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Title: What makes snoop so great
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 04, 2002, 05:26:20 PM
Why do so many of u still think he is one one tha best in tha game still an some even think he is tha G.O.A.T.  Back in tha day i could see where u are comin from b/c everything he did from 92 to early 96 was classic.  He in my opinion had tha best flow rap had ever seen than,  an no rapper has yet to touch tha flow he had than.  he sounded hungry an like he cared back than.  Now he still has good flow but not as good as it once was.  He sounds like he doesnt care,  except when he works wit dre,  an occasionally other producers bring out tha best in snoop.  But he nutin special lyrically,  he never really was,  but his flow made up for that.  To me now,  he seems like nutin special at all 2 me,  jus another rapper.  Maybe im expecting to much of him,  but when it was time for other big name rappers to prove themselves they did,  dre did it wit 2001,  nas-  stillmatic,  jay-z tha blueprint.  Another thing is tha snoop dickriders annoy me,  i dont see how u can call a rapper wit mediocre lyrical skil tha  GOAT.  Granted who u think tha goat is an opinion but im statin my opinion.  He has gotten deep on a few songs but in my opinion he has never gotten on tha level of pac did on so many tears or big on sucidle thoughts.  All has is his flow.  I personally think he lives an survives off of doggystyle.  A question for tha snoop die hards,  lets say he never dropped doggystyle.  His career consisted of everything but doggystyle,  what would his saled be like 2day an would any1 really care too much about him or have any hope for him droppin a classic.  Look at canibus,  he had a lot of hype but dropped 2 average albums an one completely shitty album,  but yet a still have a lot of hope he can drop a great album.  I dunno maybe i expect too much outta snoop,  im not askin for another doggystyle,  but an album thats in that 4.5/5 mics i think he could easily drop.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Biron on April 04, 2002, 05:34:08 PM
Wait 'til his next album drop!  ;)
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on April 04, 2002, 06:10:33 PM
Why does it matter to you? Why do you care if other people like him or not? Maybe the main reason most people isn't because of his lyrical skill. Maybe they just like him for his Style, for his funk, for his persona. Who says you gotta be deep and suicidal to be the GOAT?

I mean, I agree with you on alot of points you made.. I aint a Snoop dickrider either.. you can't take away Doggystyle from him either...that's a big what if... you can do that to any other artist who has a classic album out... what would Nas be without Illmatic? Would people consider him the GOAT by listening to Nastradamous and I Am..

If he wouldn't have dropped Doggystyle in 93.. then Doggfather would have been a classic in 96... cuz that would be his first cd and he would be just as hungry as he was before... no matter what.. he has it in him.. you even admit that...

I dont know... I say just let it go.. if you dont like him as much. dont buy his next album when it drops... and let Slikk enjoy "The Game Is To Be Sold"...  who cares?
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 04, 2002, 06:12:32 PM
You can't forget his voice either. No one can sound like Snoop but Snoop. You hear a song and when it comes time for him to spit and you hear him you say "Damn, that's Snoop Dogg".

He's not the GOAT or anything near it but he is most definitrly a West Coast icon. Even without Doggystyle he was still memorable on The Cronic.

I know what your sayin though Tom, now he's comin' pretty wack. I don't see how people can say he is the GOAT today. It just don't make sense.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: AxleF on April 04, 2002, 06:16:01 PM
Word.  Snoop is dope cuz he's natural.  If you notice, he can just bust how ever, when ever.. to who ever.. he aint scared to just freestyle.  .  Alot of rappers cant just bust.  If you need an example, check:

Snoop Dogg Feat. Xzibit - Hot 97 Funk Flex Freestyle (9.21 Long Amazing).mp3

And then,
RAW - The Indy Movie where Snoop, Daz And Kurupt bust a freestyle in the limo.  Snoop kills it.

To me, that's hip hop.  my 2 cents.  Out.

