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Title: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Real American on November 07, 2005, 07:32:39 PM
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10 Officers Shot As French Riots Continue
Posted on Sunday, November 06 @ 22:59:28 PST by Intellpuke (102 reads) 

Rioters fired shotguns at the police in a working-class suburb of Paris on Sunday, wounding 10 officers as the country's fast-spreading urban unrest escalated dangerously. Just hours earlier, President Jacques Chirac called an emergency meeting of top security officials and promised increased police pressure to confront the violence.


"The republic is completely determined to be stronger than those who want to sow violence or fear," Chirac said at a news conference in the courtyard of Élysée Palace after meeting with his internal security council. "The last word must be from the law."



But the violence, which has become one of the most serious challenges to governmental authority here in nearly 40 years, showed no sign of abating, and Sunday was the first day that police officers had been wounded by gunfire in the unrest. More than 3,300 vehicles have been destroyed, along with dozens of public buildings and private businesses, since the violence began.



"This is just the beginning," said Moussa Diallo, 22, a tall, unemployed French-African man in Clichy-sous-Bois, the working-class Parisian suburb where the violence started Oct. 27. "It's not going to end until there are two policemen dead."



He was referring to the two teenage boys, one of Mauritanian origin and the other of Tunisian origin, whose accidental deaths while hiding from the police touched off the unrest, reflecting longstanding anger among many immigrant families here over joblessness and discrimination. Diallo did not say whether he had taken part in the vandalism.





On Saturday night alone, the tally in the rioting reached a peak of 1,300 vehicles burned, stretching into the heart of Paris, where 35 vehicles were destroyed, and touching a dozen other cities across the country.



Fires were burning in several places on Sunday night and hundreds of youths were reported to have clashed with the police in Grigny, a southern suburb of Paris where the shooting took place. On Saturday night, a car was rammed into the front of a McDonald's restaurant in the town.



"We have 10 policemen that were hit by gunfire in Grigny, and two of them are in the hospital," Patrick Hamon, a national police spokesman, said Monday morning. He said one of the officers hospitalized had been hit in the neck, the other in the leg, but added that neither wound was considered life-threatening.



Rampaging youths have attacked the police and property in cities as far away as Toulouse and Marseille and in the resort towns of Cannes and Nice in the south, the industrial city of Lille in the north and Strasbourg to the east.



In Évreux, 60 miles west of Paris, shops, businesses, a post office and two schools were destroyed, along with at least 50 vehicles, in Saturday night's most concentrated attacks. Five police officers and three firefighters were injured in clashes with young rioters, a national police spokesman said.



Despite help from thousands of reinforcements, the police appeared powerless to stop the mayhem. As they apply pressure in one area, the attacks slip away to another.



On Sunday, a gaping hole exposed a charred wooden staircase of a smoke-blackened building in the historic Marais district of Paris, where a car was set ablaze the previous night. Florent Besnard, 24, said he and a friend had just turned into the quiet Rue Dupuis when they were passed by two running youths. Within seconds, a car farther up the street was engulfed in flames, its windows popping and tires exploding as the fire spread to the building and surrounding vehicles.



"I think it's going to continue," said Besnard, who is unemployed.



The attack angered people in the neighborhood, which includes the old Jewish quarter and is still a center of Jewish life in the city. "We escaped from Romania with nothing and came here and worked our fingers to the bone and never asked for anything, never complained," said Liliane Zump, a woman in her 70's, shaking with fury on the street outside the scarred building.



While the arson is more common than in the past, it has become a feature of life in the working-class suburbs, peopled primarily by North African and West African immigrants and their French-born children. Unemployment in the neighborhoods is double and sometimes triple the 10 percent national average, while incomes are about 40 percent lower.



While everyone seems to agree that the latest violence was touched off by the deaths of the teenagers last week, the unrest no longer has much to do with the incident.



Most people said they sensed that the escalation of the past few days had changed the rules of the game: besides the number of attacks, the level of destruction has grown sharply, with substantial businesses and public buildings going down in flames. Besides the gunfire on Sunday, residents of some high-rise apartment blocks have been throwing steel boccie balls and improvised explosives at national riot police officers patrolling below.



In the Parisian suburb of Aubervilliers early Sunday, with smoke hanging in the air and a helicopter humming overhead, a helmeted police officer in a flak jacket carried a soft drink bottle gingerly away from where it had landed near him and his colleagues moments before. The bottle, half-filled with a clear liquid and nails, had failed to explode.



Teenagers in neighboring Clichy-sous-Bois said they had seen young men preparing similar devices with acid and aluminum foil. "They make a huge bang," said Sofiane Belkalem, 13.



The police discovered what they described as a firebomb factory in a building in Évry, south of Paris, in which about 150 bombs were being constructed, a third of them ready to use. Six minors were arrested.



Many politicians have warned that the unrest may be coalescing into an organized movement, citing Internet chatter that is urging other poor neighborhoods across France to join in.



Though a majority of the youths committing the acts are Muslim, and of African or North African origin, the mayhem has yet to take on any ideological or religious overtones. Youths in the neighborhoods say second-generation Portuguese immigrants and even some children of native French have taken part.



In an effort to stop the attacks and distance them from Islam, France's most influential Islamic group issued a religious edict, or fatwa, condemning the violence. "It is formally forbidden for any Muslim seeking divine grace and satisfaction to participate in any action that blindly hits private or public property or could constitute an attack on someone's life," the fatwa said, citing the Koran and the teachings of Muhammad.



Young people in the poor neighborhoods incubating the violence have consistently complained that police harassment is mainly to blame. "If you're treated like a dog, you react like a dog," said Diallo of Clichy-sous-Bois, whose parents came to France from Mali decades ago.



The youths have singled out the French interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, complaining about his zero-tolerance anticrime drive and dismissive talk. (He famously called troublemakers in the poor neighborhoods dregs, using a French slur that offended many people.)



But Sarkozy has not wavered, and after suffering initial isolation within the government, with at least one minister openly criticizing him, the government has closed ranks around him. President Chirac, who is under political and popular pressure to stop the violence, said Sunday that those responsible would face arrest and trial, echoing earlier vows by Sarkozy. More than 500 people have been arrested, some as young as 13.



The government response is as much a test between Sarkozy and Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, both of whom want to succeed Chirac as president, as it is a test between the government and disaffected youths.



Villepin, a former foreign minister, has focused on a more diplomatic approach, consulting widely with community leaders and young second-generation immigrants to come up with a promised "action plan" that he said would address frustrations in the underprivileged neighborhoods. He has released no details of the plan.



If the damage escalates and sympathy for the rioters begins to fray, Sarkozy could well emerge the politically stronger of the two.



Intellpuke: "The violence needs to stop, and quickly, or any sympathy for the rioters will evaporate and the deplorable conditions they are allegedly trying to draw attention to will be ignored. This is a very well written article by New York Times reporter Craig S. Smith, with contributions from reporter Ariane Bernard. You can read more of this article here.

 

   
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: J Bananas on November 07, 2005, 07:34:00 PM
will those monsters stop at nothing?
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Real American on November 07, 2005, 07:35:20 PM
I am interested in reading everyone's views on the situation over there.

