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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: BizzyR.I.P. on October 05, 2005, 09:29:54 PM
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- Lamar Odom is eager to become Kobe Bryant's sidekick with the new-look Los Angeles Lakers.
And a lot more.
Scottie Pippen, once an acclaimed sidekick himself, is lending a hand in that direction at the behest of Phil Jackson, his former coach in Chicago.
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When Jackson returned to the Lakers for a second time in June, he pointed to Odom's disappointing 2004-05 season and how much he expected from the versatile 6-foot-10 player.
Jackson coached the Michael Jordan-led Chicago Bulls to six championships in the 1990s, with Pippen a secondary star playing a variety of roles including being the leader of Jordan's supporting cast.
Jackson envisions Odom playing in a similar manner in support of Bryant, and that's where Pippen is involved during the Lakers' 10-day training camp at the University of Hawaii.
``We're going to work on it,'' Pippen said. ``He wants to be good. He's always shown signs of being very talented and able to do a lot of things on a basketball court a man of his size usually can't do.''
Jackson said Wednesday there's a good possibility Odom will play every position at one time or another this season, including center.
``He'll be playing out on the perimeter a lot,'' Jackson said. ``How much, I don't know. He might start there the first and third quarters and play a power position in the second and fourth quarters.''
Jackson said it all depends on the Lakers' opposition.
``I think that's the strength to my game,'' the 25-year-old Odom said regarding his versatility. ``I'm not one-dimensional at all. I'm comfortable wherever he wants me to play on the court. I kind of pride myself being able to play any position. Anything to help us create mismatches, I'm willing to do. I always have guard in my game.''
And, as Jackson pointed out, center as well.
Jackson recalled that Pippen took to the triangle offense very well in the 1990-91 season -- the Bulls' first championship year. It really came together after the Bulls went to a two-guard front. With that, Pippen began handling the ball a lot more.
``He's been under five systems in as many years,'' Jackson said of Odom. ``I expect it's going to take some time.''
Odom played mostly power forward last season in his first year with the Lakers, and because of injuries to Bryant and himself, the two were played together in only 50 of the 82 games.
A year earlier, in his only season with the Miami Heat, Odom played power forward quite a bit. But after a horrible start, that team worked together much better than last year's Lakers.
``My natural position is as a perimeter player being too big for a perimeter player,'' Odom said. ``My footspeed is still there. And I feel like I still have the strength of a power forward. I'm looking forward to going back and playing my natural position.''
Pippen didn't play inside as much as Odom has, but handled the ball a lot and defended well against players of several positions.
Because he handled the ball as much as he did, Pippen was known as a point forward.
``It sounds good, something like that,'' Odom said of that kind of assignment for himself.
Odom is still recovering from surgery April 19 to repair a torn labrum in his left shoulder -- an injury that caused him to miss the final 17 games last season. The Lakers went 2-15 during his absence to finish 34-48 and out of the playoffs for just the second time since 1976.
``We didn't protect each other,'' Odom recalled. ``I actually had to go to an enforcer style, and that's not my game. We were just really bad on team defense.''
Look for that to change, because Jackson-coached teams always seem to excel in that area.
``I think with coach here and focusing on (defense), everyone's going to be protected,'' Odom said.
Odom said he's not quite 100 percent healthy yet, but he's getting close.
He did say he hoped to play in all 82 regular-season games.
``I'm pretty sure if I can be on the court the majority of the time, if Kobe can be on the court most of the time, if we can stay healthy, we can make the postseason,'' Odom said.
Bryant said he expects to mesh with Odom better this year.
``I think that'll come as camp continues to unfold,'' Bryant said. ``You have to have a system, you have to have a structure, everybody falls in line. The thing about this offense is every position is interchangeable.''
So, what has Odom learned from Pippen through two days of training camp?
``Different tricks of the trade, different ways to get open, different ways to play defense, different ways to play the game,'' Odom said. ``He knows the triangle inside-out.''
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this can't be good for kobe. he already hates being compared to jordan but now he's got jordan's old coach and jordan's old teammate trying to mold other players to work around him like jordan's teammates used to.
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^especially when he still aint gon be near as successful as Jordan
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^especially when he still aint gon be near as successful as Jordan
And you know this how? You're such a blatant hater.
