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Title: Christian quits WWE
Post by: -Euthanasia- on October 31, 2005, 10:00:37 AM
what the fuss?
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on October 31, 2005, 10:04:44 AM
what? where'd u hear/read this?
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on October 31, 2005, 10:18:48 AM
nvm found te article:

http://nodq.com/news/132780887.shtml


Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Perfection on October 31, 2005, 10:34:14 AM
Source: Wrestling Observer

Jay Reso's final match in WWE was last night at the TV tapings in Los Angeles. While the WWE web site reported him quitting, which was accurate, what happened was a week ago in San Francisco, he was given a new contract, as his old one expired, and told to sign on the spot. He didn't sign. He did come back to work and do another job last night when he quit.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: -Euthanasia- on October 31, 2005, 10:43:06 AM
what? where'd u hear/read this?

its on the main page of wwe.com too
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: P Nelson on October 31, 2005, 02:48:16 PM
Good move by Christian, he should wrestle or or 2 matches at TNA just to show Vince how popular he really is and maybe he'll let Christian shine like he deserves instead of pushing the likes of the Boring ass Rob Con-Way...
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Trauma-san on October 31, 2005, 04:00:56 PM
I used to love Christian's entrance before they changed it up.


"CHRRRRIIISSSSTTTTAAAAHHHHNNNNNNNN" and all the sparks fly down. 
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on October 31, 2005, 04:12:57 PM
WWE owns the name "Christian", so if he wants to keep wrestling he's going to have to find a new name.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on October 31, 2005, 05:02:17 PM
Captain Charisma!

he should go to tna jus like all my other fav wrestlers... imma start watchin that as soon as i start watchin wwe to see how shit it is!
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Trauma-san on October 31, 2005, 05:29:13 PM
I don't know if they could enforce that "Christian" trademark, though.  I would think he could change it slightly and get a new logo, and be fine. 
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: PLANT on October 31, 2005, 05:43:03 PM
I don't know if they could enforce that "Christian" trademark, though.  I would think he could change it slightly and get a new logo, and be fine. 
ya like "Chris Tian"
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Sweet & Tender Hooligan on October 31, 2005, 06:35:34 PM
how are they writing him out??....what happend at that pay per view thing that was on last tuesday??.....like all the results if ne1 got time...
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Trauma-san on October 31, 2005, 09:53:44 PM
It's THIS tuesday, i.e. tommorow.

Apparently Christian took the gentleman's way out, and agreed (or volunteered) to showup on Raw tonight (he rushed the ring when the smackdown/raw stars fought) and to also show up and work the "Taboo Tuesday" PPV so that the script writers would have a chance to write him out of the storylines however they saw fit.

UNLIKE Steve Austin, who apparently was so pissed at his storylines that he dropped out of the PPV altogether.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Perfection on October 31, 2005, 10:08:37 PM
Captain Charisma!

he should go to tna jus like all my other fav wrestlers... imma start watchin that as soon as i start watchin wwe to see how shit it is!

Captain Charisma is own by some guy in Washington which is why WWE stopped refering to Christian as Captain Charisma a few months a go
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Sweet & Tender Hooligan on November 01, 2005, 12:37:03 AM
It's THIS tuesday, i.e. tommorow.

Apparently Christian took the gentleman's way out, and agreed (or volunteered) to showup on Raw tonight (he rushed the ring when the smackdown/raw stars fought) and to also show up and work the "Taboo Tuesday" PPV so that the script writers would have a chance to write him out of the storylines however they saw fit.

UNLIKE Steve Austin, who apparently was so pissed at his storylines that he dropped out of the PPV altogether.

really? So austin aint fightin the coach??.....
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 01, 2005, 01:27:31 AM
WWE fucked up bad. Christian was a good talent.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on November 01, 2005, 02:33:39 AM
It's THIS tuesday, i.e. tommorow.

Apparently Christian took the gentleman's way out, and agreed (or volunteered) to showup on Raw tonight (he rushed the ring when the smackdown/raw stars fought) and to also show up and work the "Taboo Tuesday" PPV so that the script writers would have a chance to write him out of the storylines however they saw fit.

UNLIKE Steve Austin, who apparently was so pissed at his storylines that he dropped out of the PPV altogether.

really? So austin aint fightin the coach??.....

nope
the storyline was for Austin to job to Coach and let Coach get a clean victory...Austin didnt like this so he walked out on WWE again
itz gonna be Batista vs Coach now with Goldust and Vader in Coach's corner...also rumoured to appear in sum form is Mark Henry
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 01, 2005, 09:58:18 AM
It's THIS tuesday, i.e. tommorow.