I am guessing Ant will reply by calling me a "bitch" and an "idiot", and then completely ignoring the topic at hand. And Tech will probably respond with something along the lines of "Buck buck, lick shots. Booyaka booyaka".  But what do the rest of you guys think?
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Kassem on November 07, 2005, 07:38:47 PM
If you're treated like a dog, you react like a dog,
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Machiavelli on November 07, 2005, 08:03:23 PM
civil war is coming...then the french are gunna want americas help, lol yeah okay :D
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: Javier on November 07, 2005, 08:24:02 PM
I dont know how the situation is over there since I havent experienced it first hand, but I highly doubt that these riots are caused by them being young muslims/blacks or it's because of diversity.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Fonky Fresh on November 07, 2005, 08:41:08 PM
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WATCH>>>TV ZAPPING<<< (http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2BZX9GRJJ4LDA3BRUXO7TSXDAA)
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 07, 2005, 08:51:08 PM
VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: late night on November 07, 2005, 09:30:54 PM
the revolution iz comming...
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: Javier on November 07, 2005, 10:14:31 PM
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WATCH>>>insight-france_riots_issues-11.08.05-cnn_int.wmv<<< (http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=313NCZQTZO0MI3FEC7RVKI2YIJ)


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Props on the vids...well the CNN one i dont know french to enjoy the 2nd one  :P
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Wicked977 on November 07, 2005, 10:17:48 PM
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Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 08, 2005, 02:17:43 AM
the french legnected this whole community so it was bound to happen sooner or later and then they fanned the flames calling them scum, to top it off it took 9 days of roiting before chirac even openned his mouth to comment.....
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: 7even on November 08, 2005, 06:18:38 AM
This shit will get hardcore soon. The French will have to send in some  real  police soon, it's embarrassing to have your authorities getting owned by unemployed people, lol.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Trauma-san on November 08, 2005, 06:32:05 AM
They have areas in France that are almost intirely immigrant.  that's not diversity.  That's "You have people living here who are nothing like you, and they're all banding together to do some bad shit".  The crime rates were horrible in these suburbs of Paris~, and recently the cops started pressuring them more trying to clean some of it up.  As a result of their immigration policies, and their failure to properly police the areas in the past, they now have people rebelling against the cops, who now all of a sudden give a damn that the crime rate is so high.  The 80% muslim population of some of these areas isn't happy with that, so they're burning down everything in sight.   

So you're right, diversity isn't the problem.  Those areas aren't diverse! They're 80% inhabited by people they let in from another country, and are now treating the French land as they treated their other country.  "Diversity" is the turned on college kid word of the moment, I guess, but just because you have immigrants doesn't mean it's adding to the "Diversity".  People would be better off to use their fucking HEAD and analyze what their eyes see, and their mind tells them, then to use little buzz words they heard their favorite democrat say on television. 

Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: Don Seer on November 08, 2005, 06:36:04 AM
^ no its not diversity.. but over here the immigrants gravitate towards each other.. we dont have these "sink camps"..

the french legnected this whole community so it was bound to happen sooner or later and then they fanned the flames calling them scum, to top it off it took 9 days of roiting before chirac even openned his mouth to comment.....

yup.. and you missed the final hilarous thing.. when he did open his mouth he threatened them and fanned the flames again!


helter skelter is coming.. but its not quite like manson expected ;)

Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: Noname on November 08, 2005, 08:43:59 AM
If you look at the situtation with the people over there, who aint got no chance at a future, or work. This was bound to happen. And you see it helped, because president chirac said he was gonna set up school projects and shit. But shit is still getting crazy the police is asking the army for help. Its straight anarchy, fuck the system.

Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 08, 2005, 10:08:12 AM
Ha haha ha I am loving this

Burn motherfucka Burn

Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 08, 2005, 10:44:11 AM
Ha haha ha I am loving this

Burn motherfucka Burn


yea me too the french deserve everything they get i don't have any sympathy for them
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: mauzip on November 08, 2005, 11:33:54 AM

Ha haha ha I am loving this

Burn motherfucka Burn


yea me too the french deserve everything they get i don't have any sympathy for them

you didn't really quit smoking, did you? ::)
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: Lincoln on November 08, 2005, 11:36:28 AM
Ha haha ha I am loving this

Burn motherfucka Burn


yea me too the french deserve everything they get i don't have any sympathy for them

That's messed up man, nobody deserves their country being like this.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 08, 2005, 11:39:15 AM
This is straight up bullshit....I can't believe how rationalizing this board is towards anarchy. A part of me sees this as some sort of cosmic justice since France's foregin policy is very rationalizing towards this kind of anarchy when it comes to other countries, maybe seeing it from a different angle will help the French leadership to be more  just in the future. Bottom line though, I think this mess needs to stop immediately, the authorities need to resolve this situation because the safety of the civil population is at risk.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: J Bananas on November 08, 2005, 11:50:08 AM
i dont understand how hard it is to send in troops and put the streets on lock.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: big mat on November 08, 2005, 11:51:47 AM
dammmm, what the hell are they waiting for? get the army in here and shot at sight, that's what we did here with the mowaks back in 89
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 08, 2005, 12:28:12 PM

Ha haha ha I am loving this

Burn motherfucka Burn


yea me too the french deserve everything they get i don't have any sympathy for them

you didn't really quit smoking, did you? ::)
yea i did quit, if u want me to go into my reason why i hate the french i will do happily...
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: white Boy on November 08, 2005, 12:36:36 PM
wait, can someone simply explain this to me. For 1, why all the hate against the french? 2, why is the riot going on? and 3, how can anyone possibly be happy about this riot?
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Fonky Fresh on November 08, 2005, 12:43:29 PM

Ha haha ha I am loving this

Burn motherfucka Burn


yea me too the french deserve everything they get i don't have any sympathy for them