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and your boy toy Lebron is ::) get of kobes nuts ..you are now the most pathetic kobe hater ever..now you're just saying stupid shit for no reason,that comment is so stupid,Kobe is the closest thing to jordan that you will ever see fool..
Kobe & jordan have won 3 straight championships and have 9 championships combined,but yet he's not as successful as jordan? you're making yourself look dumber then you already are...and!..kobe aint even done yet,he's still going to win more championships
your boy Lebron=Dominique Wilkins,T-Mac-Vince Carter
Kobe=magic,jordan,bird,pippen
and BTW every thing kobe has,he's earned..a franchice wasn't handed to him like all these high draft picks..kobe had to through so much shit to get where he's at. unlike "Lebronze"
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this can't be good for kobe. he already hates being compared to jordan but now he's got jordan's old coach and jordan's old teammate trying to mold other players to work around him like jordan's teammates used to.
that makes no sense...kobe is not tripping of that!,all kobe wants to do is win!..
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^especially when he still aint gon be near as successful as Jordan
And you know this how? You're such a blatant hater.
opinions against kobe=hater...wow....thats some serious dickridin there NIK...
and since when does Kobe hate being compared to Mike? LOL!!! Let me walk....talk....shit, even chew gum like Mike....but i hate being compared to him lol
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btw...i dont really know anything about Pippens coaching ability. I cant imagine Odom bein any worse off for this tho
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^especially when he still aint gon be near as successful as Jordan
And you know this how? You're such a blatant hater.
opinions against kobe=hater...wow....thats some serious dickridin there NIK...
and since when does Kobe hate being compared to Mike? LOL!!! Let me walk....talk....shit, even chew gum like Mike....but i hate being compared to him lol
you do realize you're a moron right?,those are some weak ass disses against kobe... and do you actually "LOL" or is that just the phony in you? every sentence ends with "lol"...you're such a phony
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^especially when he still aint gon be near as successful as Jordan
And you know this how? You're such a blatant hater.
opinions against kobe=hater...wow....thats some serious dickridin there NIK...
and since when does Kobe hate being compared to Mike? LOL!!! Let me walk....talk....shit, even chew gum like Mike....but i hate being compared to him lol
you do realize you're a moron right?,those are some weak ass disses against kobe... and do you actually "LOL" or is that just the phony in you? every sentence ends with "lol"...you're such a phony
funny how we all picture you the same way...sitting at your little desk and playin with your Kobe Bryant action figure. Go away little kid.
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yes,i'm playing with my kobe action figure and tim duncan action figure and i just made kobe dunk on duncan :P
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yes,i'm playing with my kobe action figure and tim duncan action figure and i just made kobe dunk on duncan :P
point proven...
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yes,i'm playing with my kobe action figure and tim duncan action figure and i just made kobe dunk on duncan :P
point proven...
you're dumber then i thought
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Shake hands be friends 8)
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Fuck Odom, this dude is wack. He's too fucking soft, damn! He's unselfish, he always passes the ball, he takes no responsability and it looks like he plays with no passion at all. Shit even the guy in my avatar overplayed him last season. I'd take Artest in his worse day over Odom. This fool needs to wake up and to prove he's actually an All Star material. P.S. If the Bryant-Jordan comparision is wrong, you can't immagine how wrong is to compare Odom to Pippen. It's an insult to Scottie.
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Fuck Odom, this dude is wack. He's too fucking soft, damn! He's unselfish, he always passes the ball, he takes no responsability and it looks like he plays with no passion at all. Shit even the guy in my avatar overplayed him last season. I'd take Artest in his worse day over Odom. This fool needs to wake up and to prove he's actually an All Star material. P.S. If the Bryant-Jordan comparision is wrong, you can't immagine how wrong is to compare Odom to Pippen. It's an insult to Scottie.
Of course. Pippen and Artest are much better than Odom. But Lakers just don't have a lot of good players, so Odom is a rather big deal for them.
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kobe is tight but lebron will be better.
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^especially when he still aint gon be near as successful as Jordan
And you know this how? You're such a blatant hater.
opinions against kobe=hater...wow....thats some serious dickridin there NIK...
and since when does Kobe hate being compared to Mike? LOL!!! Let me walk....talk....shit, even chew gum like Mike....but i hate being compared to him lol
How does he know how succesful Kobe will be in the future? Unless he's Mr. Cleo, shut the fuck up and cheer for the San Diego Clippers. Buncha' fuckin haters...