Apparently Christian took the gentleman's way out, and agreed (or volunteered) to showup on Raw tonight (he rushed the ring when the smackdown/raw stars fought) and to also show up and work the "Taboo Tuesday" PPV so that the script writers would have a chance to write him out of the storylines however they saw fit.

UNLIKE Steve Austin, who apparently was so pissed at his storylines that he dropped out of the PPV altogether.


Austin was justified. If you were the guy responsible for making WWE the most money they ever made and you were asked for your comeback match after 3 years to be a loss to an announcer would you go through with it?


And Christian can fight the name and win, but it would cost a lot in legal fees. He can still buy the rights to Captain Charisma and use that.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: westkoastanostra on November 01, 2005, 01:27:56 PM
^^^ yea i agree...it would be buillshit if stone cold would job to coach....i think its fucked up how wwe is getting rights to all the names of former wwe superstars and forcing them to have another name ie "team 3d" (dudleyz) ....
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: westkoastanostra on November 01, 2005, 01:29:55 PM
Good move by Christian, he should wrestle or or 2 matches at TNA just to show Vince how popular he really is and maybe he'll let Christian shine like he deserves instead of pushing the likes of the Boring ass Rob Con-Way...

yea i hate rob conway....there's nothing special about him...other than he's annoying...same with hat fuckin masterpiece...
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 01, 2005, 02:53:27 PM
^^^ yea i agree...it would be buillshit if stone cold would job to coach....i think its fucked up how wwe is getting rights to all the names of former wwe superstars and forcing them to have another name ie "team 3d" (dudleyz) ....

The wrestlers could fight it if they were to band together let's say the night before Wrestlemania and refuse to wrestle unless Vince signed over all the gimmick and character rights to the wrestlers. Of course this wouldn't happen because no one would have the balls to be one of the first to start it in fear of being buried.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: $do11a biLL$ on November 01, 2005, 03:14:37 PM
ITS VADER TIME!!!  8)
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: -Euthanasia- on November 01, 2005, 03:37:50 PM
^^what a fat man

u see him get pissed when he fell on his ass
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on November 01, 2005, 06:32:10 PM
more on austin...
he dint like this whole JR storyline thing but dint wanna complain cause he wasnt wrestling nemore and dint hav the same leverage on backstage politics as before

eventually when he realized that WWE wont be bringing JR, he blew up and walk; and havin to job to Coach dint help the matter out either
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: -Euthanasia- on November 01, 2005, 10:50:03 PM
but JR still works there right, just not on-air
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 01, 2005, 11:01:01 PM
^^what a fat man

u see him get pissed when he fell on his ass

That was hysterical. He fell on his as and just started yelling.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Trauma-san on November 02, 2005, 07:16:09 AM
It's THIS tuesday, i.e. tommorow.

Apparently Christian took the gentleman's way out, and agreed (or volunteered) to showup on Raw tonight (he rushed the ring when the smackdown/raw stars fought) and to also show up and work the "Taboo Tuesday" PPV so that the script writers would have a chance to write him out of the storylines however they saw fit.

UNLIKE Steve Austin, who apparently was so pissed at his storylines that he dropped out of the PPV altogether.


Austin was justified. If you were the guy responsible for making WWE the most money they ever made and you were asked for your comeback match after 3 years to be a loss to an announcer would you go through with it?


And Christian can fight the name and win, but it would cost a lot in legal fees. He can still buy the rights to Captain Charisma and use that.

Yeah, I would have jobbed to Coach after I worked out what the further plan would be down the road, he didn't job to coach because he wants his buddy back on television, when the man who writes the checks says it isn't happening.  If he didn't want to job, he shouldn't have came back.  Take a cue from Hogan.  He doesn't want to job.  So he doesn't wrestle until it's understood that he doesn't have to job.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Trauma-san on November 02, 2005, 07:17:12 AM
^^^ yea i agree...it would be buillshit if stone cold would job to coach....i think its fucked up how wwe is getting rights to all the names of former wwe superstars and forcing them to have another name ie "team 3d" (dudleyz) ....

The wrestlers could fight it if they were to band together let's say the night before Wrestlemania and refuse to wrestle unless Vince signed over all the gimmick and character rights to the wrestlers. Of course this wouldn't happen because no one would have the balls to be one of the first to start it in fear of being buried.

I'd fire everyfucking one of them, and call in people, then deal with the repurcussions later by flat out telling everybody on live television what their favorite superstars did. 
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 02, 2005, 08:55:26 AM
They didn't tell Austin he was going to job when he came in. Hogan has walked out of the company for similar events.