Ax
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Biron on April 04, 2002, 06:25:38 PM
If LL Cool J today claims to be the Goat..... ::)
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 04, 2002, 06:38:10 PM
tha thing im talkin bout if u take doggystyle away from snoop,  what else does he really have,  1 shitty album an 3 alright/good  albums.  If u take away illmatic from Nas,  he still has 1 great album,  IWW an one classic in my eyes stillmatic.  If u take away 36 chambers from wu they still got 2 classic solo albums liquid swords an only built for cuban linx,  an tical is a great album.  If u take away dogg food from kurupt he still has tha stuff he did on chronic an doggystyle an tha streetz.  If u take away one on quiks albums he stil has 4 hot albums,  same wit outkast.  You take away ready 2 die from big,  he still has life after death.  u take away MATW from pac he still has AEOM an makaveli.  U take away tha infamous from mobb deep they still got hell on earth.  You take away reasonable doubt from jay-z he still has tha blueprint.  U take away amerikkkaz most wanted from cube he still has lethal injection an other hot shit.  Tha pointim tryin to make,  there are a lot of rappers in which u can take away a great album from them an they still have other great stuff.  If u take away doggystyle from snoop,  in my eyes,  all u really hav that is great is tha chronic an a few other joints from his DR days but nutin else in his solo career that is mind blowin.  It doesnt have to be ground breakin an revolutionary to be mind blowin,  like tha streetz iz a mutha
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: IKON on April 04, 2002, 06:38:23 PM
I gotta say its definitely his laid back voice and the way he spits rhymes. Yeah, he was tighter with Doggystyle but this is a new and more mature Snoop.

Everyone has their own taste and if you don't like Snoop that much then thats ok. :P
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 04, 2002, 06:40:23 PM
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If LL Cool J today claims to be the Goat..... ::)


True... and Jay-Z.

Personally, Snoop has gone beyond anything else. His the only true King of Hip-Hop, as the Westcoast King. His charisamatic as fuck, and if you ever see him in concert, you KNOW THAT SNOOP IS A FUCKIN' SUPERSTAR. Kurupt, Daz, the whole Doggystyle family on stage. And Snoop is all up in the stage, the general. Snoop is the westcoast Jay-Z. The man that still can bust a good verse, and a  voice that is his own. His work hard and had a long road to get were he is, on top the westcoast again, only this time as a respected and admired OG, as oppose to the hungry young rapper that was endanger of possibly being a flash in the pan.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 04, 2002, 06:45:51 PM
i jus realized what it is i have aginst snoop,  its a NY thing.  In NY rather it be music,  sports  or whatever,  it's "what have you done for me lately".  In sports,  you had a good season last year,  good,  what r u doin this year.  Alright,  u had a great last album,  good,  hows this album goin be,  ya know what im sayin
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: King-Suge on April 04, 2002, 07:43:45 PM
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I know what your sayin though Tom, now he's comin' pretty wack. I don't see how people can say he is the GOAT today. It just don't make sense.

This is disgusting.  How can you say Snoop is coming "wack"??  "Wack" is a harsh term..you may prefer his doggystyle stuff but to call his current ish "wack" is absurd.  Aside from his Death Row days, "Top Dogg", "The Last Meal", both Eastsidaz album, and the Bones soundtrack are all hot.  Not to mention his bangers on the Wash soundtrack.  Plus Snoop is always putting out heat..check out rarer stuff like "Do U Wanna Roll" or his guest spots on the Bad Azz album?  Wack???  Get off my board you piece of shit.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: EastsideLBC on April 04, 2002, 09:55:23 PM
Snoop is just Snoop!! He might not be tha GOAT but hes in my opinoin up there wit tha other greats!! And how can u say that Snoops new ish is wack? He brings a whole new style to tha game. And how can u say Doggystyle is all Snoops got? Snoop on "The Chronic" made peeps want to be on tha lookout fo Doggystyle, in my opinoin (nothing against Dre) Snoop was tha main one that sold "The Chronic"! Peeps were sayin "Yo u check out that homie on Dre's new ish?" In my eyes Snoop cant sell without Dre, and Dre cant sell without Snoop!! I know they tried to go their seperate ways and try and do it on their own but its just not the same!!
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 05, 2002, 12:34:26 AM
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tha thing im talkin bout if u take doggystyle away from snoop,  what else does he really have,  1 shitty album an 3 alright/good  albums.  If u take away illmatic from Nas,  he still has 1 great album,  IWW an one classic in my eyes stillmatic.  If u take away 36 chambers from wu they still got 2 classic solo albums liquid swords an only built for cuban linx,  an tical is a great album.  If u take away dogg food from kurupt he still has tha stuff he did on chronic an doggystyle an tha streetz.  If u take away one on quiks albums he stil has 4 hot albums,  same wit outkast.  You take away ready 2 die from big,  he still has life after death.  u take away MATW from pac he still has AEOM an makaveli.  U take away tha infamous from mobb deep they still got hell on earth.  You take away reasonable doubt from jay-z he still has tha blueprint.  U take away amerikkkaz most wanted from cube he still has lethal injection an other hot shit.  Tha pointim tryin to make,  there are a lot of rappers in which u can take away a great album from them an they still have other great stuff.  If u take away doggystyle from snoop,  in my eyes,  all u really hav that is great is tha chronic an a few other joints from his DR days but nutin else in his solo career that is mind blowin.  It doesnt have to be ground breakin an revolutionary to be mind blowin,  like tha streetz iz a mutha