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Fuck Odom, this dude is wack. He's too fucking soft, damn! He's unselfish, he always passes the ball, he takes no responsability and it looks like he plays with no passion at all. Shit even the guy in my avatar overplayed him last season. I'd take Artest in his worse day over Odom. This fool needs to wake up and to prove he's actually an All Star material. P.S. If the Bryant-Jordan comparision is wrong, you can't immagine how wrong is to compare Odom to Pippen. It's an insult to Scottie.
WTF? LMAO...This is the dumbest thing you've ever said. Odom came in the league with the potential to be twice the player Pippen was. His potential and skill level for his frame are not great, they're AMAZING. Odom hasn't lived up to his potential, but to call him whack? This guy has been a 15-10 guy his whole career, he's played great games, and now under Phil, he will actually find himself. Jackson envisions him as a point-forward, like Magic, like Pippen. He came in the league as "the next Magic." He handles the ball amazingly well for a guy his size and now he will be playing that roll and bringing the ball up a lot like he was meant to. The Lakers have plans for Odom...Please don't make any posts like that again.
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Fuck Odom, this dude is wack. He's too fucking soft, damn! He's unselfish, he always passes the ball, he takes no responsability and it looks like he plays with no passion at all. Shit even the guy in my avatar overplayed him last season. I'd take Artest in his worse day over Odom. This fool needs to wake up and to prove he's actually an All Star material. P.S. If the Bryant-Jordan comparision is wrong, you can't immagine how wrong is to compare Odom to Pippen. It's an insult to Scottie.
WTF? LMAO...This is the dumbest thing you've ever said. Odom came in the league with the potential to be twice the player Pippen was. His potential and skill level for his frame are not great, they're AMAZING. Odom hasn't lived up to his potential, but to call him whack? This guy has been a 15-10 guy his whole career, he's played great games, and now under Phil, he will actually find himself. Jackson envisions him as a point-forward, like Magic, like Pippen. He came in the league as "the next Magic." He handles the ball amazingly well for a guy his size and now he will be playing that roll and bringing the ball up a lot like he was meant to. The Lakers have plans for Odom...Please don't make any posts like that again.
Man he has potential to equal Scottie Pippen, i do agree. But he's mentally soft. He needs to be more selfish, more aggressive. That's what i'm saying. Players with his potential should be MVP type players!! He didnt even make the All Star game, man!! That's like when Jordan was playing baseball: wasted talent! If he makes a great season in this new role then he can really be considered a great superstar. Till then, he's, like Kwame Brown, a big big big big delusion. It's up to him. He can be the next Pippen or a mediocre player who will never make the All Star game and who will never be a good supporting cast for Kobe.
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Fuck Odom, this dude is wack. He's too fucking soft, damn! He's unselfish, he always passes the ball, he takes no responsability and it looks like he plays with no passion at all. Shit even the guy in my avatar overplayed him last season. I'd take Artest in his worse day over Odom. This fool needs to wake up and to prove he's actually an All Star material. P.S. If the Bryant-Jordan comparision is wrong, you can't immagine how wrong is to compare Odom to Pippen. It's an insult to Scottie.
WTF? LMAO...This is the dumbest thing you've ever said. Odom came in the league with the potential to be twice the player Pippen was. His potential and skill level for his frame are not great, they're AMAZING. Odom hasn't lived up to his potential, but to call him whack? This guy has been a 15-10 guy his whole career, he's played great games, and now under Phil, he will actually find himself. Jackson envisions him as a point-forward, like Magic, like Pippen. He came in the league as "the next Magic." He handles the ball amazingly well for a guy his size and now he will be playing that roll and bringing the ball up a lot like he was meant to. The Lakers have plans for Odom...Please don't make any posts like that again.
Man he has potential to equal Scottie Pippen, i do agree. But he's mentally soft. He needs to be more selfish, more aggressive. That's what i'm saying. Players with his potential should be MVP type players!! He didnt even make the All Star game, man!! That's like when Jordan was playing baseball: wasted talent! If he makes a great season in this new role then he can really be considered a great superstar. Till then, he's, like Kwame Brown, a big big big big delusion. It's up to him. He can be the next Pippen or a mediocre player who will never make the All Star game and who will never be a good supporting cast for Kobe.