Who would you replace the entire roster with? There isn't that many wrestlers anymore. Vince would cave. The fans won't have sympathy for him. We're dealing with one evil son of a bitch here.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Trauma-san on November 02, 2005, 03:24:05 PM
I'd have sypmpathy, and he's not evil at all, you're just a fucking punk who doesn't like anybody in authority.  He's fed these wrestlers for fucking DECADES and without him, they'd all be jobless or working for dumbasses like Jerry Jerrett.  They oughta kiss Vince's ass everytime they get the chance, without him, they'd all be earning 20 grand a year touring regional veterans halls and shit. 
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Trauma-san on November 02, 2005, 03:26:42 PM
Oh, and your comment about Hogan walking out for similar events... he never walked out the night before a ppv, that's bullshit and you know it.  Your small mind also missed my entire fucking point about "they didn't tell Austin he was gonna job..." etc.  When Hogan comes in, and doesn't want to job, he says "Vince, right now, a month before the PPV, I'm telling you I'm not gonna job.  If you want me to win the PPV, that's fine, lets do it.  If you want me to job, I'm not going to show up" and everything's understood while they still have a chance to change things.  Hulk Hogan has never held Vince up for money, and has never held Vince up for shit like Austin pulled Monday. Austin had a problem with jobbing, but didn't tell anybody about it until the fucking NIGHT BEFORE THE PPV.  Think about that shit.  what a bitch. 
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 02, 2005, 04:56:06 PM
Hey Trauma, go read up about Wrestlemania 9 and why exactly Hogan won the belt that night.


As for Vince, give me a break, he has done things just as bad as it would be for the wrestlers to screw him. Remember Bret Hart? Just the other week he used a real life operation JR was going to have as an angle to make him look funny. He fired Dawn Marie while she was pregnant. All those wrestlers you speak of that owe him their livelyhood; look at most of the 80s wrestlers now. The ones that are still alive are drug using slobs living in the poor house. Why? Because they spent their youth breaking their backs for Vince McMahon to make money and build his empire. George Scott who was the head booker during the Wrestlemania 1 and 2 era said that the WWF would pull in 2 million dollars a weekend. The wrestlers would get $1,500 to $2,000 a week and all their expenses were not covered. The wrestlers had to pay for their food, shelter, and transportation. They took steroids because Vince only pushed the bigger guys and took pain killers to be able to keep working because if they took time off Vince wouldn't always keep their push going when they came back and he wouldn't pay them when they were gone. Guys like Jim Duggan, Rick Rude, Jake Roberts, Tito Santana, Ray Traylor, Curt Hennig etc don't owe McMahon a God Damn thing. If used them for his personal gain and then kicked them to the curb when he didn't need them anymore. You think these guys have/had pensions?

WCW was the best thing that ever happened to the Wrestlers and wrestlers like Hogan, Nash, Luger, and Savage ruined that. Ted Turner leaving for better things didn't help either.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 02, 2005, 06:54:11 PM
If Dawn Marie got pregnant, why should they keep her on the payroll?
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 02, 2005, 07:39:21 PM
If Dawn Marie got pregnant, why should they keep her on the payroll?


Because the law requires you too. It's against the laaw to fire a women for being pregnant, and very hard to fire a pregnant women for anything. There was an actress that left her soap opera for Beverly Hills 90210. She got pregnant and Aaron Spelling fired her. She hadn't even filmed a single episode yet. She took Spelling to court and won 5 million dollars.

I'm not sure why Dawn isn't sueing. Maybe she's waiting for the baby to be born.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 02, 2005, 07:48:17 PM
No, it's because they gave her the opportunity to come back after she's had her baby. If they fire people because of injuries (i.e. Test) then a pregnant woman is nothing to them.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Trauma-san on November 02, 2005, 07:59:50 PM
If Dawn Marie got pregnant, why should they keep her on the payroll?


Because the law requires you too. It's against the laaw to fire a women for being pregnant, and very hard to fire a pregnant women for anything. There was an actress that left her soap opera for Beverly Hills 90210. She got pregnant and Aaron Spelling fired her. She hadn't even filmed a single episode yet. She took Spelling to court and won 5 million dollars.

I'm not sure why Dawn isn't sueing. Maybe she's waiting for the baby to be born.

Hey dumbass, go look up "Independent Contractor" when you get out of highschool and then come back and tell us what you found out. 
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 02, 2005, 08:09:05 PM
If Dawn Marie got pregnant, why should they keep her on the payroll?