you didn't really quit smoking, did you? ::)
yea i did quit, if u want me to go into my reason why i hate the french i will do happily...
just shut up u english pudding its not bcuz we have stolen ur car when u went to paris last time that u must open ur mouth hidden behind ur screen muahaaa
& quit out the word ''don''  from ur nick, u aint a don ....u wanna be ..but u ain't
some str8 clown right here
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 08, 2005, 01:20:15 PM
last time i went to france they just reaffirmed my hate, they're just a bunch of arogant grumpy mofos who can't do their jobs properly....I went into a bar asked for a larger and got bitter and they wouldn't swap it when i told the guy he got it wrong. only thing france is good for is stocking up on cheap booze from the hyper market
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: white Boy on November 08, 2005, 01:44:55 PM
last time i went to france they just reaffirmed my hate, they're just a bunch of arogant grumpy mofos who can't do their jobs properly....I went into a bar asked for a larger and got bitter and they wouldn't swap it when i told the guy he got it wrong. only thing france is good for is stocking up on cheap booze from the hyper market
so u hate french people and wish death on them cause they got your drink wrong.........................
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: NoLimitIndo on November 08, 2005, 01:55:34 PM
French people are known for their hate towards non-white people..Thats what u get for fuckin immigrants 4 so long. I live 6 hours driving from Paris. One time my brother and me were stopped at the border on our way from amsterdam to paris.. The only peeps they were searching and asking for ID were us. Maybe that's just one experience 4 me ... but i know they (police, authorities) harras immigrants in a lot of parts of France.. Refuse em in clubs.. discrimination when they lookin 4 a job. Just like here in Holland and some parts of Europe so i know 4 sure this kinda shit also gonna happen here
They asked for it so they can get it...
i don't say it's ok.. but i understand the frustrations
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 08, 2005, 02:11:26 PM
last time i went to france they just reaffirmed my hate, they're just a bunch of arogant grumpy mofos who can't do their jobs properly....I went into a bar asked for a larger and got bitter and they wouldn't swap it when i told the guy he got it wrong. only thing france is good for is stocking up on cheap booze from the hyper market
so u hate french people and wish death on them cause they got your drink wrong.........................
no i never said i wish death upon them, i just don't like them...... and its not just cos they got they can't do their jobs properly...their politicians are all corrupt, they screw over the EU for their own gains and they make trouble for britain at every opportunity, we came to their aid plenty of times and get no thanks, they let don't secure their borders encouraging illegal immigrants to enter britain via the channel tunnel, they won't give up the CAP whose only benefit is to make rich french farmers richer and poor countries poorer, they export their poofy french mimers onto the streets of london to annoy the crap out of everyone, they have no respictible place on the international stage because they couldn't give anything to the quake in asia and when nato agree to train up the iraqi forces they committed one man who would be based in france wtf is up with that? i could go on and on......
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Fonky Fresh on November 08, 2005, 03:11:48 PM
last time i went to france they just reaffirmed my hate, they're just a bunch of arogant grumpy mofos who can't do their jobs properly....I went into a bar asked for a larger and got bitter and they wouldn't swap it when i told the guy he got it wrong. only thing france is good for is stocking up on cheap booze from the hyper market
so u hate french people and wish death on them cause they got your drink wrong.........................
no i never said i wish death upon them, i just don't like them...... and its not just cos they got they can't do their jobs properly...their politicians are all corrupt, they screw over the EU for their own gains and they make trouble for britain at every opportunity, we came to their aid plenty of times and get no thanks, they let don't secure their borders encouraging illegal immigrants to enter britain via the channel tunnel, they won't give up the CAP whose only benefit is to make rich french farmers richer and poor countries poorer, they export their poofy french mimers onto the streets of london to annoy the crap out of everyone, they have no respictible place on the international stage because they couldn't give anything to the quake in asia and when nato agree to train up the iraqi forces they committed one man who would be based in france wtf is up with that? i could go on and on......
i agree on one point: our farmers shouldn't export our good wine & cheese 'n all the good stuff to ur country this is a fucking outrage yall don't deserve that food, u even don't know appreciate it
what u know about good food anyway? lol

'n who the fuck didnt pick euro as new money for its country? lol
who the fuck is buying houses in west south france to spend vacations bcuz ur country is so cold that no trees would grow up ,lol

Of course we have a respectable place in the international scene & since many years, jealousy &envy makes u cry u english suckers we learnt that years ago.

since we know u are not a part of the real europe(geographic related pb) we built the tunnel under ''the manche'' just to satisfy u mofos.WE should have not done that & let u export ur awful pudding & atroce rock trough boats,plane still

the credibility aint to prove for us..red cross n organisations like that accross the globe rules now


I'd rather spend sum time with a japanese dude than a english motherfucker ,str8 up

All the english philosophy could be resumed as''MONEY MONEY,MONEY'' beside this ..the ''BIG BLANK'' what a good plan, wow

We don't need ur help & we intend to rule europe like we did in the past but we got to solve these immigrations problems since all those fucking politicians screwed all this up troughout the last 20 years.

when i say we i mean my government i still got faith in my government at least several heads but our prisident is :
A: too fucking old
B:he's sick
C:he aint legit, bcuz we voted for him last time due to ''LE PEN'' motherfucker who could possibly reach the presidential throne.
D: a well known motherfucker who's involved in money robbery cases(well like many politicians on this earth i believe)

he got to leave now im tired of this mofo

stupid azz,uz a clown & u know nathen >> don't even speak.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: J Bananas on November 08, 2005, 03:11:59 PM
Maybe the world just needs to lower it's expectations of France, let it be on the same level as Ireland or something so when they can't get off their lazy asses and help anyone we won't hate them as much.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Low Key on November 08, 2005, 03:30:57 PM
last time i went to france they just reaffirmed my hate, they're just a bunch of arogant grumpy mofos who can't do their jobs properly....I went into a bar asked for a larger and got bitter and they wouldn't swap it when i told the guy he got it wrong. only thing france is good for is stocking up on cheap booze from the hyper market
so u hate french people and wish death on them cause they got your drink wrong.........................
no i never said i wish death upon them, i just don't like them...... and its not just cos they got they can't do their jobs properly...their politicians are all corrupt, they screw over the EU for their own gains and they make trouble for britain at every opportunity, we came to their aid plenty of times and get no thanks, they let don't secure their borders encouraging illegal immigrants to enter britain via the channel tunnel, they won't give up the CAP whose only benefit is to make rich french farmers richer and poor countries poorer, they export their poofy french mimers onto the streets of london to annoy the crap out of everyone, they have no respictible place on the international stage because they couldn't give anything to the quake in asia and when nato agree to train up the iraqi forces they committed one man who would be based in france wtf is up with that? i could go on and on......
i agree on one point: our farmers shouldn't export our good wine & cheese 'n all the good stuff to ur country this is a fucking outrage yall don't deserve that food, u even don't know appreciate it
what u know about good food anyway? lol

'n who the fuck didnt pick euro as new money for its country? lol
who the fuck is buying houses in west south france to spend vacations bcuz ur country is so cold that no trees would grow up ,lol

Of course we have a respectable place in the international scene & since many years, jealousy &envy makes u cry u english suckers we learnt that years ago.

since we know u are not a part of the real europe(geographic related pb) we built the tunnel under ''the manche'' just to satisfy u mofos.WE should have not done that & let u export ur awful pudding & atroce rock trough boats,plane still

the credibility aint to prove for us..red cross n organisations like that accross the globe rules now


I'd rather spend sum time with a japanese dude than a english motherfucker ,str8 up

All the english philosophy could be resumed as''MONEY MONEY,MONEY'' beside this ..the ''BIG BLANK'' what a good plan, wow

We don't need ur help & we intend to rule europe like we did in the past but we got to solve these immigrations problems since all those fucking politicians screwed all this up troughout the last 20 years.

when i say we i mean my government i still got faith in my government at least several heads but our prisident is :
A: too fucking old
B:he's sick
C:he aint legit, bcuz we voted for him last time due to ''LE PEN'' motherfucker who could possibly reach the presidential throne.
D: a well known motherfucker who's involved in money robbery cases(well like many politicians on this earth i believe)

he got to leave now im tired of this mofo

stupid azz,uz a clown & u know nathen >> don't even speak.

