CLASSIC ALBUM DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE???

[Bad Dreamz]

Im just having a couple of thoughts here.

Is it necessary to separate "golden era classics" and "non-golden era classics" or "modern classics" or whatever. I mean, classic album is a classic album yeh? Take a classic from -96 and a classic from 2000andsomething, the fact that the other one was made earlier, in the "golden era", doesnt make the other album any worse or "less classic" am I right? Just started to think about this when UCC said Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP is a "really, really dope album but not a classic" because it was not made in the "golden era" (no offence to UCC, just want to know what other people think about this term-thing).

[UCC]

Im just having a couple of thoughts here.

Is it necessary to separate "golden era classics" and "non-golden era classics" or "modern classics" or whatever. I mean, classic album is a classic album yeh?

Yes, it is necessary to separate them. Some albums have more things that make them a classic than others. A lot of the new stuff might be as good just in the way it sounds but loses out in categories like innovation and influence. If we call them all classics then it makes the significance of the 'real' classics lower - the term classic should refer to an elite group of albums, otherwise if we include every album that is just real dope then there are millions of 'classics'

Take a classic from -96 and a classic from 2000andsomething, the fact that the other one was made earlier, in the "golden era", doesnt make the other album any worse or "less classic" am I right?

Golden era classics aren't classics just because they are from the golden era... it's the other way around - it is called the golden era because there were so many classics in it!
Being made earlier doesn't make any difference, it's just by 96 a lot of stuff had already been done, so it was harder to be really innovative (as well stuff generally started to fall off)

Just started to think about this when UCC said Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP is a "really, really dope album but not a classic" because it was not made in the "golden era" (no offence to UCC, just want to know what other people think about this term-thing).

It's not that it wasn't made in the golden era, it's because it doesn't have a lot of the qualities golden era albums have - innovation, a cohesive overall sound (usually from using one producer or producers using similar styles), etc etc etc

[BOX5 the best poster on this site yell]

I don't see them i agree that good ones but i can't name an album that i can listen start to the end since 2001  but as far as classic i'm still waitin'. And when i say classic i don't speak about westcoast or eastcoast classic !!i speak a real clasiic album no matter where it's from

so name another classic album besides a west coast album,or east coast big name album,cause everybody got they own opinion of a classic,cause it's shit on 2001 i skip but shit is still a classic,same with ready to die,400 degrees and illmatic yell