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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Mo Z. Dizzle on December 03, 2005, 04:56:35 PM
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Credit: 1Wrestling
Former WWE Superstar Diamond Dallas Page recently filed a federal lawsuit against rapper Jay-Z for trademark infringement. The "Diamond Cutter" hand symbol has been being used by Jay-Z on some of his products some including CD covers entitled "The Dynasty: Rock La Familia 2000" and "Jay-Z Fade To Black" DVD, which was released this past April.
When Dallas Page was in WCW back in 1996, its when he was first using the hand signal. Since that time he has been using it professionally for his wrestling and entertainment ventures. On the cover of Page's new book, "Yoga For Regular Guys" it also features the symbol. The hand symbol is kind of like a logo to him, hence the lawsuit.
http://nodq.com/wwe/135652687.shtml
i dont think he really has much of a case unless he copyrighted that...im not even sure if hez allowed to copyright it or anything, gotta look over my law notez lol.
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DDP must really need money. It didn't bother him for the past 5 years that Jigga was using it. Case will be dismissed based on bullshit accusations.
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DDP must really need money. It didn't bother him for the past 5 years that Jigga was using it. Case will be dismissed based on bullshit accusations.
I can't imagine him needing money, unless he really blew it all (like Flair did). WCW workers really made a boat load, particularly main eventers, and I've always heard that Page was good with money and shit, bit who knows.
As for him winning; stranger things have happened. He could have a case if he shows it hurts his sales or gives him a bad image. Even if it wasn't copywritten you can still prove it belongs to you. Honky Tonk Man the name was owned by Vince and Wayne Ferris fought on the claim that he invented the character and used it before the WWF when he wrestled as Honk Tonk Wayne Ferris, and he won despite the fact that Vince had a legal copywright.
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DDP is a fucking twerp. Does he honestly think, that he's the first human being with two hands that ever held them together like that? WHAT IN THE FUCK is this guy thinking?
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000050HS9.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
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I know the guy has supposedly divorced his wife, not sure if they followed through or not. plus, hospital bills for his back. He could very well be in the same position as Flair. This lawsuit makes no sense unless he needs to make bank. It's not like Jay-Z is unknown and he just discovered him recently.
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It's not like Jay-Z is unknown and he just discovered him recently.
yeah, he's probablky been saving the law-suit for a rainy day...
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(http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/d/ddp/08.jpg) (http://www.tubafrenzy.org/weblog/archives/JayZRocLaFamilia-thumb.jpg)
???
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The dudes from Nirvana should sure DDP for using "Smells Like Teen Spirit" as his entrance theme.
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^^ You just hit the nail on the head, homie. I was thinking the same thing. As far as this lawsuit goes, I predict it'll be thrown out too. DDP's had a while to go ahead and do it, i any case it looks like he needs $$$.
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I'm pretty sure WCW has to pay to use the theme, just like they did for Raven's, and Hollywood Hogan's.
Maybe he doesn't even want money, but rather he wants Jay to stop using the sign in items, ads, and promotions. Like when the WWF (World Wildlife Fund) sued Vince and Vince had to change to WWE.
I bet if you find a history of stupid copyrights and tramemarks lawsuits you'd see some silly things come about. Didn't Spike TV and Spike Lee steele out of court for that lawsuit (I'm not sure).
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In WCW Chris Jericho's theme song was a pearl jam song, too. Jericho, Raven, DDP, and the NWO all had jacked songs, that had been reworked and interpolated so they wouldn't have to pay as much for royalties. If you play the actual song, you have to pay the songwriter, and the performer... the performer can demand whatever they want. There's union rules and a pay scale set up for songwriters, though, so if you re-record a song, you can pay the songwriter a predetermined reasonable amount (it's the same price for every song ever written)... so that's why they redid those 4. The nWo theme song was a pastiche of about 3 Jimi Hendrix songs, the riff is from "Highway Child".
Hogan actually had the original Jimi Hendrix version of Voodoo Chile played when he came out, so they had to pay more cash since the songwriter and the performer (performer's family!) had to be paid... they worked out a deal with Hendrix's estate.
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then he the Diamond ST X3 Gang cuz thats how they throw it up
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The dudes from Nirvana should sue DDP for using "Smells Like Teen Spirit" as his entrance theme.
:laugh:
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if ddp end up winnin his lawsuit... the women of the delta sigma theta sorority...needs 2 sue the shit out of both ...kuz those girls been throwin the diamond up since 1913 up at howard university back in d.c.
