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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Jome on November 07, 2005, 05:12:37 PM
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17 held in Australia terror swoop
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/11/07/australia.terror/index.html
SYDNEY, Australia (CNN) -- Australian authorities have arrested 17 people Tuesday on counterterrorism charges in Melbourne and Sydney and credited their 18-month investigation with averting terrorist bombings.
"We believe that we've been able to significantly disrupt a proposed terrorist attack here in Australia," New South Wales Police Commissioner Ken Moroney told Australia's Channel 7 Television.
Australia's Sky News services reports that one suspect who had been under surveillance was shot and wounded by police involved in the raids. Police did not immediately confirm the man was a terror suspect.
An Associated Press photographer on the scene said a bomb squad robot was being used to examine a backpack the suspect was wearing when he was shot, The Associated Press reports.
Among those arrested is a prominent Melbourne-based Islamic cleric Abu Bakr. He is the only person arrested so far to be named.
Bakr has previously stated support for al Qaeda mastermind Osama Bin Laden and for terrorist causes around the world.
Followers of Bakr had been known to have traveled to Afghanistan for terror training, but it was not known if they were among those arrested Tuesday, Channel Nine reporter Sarah Ferguson told CNN.
The men have been charged with offenses "that include sections of Commonwealth legislation that have not been previously used, relating to being a member of a terrorist group, conspiring to commit a terrorist act and directing a terrorist organization," the Australian Federal Police said in a written statement.
The arrests followed the execution of 22 search warrants across Sydney and Melbourne Tuesday morning during which a range of material "including unidentified substances, firearms, travel documents, computers and backpacks" was seized, the statement said.
"By working collaboratively, Australia's law enforcement and intelligence agencies have managed to disrupt the alleged activities of this group and therefore protect the Australian community from a potential terrorist threat," Australian Federal Police Deputy Commissioner John Lawler said.
Police arrested eight people in New South Wales state and nine people in Victoria state.
The charges include acts in preparation of a terrorist act, being a member of a terrorist group, and conspiracy to commit a terrorist act.
One man also has been charged with directing a terrorist organization.
"Today's arrests follow a lengthy operation where law enforcement and intelligence agencies have been monitoring and investigating the activities of a group allegedly intent on carrying out what we assess as some sort of terrorist act in Australia," NSW Police Commissioner Ken Moroney said.
"It will be alleged in court that following months of discussion, individuals had moved to the point of planning some sort of activity including the purchase of potentially dangerous materials."
Asked if bombings had been planned, Moroney said, "Certainly so."
Chemicals that, when mixed, could have made a bomb, were confiscated, he said.
Those arrested "don't appear to belong to an organization by name, per se," but the two groups were closely connected, Moroney said.
Prime Minister's terror warning
At least five of the eight taken into custody in New South Wales were Australian citizens, though they were born elsewhere, he said.
"It's not so much the nature of the ethnic origin or any religious issue; the prime issue for us as law enforcement agencies certainly has to be the prevention and investigation of acts of terrorism."
The warrants are part of a joint counterterrorism operation by the Australian Federal Police, New South Wales Police, Victoria Police, the New South Wales Crime Commission and Australian Security Intelligence Organization.
The arrests come less than a week after Prime Minster John Howard held a nationally televised news conference in which he said Australia had received intelligence about a "terrorist threat."
Howard also recalled Australia's upper house of parliament so it could pass urgent amendments to controversial anti-terror laws on Thursday which now allow police to charge people in the early stages of planning an attack.
Australia, a steadfast ally of the Bush administration, has never suffered a major terror attack on home soil but its embassy and citizens have been targeted in neighboring Indonesia.
Eighty-eight Australians were among the 202 people killed in the October 2002 Bali nightclub bombings.
The country has been on medium security alert since shortly after the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
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haha, think about the children!
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
clearly not. well, maybe antartica... but you know those infedel penguins! ::)
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Australians are pretty bad-ass. they probably took the little bitches down with their bare hands.
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
Well technically it isn't viewed as terrorism where it is funded by the leadership so I guess most of the totalitarian Arab States have no Islamic "terrorism" since terrorism is part of the law enforcement there. ;)....The law of anarchy, death and autocracy.
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
Well technically it isn't viewed as terrorism where it is funded by the leadership
Good point. I agree... this is why Israel's actions aren't labeled as terrorist acts. At least we both know and understand why this is so.
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Australians are pretty bad-ass. they probably took the little bitches down with their bare hands.
Yeah Australian cops will beat u up quietly in a cell. :D
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
Well technically it isn't viewed as terrorism where it is funded by the leadership
Good point. I agree... this is why Israel's actions aren't labeled as terrorist acts. At least we both know and understand why this is so.
:D
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Was reading the follow up to this story and apparently there was a major mess up with taking down on of the suspects.
Despite there being 300 specially trained terror officers in Sydney on the day it occured, four general police officers (of whom weren't wearing any armored protection and only carrying hand guns..lol) were sent to pick up one of the suspects. Despite being under fire as soon as they rocked up at one of the suspects house, they were able to detain the suspect with only one of the officers getting a grazed hand from a near missed bullet.