if you take away doggystyle, snoop still have doggfather .. and tha last meal was a pretty tight album too... not to mention "the chronic" (snoop had nearly 30-40% of the rhymes ... + he wrote most of dre's verses along with the doc)...

in my eyes snoop have dropped:

1 Classic:
Doggystyle (5 outta 5)

1 Almost Classic
Tha Doggfather (4.7 outta 5)

2 Dope Albums
Tha Last Meal (4.4 outta 5
No Limit Top Dogg (4.1 outta 5)

1 Avreage Album
Da Game is to be Sold Not Told (3.0 outta 5)


pretty decent if you ask me
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: serv-on on April 05, 2002, 12:59:55 AM
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tha thing im talkin bout if u take doggystyle away from snoop,  what else does he really have,  1 shitty album an 3 alright/good  albums.  If u take away illmatic from Nas,  he still has 1 great album,  IWW an one classic in my eyes stillmatic.  If u take away 36 chambers from wu they still got 2 classic solo albums liquid swords an only built for cuban linx,  an tical is a great album.  If u take away dogg food from kurupt he still has tha stuff he did on chronic an doggystyle an tha streetz.  If u take away one on quiks albums he stil has 4 hot albums,  same wit outkast.  You take away ready 2 die from big,  he still has life after death.  u take away MATW from pac he still has AEOM an makaveli.  U take away tha infamous from mobb deep they still got hell on earth.  You take away reasonable doubt from jay-z he still has tha blueprint.  U take away amerikkkaz most wanted from cube he still has lethal injection an other hot shit.  Tha pointim tryin to make,  there are a lot of rappers in which u can take away a great album from them an they still have other great stuff.  If u take away doggystyle from snoop,  in my eyes,  all u really hav that is great is tha chronic an a few other joints from his DR days but nutin else in his solo career that is mind blowin.  It doesnt have to be ground breakin an revolutionary to be mind blowin,  like tha streetz iz a mutha


I dunno wtf you talkin about but it seems like you are a hater! And if you prefer NAS over snoop then you can suck a fat dick, BIIIAAATCH.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Youngster323 on April 05, 2002, 03:15:23 AM
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I dunno wtf you talkin about but it seems like you are a hater! And if you prefer NAS over snoop then you can suck a fat dick, BIIIAAATCH.




LOL where in his post did he say "I prefer Nas over snoop" Read it right. He was givin examples if u take this album away u would have this, and so on. and to King Suge, did u just call Snoop's death row days wack?
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Nosak on April 05, 2002, 03:43:10 AM
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Why does it matter to you? Why do you care if other people like him or not?

yeah, stop complaining like a bitch, kool u don't like snoop we already know but shut up , i'm tired of u talkin shit about people loving snoop and shits , dawm man
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Big BpG on April 05, 2002, 03:43:10 AM
You all know I'm a huge Snoop fan, and I mean huge!