Right now, he has a lot more to his name than Kwame. He's currently considered a really good player. Kwame was just straight out a bust. But Odom has proven that he has skill and game. Now he just needs to prove his ability to excell and become something more. He will be playing more aggressive under Phil Jackson, but he doesn't need to be more selfish, because now that he's gunna play point-forward, he will need to do a lot of passing and playmaking. Phil Jackson said he likes the way things are looking, Odom has shown amazing features in training camp. Chauncey Billups didn't make all-star and he won the finals MVP, it's not all about that. Odom will become what he needs to for this team...PeACe
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I hope so. I just don't want to see his talent wasted like in the past season.
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I hope so. I just don't want to see his talent wasted like in the past season.
Past season he went through the same thing as Kobe...He was dropped into an expansion team and basically went the whole season uncoached with not-so-special players playing big roles for the team mixed in with the injury factor...He did the best he could, he brought down some boards, defended decently, and played some pretty good offense (15 a night)...Of course he's capable of more, but under better circumstances...PeACe
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Past season Lakers have had so many problems it's not even funny to list them all, i know. No coach, no gamebook, no organization, no control. But even in that situation (wasnt Odom a Clipper before? ;D), he didnt go out playing selfish, making some shots, taking some responsability, leading the team during Kobe's injury. I still remember Rudy T. and Hamblen saying that Odom had to be more selfish. I still remember Odom passing the ball to Kobe everytime, expecially in the 4th quarter. I still remember Lakers-Heat, with Kobe tired as fuck making all the shots in the OT, with the coach shaking his head and with Odom not taking any responsability. He was been mentally wack, soft. Just remember Chucky used to make 20 shots per game, lol, 10 of them in forced situations. Odom 0 forced shots, 0 one on one, 0 "gimme the ball motherfucker i'mma win this game alone, if necessary". I hope the triangle will make him more involved and more responsable. Playing point forward should help him both tecnically and mentally.
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Past season Lakers have had so many problems it's not even funny to list them all, i know. No coach, no gamebook, no organization, no control. But even in that situation (wasnt Odom a Clipper before? ;D), he didnt go out playing selfish, making some shots, taking some responsability, leading the team during Kobe's injury. I still remember Rudy T. and Hamblen saying that Odom had to be more selfish. I still remember Odom passing the ball to Kobe everytime, expecially in the 4th quarter. I still remember Lakers-Heat, with Kobe tired as fuck making all the shots in the OT, with the coach shaking his head and with Odom not taking any responsability. He was been mentally wack, soft. Just remember Chucky used to make 20 shots per game, lol, 10 of them in forced situations. Odom 0 forced shots, 0 one on one, 0 "gimme the ball motherfucker i'mma win this game alone, if necessary". I hope the triangle will make him more involved and more responsable. Playing point forward should help him both tecnically and mentally.
Odom is just not naturally aggressive...That's why he's a point forward and not a power forward. He's a passer, he came in the league a passer, and the last two years really stunted his development. Shit, his whole career has stunted his development. He went from being the leader of an organization with no orginazation, to playing a position where he'd get dominated as soon as he left that organization. If applied correct, Odom will be great.
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Odom took over the game last night in the last 2 minutes. Phil has great ways of making people leaders and Odom has shown us quite a few of his capabilities.
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Odom took over the game last night in the last 2 minutes. Phil has great ways of making people leaders and Odom has shown us quite a few of his capabilities.
I wanna see more of it, man. More, and more, and more. ;)
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Lamar Odom Dominated guys that will not even make the team...
i thought Lamar plaid bad the first 3 quarters,he plays no fucking "D"!! he's afraid to pressure players b/c then he'll get burned 1 0n 1..
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I've seen the game. Are you fucking kidding me? Odom sucked again.
And Brown remains a bust.
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I've seen the game. Are you fucking kidding me? Odom sucked again.
And Brown remains a bust.
LOL.. I havent seen the game, but that shit is entertaining :D Nik gon be pissed.
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LMFAO...Damn, how stupid are you really getting? It was a pre-season game. Did you not see the last 3 minutes? Odom took over the game and shut down the Warriors single handedly. LMAO@Saying Kwame remains a bust after watching him in his first pre-season game...