They were lucky but cause a bit of an embarassment to our 'specialist' terrorist procedures.
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lucky u got em because they'd been casing ur nuclear facility
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17 held in Australia terror swoop
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/11/07/australia.terror/index.html
SYDNEY, Australia (CNN) -- Australian authorities have arrested 17 people Tuesday on counterterrorism charges in Melbourne and Sydney and credited their 18-month investigation with averting terrorist bombings.
"We believe that we've been able to significantly disrupt a proposed terrorist attack here in Australia," New South Wales Police Commissioner Ken Moroney told Australia's Channel 7 Television.
Australia's Sky News services reports that one suspect who had been under surveillance was shot and wounded by police involved in the raids. Police did not immediately confirm the man was a terror suspect.
An Associated Press photographer on the scene said a bomb squad robot was being used to examine a backpack the suspect was wearing when he was shot, The Associated Press reports.
Among those arrested is a prominent Melbourne-based Islamic cleric Abu Bakr. He is the only person arrested so far to be named.
Bakr has previously stated support for al Qaeda mastermind Osama Bin Laden and for terrorist causes around the world.
Followers of Bakr had been known to have traveled to Afghanistan for terror training, but it was not known if they were among those arrested Tuesday, Channel Nine reporter Sarah Ferguson told CNN.
The men have been charged with offenses "that include sections of Commonwealth legislation that have not been previously used, relating to being a member of a terrorist group, conspiring to commit a terrorist act and directing a terrorist organization," the Australian Federal Police said in a written statement.
The arrests followed the execution of 22 search warrants across Sydney and Melbourne Tuesday morning during which a range of material "including unidentified substances, firearms, travel documents, computers and backpacks" was seized, the statement said.
"By working collaboratively, Australia's law enforcement and intelligence agencies have managed to disrupt the alleged activities of this group and therefore protect the Australian community from a potential terrorist threat," Australian Federal Police Deputy Commissioner John Lawler said.
Police arrested eight people in New South Wales state and nine people in Victoria state.
The charges include acts in preparation of a terrorist act, being a member of a terrorist group, and conspiracy to commit a terrorist act.
One man also has been charged with directing a terrorist organization.
"Today's arrests follow a lengthy operation where law enforcement and intelligence agencies have been monitoring and investigating the activities of a group allegedly intent on carrying out what we assess as some sort of terrorist act in Australia," NSW Police Commissioner Ken Moroney said.
"It will be alleged in court that following months of discussion, individuals had moved to the point of planning some sort of activity including the purchase of potentially dangerous materials."
Asked if bombings had been planned, Moroney said, "Certainly so."
Chemicals that, when mixed, could have made a bomb, were confiscated, he said.
Those arrested "don't appear to belong to an organization by name, per se," but the two groups were closely connected, Moroney said.
Prime Minister's terror warning
At least five of the eight taken into custody in New South Wales were Australian citizens, though they were born elsewhere, he said.
"It's not so much the nature of the ethnic origin or any religious issue; the prime issue for us as law enforcement agencies certainly has to be the prevention and investigation of acts of terrorism."
The warrants are part of a joint counterterrorism operation by the Australian Federal Police, New South Wales Police, Victoria Police, the New South Wales Crime Commission and Australian Security Intelligence Organization.
The arrests come less than a week after Prime Minster John Howard held a nationally televised news conference in which he said Australia had received intelligence about a "terrorist threat."
Howard also recalled Australia's upper house of parliament so it could pass urgent amendments to controversial anti-terror laws on Thursday which now allow police to charge people in the early stages of planning an attack.
Australia, a steadfast ally of the Bush administration, has never suffered a major terror attack on home soil but its embassy and citizens have been targeted in neighboring Indonesia.
Eighty-eight Australians were among the 202 people killed in the October 2002 Bali nightclub bombings.
The country has been on medium security alert since shortly after the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.
Another story that's probably fake and probably based on false intelligence.
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there was no prophet mohammid the koran was based on lies
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there was no prophet mohammid the koran was based on lies
#1. I doubt you've ever read the Qu'ran.
#2. Your not a Muslim, so I don't expect you to call him a Prophet.
#3. I challenge you to find one lie in the Qu'ran.
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http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,17238873%255E1702,00.html
this fucked up my day yesterday.
What kind of moron touches himself over hoax calls that stop public transportation for a day?
when they catch him he's gonnnnnna get cruicified. or tickled
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there was no prophet mohammid the koran was based on lies
shut up u stupid geezer go eat spotted dick and sing god save the queen
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out the front of my work last night, there were these two arab dudes fighting... one of em tried to kick the other, so he grabbed his shoe, took it off him and started beating him with it... when he finished he ditched the shoe at him... funniest shit i ever saw...
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there was no prophet mohammid the koran was based on lies
shut up u stupid geezer go eat spotted dick and sing god save the queen
lol i was just making a joke he seems to think everything we are told is lies some of it is but not everything, so i'd just made another comment like his with no proof to back it up like her is always doing... don't take it seriously however most of the religious books are based on made up stories, not that its necessarily a bad thing because in most cases they help guide people to live better lives.