And you call Americans arrogant?
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Don Seer on November 08, 2005, 03:59:59 PM
^ so you get why we hate french people now?


btw frencht.. ruling europe like you did in the past? europe aint ever been ruled by the french.. they put the white flags up everytime war comes near.. bunch of over self-important coward nonces

old colonial ways have no place in the modern world.. france is clinging on to bygones.. and it is its undoing..
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 08, 2005, 04:03:11 PM
last time i went to france they just reaffirmed my hate, they're just a bunch of arogant grumpy mofos who can't do their jobs properly....I went into a bar asked for a larger and got bitter and they wouldn't swap it when i told the guy he got it wrong. only thing france is good for is stocking up on cheap booze from the hyper market
so u hate french people and wish death on them cause they got your drink wrong.........................
no i never said i wish death upon them, i just don't like them...... and its not just cos they got they can't do their jobs properly...their politicians are all corrupt, they screw over the EU for their own gains and they make trouble for britain at every opportunity, we came to their aid plenty of times and get no thanks, they let don't secure their borders encouraging illegal immigrants to enter britain via the channel tunnel, they won't give up the CAP whose only benefit is to make rich french farmers richer and poor countries poorer, they export their poofy french mimers onto the streets of london to annoy the crap out of everyone, they have no respictible place on the international stage because they couldn't give anything to the quake in asia and when nato agree to train up the iraqi forces they committed one man who would be based in france wtf is up with that? i could go on and on......
i agree on one point: our farmers shouldn't export our good wine & cheese 'n all the good stuff to ur country this is a fucking outrage yall don't deserve that food, u even don't know appreciate it
what u know about good food anyway? lol

'n who the fuck didnt pick euro as new money for its country? lol
who the fuck is buying houses in west south france to spend vacations bcuz ur country is so cold that no trees would grow up ,lol

Of course we have a respectable place in the international scene & since many years, jealousy &envy makes u cry u english suckers we learnt that years ago.

since we know u are not a part of the real europe(geographic related pb) we built the tunnel under ''the manche'' just to satisfy u mofos.WE should have not done that & let u export ur awful pudding & atroce rock trough boats,plane still

the credibility aint to prove for us..red cross n organisations like that accross the globe rules now


I'd rather spend sum time with a japanese dude than a english motherfucker ,str8 up

All the english philosophy could be resumed as''MONEY MONEY,MONEY'' beside this ..the ''BIG BLANK'' what a good plan, wow

We don't need ur help & we intend to rule europe like we did in the past but we got to solve these immigrations problems since all those fucking politicians screwed all this up troughout the last 20 years.

when i say we i mean my government i still got faith in my government at least several heads but our prisident is :
A: too fucking old
B:he's sick
C:he aint legit, bcuz we voted for him last time due to ''LE PEN'' motherfucker who could possibly reach the presidential throne.
D: a well known motherfucker who's involved in money robbery cases(well like many politicians on this earth i believe)

he got to leave now im tired of this mofo

stupid azz,uz a clown & u know nathen >> don't even speak.
lol what do i know about good food?, i cook everything my self i don't buy processed food and i am a good cook..... also we got voted to have 14 of the top 50 restaurants in the world as well as topping the survey http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/2090.cfm france only got 10.....

when u speak of le pen it just shows how rascist your country is, that a guy like that almost got voted in the equivilant party the BNP in this country can't even get one of the 600+ seats as an mere MP in our parliament because the public won't vote for them. our politics focuses on the centre ground...

we didn't join the euro cos we didn't wanna fuck are our economy like u did and it paid off so whats ur point??

lol at u building the the chunnel!! it was a joint venture, its just another example of french arroagance thinking u did everything for urself....

if it wasn't for us brits and americans u'd still be occupied by germany although your were a bunch of nazi collaborators anyways...how u gonna talk about ruling europe like u always did?? u only got power by sucking up to germany after ww2 in ur corrupt franco german alliance
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: mauzip on November 08, 2005, 04:20:21 PM
I didn't read further than the first Don Rizzle reply on the 2nd page, so excuse me if I repeat something.

Don Rizzle, you truly need to SHUT THE FUCK UP.

It's not about hating the French. Today I read that immigrants in Berlin started rioting too. This, my dumb friend, could happen in your country as well. What is happening right now could be the beginning of a civil war. This could be the beginning of a war in Europe.

And all you can do is complain about a French bartender??
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 08, 2005, 04:31:52 PM
if u read the rest of my replies you'll find out i don't like the french for other reasons than 1 bar tender....its not about war in europe france brought all this shit upon themselves
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: mauzip on November 08, 2005, 04:46:56 PM
if u read the rest of my replies you'll find out i don't like the french for other reasons than 1 bar tender....its not about war in europe france brought all this shit upon themselves

I won't bother to read your replies. You don't seem to understand that riots like these could happen in England as well. This problem needs to be solved and not caring about the French won't help.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 08, 2005, 04:51:35 PM
yea we could get race riots again but not on the same scale and for entirely different reasons....at the moment the asain comunity here feel the police descriminate against them which is true, however when elements in their community openly admit they won't inform the police about terrorists wtf do they expect....
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: mauzip on November 08, 2005, 04:56:04 PM
yea we could get race riots again but not on the same scale

Why not? If hell breaks loose anything can happen.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Real American on November 08, 2005, 05:24:27 PM
They have areas in France that are almost intirely immigrant.  that's not diversity.  That's "You have people living here who are nothing like you, and they're all banding together to do some bad shit".  The crime rates were horrible in these suburbs of Paris~, and recently the cops started pressuring them more trying to clean some of it up.  As a result of their immigration policies, and their failure to properly police the areas in the past, they now have people rebelling against the cops, who now all of a sudden give a damn that the crime rate is so high.  The 80% muslim population of some of these areas isn't happy with that, so they're burning down everything in sight.   

So you're right, diversity isn't the problem.  Those areas aren't diverse! They're 80% inhabited by people they let in from another country, and are now treating the French land as they treated their other country.  "Diversity" is the turned on college kid word of the moment, I guess, but just because you have immigrants doesn't mean it's adding to the "Diversity".  People would be better off to use their fucking HEAD and analyze what their eyes see, and their mind tells them, then to use little buzz words they heard their favorite democrat say on television. 



You are wrong man. The idea of large groups of different races and ethnicities living together in peace and harmony is a joke. Look around the world, wherever there are different groups in large numbers there is fighting and war....whether over race, ethnicity, culture etc. Look at what has happened with the terrorism in New York, London, Madrid, and now the riots in France. Europe is facing a civil war unless they wake up.

And another thing, I am tired of hearing about how poor and oppressed the Muslims in France are. For God's sake, France is a socialist welfare state. Those people are taken care of by the government from cradle to the grave. They aren't victims. If they were so oppressed they would probably go back to their original countries. Do you see anyone leaving? Hell, half the Arab world would cut off their right arm to get a Visa to move to France.....GUARANTEED.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: Javier on November 08, 2005, 05:27:24 PM
The idea of HUMANS living together in peace is a joke
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Fonky Fresh on November 08, 2005, 05:35:15 PM
last time i went to france they just reaffirmed my hate, they're just a bunch of arogant grumpy mofos who can't do their jobs properly....I went into a bar asked for a larger and got bitter and they wouldn't swap it when i told the guy he got it wrong. only thing france is good for is stocking up on cheap booze from the hyper market
so u hate french people and wish death on them cause they got your drink wrong.........................
no i never said i wish death upon them, i just don't like them...... and its not just cos they got they can't do their jobs properly...their politicians are all corrupt, they screw over the EU for their own gains and they make trouble for britain at every opportunity, we came to their aid plenty of times and get no thanks, they let don't secure their borders encouraging illegal immigrants to enter britain via the channel tunnel, they won't give up the CAP whose only benefit is to make rich french farmers richer and poor countries poorer, they export their poofy french mimers onto the streets of london to annoy the crap out of everyone, they have no respictible place on the international stage because they couldn't give anything to the quake in asia and when nato agree to train up the iraqi forces they committed one man who would be based in france wtf is up with that? i could go on and on......
i agree on one point: our farmers shouldn't export our good wine & cheese 'n all the good stuff to ur country this is a fucking outrage yall don't deserve that food, u even don't know appreciate it
what u know about good food anyway? lol