Because the law requires you too. It's against the laaw to fire a women for being pregnant, and very hard to fire a pregnant women for anything. There was an actress that left her soap opera for Beverly Hills 90210. She got pregnant and Aaron Spelling fired her. She hadn't even filmed a single episode yet. She took Spelling to court and won 5 million dollars.

I'm not sure why Dawn isn't sueing. Maybe she's waiting for the baby to be born.

Hey dumbass, go look up "Independent Contractor" when you get out of highschool and then come back and tell us what you found out. 


And what are actors? Paid employees? Last I checked signing a contract to appear on a TV show is no differen than signing a contract to sppear on a wrestling show.

Even if it were legal. Not even you can deny it's a scumbag thing to do. All they had to do was wait a few months for her to have the baby then fire her. Getting fired while pregnant can really affect the woman and the baby. Which is why the givornment made the law in the first place.

I also love how you ignored my other post. Particularly the part referencing Hogan's unltimatum to Vince the night of WM9. "Let me win the title tonight or I'm no showing the event". At least Austin had the decency to tell them ahead of time.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Perfection on November 02, 2005, 11:16:10 PM
If Dawn Marie got pregnant, why should they keep her on the payroll?

Well Dawn Marie was assured by WWE management that she wouldn't lose her job because of her preganty & that her spot on the roster would be saved until she returned.

Turns out Dawn found out what a lot of people of found out, don't trust Vince
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 02, 2005, 11:50:35 PM
Well that's da bidness. I really don't feel bad for her and I can't blame Vince.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Trauma-san on November 03, 2005, 06:27:34 AM
If Dawn Marie got pregnant, why should they keep her on the payroll?


Because the law requires you too. It's against the laaw to fire a women for being pregnant, and very hard to fire a pregnant women for anything. There was an actress that left her soap opera for Beverly Hills 90210. She got pregnant and Aaron Spelling fired her. She hadn't even filmed a single episode yet. She took Spelling to court and won 5 million dollars.

I'm not sure why Dawn isn't sueing. Maybe she's waiting for the baby to be born.

Hey dumbass, go look up "Independent Contractor" when you get out of highschool and then come back and tell us what you found out. 


And what are actors? Paid employees? Last I checked signing a contract to appear on a TV show is no differen than signing a contract to sppear on a wrestling show.

Even if it were legal. Not even you can deny it's a scumbag thing to do. All they had to do was wait a few months for her to have the baby then fire her. Getting fired while pregnant can really affect the woman and the baby. Which is why the givornment made the law in the first place.

I also love how you ignored my other post. Particularly the part referencing Hogan's unltimatum to Vince the night of WM9. "Let me win the title tonight or I'm no showing the event". At least Austin had the decency to tell them ahead of time.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.  Hogan was in a tag match at Wrestlemania 9.  He wasn't even in the main event.  He pressured Vince to give him the title, which Vince DID, by letting him run in and beat Yokozuna after the main event that night.  At no point was Hogan no showing the event, that's just something little fan boys like you like to throw on Hogan because you hate that he's so fucking effortlessly good that he gets over even though he can't wrestle. 

The important thing to notice here (and again, people like you with childish minds miss this many, many times) is that the end result is important, way more important than the process that got them there.  In the END, Hogan SHOWED the event, and WRESTLED that night.  Austin NO SHOWED the event, and DIDN'T WRESTLE, like he AGREED TO DO.  Hogan DID.  Austin DIDN'T.   

Also, does it matter if it's ethical to fire Dawn?  It's LEGAL for her to be laid off when she's an Independent Contractor, this isn't the only place things like this happen, all Independent Contractors work that way.  I don't agree with it either... but it is LEGALLY VINCE'S CALL.  You don't even know why the fuck she was laid off, you're just speculating, having never met any of the people involved.  she might be the biggest bitch walking the face of the earth.  She might have blackmailed Vince, she might have been Vince's girlfriend and they got mad over some fucked up cookies she gave him or something, the point is we dont' know what the fuck happened.

What I DO KNOW happened, is that Austin No Showed a PPV, and he's also a fuckin Wife beater, and a Girlfriend Beater.  He's a piece of shit that's probably gonna burn in hell for some of the shit he's done to the women in his life. 
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 03, 2005, 07:33:22 AM
Well that's da bidness. I really don't feel bad for her and I can't blame Vince.



Trust me man. If she wants to lawyer up she can win.