Lamar Odom: 5-9 FG's (5-6 inside the 3-point line), 6-7 FT's, 5 Rebounds, 2 Assists, 2 Steals, and 16 Points in 27 minutes...THAT REALLY SUCKS FOR A PRE-SEASON GAME!!! Brian Cook seems to have improved, Tony Bobbit was surprisingly decent, Luke Walton is ready to become a major role player (after he's back from his injury), Aaron Mckie still has a great defensive step, Smush Parker is finally showing his talent in the NBA...Phil Jackson was never known for winning pre-season games, but this Laker team still did it...You're stooping to the haters level...PeACe
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Man i've seen the game. Dont try to make everything looks better than it is. Odom played a pretty decent game, but that's it. Nothing impressive at all, imo. He still aint taking responsabilities. He's too innoque on the offensive end and he didnt even play good defence like he usually do (have you seen the first quarter? Pretty embarassing!). That's for the first 3 quarters. Then in the 4th quarter, when every stars got benched, Phil had to replace injured Walton with him, and he took the reserve team over his shoulder for 3 mins against
Zarko Cabarkapa, Calbert Cheaney, Monta Ellis, Aaron Miles and Mamadou N'diaye. Do you find it exciting?
About Kwame Brown, i'm not judging him by a game. Man he's a bust from 4 years and running.. and you know it. I wrote he REMAINS a bust for a reason.
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Brian Cook seems to have improved, Tony Bobbit was surprisingly decent, Luke Walton is ready to become a major role player (after he's back from his injury), Aaron Mckie still has a great defensive step, Smush Parker is finally showing his talent in the NBA...Phil Jackson was never known for winning pre-season games, but this Laker team still did it...You're stooping to the haters level...PeACe
Honestly i couldnt care less about those stats etc..
What is important at this point of the season is to learn trap defence, press defence, and the triangle.
Lakers showed they are still FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR AWAY from being perfect playing all of them.
Our first quarter defence sucked (we were down by almost 20 points, lol).
And our halfcourt triangle was too slow, mechanic. In other words we sucked.
Then we changed the starters, and we played "wild" basket, more one on one, more dynamic.
But i dont care about those things, we should learn trap and triangle.
That's what i wanna see during the preseason.
There's no need to have the best coach in the world to play fastbreaks and one on one's.
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kWAME bROWN DOESN'T HAVE Any POST MOVES! he just needs to get his points of put backs.fast break points and assist from kobe and odom
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kWAME bROWN DOESN'T HAVE Any POST MOVES! he just needs to get his points of put backs.fast break points and assist from kobe and odom
Wow finally somebody who've seen the same game as me. Brown played soft, and he has no post-moves at all. Only points he made (lol Cook and Mihm outscored him) were great assists by Kobe and Odom, mostly dunks. He has no chances against Duncan, Amare, Garnett, Shaq. Shit even that unknown dude named Parada (lmao he has Pareda written in his jersey) outplayed Brown in the few minutes he played! ::)
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Patience yall. We've only played one preseason game. It's a little early to panic, isn't it, saying LO and Kwame are going to suck.
Let's at least wait until the season starts. It's a little too early to freak out.
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at clublakers.com there was 32 pages about the first pre-seson game :yikes: :o :o
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It's a little early to panic, isn't it, saying LO and Kwame are going to suck.
I didnt say they're going to suck. I said they did. ;)
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Lakers lose 81-112 tonight.
Just another terrible game.
Another proof this team actually sucks.
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^especially when he still aint gon be near as successful as Jordan
And you know this how? You're such a blatant hater.
opinions against kobe=hater...wow....thats some serious dickridin there NIK...
and since when does Kobe hate being compared to Mike? LOL!!! Let me walk....talk....shit, even chew gum like Mike....but i hate being compared to him lol
How does he know how succesful Kobe will be in the future? Unless he's Mr. Cleo, shut the fuck up and cheer for the San Diego Clippers. Buncha' fuckin haters...