'n who the fuck didnt pick euro as new money for its country? lol
who the fuck is buying houses in west south france to spend vacations bcuz ur country is so cold that no trees would grow up ,lol

Of course we have a respectable place in the international scene & since many years, jealousy &envy makes u cry u english suckers we learnt that years ago.

since we know u are not a part of the real europe(geographic related pb) we built the tunnel under ''the manche'' just to satisfy u mofos.WE should have not done that & let u export ur awful pudding & atroce rock trough boats,plane still

the credibility aint to prove for us..red cross n organisations like that accross the globe rules now


I'd rather spend sum time with a japanese dude than a english motherfucker ,str8 up

All the english philosophy could be resumed as''MONEY MONEY,MONEY'' beside this ..the ''BIG BLANK'' what a good plan, wow

We don't need ur help & we intend to rule europe like we did in the past but we got to solve these immigrations problems since all those fucking politicians screwed all this up troughout the last 20 years.

when i say we i mean my government i still got faith in my government at least several heads but our prisident is :
A: too fucking old
B:he's sick
C:he aint legit, bcuz we voted for him last time due to ''LE PEN'' motherfucker who could possibly reach the presidential throne.
D: a well known motherfucker who's involved in money robbery cases(well like many politicians on this earth i believe)

he got to leave now im tired of this mofo

stupid azz,uz a clown & u know nathen >> don't even speak.

And you call Americans arrogant?
naw all wrong , we call u IGNORANTS & MONEY ppl just like english ppl thats why we like u when u come over here & that aint my opinion only it reflect the general mood i believe
eventually we call u ''FAT guys'' since majority of ur ppl aint flat really.... till the point u have to buy big cars like HUMMERS lol ...which use lot of oil and pollute air .
But we don't hate u as much as kingdom ppl thats the only notable difference maybe bcuz ure geographically far from us & that u saved the whole world back in the 40's.


let's be clear :
france has a good relationship in europe with spain,italia,portugal aka countries based on latin language and also countries like poland

france has bad relationship  in europe with united kingdom mainly aka countries based on greek language(like germany & slav countries too)


That's what the historians call ''unconscious mass past''(or whatever its called in english..) that means we hate each other but most of ppl dont know exactly why, bcuz 98% of each respective population never travelled to the other country to see whats up.Then when u learn more about the past with the books..u understand

All these problems takes their roots in historicals facts when france & UK were fighting to get overseas territories accross the world 2 centuries ago.

uk wanna run europe but it will no succeed ,thats france & germany thats it.
we even should avoid that uk intend to run it bcuz uk is a serious threat of the real european ideals: living good with good food,having cheap&good medecine,share the money with all the community

this is what the french /modern european philosophy is all about ,this is why my country shines in  europe since 1&half century AND this is why we will run it in 5 more centuries with a stron germany i hope.

And I'll tell u much more. If we hadnt those 2 fucking wars due to our ''beloved german friend'' troughout the 20th century ,we would have run europe so bad now that UK would have suck our dick
but unfortunately ...we had wars
I do not believe in a europe that could be like usa for many reasons one of em is the language.
USA is bullshit if u look deeper its just a fucking joke.Look at the criminality rates, look at the food(genetic stuff), look at the money u got to spend to be healthy,look at their ghettos,look at the credits they have per couple(4,5 big credits!) & last but not least, LOOK at the hours they spend at work just for not being broken! .....there's nothing to be proud of .being a usa citizen is a joke

we dont share the same philosophy than england (and..usa  of course since we know  usa is built on uk social/economical model)


All i can say to end is that , uk been lucky so far it won in front of us to get north america (the today usa) & it werent devastated by 2 wars so they had the time to well develop and expand their ideals across usa.

but u know our time will come sooner or later its a matter of time & our philosophy will expand to all ''real'' europeans countries >> for good


CHUUUUCH!
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Fonky Fresh on November 08, 2005, 05:50:05 PM
The idea of HUMANS living together in peace is a joke

there is no peace w/o war thats what i always thought

& secondly the ''peace time'' is shortlived,u better believe it


france&other europeans countries are falling down  while uk & usa are shining .If u really think we will afford that  ,URE WRONG
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 08, 2005, 07:06:39 PM
You are wrong man. The idea of large groups of different races and ethnicities living together in peace and harmony is a joke. Look around the world, wherever there are different groups in large numbers there is fighting and war....whether over race, ethnicity, culture etc. Look at what has happened with the terrorism in New York, London, Madrid, and now the riots in France. Europe is facing a civil war unless they wake up.

No, you're wrong. Diversity is not the reason for all of this violence and for the problems around the world. These are the reasons:

1. You and others like you are the reason there's no peace.
2. Misunderstandings that people have of eachother due to lack of education/blind ignorance
3. People unwilling to accept that their ways/beliefs/ideas are not the ONLY ways/beliefs/ideas
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: BizzyR.I.P. on November 08, 2005, 08:07:16 PM
You are wrong man. The idea of large groups of different races and ethnicities living together in peace and harmony is a joke. Look around the world, wherever there are different groups in large numbers there is fighting and war....whether over race, ethnicity, culture etc. Look at what has happened with the terrorism in New York, London, Madrid, and now the riots in France. Europe is facing a civil war unless they wake up.

No, you're wrong. Diversity is not the reason for all of this violence and for the problems around the world. These are the reasons:

1. You and others like you are the reason there's no peace.

That's pretty much all you needed to say.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Low Key on November 09, 2005, 12:11:58 AM
last time i went to france they just reaffirmed my hate, they're just a bunch of arogant grumpy mofos who can't do their jobs properly....I went into a bar asked for a larger and got bitter and they wouldn't swap it when i told the guy he got it wrong. only thing france is good for is stocking up on cheap booze from the hyper market
so u hate french people and wish death on them cause they got your drink wrong.........................
no i never said i wish death upon them, i just don't like them...... and its not just cos they got they can't do their jobs properly...their politicians are all corrupt, they screw over the EU for their own gains and they make trouble for britain at every opportunity, we came to their aid plenty of times and get no thanks, they let don't secure their borders encouraging illegal immigrants to enter britain via the channel tunnel, they won't give up the CAP whose only benefit is to make rich french farmers richer and poor countries poorer, they export their poofy french mimers onto the streets of london to annoy the crap out of everyone, they have no respictible place on the international stage because they couldn't give anything to the quake in asia and when nato agree to train up the iraqi forces they committed one man who would be based in france wtf is up with that? i could go on and on......
i agree on one point: our farmers shouldn't export our good wine & cheese 'n all the good stuff to ur country this is a fucking outrage yall don't deserve that food, u even don't know appreciate it
what u know about good food anyway? lol

'n who the fuck didnt pick euro as new money for its country? lol
who the fuck is buying houses in west south france to spend vacations bcuz ur country is so cold that no trees would grow up ,lol

Of course we have a respectable place in the international scene & since many years, jealousy &envy makes u cry u english suckers we learnt that years ago.

since we know u are not a part of the real europe(geographic related pb) we built the tunnel under ''the manche'' just to satisfy u mofos.WE should have not done that & let u export ur awful pudding & atroce rock trough boats,plane still

the credibility aint to prove for us..red cross n organisations like that accross the globe rules now


I'd rather spend sum time with a japanese dude than a english motherfucker ,str8 up

All the english philosophy could be resumed as''MONEY MONEY,MONEY'' beside this ..the ''BIG BLANK'' what a good plan, wow

We don't need ur help & we intend to rule europe like we did in the past but we got to solve these immigrations problems since all those fucking politicians screwed all this up troughout the last 20 years.

when i say we i mean my government i still got faith in my government at least several heads but our prisident is :
A: too fucking old
B:he's sick
C:he aint legit, bcuz we voted for him last time due to ''LE PEN'' motherfucker who could possibly reach the presidential throne.
D: a well known motherfucker who's involved in money robbery cases(well like many politicians on this earth i believe)

he got to leave now im tired of this mofo

stupid azz,uz a clown & u know nathen >> don't even speak.