(http://www.olemiss.edu/orgs/dst/IM000222.JPG)
(http://www.olemiss.edu/orgs/dst/IM000225.JPG)
n they throw it up way more playa than these 2 clowns..
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Now Page's case isn't so strong (like it ever really was). He could argue that his is different because it's both his own arms, something I wouldn't buy as a judge, but some judges are nuts.
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i think Escobar has something 2 say about who originated the diamond. Jay-Z can tell everybody he got the shit from Nas lol cuz he did
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c28/d4nt3_s0_fresh/esco.jpg)
:psych: :argue:
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i think Escobar has something 2 say about who originated the diamond. Jay-Z can tell everybody he got the shit from Nas lol cuz he did
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c28/d4nt3_s0_fresh/esco.jpg)
:psych: :argue:
Good looking.fuck page!hiphop trick.
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Does he honestly think, that he's the first human being with two hands that ever held them together like that? WHAT IN THE FUCK is this guy thinking?
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Well damn the sorority just killed the case.
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Well damn the sorority just killed the case.
No, the case was already rediculous. The sorority didn't invent it either. People have been on the earth forever, he'd have to prove that he was the first person to ever do that shit. It's an incredibly stupid case that should get laughed out of court.
I've been flipping people the bird for years now. Everybody knows I'm an asshole, so the bird is my symbol. I'm going to sue you because I saw you flip somebody the bird.
come on.
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Well damn the sorority just killed the case.
No, the case was already rediculous. The sorority didn't invent it either. People have been on the earth forever, he'd have to prove that he was the first person to ever do that shit. It's an incredibly stupid case that should get laughed out of court.
I've been flipping people the bird for years now. Everybody knows I'm an asshole, so the bird is my symbol. I'm going to sue you because I saw you flip somebody the bird.
come on.
But copywright cases never make sense. Vince McMahonowns the Dudley Boys character even though they had the gimmick before coming to the WWE. As a result they are not allowed to wear army fatigues, like no one has even worn those before. Copywright laws come don to the lawyers and how the judge feels at the time. If DDP can prove he was the first person to sell that symbol in entertainment then he could theoretically win if the jugde decides to go with him.
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Well damn the sorority just killed the case.
Although I agree that this case is stupid, the sorority doesn't really prove anything. The sorority is Delta Sigma Theta and they're all throwing up the Delta sign (a triangle). Mo Thugs (Bone Thugs affiliates) have been known to throw up this triangular sign too... one of their symbols is that pyramid thing. Diamond Dallas Page and Jay-Z are throwing up diamond signs. Notice how their thumbs don't make a flat line like the sorority sisters do.
Anyways, this is stupid and I'd bed anything DDP loses. Jay-Z is way more powerful anyways.
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Well damn the sorority just killed the case.
yup, but the whole case was bullshit anyway. he was neva gon win!
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Well damn the sorority just killed the case.
No, the case was already rediculous. The sorority didn't invent it either. People have been on the earth forever, he'd have to prove that he was the first person to ever do that shit. It's an incredibly stupid case that should get laughed out of court.
(I've been flipping people the bird for years now. Everybody knows I'm an asshole,)
got me rolling.
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Well damn the sorority just killed the case.
yup, but the whole case was bullshit anyway. he was neva gon win!
shut your sensative ass up.fag-10....you dont know what your saying,just talking bullshit.....go to your room, clown.
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lol thats terrible suing someone for using a hand gesture ::)
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Thats funny, but naw he aint gonna when that lawsuit. Delta sigma theta sorority, 1 of the biggest black sororities in the US, founded in 1913, have used the same hand sign for years. Recall the line from Kanye's thru the wires: "She a Delta, so she been throwin that +Dynasty+ sign".
I believe hand images, depending on thier meanings, can be a form of infringement. So the wrestler can just as easily be sued from the sorority and whoever else who may have been using it before them
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^^not if they didnt trademark it first.
DDP is paid, too. and hes a 50 yr old white man so he may not have heard of jayz until recently
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Well damn the sorority just killed the case.
yup, but the whole case was bullshit anyway. he was neva gon win!
shut your sensative ass up.fag-10....you dont know what your saying,just talking bullshit.....go to your room, clown.
why is it every time i go into a thread i've already posted in - i see a reply by you acting like a faggot?
is it bcoz maybe you are a faggot? if so - then fuck off faggot.