how come that argument is only good when you arguin FOR Kobe? You have no problem saying he will go down as one of the greatest players of all time. And YOU have compared him to Jordan. So how do YOU know how successfull he will be? hypocracy.....gotta luv it huh NIK? lol
San Diego Clippers? lol. You mean...the now Los Angeles Clippers?? The best team in LA right now? Maybe you should cheer for them too man. ;)
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Seriously why are yall so suprised that lakers suck? Look at their god damn roster, for chrissakes. But it's not all that bad, Lakers were pretty good during the last decade, it's ok to be average for a while again. You can't contend for championships all the time, and anyone who thought this team has the slightest bit of a chance to win a championship is either seeing it through the purple glasses of a fan or just a moron lol.. but why yall trip so much, is what I don't get. Of course this team isnt making noise in a while, but that's ok. Everything that goes up falls down eventually, look at the bulls. But lakers will shine again, eventually, maybe in 5 years, maybe in 15 years, who knows. What is known though: This team won't be feared by anyone next season. But that's ok. Don't be so fuckin spoiled cause Shaq got you a couple of championships.
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Don't be so fuckin spoiled cause Shaq got you a couple of championships.
you must love shaqs dick in your ass huh? fucking faggot...
if you know anything about Laker B-Ball history you would know shaq didn't get us shit (you're just some stupid 19 year old from europe,what do you know?)..it took kobe for that fool to finally win a championship..like i said before
1997-lost 4-1 to the jazz,kobe was still young,and wasn't that good
1998-lost 4-0 to the jazz,same thing about kobe
1999-kobe became starter,we got to the WCF
1999-2000-kobe got better like he did every year,and phil came in=championships for shaq
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Im not saying that Shaq won it alone.. but he was the major factor. Kobe was important, yes. It couldnt have been done without him. However, Kobe could have been replaced with a great guard, while Shaq couldnt have been replaced with a another center.
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^especially when he still aint gon be near as successful as Jordan
And you know this how? You're such a blatant hater.
opinions against kobe=hater...wow....thats some serious dickridin there NIK...
and since when does Kobe hate being compared to Mike? LOL!!! Let me walk....talk....shit, even chew gum like Mike....but i hate being compared to him lol
How does he know how succesful Kobe will be in the future? Unless he's Mr. Cleo, shut the fuck up and cheer for the San Diego Clippers. Buncha' fuckin haters...
how come that argument is only good when you arguin FOR Kobe? You have no problem saying he will go down as one of the greatest players of all time. And YOU have compared him to Jordan. So how do YOU know how successfull he will be? hypocracy.....gotta luv it huh NIK? lol
you dumb fuck,kobe became a hall of famer at the age of 24,you fucking moron,kobe's already successful,
kobe 3 championships>>>spurs 3 championships
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Im not saying that Shaq won it alone.. but he was the major factor. Kobe was important, yes. It couldnt have been done without him. However, Kobe could have been replaced with a great guard, while Shaq couldnt have been replaced with a another center.
again,do you enjoy shaqs dick in your ass? you put KG,T.duncan,kareem,bill russel,with kobe,Lakers win 3 straight championships,what's your fucking point? you and that other faggot are the real dick riders,both of you faggots like shaqs dick in your ass
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Im not saying that Shaq won it alone.. but he was the major factor. Kobe was important, yes. It couldnt have been done without him. However, Kobe could have been replaced with a great guard, while Shaq couldnt have been replaced with a another center.
again,do you enjoy shaqs dick in your ass? you put KG,T.duncan,kareem,bill russel,with kobe,Lakers win 3 straight championships,what's your fucking point? you and that other faggot are the real dick riders,both of you faggots like shaqs dick in your ass
lol. Im not saying any center in the history of the NBA. Noone would have trade Shaq for KG or Duncan back then, you better be talking smack. Laker fans give Shaq way too few credit.
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Im not saying that Shaq won it alone.. but he was the major factor. Kobe was important, yes. It couldnt have been done without him. However, Kobe could have been replaced with a great guard, while Shaq couldnt have been replaced with a another center.
again,do you enjoy shaqs dick in your ass? you put KG,T.duncan,kareem,bill russel,with kobe,Lakers win 3 straight championships,what's your fucking point? you and that other faggot are the real dick riders,both of you faggots like shaqs dick in your ass
lol. Im not saying any center in the history of the NBA. Noone would have trade Shaq for KG or Duncan back then, you better be talking smack. Laker fans give Shaq way too few credit.
no we don't,you fucking shaq dick ryders/kobe haters give shaq to much credit,...take it from a Laker fan,shaq didn't bring us shit,i know what i saw..you're just some naive 19 year old from Europe..