Jesse Ventura once signed away his voice rights so WWF could use his commentary on tapes. He did so because he was told that all wrestlers did. When he found out that Hogan was getting percentages of the sales he got a lawyer and sued. Even though Ventura's signature was on a contract that said the WWE doesn't have to pay him for his voice, Ventura atill won a million dollars and WWE has to pay him every time they use his voice.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 03, 2005, 07:49:26 AM
If Dawn Marie got pregnant, why should they keep her on the payroll?


Because the law requires you too. It's against the laaw to fire a women for being pregnant, and very hard to fire a pregnant women for anything. There was an actress that left her soap opera for Beverly Hills 90210. She got pregnant and Aaron Spelling fired her. She hadn't even filmed a single episode yet. She took Spelling to court and won 5 million dollars.

I'm not sure why Dawn isn't sueing. Maybe she's waiting for the baby to be born.

Hey dumbass, go look up "Independent Contractor" when you get out of highschool and then come back and tell us what you found out. 


And what are actors? Paid employees? Last I checked signing a contract to appear on a TV show is no differen than signing a contract to sppear on a wrestling show.

Even if it were legal. Not even you can deny it's a scumbag thing to do. All they had to do was wait a few months for her to have the baby then fire her. Getting fired while pregnant can really affect the woman and the baby. Which is why the givornment made the law in the first place.

I also love how you ignored my other post. Particularly the part referencing Hogan's unltimatum to Vince the night of WM9. "Let me win the title tonight or I'm no showing the event". At least Austin had the decency to tell them ahead of time.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.  Hogan was in a tag match at Wrestlemania 9.  He wasn't even in the main event.  He pressured Vince to give him the title, which Vince DID, by letting him run in and beat Yokozuna after the main event that night.  At no point was Hogan no showing the event, that's just something little fan boys like you like to throw on Hogan because you hate that he's so fucking effortlessly good that he gets over even though he can't wrestle. 

The important thing to notice here (and again, people like you with childish minds miss this many, many times) is that the end result is important, way more important than the process that got them there.  In the END, Hogan SHOWED the event, and WRESTLED that night.  Austin NO SHOWED the event, and DIDN'T WRESTLE, like he AGREED TO DO.  Hogan DID.  Austin DIDN'T.   

Also, does it matter if it's ethical to fire Dawn?  It's LEGAL for her to be laid off when she's an Independent Contractor, this isn't the only place things like this happen, all Independent Contractors work that way.  I don't agree with it either... but it is LEGALLY VINCE'S CALL.  You don't even know why the fuck she was laid off, you're just speculating, having never met any of the people involved.  she might be the biggest bitch walking the face of the earth.  She might have blackmailed Vince, she might have been Vince's girlfriend and they got mad over some fucked up cookies she gave him or something, the point is we dont' know what the fuck happened.

What I DO KNOW happened, is that Austin No Showed a PPV, and he's also a fuckin Wife beater, and a Girlfriend Beater.  He's a piece of shit that's probably gonna burn in hell for some of the shit he's done to the women in his life. 


It wasn't a fanboy making up the Hulk Hogan WM9 thing. Hogan was being baby about not main eventing the show and basically black mailed Vince into giving him the belt, which Hogan agreed he would later drop to Bret Hart. Hogan that said it would make him look bad to lose to Bret Hart, and he didn't want to lose clean to Yoko either, so they made that bullshit finish. This isn't hatred towards Hogan it's fact. Sure Hogan showed and Austin didn't, but Hogan wouldn't have showed if the WWF didn't meet his demands. Austin was right in not showing. Not just for him, but for the WWE. Austin's first match back should be big money, not a dq loss to Coachman. Austin did the WWE a favour by walking out. The only difference between what Austin did and what Hogan did a few times, like Starrcade vs Sting, or Bash at the Beach when Russo screwed him was that Hogan got his way. If Austin got his way then he would have showed and if Hogan didn't he wouldn't have. Hogan's backstage politics are legendary. There is no point in denying it. It doesn't mean I hate the guy. It just means I accept fact.

And if it's so to fire Dawn Marie legal then explain Hunter Tylo and her case against Aaron Spelling.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Perfection on November 03, 2005, 10:31:28 AM
Well that's da bidness. I really don't feel bad for her and I can't blame Vince.



Trust me man. If she wants to lawyer up she can win.

Jesse Ventura once signed away his voice rights so WWF could use his commentary on tapes. He did so because he was told that all wrestlers did. When he found out that Hogan was getting percentages of the sales he got a lawyer and sued. Even though Ventura's signature was on a contract that said the WWE doesn't have to pay him for his voice, Ventura atill won a million dollars and WWE has to pay him every time they use his voice.