And you call Americans arrogant?
naw all wrong , we call u IGNORANTS & MONEY ppl just like english ppl thats why we like u when u come over here & that aint my opinion only it reflect the general mood i believe
eventually we call u ''FAT guys'' since majority of ur ppl aint flat really.... till the point u have to buy big cars like HUMMERS lol ...which use lot of oil and pollute air .
But we don't hate u as much as kingdom ppl thats the only notable difference maybe bcuz ure geographically far from us & that u saved the whole world back in the 40's.


let's be clear :
france has a good relationship in europe with spain,italia,portugal aka countries based on latin language and also countries like poland

france has bad relationship  in europe with united kingdom mainly aka countries based on greek language(like germany & slav countries too)


That's what the historians call ''unconscious mass past''(or whatever its called in english..) that means we hate each other but most of ppl dont know exactly why, bcuz 98% of each respective population never travelled to the other country to see whats up.Then when u learn more about the past with the books..u understand

All these problems takes their roots in historicals facts when france & UK were fighting to get overseas territories accross the world 2 centuries ago.

uk wanna run europe but it will no succeed ,thats france & germany thats it.
we even should avoid that uk intend to run it bcuz uk is a serious threat of the real european ideals: living good with good food,having cheap&good medecine,share the money with all the community

this is what the french /modern european philosophy is all about ,this is why my country shines in  europe since 1&half century AND this is why we will run it in 5 more centuries with a stron germany i hope.

And I'll tell u much more. If we hadnt those 2 fucking wars due to our ''beloved german friend'' troughout the 20th century ,we would have run europe so bad now that UK would have suck our dick
but unfortunately ...we had wars
I do not believe in a europe that could be like usa for many reasons one of em is the language.
USA is bullshit if u look deeper its just a fucking joke.Look at the criminality rates, look at the food(genetic stuff), look at the money u got to spend to be healthy,look at their ghettos,look at the credits they have per couple(4,5 big credits!) & last but not least, LOOK at the hours they spend at work just for not being broken! .....there's nothing to be proud of .being a usa citizen is a joke

we dont share the same philosophy than england (and..usa  of course since we know  usa is built on uk social/economical model)


All i can say to end is that , uk been lucky so far it won in front of us to get north america (the today usa) & it werent devastated by 2 wars so they had the time to well develop and expand their ideals across usa.

but u know our time will come sooner or later its a matter of time & our philosophy will expand to all ''real'' europeans countries >> for good


CHUUUUCH!


So wait a second...all I said was "And you call Americans arrogant", and I get a lecture about how you despise everyone else in the world? Then one about how France will eventually run the world? You know what, I'm glad you pointed out all those problems with America. When I turn to the news and watch stories about roiting that has been going on for 13 days that might lead to civil war in France, I will think about how messed up and out of control my country is.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 09, 2005, 02:52:41 AM
last time i went to france they just reaffirmed my hate, they're just a bunch of arogant grumpy mofos who can't do their jobs properly....I went into a bar asked for a larger and got bitter and they wouldn't swap it when i told the guy he got it wrong. only thing france is good for is stocking up on cheap booze from the hyper market
so u hate french people and wish death on them cause they got your drink wrong.........................
no i never said i wish death upon them, i just don't like them...... and its not just cos they got they can't do their jobs properly...their politicians are all corrupt, they screw over the EU for their own gains and they make trouble for britain at every opportunity, we came to their aid plenty of times and get no thanks, they let don't secure their borders encouraging illegal immigrants to enter britain via the channel tunnel, they won't give up the CAP whose only benefit is to make rich french farmers richer and poor countries poorer, they export their poofy french mimers onto the streets of london to annoy the crap out of everyone, they have no respictible place on the international stage because they couldn't give anything to the quake in asia and when nato agree to train up the iraqi forces they committed one man who would be based in france wtf is up with that? i could go on and on......
i agree on one point: our farmers shouldn't export our good wine & cheese 'n all the good stuff to ur country this is a fucking outrage yall don't deserve that food, u even don't know appreciate it
what u know about good food anyway? lol

'n who the fuck didnt pick euro as new money for its country? lol
who the fuck is buying houses in west south france to spend vacations bcuz ur country is so cold that no trees would grow up ,lol

Of course we have a respectable place in the international scene & since many years, jealousy &envy makes u cry u english suckers we learnt that years ago.

since we know u are not a part of the real europe(geographic related pb) we built the tunnel under ''the manche'' just to satisfy u mofos.WE should have not done that & let u export ur awful pudding & atroce rock trough boats,plane still

the credibility aint to prove for us..red cross n organisations like that accross the globe rules now


I'd rather spend sum time with a japanese dude than a english motherfucker ,str8 up

All the english philosophy could be resumed as''MONEY MONEY,MONEY'' beside this ..the ''BIG BLANK'' what a good plan, wow

We don't need ur help & we intend to rule europe like we did in the past but we got to solve these immigrations problems since all those fucking politicians screwed all this up troughout the last 20 years.

when i say we i mean my government i still got faith in my government at least several heads but our prisident is :
A: too fucking old
B:he's sick
C:he aint legit, bcuz we voted for him last time due to ''LE PEN'' motherfucker who could possibly reach the presidential throne.
D: a well known motherfucker who's involved in money robbery cases(well like many politicians on this earth i believe)

he got to leave now im tired of this mofo

stupid azz,uz a clown & u know nathen >> don't even speak.

And you call Americans arrogant?
naw all wrong , we call u IGNORANTS & MONEY ppl just like english ppl thats why we like u when u come over here & that aint my opinion only it reflect the general mood i believe
eventually we call u ''FAT guys'' since majority of ur ppl aint flat really.... till the point u have to buy big cars like HUMMERS lol ...which use lot of oil and pollute air .
But we don't hate u as much as kingdom ppl thats the only notable difference maybe bcuz ure geographically far from us & that u saved the whole world back in the 40's.


let's be clear :
france has a good relationship in europe with spain,italia,portugal aka countries based on latin language and also countries like poland

france has bad relationship  in europe with united kingdom mainly aka countries based on greek language(like germany & slav countries too)


That's what the historians call ''unconscious mass past''(or whatever its called in english..) that means we hate each other but most of ppl dont know exactly why, bcuz 98% of each respective population never travelled to the other country to see whats up.Then when u learn more about the past with the books..u understand

All these problems takes their roots in historicals facts when france & UK were fighting to get overseas territories accross the world 2 centuries ago.

uk wanna run europe but it will no succeed ,thats france & germany thats it.
we even should avoid that uk intend to run it bcuz uk is a serious threat of the real european ideals: living good with good food,having cheap&good medecine,share the money with all the community

this is what the french /modern european philosophy is all about ,this is why my country shines in  europe since 1&half century AND this is why we will run it in 5 more centuries with a stron germany i hope.