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Im not saying that Shaq won it alone.. but he was the major factor. Kobe was important, yes. It couldnt have been done without him. However, Kobe could have been replaced with a great guard, while Shaq couldnt have been replaced with a another center.
again,do you enjoy shaqs dick in your ass? you put KG,T.duncan,kareem,bill russel,with kobe,Lakers win 3 straight championships,what's your fucking point? you and that other faggot are the real dick riders,both of you faggots like shaqs dick in your ass
lol. Im not saying any center in the history of the NBA. Noone would have trade Shaq for KG or Duncan back then, you better be talking smack. Laker fans give Shaq way too few credit.
no we don't,you fucking shaq dick ryders/kobe haters give shaq to much credit,...take it from a Laker fan,shaq didn't bring us shit,i know what i saw..you're just some naive 19 year old from Europe..
LOL@take it from a Laker Fan.. yea, you guys are the most objective ones when it comes to Shaq. You're just some 15 year old Kobefan from America..
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And some thing else i noticed when Laker fans start telling the truth about shaq,the shaq dick ryders defence is " he brought 3 championships to L.A"
First of all,we're not arguing who was responsible for those championships,any real sports fan would know it takes a team effort..
and second of all,we have a problem with shaq b/c he dogged it the Last couple of years he was in L.A,he got away with it earlier b/c we were winning championships but he crossed the line the summer after we won that 3rd championship by saying "i'm going to have my toe surjurie during company time and get in shape" ..
what the fuck was that about?,he disrespected the franchise and the city by doing that shit.. Dr Buss had just gave him an extension on his contract and this is how shaq re-pays him?
And shaq just ruined the chance of us winning a 4rth straight championships b/c he was hurt and FAT the whole year,meanwhile kobe is working his ass off to get better,and he did,he avg 30 ppg that year and almost won the scoring tittle and MVP but shaq cocked blocked by complaining about his lesser role and the offence when back going through shaq and the Lakers lost a bunch of games b/c shaq wasn't the same player that we were used tom seen,that's when Laker fans staarted complaining about shaq on sports radio and giving kobe props for been a hard worker and getting better every year and not dogging it like shaq..and BTW the Lakers only won 50 games that season thanxz to shaq cock bloking on kobe..
and then when the season ended,kobe desides to option out and the next thing you know shaq is screaming @ dr.buss during a pre-season game "are you going to gime me my money now!!!!!!!!!"...knowing kobe was going to option out,why would you put a team in a situation to break up the team? to ether give you all the money or the other player all the money?..take a pay-cut!!!
and then he gets traded and starts acting like a bitch all year long and still is..and he's trying to spin it like he's the innocent one,fuck that fat bitch..
there's a reason why Laker fans have kobes back,i just explained to you why but of course you shaq dick ryders will call the guys who have kobes back dick ryders when in reality,you guys are the real dick ryders when it comes to this whole shaq & kobe thing
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Im not saying that Shaq won it alone.. but he was the major factor. Kobe was important, yes. It couldnt have been done without him. However, Kobe could have been replaced with a great guard, while Shaq couldnt have been replaced with a another center.
again,do you enjoy shaqs dick in your ass? you put KG,T.duncan,kareem,bill russel,with kobe,Lakers win 3 straight championships,what's your fucking point? you and that other faggot are the real dick riders,both of you faggots like shaqs dick in your ass
lol. Im not saying any center in the history of the NBA. Noone would have trade Shaq for KG or Duncan back then, you better be talking smack. Laker fans give Shaq way too few credit.
no we don't,you fucking shaq dick ryders/kobe haters give shaq to much credit,...take it from a Laker fan,shaq didn't bring us shit,i know what i saw..you're just some naive 19 year old from Europe..
