let's not forget the GOAT, chick hearn


jeff van gundy and mark jackson were a great duo in this era, but unfortunately got fired a couple years back


kevin harlan is the best nowadays

Kevin Harlan is a KC guy — he used to be “the voice of the Chiefs” in the late 80’s and early 90’s when I first started watching NFL — so he still comes and does segments on our local radio weekly.  He had a big catchphrase that we used to say on playgrounds across the Midwest…

“Ohhh baby what a play !!”

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This info must be dated. I'm listening to Dogg House Soul Food as we speak.

The reality is that the longer people hold onto this material, the smaller the market gets for people that actually want to listen to and enjoy it.

The real collectors don't buy one song and sit on it. They buy one song, then another, and they keep buying more and more stuff. They trade some stuff with other collectors that sit on items they would never sell or trade. You end up with a few massive collectors that have huge storages of stuff, old DAT tapes and reels. Their dwindling worth is not an argument to give them away for free when you've spent literally tens of thousands on all of it.

And yes, there are tons of collectors out there still. Both of unleaked/rare material, and just fans collecting retail releases. There is a 2Pac cassette collector instagram where a guy is posting pictures of new tapes he's buying. This old argument that the fan scene is dead doesn't hold up. The internet has made it to where you now have 18 year olds getting into online fan scenes. Look at how many Beatles collectors still sell shit for $100,000 plus.

These are not guesses, they are observations. I am personally heavily invested in the 2Pac/Death Row/90s west coast world and have been for 20 years now. Forums are dead, but there are discord channels and reddit threads that have filled the void, that are booming. Try to look up some 2Pac, Death Row, DPG subreddits on reddit and see the amount of members and new posts per day.

One day we'll be at the point where all of this is just suddenly worthless and no one cares about it, but it'll be long after you and I are both dead. For now, it's mostly unwise to buy unleaked master recordings for tens of thousands and giving them away for free.

Exactly.  How much is anyone gonna pay for a 20 year old 6Pac song, or a 20 year old La Prada song.  Who are these fools?  What notoriety do they have other than they were supposedly signed to Death Row for a month.  I got a couple pennies in my ashtray to throw your way, that's about it. 

Not sure exactly who you're referring to, but I can agree somewhat on less important songs/artists. Take a song like Crooked I's "Crook In Me". Not a very well known song or artist in the grand scheme of things, but I would pay serious dollar for that song (or his whole DPG Recordz album). I wouldn't pay a cent for any Tha Realest or Petey Pablo. But then there are others that would. Just for the sake of argument, if I bought an in-studio CD-r, mastering disc or DAT tape for some unreleased 2Pac/Snoop Dogg/Dr. Dre and it had like one song on it with Lil 1/2 Dead, I might just post that one song for people and keep the good stuff for myself. But if I was selling that CD-r/DAT/whatever and the seller was wondering if it was available out there, and I told him "no, everything is unleaked except the final track which I gave out publicly" will they offer less money for it? There are all these concerns you gotta factor in that has nothing to do with whether there are still fans out there or not. I don't see anybody here spending their money on the rest of us so I mean, I'm not sure why that's a default expectation. I think people refuse to really understand and internalize how a collector thinks.

The reality is that the longer people hold onto this material, the smaller the market gets for people that actually want to listen to and enjoy it.

Exactly.  How much is anyone gonna pay for a 20 year old 6Pac song, or a 20 year old La Prada song.  Who are these fools?  What notoriety do they have other than they were supposedly signed to Death Row for a month.  I got a couple pennies in my ashtray to throw your way, that's about it. 

The reality is that the longer people hold onto this material, the smaller the market gets for people that actually want to listen to and enjoy it.

For Death Row East:

Eric B
Craig Mack
Big Daddy Kane
Scorpio
Mellie Mel

For Makaveli Records:

Outlawz
Nuttso
Chelle

thanks.

^ good lookin out