That's why in the new Bret Hart DVD Bret wasn't allowed to use all the matches he wanted because some of them had Jesse Ventura as the announcer.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 03, 2005, 11:06:09 AM
Well that's da bidness. I really don't feel bad for her and I can't blame Vince.



Trust me man. If she wants to lawyer up she can win.

Jesse Ventura once signed away his voice rights so WWF could use his commentary on tapes. He did so because he was told that all wrestlers did. When he found out that Hogan was getting percentages of the sales he got a lawyer and sued. Even though Ventura's signature was on a contract that said the WWE doesn't have to pay him for his voice, Ventura atill won a million dollars and WWE has to pay him every time they use his voice.

That's why in the new Bret Hart DVD Bret wasn't allowed to use all the matches he wanted because some of them had Jesse Ventura as the announcer.


They can just as easily pay Jesse royalty checks, or mute his voice out. I guess they don't always want to.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 03, 2005, 06:34:12 PM
Well that's da bidness. I really don't feel bad for her and I can't blame Vince.



Trust me man. If she wants to lawyer up she can win.

Jesse Ventura once signed away his voice rights so WWF could use his commentary on tapes. He did so because he was told that all wrestlers did. When he found out that Hogan was getting percentages of the sales he got a lawyer and sued. Even though Ventura's signature was on a contract that said the WWE doesn't have to pay him for his voice, Ventura atill won a million dollars and WWE has to pay him every time they use his voice.

I said it once, I'll say it again:

Well that's da bidness. I really don't feel bad for her and I can't blame Vince.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 03, 2005, 06:55:43 PM
Well that's da bidness. I really don't feel bad for her and I can't blame Vince.



Trust me man. If she wants to lawyer up she can win.

Jesse Ventura once signed away his voice rights so WWF could use his commentary on tapes. He did so because he was told that all wrestlers did. When he found out that Hogan was getting percentages of the sales he got a lawyer and sued. Even though Ventura's signature was on a contract that said the WWE doesn't have to pay him for his voice, Ventura atill won a million dollars and WWE has to pay him every time they use his voice.

I said it once, I'll say it again:

Well that's da bidness. I really don't feel bad for her and I can't blame Vince.



So let's say it was your mother who had gotten fired for being pregnant and a lawyer told her she could sue and win, you would tell her not to?
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Trauma-san on November 03, 2005, 07:01:50 PM
You have absolutely, again, no idea what you're talking about.  They have clauses in their contracts that simply say that they can be terminated, or quit, at any time for any reason.  There are penalties laid out for early termination of the contract, and that's that.  It's done all over the business world, but you wouldn't know that because you're likely mentally disabled and not allowed to leave the house. 

SHE COULD NOT SUE.  What you just described with Ventura is entirely different than what is going on with Dawn Marie.  They have absolutely no relation, and don't even deal with the same issues.  Hey, a woman got burnt with coffee from McDonalds and won.  Dawn Marie must be able to.  What the fuck?  Get a fucking clue. 
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 03, 2005, 08:07:59 PM
You have absolutely, again, no idea what you're talking about.  They have clauses in their contracts that simply say that they can be terminated, or quit, at any time for any reason.  There are penalties laid out for early termination of the contract, and that's that.  It's done all over the business world, but you wouldn't know that because you're likely mentally disabled and not allowed to leave the house. 

SHE COULD NOT SUE.  What you just described with Ventura is entirely different than what is going on with Dawn Marie.  They have absolutely no relation, and don't even deal with the same issues.  Hey, a woman got burnt with coffee from McDonalds and won.  Dawn Marie must be able to.  What the fuck?  Get a fucking clue. 


Actually, I used the Hunter Tylo example as proof that she could sue. An example you have yet to respond to. The Jesse Ventura example was merely to show that even in the wrestling business people can sue and win for things you wouldn't think were possible.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: herpes on November 03, 2005, 08:11:32 PM
Well that's da bidness. I really don't feel bad for her and I can't blame Vince.



Trust me man. If she wants to lawyer up she can win.

Jesse Ventura once signed away his voice rights so WWF could use his commentary on tapes. He did so because he was told that all wrestlers did. When he found out that Hogan was getting percentages of the sales he got a lawyer and sued. Even though Ventura's signature was on a contract that said the WWE doesn't have to pay him for his voice, Ventura atill won a million dollars and WWE has to pay him every time they use his voice.