But I've never claimed him as the G.O.A.T, but Snoop has something no other rapper has. He has Style, originality, he's not the usual, and I'll tell you this, Snoop is not whack, with all my so called "bias" opinions, there is no way he is whack. Another thing... people dont see the improvements that he has overcome in his lyrics during his career. I had a whole post about it a few months back and he is coming more real now then he ever was. He is dropping information to us, but no one listens... they just wanna here him drop another doggystyle... which won't happen. He has had 4 albums since then and not one  has been of its style. He is also probably the best freestyler in the game... as a rappper, not a lyricist, but as a rapper. Like ax said, he completely ripped it on Daz's DVD... simply ripped the mic...  now its all opinion on who you like and don't.... i dont like Jay-Z, but people claim him the GOAT... so claim it... i'll watch his time too... I just don't feel him. It's all love, its all music. It's all good from here...

-Big BpG
Title: ;DRe: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Nosak on April 05, 2002, 03:45:15 AM
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...and let Slikk enjoy "The Game Is To Be Sold"...  who cares?

lol aight u got me there  ;D
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Hatesrats™ on April 05, 2002, 03:45:56 AM

Yeah out here in the west we have a loyalty thing.
In our eyes the artists can never do any wrong, and even if their album is "Wack" (quote) we still buy it...lol

We ain't as critical and analyse the rapper's as tightly as they do out in the East.
Out East if your album ain't tight as fuck they'll let you know about it.
The critics out East are quick to bash ya flow and content on the drop of a dime....(I feel sorry for Nas & Jigga on their next lp drop, the falloff is going to be a critics wet dream)

My point is We listen to music for different reasons out here in the west, and most of the time Quote Pac "High & Drunk when we listen to it" & A bitch is mostly always involved.
In the car bumpin'.....And NObody bump's like the west as far as just Bumpin'....i'm not talkin' lyrical or hardcore...just hump's.
And Snoop Dogg personafies the West coast with his sound.
The funk, we out here in Cali love anything that has party vibes.

Plus we just can't get enough of Snoop
Hatesrats 2oo2
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Nosak on April 05, 2002, 03:50:11 AM
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Wack???  Get off my board you piece of shit.

ah ah , who r u to claim that this board is yours , lil punk
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Nosak on April 05, 2002, 03:54:06 AM
most people on the board can agree that snoop  bring lot of good shit in rap games and if it wasn't bout him and the west, i wouldn't listen to rapper commercial bullshit anymore , ya feel me , he got his proper style , can't nobody rhyme like snoop and ya'll know that
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 05, 2002, 04:00:49 AM
i dont have nuttin to add... IMO M Dogg, BPG, Ax, LBCSnoop213, Criminal, Ax, I-Bo and every1 are on point...
snoop is juss snoop
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 05, 2002, 05:02:24 AM
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if you take away doggystyle, snoop still have doggfather .. and tha last meal was a pretty tight album too... not to mention "the chronic" (snoop had nearly 30-40% of the rhymes ... + he wrote most of dre's verses along with the doc)...

in my eyes snoop have dropped:

1 Classic:
Doggystyle (5 outta 5)

1 Almost Classic
Tha Doggfather (4.7 outta 5)




pretty decent if you ask me


im pretty sure i said he woul still have tha chronic,  an doggfather near classic,  r u serious,  it's an alright album,  but near classic ???,  in my eyes tha last meal an top dogg were alright albums but nothing spectacualr.  I know he aint goin drop another doggystyle,  but whats prevents snopp from droping an album in which majority thinks its a great album.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: PLANT on April 05, 2002, 05:10:16 AM
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i dont have nuttin to add... IMO M Dogg, BPG, Ax, LBCSnoop213, Criminal, Ax, I-Bo and every1 are on point...
snoop is juss snoop

;D
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 05, 2002, 05:11:28 AM
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I dunno wtf you talkin about but it seems like you are a hater! And if you prefer NAS over snoop then you can suck a fat dick, BIIIAAATCH.

u know what u snoop dickrider,   yea i think nas is better than snoop.  In tha beging of there careers,  they were both in tha top 5 in tha game but snoop was ahead,  but over there whole career nas has been better, i'll break it down for u
snoop-  1 classic,  3 alrighth albums,  1 shitty album
nas-  1 classic,  1 debatable classic,  1 hot album,  2 shitty albums.

Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Youngster323 on April 05, 2002, 05:14:40 AM
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u know what u snoop dickrider,   yea i think nas is better than snoop.  In tha beging of there careers,  they were both in tha top 5 in tha game but snoop was ahead,  but over there whole career nas has been better, i'll break it down for u
snoop-  1 classic,  3 alrighth albums,  1 shitty album
nas-  1 classic,  1 debatable classic,  1 hot album,  2 shitty albums.




i agree with that ^^^
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: HHH on April 05, 2002, 05:32:18 AM
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You can't forget his voice either. No one can sound like Snoop but Snoop. You hear a song and when it comes time for him to spit and you hear him you say "Damn, that's Snoop Dogg"


HE'S GREAT ALL OVER !!  ;D
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: serv-on on April 05, 2002, 06:36:47 AM
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u know what u snoop dickrider,   yea i think nas is better than snoop.  In tha beging of there careers,  they were both in tha top 5 in tha game but snoop was ahead,  but over there whole career nas has been better, i'll break it down for u
snoop-  1 classic,  3 alrighth albums,  1 shitty album
nas-  1 classic,  1 debatable classic,  1 hot album,  2 shitty albums.



Let me break it down for you, nas dickrider, the shit you are saying is your opinion. Everyone has an opinion, so it's not like what you are saying is a fact, it's an opinion.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Nosak on April 05, 2002, 06:48:06 AM
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u know what u snoop dickrider,   yea i think nas is better than snoop.  In tha beging of there careers,  they were both in tha top 5 in tha game but snoop was ahead,  but over there whole career nas has been better, i'll break it down for u
snoop-  1 classic,  3 alrighth albums,  1 shitty album
nas-  1 classic,  1 debatable classic,  1 hot album,  2 shitty albums.


dat don't mean shit album wise,

snoop and nas pass trought several big dramam, but snoop pass in some biggger and deeper ones , so i don't judge an artist only by his albums but overall
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 05, 2002, 07:31:56 AM
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Let me break it down for you, nas dickrider, the shit you are saying is your opinion. Everyone has an opinion, so it's not like what you are saying is a fact, it's an opinion.

how am i a nas dickrider when i admit nastradaumaus an i am suck,  i know people that think those r hot albms,  thats a dick rider
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Big BpG on April 05, 2002, 07:38:42 AM
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how am i a nas dickrider when i admit nastradaumaus an i am suck,  i know people that think those r hot albms,  thats a dick rider


I AM is a hot album, it put NAS back on the map... thats how I got into NAS... he's one of my favorite rappers, but I'll tell you this... I'll take I AM to Stillmatic anyday...

am I a dickrider?

-Big BpG
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 05, 2002, 07:40:04 AM
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dat don't mean shit album wise,

snoop and nas pass trought several big dramam, but snoop pass in some biggger and deeper ones , so i don't judge an artist only by his albums but overall

if we judge a rapper by all tha drama that they had in there lives than i guess that makes tray dee better than snoop,  b/c tray dee makes tight music,  an plus hes been locked up an shot,  he is a OG,  he has been through more drama.  So that makes tray better than snoop.  Vaniila Ice,  u wanna talk about drama,   he tried committing suicide i think twice,  suge threathened his life held him over a balcony,  now thats drama,  vanilla ice is tha GOAT than.  Come on,  thats a bull shit excuse slickk.  If anything,  tha more drama in his life,  he should be rapping about that instead of smokin weed,  why doesnt he speak more on his life,  he did in still a g thang an thats one of my favorite snoop songs.  If we judge a rapper by drama in there life there are rappers that faced a lot more drama in there lives than snoop like cormega
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Big BpG on April 05, 2002, 08:04:46 AM
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if we judge a rapper by all tha drama that they had in there lives than i guess that makes tray dee better than snoop,  b/c tray dee makes tight music,  an plus hes been locked up an shot,  he is a OG,  he has been through more drama.  So that makes tray better than snoop.  Vaniila Ice,  u wanna talk about drama,   he tried committing suicide i think twice,  suge threathened his life held him over a balcony,  now thats drama,  vanilla ice is tha GOAT than.  Come on,  thats a bull shit excuse slickk.  If anything,  tha more drama in his life,  he should be rapping about that instead of smokin weed,  why doesnt he speak more on his life,  he did in still a g thang an thats one of my favorite snoop songs.  If we judge a rapper by drama in there life there are rappers that faced a lot more drama in there lives than snoop like cormega


