic of music for once !!
BLAHHHHHHHHHHHH
Does Eminem even play any instruments ??? Does he incorporate any live instrumentation in his so called "productions" ?? He has put how many beats ?? 4 ? 5 ? LOL
The definition of a producer >>>>>> Quincy Jones , Dr.Dre , Herbie Hancock , DJ Quik etc ........
Producers do not need to learn to play any instruments... for instance, look at Megahertz, a very talented producer. Megahertz can't play any instruments, he makes his beats in 15-20 minutes, and still manage to create very dope beats (Nas' "Got Yourself A Gun", P.Diddy's "Bad Boy For Life") for example... so the ability to play instruments is obviously an advantage for hip-hop producers, but it's by means required.
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Thats when the word "Longevity" comes into play.
Believe me , in 10 years Megahertz will be long forgotten.
So will alot of these other so called "HOT" producers that are out right now.
The LEgends will still be there.
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how do you make beats without instruments? faith in the lord?
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i dont feel the alchemist beats
you aint real
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yo i bo is there some rule that i didnt check about you are only allowed to disagree with someone once on this board?
you wrote two things i disagreed with so im refuting them here...
and if proved my point twice... what the deal? i dont know u either but i dont discriminate, u wrote some stuff i thought was wrong so i corrected you..
and about the calling you a hater thing... i was refering to all the people going off about eminem.
however, you were the only one that replied and to answer your question "what are you jealous about?"
i think ur jealous eminem just started makin beats and everyone likes them while ur strugglin to make some hot shit...
calling me names everytime you disagrees to my statements aint a way to handle a conversation...
i do make dope ass beats, ifyou disagrees, you have probably not heard my shit, and i honestly belives i whould make 5 times better, if dre was behind my back...
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i dont feel the alchemist beats
you aint real
....Says The No. 1 Fan Of Fabulous....
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the difference between us is that you like simple beats.
holla back youngn
ohh and spell the name right FA, BO, LO, US.
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the difference between us is that you like simple beats.
well.. ill let u assume that
holla back youngn
how old are u?? cuz u'r actin like a lil geezy .. oh whait. thats what u are
ohh and spell the name right FA, BO, LO, US
aight.. fa b o lo u
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i think i got it now
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God Damn it all i can say is Well I-BO u aint exactly the greatest emcee or producer on the planet are u so.....!!
Peace
Cannabis Crew
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God Damn it all i can say is Well I-BO u aint exactly the greatest emcee or producer on the planet are u so.....!!
Peace
Cannabis Crew
ive never claimed it
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and saying "get off my nuts" is better lol
come on... i called u one name, i said u were being ignorant... thats not even calling you a name.
and anyone that goes on a rampage trying to prove that mozart or whoever isnt really that impressive is kind of ignorant in my opinion..
and on a side note i know a bunch of kids that god a group and make beats... they dont have dre backing their ass and they come with some hot shit too... way better than anything i eva heard on here... so don't front with that "if i had dre id be good as eminem too" no u wouldn't cuz u can't even compete with kids that have the same resources as u.
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Eminem can produce, he is dope, end of.
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and saying "get off my nuts" is better lol
come on... i called u one name, i said u were being ignorant... thats not even calling you a name.
and anyone that goes on a rampage trying to prove that mozart or whoever isnt really that impressive is kind of ignorant in my opinion..
and on a side note i know a bunch of kids that god a group and make beats... they dont have dre backing their ass and they come with some hot shit too... way better than anything i eva heard on here... so don't front with that "if i had dre id be good as eminem too" no u wouldn't cuz u can't even compete with kids that have the same resources as u.
called me 1 name?? more like 6-7 names...
i know what my homeyz think of my beats and i know what the whole board thinks of my beats (exept you off course) ... im not ignorant cuz i think that maby Mozart wasnt a genius ... you dont even know the definition of genius, therefore you shouldnt even open your mouth ...
why dont you tell me the defenition of genius
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he is a ameteur, leave him alone. i know i aint a big eminem fan and i don't usually defend him but he is still pretty new to the game, let him learn...and in another year if he's still shit then we can call his production wack coz he'll have had enough time to make summat half decent...
and yeah i always thought the same thing about mutha funka and all those spaces...its started 2 piss me off...what the fuck is it all about?
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why dont you tell me the defenition of genius
gen·ius Pronunciation Key (jnys)
n. pl. gen·ius·es
Extraordinary intellectual and creative power.
A person of extraordinary intellect and talent: “One is not born a genius, one becomes a genius” (Simone de Beauvoir).
A person who has an exceptionally high intelligence quotient, typically above 140.
A strong natural talent, aptitude, or inclination: has a genius for choosing the right words.
One who has such a talent or inclination: a genius at diplomacy.
The prevailing spirit or distinctive character, as of a place, a person, or an era: the genius of Elizabethan England.
pl. ge·ni·i (jn-) Roman Mythology. A tutelary deity or guardian spirit of a person or place.
A person who has great influence over another.
A jinni in Muslim mythology.
n 1: someone who has exceptional intellectual ability and originality [syn: mastermind, brain] 2: unusual mental ability [syn: brilliance] 3: someone who is very highly skilled [syn: ace, adept, sensation, maven, virtuoso, hotshot, star, whiz, whizz, wizard, wiz] 4: exceptional creative ability [syn: wizardry] 5: a natural talent; "he has a flair for mathematics"; "he has a genius for interior decorating" [syn: flair]
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he is a ameteur, leave him alone. i know i aint a big eminem fan and i don't usually defend him but he is still pretty new to the game, let him learn...and in another year if he's still shit then we can call his production wack coz he'll have had enough time to make summat half decent...
and yeah i always thought the same thing about mutha funka and all those spaces...its started 2 piss me off...what the fuck is it all about?
Thats EXACTLY what im sayin !! People say "EMINEM IS A GREAT PRODUCER!"
Well , yeah DJ Quik is a great producer also. Now how does that make it sound ? Makes it look FOOLISH !! EM is an AMATEUR !!
And yeah i do type with alot of spaces ......... thats just how i like to type ............. It pisses you off ?
Wow!! Never thought i would see the day where someone would throw a temper tantrum over the way someone else types on an internet message board ......... ILL LEAVE YOU ALONE NOW KILLER !!! :-*
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he is a ameteur, leave him alone. i know i aint a big eminem fan and i don't usually defend him but he is still pretty new to the game, let him learn...and in another year if he's still shit then we can call his production wack coz he'll have had enough time to make summat half decent...
and yeah i always thought the same thing about mutha funka and all those spaces...its started 2 piss me off...what the fuck is it all about?
I agree..Let him learn..and those spaces are making my eyes hurt man..and is pissing me off...what kind of problem do u have ?