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^ nuthin made up in the Quran
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out the front of my work last night, there were these two arab dudes fighting... one of em tried to kick the other, so he grabbed his shoe, took it off him and started beating him with it... when he finished he ditched the shoe at him... funniest shit i ever saw...
nothin made up in this story !! WORSHIP ME !
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there was no prophet mohammid the koran was based on lies
shut up u stupid geezer go eat spotted dick and sing god save the queen
lol i was just making a joke he seems to think everything we are told is lies some of it is but not everything, so i'd just made another comment like his with no proof to back it up like her is always doing... don't take it seriously however most of the religious books are based on made up stories, not that its necessarily a bad thing because in most cases they help guide people to live better lives.
yeah okay, i get ya point. But ur orignal comment just byitself was pretty foul. Im not religious but i cant stand intolerance. If you think somebody's religion is bullshit you dont have to tell them it is.
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
yeah in canada!
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
yeah in canada!
Really, because they've been busting groups in Toronto recently. Toronto is part of Canada.
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
yeah in canada!
Really, because they've been busting groups in Toronto recently. Toronto is part of Canada.
was canada even involved in the iraq war ?
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
yeah in canada!
Really, because they've been busting groups in Toronto recently. Toronto is part of Canada.
was canada even involved in the iraq war ?
No but we are fairly involved in the Afganistan conflict.
Actually it's disputable. Officially there are no Canadian soldiers there, but this guy I worked with swore on his life that he has a friend over there who wears a US army uniform, and as far as anyone knows this guy and several others are US troops.
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
yeah in canada!
Really, because they've been busting groups in Toronto recently. Toronto is part of Canada.
i didnt know they've busted some group in toronto and trust me i know where toronto is lol i live in canada 2 lol
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
yeah in canada!
Really, because they've been busting groups in Toronto recently. Toronto is part of Canada.
i didnt know they've busted some group in toronto and trust me i know where toronto is lol i live in canada 2 lol
lol, I know. I was just being a smart ass. You're from Quebec right?
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
yeah in canada!
Really, because they've been busting groups in Toronto recently. Toronto is part of Canada.
was canada even involved in the iraq war ?
No but we are fairly involved in the Afganistan conflict.
Actually it's disputable. Officially there are no Canadian soldiers there, but this guy I worked with swore on his life that he has a friend over there who wears a US army uniform, and as far as anyone knows this guy and several others are US troops.
then technically those sand people have no right to attack canada... they say they only attack if provoked...
same deal with France, they stayed clear of the conflict, but because there are so many fucking arabs in France, they look for different reasons to threaten the country. shameless bastards.
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
yeah in canada!
Really, because they've been busting groups in Toronto recently. Toronto is part of Canada.
was canada even involved in the iraq war ?
No but we are fairly involved in the Afganistan conflict.
Actually it's disputable. Officially there are no Canadian soldiers there, but this guy I worked with swore on his life that he has a friend over there who wears a US army uniform, and as far as anyone knows this guy and several others are US troops.
then technically those sand people have no right to attack canada... they say they only attack if provoked...
same deal with France, they stayed clear of the conflict, but because there are so many fucking arabs in France, they look for different reasons to threaten the country. shameless bastards.
Some have said they want to attack Canada because it's a prominently White, Christian country. A bit ridiculous if you ask me, but I don't claim to understand fundamentalism.
Staying out of Iraq was one of the wisest decisions made by Canada's federal government, really the only thing that they handled really well. A quote from our Prime Minister at the time on why we wouldn't join the coalition:
"A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven."
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
yeah in canada!
Really, because they've been busting groups in Toronto recently. Toronto is part of Canada.
i didnt know they've busted some group in toronto and trust me i know where toronto is lol i live in canada 2 lol
lol, I know. I was just being a smart ass. You're from Quebec right?
yeah i live near montreal (about 15 minutes by car)
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This is getting to be ridiculous. Is there any country in the world where Islamic terror does not exist?
yeah in canada!
Really, because they've been busting groups in Toronto recently. Toronto is part of Canada.
i didnt know they've busted some group in toronto and trust me i know where toronto is lol i live in canada 2 lol
lol, I know. I was just being a smart ass. You're from Quebec right?
yeah i live near montreal (about 15 minutes by car)
Man, my family and I drove past Montreal this summer, worst traffic I've ever seen in my life. 2 Hours sitting in the car barely moving. Do you guys not have a good rapid transit system? Toronto is like 25 times better since the Go-Train really took off. I don't go there much but last couple times I went to Toronto there was no traffic compared to 5-10 years ago.
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out the front of my work last night, there were these two arab dudes fighting... one of em tried to kick the other, so he grabbed his shoe, took it off him and started beating him with it... when he finished he ditched the shoe at him... funniest shit i ever saw...
lol i can just see borat grabbing some dudes leg to pull his shoe off. all uncoordinated and awkward shit