Think about it like this... when snoop started, he came from the streets... then he got money... bought a big house, not in the streets, didn't have time to bang... and went through a murder trial... he's learned a lot, his life is totally differen't than when he started, he isn't on the streets now, if you want him to rap about his life... then he is going to rap about, the weed, the money, and tha hoes, not about the fool he shot in the hood... snoop already served his time in jail... and he's learned from his mistake...

-Big BpG
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 05, 2002, 08:15:25 AM
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Think about it like this... when snoop started, he came from the streets... then he got money... bought a big house, not in the streets, didn't have time to bang... and went through a murder trial... he's learned a lot, his life is totally differen't than when he started, he isn't on the streets now, if you want him to rap about his life... then he is going to rap about, the weed, the money, and tha hoes, not about the fool he shot in the hood... snoop already served his time in jail... and he's learned from his mistake...

-Big BpG

if snoop aint in tha streets anymore,  than why is he claiming crip harder than he ever has.  An what u listed in what he is rapping about now,  its that shit that is killin rap.  Why dont he rap more about growing up,  rap more about his trials an tribulations,  he does occasionally but still a lot of what he raps about is hoes money an weed,  not very creative if u ask me
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Big BpG on April 05, 2002, 08:20:20 AM
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if snoop aint in tha streets anymore,  than why is he claiming crip harder than he ever has.  An what u listed in what he is rapping about now,  its that shit that is killin rap.  Why dont he rap more about growing up,  rap more about his trials an tribulations,  he does occasionally but still a lot of what he raps about is hoes money an weed,  not very creative if u ask me


i aint beefin dogg, but check this... grab tha last meal... pop it in your player... start on track 1 and listen through the whole album and just listen... word for word... tell me what he's rapping about, it aint bullshit... its real... shit i can relate to... doggy dogg brotha

-Big BpG
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: techniec on April 05, 2002, 08:52:27 AM
im actually feelin what tom is sayin

i love doggystyle and snoop has dropped heaters,

but his laziness, his inconsistency and his lack of hunger and direction at times, it irritates me

last meal was dope, but i want snoop to drop an album that'll like...FUCKIN FUCK THE WORLD UP, let em know why snoop is an icon and one of the biggest rappers in the world,

im still waiting for an album like that,  i doubt well get that from his Priority release, i think hes gonna rush thru that


my 0.2 cents..........
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: maddskilzz9 on April 05, 2002, 10:06:48 AM
Snoop has got skilzz

i mean, he can rap and also SING

his voice is sooo unique and was one those that brought the Gangsta style into hip hop
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: DPGC2001 on April 05, 2002, 10:19:36 AM
Snoop may not be the best lyricist but he makes great music...Both Last Meal and Top Dogg are underrated albums...If Snoop was from NY all the east coast heads would be on his dick like Jay-z or Nas...IMO opinion Snoop is right up there with those rappers in terms of overall ability...
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on April 05, 2002, 10:31:09 AM
Snoop life in the music industry is like an episode cause every album gotta a meaning , Doggystyle was an angry album where Snoop show that he is a dangerous mc, Tha Doggfather was an album that show Snoop Funky side, Da Game album was to show people that he can still be tight with the dirty south sound ,Top Dogg was his return 2 tha west , And Last Meal was a Fucc tha haters album.So Tru fans that support Snoop since Deep Cover still lovin him no matter what happened and Cant wait to see the next episode wich is his return on the Top as the Boss