And I'll tell u much more. If we hadnt those 2 fucking wars due to our ''beloved german friend'' troughout the 20th century ,we would have run europe so bad now that UK would have suck our dick
but unfortunately ...we had wars
I do not believe in a europe that could be like usa for many reasons one of em is the language.
USA is bullshit if u look deeper its just a fucking joke.Look at the criminality rates, look at the food(genetic stuff), look at the money u got to spend to be healthy,look at their ghettos,look at the credits they have per couple(4,5 big credits!) & last but not least, LOOK at the hours they spend at work just for not being broken! .....there's nothing to be proud of .being a usa citizen is a joke

we dont share the same philosophy than england (and..usa  of course since we know  usa is built on uk social/economical model)


All i can say to end is that , uk been lucky so far it won in front of us to get north america (the today usa) & it werent devastated by 2 wars so they had the time to well develop and expand their ideals across usa.

but u know our time will come sooner or later its a matter of time & our philosophy will expand to all ''real'' europeans countries >> for good


CHUUUUCH!

lol ur pathetic u couldn't respond to any of my points...the french ideals are crippling europe and will do even more so in the future socialism was a nice idea but who the fuck is gonna invest in europe when when u got such tight labour laws, france is living in an imaginary world sending europe down this uncompetitive root....this is globalisation we have to deal with it in a realistic way and socialism doesn't fit into that framework. i'll give u this tho u do have a better health system than we do, i don't think ours shud be free for all anymore it shud be free for those who can;t afford it it and those who can shud contribute some money, its seem like the best solution because they nhs is just a bottomless pit no matter how much we invest it brings little improvement.

and when u talk about french power on the world scale we always have and will always be more powerful than your pussy arses!! france has never had the power to run anything on their own, your a weak country full of poofs. and it wasn't about luck we had the best model which is how we were able to manage 1/4 of the globe on a small efficient administration and it was the capitalist system which enabled us to finance it all.

and when u talk about power in europe u shud have never let the eastern block in they know whats up and they won't give in to franco german bullying we got they're backs. but on the reals we should stop all this political intergration in europe and just go back to a free trade block thats all the eu is good for. EU is run by a bunch of corrupt mofos which why the auditors have refused to sign of the accounts for the last 15 years!! EU politicians are all corrupt, they'rer over paid, they don't pay tax and they have diplomatic immunity what the fuck is up with that?? all they do is pass down too much red tape which is bad for business and they rape the resources of britain.

and if we go into the past before the world wars it was the hasburgs who ran the largest chunk of mainland europe who were dominated by germany and hungary, and the to a certain extent eastern europe europe was run by the russians and the ottomans.... britain always sought a balance of power never letting one country dominate the whole continent. and when u went to war with us who the fuck won?? britain! remember reading about the the battle of trafalgar in history? britain was out numbered, we were up against france and spain and we still whooped ur arse and won, and we did the same 10 years later at waterloo....
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Fonky Fresh on November 09, 2005, 07:01:52 AM
last time i went to france they just reaffirmed my hate, they're just a bunch of arogant grumpy mofos who can't do their jobs properly....I went into a bar asked for a larger and got bitter and they wouldn't swap it when i told the guy he got it wrong. only thing france is good for is stocking up on cheap booze from the hyper market
so u hate french people and wish death on them cause they got your drink wrong.........................
no i never said i wish death upon them, i just don't like them...... and its not just cos they got they can't do their jobs properly...their politicians are all corrupt, they screw over the EU for their own gains and they make trouble for britain at every opportunity, we came to their aid plenty of times and get no thanks, they let don't secure their borders encouraging illegal immigrants to enter britain via the channel tunnel, they won't give up the CAP whose only benefit is to make rich french farmers richer and poor countries poorer, they export their poofy french mimers onto the streets of london to annoy the crap out of everyone, they have no respictible place on the international stage because they couldn't give anything to the quake in asia and when nato agree to train up the iraqi forces they committed one man who would be based in france wtf is up with that? i could go on and on......
i agree on one point: our farmers shouldn't export our good wine & cheese 'n all the good stuff to ur country this is a fucking outrage yall don't deserve that food, u even don't know appreciate it
what u know about good food anyway? lol

'n who the fuck didnt pick euro as new money for its country? lol
who the fuck is buying houses in west south france to spend vacations bcuz ur country is so cold that no trees would grow up ,lol

Of course we have a respectable place in the international scene & since many years, jealousy &envy makes u cry u english suckers we learnt that years ago.

since we know u are not a part of the real europe(geographic related pb) we built the tunnel under ''the manche'' just to satisfy u mofos.WE should have not done that & let u export ur awful pudding & atroce rock trough boats,plane still

the credibility aint to prove for us..red cross n organisations like that accross the globe rules now


I'd rather spend sum time with a japanese dude than a english motherfucker ,str8 up

All the english philosophy could be resumed as''MONEY MONEY,MONEY'' beside this ..the ''BIG BLANK'' what a good plan, wow

We don't need ur help & we intend to rule europe like we did in the past but we got to solve these immigrations problems since all those fucking politicians screwed all this up troughout the last 20 years.

when i say we i mean my government i still got faith in my government at least several heads but our prisident is :
A: too fucking old
B:he's sick
C:he aint legit, bcuz we voted for him last time due to ''LE PEN'' motherfucker who could possibly reach the presidential throne.
D: a well known motherfucker who's involved in money robbery cases(well like many politicians on this earth i believe)

he got to leave now im tired of this mofo

stupid azz,uz a clown & u know nathen >> don't even speak.

And you call Americans arrogant?
naw all wrong , we call u IGNORANTS & MONEY ppl just like english ppl thats why we like u when u come over here & that aint my opinion only it reflect the general mood i believe
eventually we call u ''FAT guys'' since majority of ur ppl aint flat really.... till the point u have to buy big cars like HUMMERS lol ...which use lot of oil and pollute air .
But we don't hate u as much as kingdom ppl thats the only notable difference maybe bcuz ure geographically far from us & that u saved the whole world back in the 40's.


let's be clear :
france has a good relationship in europe with spain,italia,portugal aka countries based on latin language and also countries like poland

france has bad relationship  in europe with united kingdom mainly aka countries based on greek language(like germany & slav countries too)


That's what the historians call ''unconscious mass past''(or whatever its called in english..) that means we hate each other but most of ppl dont know exactly why, bcuz 98% of each respective population never travelled to the other country to see whats up.Then when u learn more about the past with the books..u understand

All these problems takes their roots in historicals facts when france & UK were fighting to get overseas territories accross the world 2 centuries ago.

uk wanna run europe but it will no succeed ,thats france & germany thats it.
we even should avoid that uk intend to run it bcuz uk is a serious threat of the real european ideals: living good with good food,having cheap&good medecine,share the money with all the community

this is what the french /modern european philosophy is all about ,this is why my country shines in  europe since 1&half century AND this is why we will run it in 5 more centuries with a stron germany i hope.