That's why in the new Bret Hart DVD Bret wasn't allowed to use all the matches he wanted because some of them had Jesse Ventura as the announcer.

actually they didnt put certain matches in b/c bret would not allow it. They let bret choose the matches.  I cant wait for that dvd to drop.  But they could just edit out Ventura's voice like they did on the ultimate warrior dvd
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: herpes on November 03, 2005, 08:12:58 PM
Ronnie Lost
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: P Nelson on November 03, 2005, 09:32:45 PM
OKay were getting out of topic there.. do you think he'll come back or go to TNA?!
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 03, 2005, 11:30:54 PM
He'll probably do used car commercials in Florida.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 04, 2005, 08:44:44 AM
Well he's already in Florida, so TNA isn't far away. He could work a lot less and be booked like a main star of the show, but if he wants to one day come back to WWE he won't go to TNA. It all depends on how much money he has saved up and how much he wants to be booked as a main guy.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: -Euthanasia- on November 04, 2005, 11:49:25 AM
he wouldnt've quit if he wasnt financially secure. and raven gets mad cheddar doin his independent shit and hes the star of tna. christian could be huge for tna if he steers clear of doin a program with jarrett
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on November 04, 2005, 12:57:23 PM
he said he is financially secure

i think he may go to TNA if he is styll interested in wrestling, he could probably be a big star there and be used properly
he may even come back to WWE tho if he gets a good deal

only time will tell
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Perfection on November 04, 2005, 05:20:03 PM
he wouldnt've quit if he wasnt financially secure. and raven gets mad cheddar doin his independent shit and hes the star of tna. christian could be huge for tna if he steers clear of doin a program with jarrett

If he goes to TNA, then he's going to lose to the below midcarder Jeff Jarrett. That's a guarantee, it seems to happen to every wrestler that goes to TNA.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 04, 2005, 05:48:41 PM
he wouldnt've quit if he wasnt financially secure. and raven gets mad cheddar doin his independent shit and hes the star of tna. christian could be huge for tna if he steers clear of doin a program with jarrett

If he goes to TNA, then he's going to lose to the below midcarder Jeff Jarrett. That's a guarantee, it seems to happen to every wrestler that goes to TNA.


Christian is a bigger star than Jarret right now. That can't be said for any full time TNA guy that Jarret has beaten.


Rumours are flying about Benoit's contract being up in late November. If they low ball him like they apparently did Christian then he may not sign an extention either. If TNA gets Benoit then Jarrett is losing the belt for sure.

Jarrett is not the main guy any more and his father is more or less gone. A committee books the show now and the Carters have veto power. Jarrett's word can easily be overturned or ignored.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: westkoastanostra on November 05, 2005, 12:56:48 PM
man it sux that christian had to leave wwe....he coulda been a bigger star....thats if wwe allowed to be...
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Perfection on November 05, 2005, 04:07:32 PM
he wouldnt've quit if he wasnt financially secure. and raven gets mad cheddar doin his independent shit and hes the star of tna. christian could be huge for tna if he steers clear of doin a program with jarrett

If he goes to TNA, then he's going to lose to the below midcarder Jeff Jarrett. That's a guarantee, it seems to happen to every wrestler that goes to TNA.


Christian is a bigger star than Jarret right now. That can't be said for any full time TNA guy that Jarret has beaten.


Rumours are flying about Benoit's contract being up in late November. If they low ball him like they apparently did Christian then he may not sign an extention either. If TNA gets Benoit then Jarrett is losing the belt for sure.

Jarrett is not the main guy any more and his father is more or less gone. A committee books the show now and the Carters have veto power. Jarrett's word can easily be overturned or ignored.


WWE isn't going to let Chris Benoit go even if his contract is up.

Jarrett still has power has he was the one in neogiations for a TV deal & that he also tries & tell other superstars what they're going to do.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 06, 2005, 11:15:21 AM
he wouldnt've quit if he wasnt financially secure. and raven gets mad cheddar doin his independent shit and hes the star of tna. christian could be huge for tna if he steers clear of doin a program with jarrett

If he goes to TNA, then he's going to lose to the below midcarder Jeff Jarrett. That's a guarantee, it seems to happen to every wrestler that goes to TNA.


Christian is a bigger star than Jarret right now. That can't be said for any full time TNA guy that Jarret has beaten.


Rumours are flying about Benoit's contract being up in late November. If they low ball him like they apparently did Christian then he may not sign an extention either. If TNA gets Benoit then Jarrett is losing the belt for sure.

Jarrett is not the main guy any more and his father is more or less gone. A committee books the show now and the Carters have veto power. Jarrett's word can easily be overturned or ignored.


WWE isn't going to let Chris Benoit go even if his contract is up.