and one of the reason that make him so great his that every hook and every verse that he comes with alwayz get stock in Yo head
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Nosak on April 05, 2002, 10:51:23 AM
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if we judge a rapper by all tha drama that they had in there lives than i guess that makes tray dee better than snoop,  b/c tray dee makes tight music,  an plus hes been locked up an shot,  he is a OG,  he has been through more drama.  So that makes tray better than snoop.  Vaniila Ice,  u wanna talk about drama,   he tried committing suicide i think twice,  suge threathened his life held him over a balcony,  now thats drama,  vanilla ice is tha GOAT than.  Come on,  thats a bull shit excuse slickk.  If anything,  tha more drama in his life,  he should be rapping about that instead of smokin weed,  why doesnt he speak more on his life,  he did in still a g thang an thats one of my favorite snoop songs.  If we judge a rapper by drama in there life there are rappers that faced a lot more drama in there lives than snoop like cormega
don't try to play the smart ass with me buddy , u know exactly what i mean , and i was talkin about nas and snoop so where do u came from with tray and vanilla shits , anyways, don't get it twisted homeboy, they both in my TOP 3 , so once again don't bullshit with me
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Nosak on April 05, 2002, 10:57:10 AM
well, ya  like to do comparaison right, well u don't like snoop still but nas one but why bitchin about it, u don't like it say it and it's over , why u got to drops thousand and thousand of posts about it,

like your vanilla ice shit , check let's make it like this

vanilla ice = nas

mc hammer = snoop

 so u like vanilla ice , but that don't makes mc hammer a shitty rapper neither, it's just not your style so switch to nas , stick with him and leave the world in peace ...
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: maddskilzz9 on April 05, 2002, 11:04:42 AM
Also, the Girls on snoops hook make kick ass hooks
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Nosak on April 05, 2002, 02:53:56 PM
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Also, the Girls on snoops hook make kick ass hooks

true, nobody never talk about featuring, and i think that shit suck, ja rule is doin well on his side, look where ashanti is now ( dawmm)
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 05, 2002, 04:18:45 PM
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don't try to play the smart ass with me buddy , u know exactly what i mean , and i was talkin about nas and snoop so where do u came from with tray and vanilla shits , anyways, don't get it twisted homeboy, they both in my TOP 3 , so once again don't bullshit with me

no, u were sayin that we should give snoop tha advantage over nas b/c of tha drama in his life
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 05, 2002, 04:18:56 PM
Snoop and Nas are like comparing the taste of steak to chocolate. Both are good, but different, and not far. I personally will buy a Snoop album, but that's my coastal biased. un-biasely, I think Nas is a better rapper. But album wise, lets see the tale of the tape.

Snoop Dogg:
Doggystyle - 5
Doggfather - 3
Game Is To Be Sold - 2
Top Dogg - 4
Last Meal - 4

Nas
Illmatic - 5
It Was Written - 4
I Am - 3.5
Nastradumas - 2
Stillmatic - 4.5

Acourding to my scale, 19-18 in favor of Nas, so barely Nas. But hey, in some opinions, Snoop. What ever floats your boat.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Nosak on April 05, 2002, 04:25:40 PM
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no, u were sayin that we should give snoop tha advantage over nas b/c of tha drama in his life

no i never said this , i said that snoop has pass trough more deeper shit than nas, and that affect his music maybe for the worst or for the bad but it change it, and most peopl can't accept his new style ,
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: infinite59 on April 05, 2002, 05:21:21 PM
For me... I've watched Snoop's carear from it's birth, right when he came out, was the exact moment I starting getting into hip-hop, I have my own little connection to his music... and it's ill for me to just sit back and watch him grow as an artist and a person throughout his carear.  He's got his own voice, style, and way of living.  Basically, he still just considers himself a homie from the LBC, no different then any of the cats he came up with.  His music is real down to earth.   Snoop will always be one of my favorite artists.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: serv-on on April 05, 2002, 06:52:07 PM
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how am i a nas dickrider when i admit nastradaumaus an i am suck,  i know people that think those r hot albms,  thats a dick rider