LOL@take it from a Laker Fan.. yea, you guys are the most objective ones when it comes to Shaq. You're just some 15 year old Kobefan from America..
yes,i'm 15 years old ::) moron....and that comment just proves you're a shaq dick ryder...and yes,take it from aLaker fan when it comes to this whole shaq and kobe thing and the championships,i just broke it down why it's "fuck shaq" in L.A
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Seriously why are yall so suprised that lakers suck? Look at their god damn roster, for chrissakes. But it's not all that bad, Lakers were pretty good during the last decade, it's ok to be average for a while again. You can't contend for championships all the time, and anyone who thought this team has the slightest bit of a chance to win a championship is either seeing it through the purple glasses of a fan or just a moron lol.. but why yall trip so much, is what I don't get. Of course this team isnt making noise in a while, but that's ok. Everything that goes up falls down eventually, look at the bulls. But lakers will shine again, eventually, maybe in 5 years, maybe in 15 years, who knows. What is known though: This team won't be feared by anyone next season. But that's ok. Don't be so fuckin spoiled cause Shaq got you a couple of championships.
Damn you ruined everything with the last words.. ;D
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Im not saying that Shaq won it alone.. but he was the major factor. Kobe was important, yes. It couldnt have been done without him. However, Kobe could have been replaced with a great guard, while Shaq couldnt have been replaced with a another center.
Man you guys forget about the supporting cast too! Phil was been fundamental, and players like Horry, Fisher, Harper, Fox, Shaw, etc.. saved our asses badly at least as many times as Shaq did. I love them all for what they've done. But Shaq, even if it was the MVP, wasnt enought without Kobe AND the supporting cast. It was a WONDERFUL TEAM, front to back.
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harry potter was better than shaq.
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harry potter was better than shaq.
;D :D
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LMAO...YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF MORONS...AHAHAHAHAH. Fake ass fans judging the Lakers by watching 2 pre-season games. Guess what muthafuckaz, Phil Jackson has NEVER been known to win pre-season games, shit, almost none of his championship teams went above .500 in pre-season play...This is just time to see who they want to sign and who they want to cut, none of the gauranteed players want to get injured busting their asses in pre-season games, you morons...LOLOLOL
It's Not Jackson's Favorite Season
By Mike Bresnahan
Times Staff Writer
October 12, 2005
HONOLULU — Phil Jackson, back in the fold with the Lakers, coached his first exhibition Tuesday. An occasion to remember?
Not in Jackson's "mind's eye," to steal a phrase he is fond of using.
Jackson wasn't exactly counting Tuesday as his official return, a sentiment more likely reserved for the season opener Nov. 2 against the Denver Nuggets.
Jackson's nine championships are tied with Red Auerbach for most by a coach, and his 175 playoff victories are the highest in league history, but exhibitions fall low on his ladder of importance.
"I probably have the worst record ever of any coach in preseason games," Jackson said. "I don't look at these games as items that are absolutely necessary to win. I do like to see competitive play."
See what I'm saying? You guys don't know shit, the triangle will previal...
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Man i admire how much faith you keep in this team, but i'm highly disappointed by this roster. I'll continue to support the Lakers, like usual, but i think we're still FAR from being contender. That's it. Having Smush Parker and Kwame Brown in your starting 5 and Brian Cook as your 6th man is not something to be happy about.
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Man i admire how much faith you keep in this team, but i'm highly disappointed by this roster. I'll continue to support the Lakers, like usual, but i think we're still FAR from being contender. That's it. Having Smush Parker and Kwame Brown in your starting 5 and Brian Cook as your 6th man is not something to be happy about.
i like smush. not as a starter but as a good defensive player off the bench. he played baron davis well in preseason. kwame brown is horrible though.
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Smush improved a lot, i gotta admit it. He's quick, he can defend pretty well, and he showed a pretty solid jumper. Big surprise.
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Man i admire how much faith you keep in this team, but i'm highly disappointed by this roster. I'll continue to support the Lakers, like usual, but i think we're still FAR from being contender. That's it. Having Smush Parker and Kwame Brown in your starting 5 and Brian Cook as your 6th man is not something to be happy about.
You're gunna eat your words, just like many fake Laker fans who have turned their back on the Lakers have in the past...Are you stupid? It's pre-season. PRE - S E A S O N. Let me tell you, Smush Parker is better and a lot more athletic than most of the starting point guards in the NBA, he has a whole lot under his belt, he just hasn't made a name for himself in the NBA yet. Our 6th man IS NOT Brian Cook, again you stoop to hater levels. Brian Cook is more like our 10th man. Devean George and Aaron McKie are more like 6th man candidates. Shit, I'd place Corie Blount over Brian Cook.