And I'll tell u much more. If we hadnt those 2 fucking wars due to our ''beloved german friend'' troughout the 20th century ,we would have run europe so bad now that UK would have suck our dick
but unfortunately ...we had wars
I do not believe in a europe that could be like usa for many reasons one of em is the language.
USA is bullshit if u look deeper its just a fucking joke.Look at the criminality rates, look at the food(genetic stuff), look at the money u got to spend to be healthy,look at their ghettos,look at the credits they have per couple(4,5 big credits!) & last but not least, LOOK at the hours they spend at work just for not being broken! .....there's nothing to be proud of .being a usa citizen is a joke

we dont share the same philosophy than england (and..usa  of course since we know  usa is built on uk social/economical model)


All i can say to end is that , uk been lucky so far it won in front of us to get north america (the today usa) & it werent devastated by 2 wars so they had the time to well develop and expand their ideals across usa.

but u know our time will come sooner or later its a matter of time & our philosophy will expand to all ''real'' europeans countries >> for good


CHUUUUCH!

lol ur pathetic u couldn't respond to any of my points...the french ideals are crippling europe and will do even more so in the future socialism was a nice idea but who the fuck is gonna invest in europe when when u got such tight labour laws, france is living in an imaginary
i did not say there is NO CHANGES TO DO....

there is some re arrangement to handle asap thats it ....

nobody care 'bout english  in europe ,u a THREAT for us nathen less,nathen mo'

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and when u talk about french power on the world scale we always have and will always be more powerful than your pussy arses!! france has never had the power to run anything on their own, your a weak country full of poofs. and it wasn't about luck we had the best model which is how we were able to manage 1/4 of the globe on a small efficient administration and it was the capitalist system which enabled us to finance it all.
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lol im curious that u develop ur idea becuz i think i will laugh a lil bit
like in every country intending to keep its power ...just like usa  & uk USED TO PRACTICE IN A MAJOR WAY in the past, we protect our interests we try to  retasblish a falling  down economy....then we  will help eastern countries im sure about that

the eastern situation a too complicate anyway to be resumed as ''france dont like eastern countries'' bcuz this aint the truth we helped em in the past & we've seen how difficult it is to solve their problems


thats funny each time im tryin to discuss with an english dude he doesn't want to see the reality

u like a bastard :not european & not a state of usa....  u in the middle & u not in ANY way powerful ....usa rules & u not lol u better accept it one day man

Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: Noname on November 09, 2005, 07:01:58 AM
They have areas in France that are almost intirely immigrant.  that's not diversity.  That's "You have people living here who are nothing like you, and they're all banding together to do some bad shit".  The crime rates were horrible in these suburbs of Paris~, and recently the cops started pressuring them more trying to clean some of it up.  As a result of their immigration policies, and their failure to properly police the areas in the past, they now have people rebelling against the cops, who now all of a sudden give a damn that the crime rate is so high.  The 80% muslim population of some of these areas isn't happy with that, so they're burning down everything in sight.   

So you're right, diversity isn't the problem.  Those areas aren't diverse! They're 80% inhabited by people they let in from another country, and are now treating the French land as they treated their other country.  "Diversity" is the turned on college kid word of the moment, I guess, but just because you have immigrants doesn't mean it's adding to the "Diversity".  People would be better off to use their fucking HEAD and analyze what their eyes see, and their mind tells them, then to use little buzz words they heard their favorite democrat say on television. 



You are wrong man. The idea of large groups of different races and ethnicities living together in peace and harmony is a joke. Look around the world, wherever there are different groups in large numbers there is fighting and war....whether over race, ethnicity, culture etc. Look at what has happened with the terrorism in New York, London, Madrid, and now the riots in France. Europe is facing a civil war unless they wake up.

And another thing, I am tired of hearing about how poor and oppressed the Muslims in France are. For God's sake, France is a socialist welfare state. Those people are taken care of by the government from cradle to the grave. They aren't victims. If they were so oppressed they would probably go back to their original countries. Do you see anyone leaving? Hell, half the Arab world would cut off their right arm to get a Visa to move to France.....GUARANTEED.

Well first of all you cant judge the situation of the IMMIGRANTS (not muslims because this has nothing to do with religion, and there are not only muslims involved), because you dont know shit how they live over there.  And people like you want to create a problem, and wanna say that they are muslims. Because you want to create problems. And you to dumb to make up your own mind. You follow blindly the media and everybody else. You dont have your own opinion, you are talking like this because you are brainwashed. I know for sure if tomorrow, the government and the media would say, people with glasses are the problem of this world. You would follow instantly without thinking and preaching to everybody that people with glasses are bad.

And yes it is possible for people with different culture religion or ethnic background to live together. I give you an example. In south america there is a country called Suriname. And it was a dutch colony until about 30 years ago. The dutch people used to bring slaves over there to work for them. They brought people from India, South Africa, Java and chinese. These people still live there in suriname. And you know what the best part is, they live in peace with eachother. You got a church, a mosque and hindu tempels next to eachother. So you see you got al these different cultures, religions and people with different ethnic backgrounds all living together in peace.

So it is staight bs for you to say that its impossible. And i can give you so much more examples. Because its possible and its already happening all around the world. Because there are people like you in the arabic and western world, who dont want this to happen. And they will do everything to keep crreating these problems.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: wcsoldier on November 09, 2005, 07:33:37 AM
Don Rizzle hates so much French he can't stop talking about us . PLEASE SHUT UP
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to deat
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 09, 2005, 09:19:45 AM
dammmm, what the hell are they waiting for? get the army in here and shot at sight, that's what we did here with the mowaks back in 89
i remember that! where do you live?
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 09, 2005, 09:29:22 AM
I am personally quite disappointed that more police were not killed.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 09, 2005, 09:36:59 AM
Don Rizzle hates so much French he can't stop talking about us . PLEASE SHUT UP
sorry i guess the truth hurts
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Fonky Fresh on November 09, 2005, 09:49:59 AM
Don Rizzle hates so much French he can't stop talking about us . PLEASE SHUT UP
sorry i guess the truth hurts
yeah i guess it hurts :)
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: wcsoldier on November 09, 2005, 10:22:24 AM
Don Rizzle hates so much French he can't stop talking about us . PLEASE SHUT UP
sorry i guess the truth hurts
What truth ? The fact you don't have a social life and is on a forum talking shit 24h a day
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 09, 2005, 10:44:47 AM
no i don't have much of a social life at the moment i'm working on this bloody dissertation for uni atm which seem to consumes most of my time coming onto the forum is a nice retreat...but i'm not talking shit no ones disproved any of the points i've made
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: wcsoldier on November 09, 2005, 11:22:25 AM
no i don't have much of a social life at the moment i'm working on this bloody dissertation for uni atm which seem to consumes most of my time coming onto the forum is a nice retreat...but i'm not talking shit no ones disproved any of the points i've made
lol at u being heart and dissing me   ;D
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 09, 2005, 12:09:14 PM
i'm guessing u mean hurt? which i'm not.... and i never personally dissed you just your nation and politicians. when u start to comprehend english a bit better maybe you can properly enter the discussion.
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: wcsoldier on November 09, 2005, 12:36:42 PM
i'm guessing u mean hurt? which i'm not.... and i never personally dissed you just your nation and politicians. when u start to comprehend english a bit better maybe you can properly enter the discussion.
u are dislexic man, I meant dropping my karma  ::)
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: Don Rizzle on November 09, 2005, 12:39:28 PM
not me gov... now whose the one hurt? your the one whining about ur karma!
Title: Re: Latest from France: Policemen shot, churches burned down, man beaten to death...
Post by: wcsoldier on November 09, 2005, 12:43:01 PM
not me gov... now whose the one hurt? your the one whining about ur karma!
  ;D no I just explained something a moron who doesn't understand shit . Keep hating I'm done with it don't have time to waste in a Internet beef