So when people find those albums good they are dickriders? Man u are totally confused. This is once again YOUR OPNINION. Maybe someone else find these two albums great. And just because of that you say they are dickriders? Get ya mind right homie.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 05, 2002, 07:19:41 PM
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This is disgusting.  How can you say Snoop is coming "wack"??  "Wack" is a harsh term..you may prefer his doggystyle stuff but to call his current ish "wack" is absurd.  Aside from his Death Row days, "Top Dogg", "The Last Meal", both Eastsidaz album, and the Bones soundtrack are all hot.  Not to mention his bangers on the Wash soundtrack.  Plus Snoop is always putting out heat..check out rarer stuff like "Do U Wanna Roll" or his guest spots on the Bad Azz album?  Wack???  Get off my board you piece of shit.


Hahahahaha......If you think Snoop is putting out nothing but "heat" as of late, good for you. It just shows how low your standards are.


Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Trauma-san on April 05, 2002, 07:25:29 PM
Deal with snoop is this: Everybody fell in love with him, they feel like they're family with him, since they saw his murder trial on t.v. , seen his problems with deathrow, all that jazz.  They saw him and his homie dre get back together, it's all drama, they know about his cousin daz and all that mess, they know about his childhood friends nate and warren G, everybody just feels close to him personally, he came personal like NO other rapper ever even came close to, so peeps respect and appreciate everything he does cuz they feel like he's ona the homies.

Peace~
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: PLANT on April 06, 2002, 03:12:06 AM
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Deal with snoop is this: Everybody fell in love with him, they feel like they're family with him, since they saw his murder trial on t.v. , seen his problems with deathrow, all that jazz.  They saw him and his homie dre get back together, it's all drama, they know about his cousin daz and all that mess, they know about his childhood friends nate and warren G, everybody just feels close to him personally, he came personal like NO other rapper ever even came close to, so peeps respect and appreciate everything he does cuz they feel like he's ona the homies.

Peace~

;D
doggystyle...5/5
doggfather...4/5
da game...3/5
top dogg...4/5
last meal...4.5/5

snoop gets 20.5/25 on the scale so he is definatly holdin it down...dont hate on "MR G THING"...and whoever said he was whack before needs to check themselves...snoop brings me a dope album everytime he drops....what more can you ask for?

just my 2 cents
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Nosak on April 06, 2002, 11:31:57 AM
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....what more can you ask for?


that the nigga hurry just a little bit :D
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Don Seer on April 06, 2002, 11:36:33 AM
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Deal with snoop is this: Everybody fell in love with him, they feel like they're family with him, since they saw his murder trial on t.v. , seen his problems with deathrow, all that jazz.  They saw him and his homie dre get back together, it's all drama, they know about his cousin daz and all that mess, they know about his childhood friends nate and warren G, everybody just feels close to him personally, he came personal like NO other rapper ever even came close to, so peeps respect and appreciate everything he does cuz they feel like he's ona the homies.

Peace~


^--- on point

i never really thought it that way before, but it makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Sub-Z on April 06, 2002, 05:35:37 PM
snoop sucks ,thats my contribution to this thread
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: BL7 on April 06, 2002, 06:00:17 PM
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snoop sucks ,thats my contribution to this thread




That's nice, lol.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 06, 2002, 06:47:20 PM
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snoop sucks ,thats my contribution to this thread

atleast some1 is on my side
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: topdogg187 on April 07, 2002, 12:30:12 AM
Bigg Snoop Dogg is the best, that's my contribution to this thread.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: bez on April 07, 2002, 08:30:10 AM
snoops class
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: West Coast Veteran on April 07, 2002, 08:45:07 AM
Snoop's voice, flow and charisma always made him one of my favorite rappers. Shares the top spot with three other rappers.
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 07, 2002, 09:22:46 AM
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atleast some1 is on my side


so u mean that snoop sucks?
Title: Re: What makes snoop so great
Post by: HBKid_Jr on April 07, 2002, 10:15:03 AM
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so u mean that snoop sucks?

no,  it jus that some1 else on tha board doesnt think snoop is god like