Jarrett still has power has he was the one in neogiations for a TV deal & that he also tries & tell other superstars what they're going to do.


What I mean is Jarrett can be turned down. His father isn't runnng the show anymore.

WWE may not let Chris Benoit go, but Chris Benoit may want to go and WWE can't stop him if he does.


Either way, both Christian and Benoit are bigger names than Jarret and can do more for the title. Jarret knows this. If Matt Hardy used common sense in the summer then he'd be TNA champion right now. Jarrett keeps getting hte belt because no one with any name recognition is ready to hold that title. AJ is good but he needs more exposure to a larger audience. Same goes for Samoa Joe.
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Perfection on November 06, 2005, 11:36:04 AM
he wouldnt've quit if he wasnt financially secure. and raven gets mad cheddar doin his independent shit and hes the star of tna. christian could be huge for tna if he steers clear of doin a program with jarrett

If he goes to TNA, then he's going to lose to the below midcarder Jeff Jarrett. That's a guarantee, it seems to happen to every wrestler that goes to TNA.


Christian is a bigger star than Jarret right now. That can't be said for any full time TNA guy that Jarret has beaten.


Rumours are flying about Benoit's contract being up in late November. If they low ball him like they apparently did Christian then he may not sign an extention either. If TNA gets Benoit then Jarrett is losing the belt for sure.

Jarrett is not the main guy any more and his father is more or less gone. A committee books the show now and the Carters have veto power. Jarrett's word can easily be overturned or ignored.


WWE isn't going to let Chris Benoit go even if his contract is up.

Jarrett still has power has he was the one in neogiations for a TV deal & that he also tries & tell other superstars what they're going to do.


What I mean is Jarrett can be turned down. His father isn't runnng the show anymore.

WWE may not let Chris Benoit go, but Chris Benoit may want to go and WWE can't stop him if he does.


Either way, both Christian and Benoit are bigger names than Jarret and can do more for the title. Jarret knows this. If Matt Hardy used common sense in the summer then he'd be TNA champion right now. Jarrett keeps getting the belt because no one with any name recognition is ready to hold that title. AJ is good but he needs more exposure to a larger audience. Same goes for Samoa Joe.

Benoit has said in previsous interviews that he doesn't want to leave WWE & that he'll probably be done wreswtling when he does leave WWE
Title: Re: Christian quits WWE
Post by: Shallow on November 06, 2005, 12:36:22 PM
he wouldnt've quit if he wasnt financially secure. and raven gets mad cheddar doin his independent shit and hes the star of tna. christian could be huge for tna if he steers clear of doin a program with jarrett

If he goes to TNA, then he's going to lose to the below midcarder Jeff Jarrett. That's a guarantee, it seems to happen to every wrestler that goes to TNA.


Christian is a bigger star than Jarret right now. That can't be said for any full time TNA guy that Jarret has beaten.


Rumours are flying about Benoit's contract being up in late November. If they low ball him like they apparently did Christian then he may not sign an extention either. If TNA gets Benoit then Jarrett is losing the belt for sure.

Jarrett is not the main guy any more and his father is more or less gone. A committee books the show now and the Carters have veto power. Jarrett's word can easily be overturned or ignored.


WWE isn't going to let Chris Benoit go even if his contract is up.

Jarrett still has power has he was the one in neogiations for a TV deal & that he also tries & tell other superstars what they're going to do.


What I mean is Jarrett can be turned down. His father isn't runnng the show anymore.

WWE may not let Chris Benoit go, but Chris Benoit may want to go and WWE can't stop him if he does.


Either way, both Christian and Benoit are bigger names than Jarret and can do more for the title. Jarret knows this. If Matt Hardy used common sense in the summer then he'd be TNA champion right now. Jarrett keeps getting the belt because no one with any name recognition is ready to hold that title. AJ is good but he needs more exposure to a larger audience. Same goes for Samoa Joe.

Benoit has said in previsous interviews that he doesn't want to leave WWE & that he'll probably be done wreswtling when he does leave WWE


Meltzer has reported that Benoit has been offered half of his current contract for the renewal. If that's true then he'll leave and stay home with is family.

What you have to realize is going to TNA is not a full time gig. He'd only have to wrestle 2 or 3 times a month, as opposed to the 3 or 4 times a week he wrestles now. He can live at home show up every 2 weeks and help out a lot of younger guys trying to make it in this business. Younger guys he has a lot of respect for. The kind of younger guy he used to be. I would not be surprised at all if he shows up at TNA. Not for Chris Benoit, but for all the young workers out there breaing their backs for a chance to shine. He can't do that in the WWE.