To the westcoast artist stop trying to sound like he south!

[1234]

Go and listen to some 90s shit then. Real talk from Smoke Um.

have y'all forgot. good music still sells. for example common's album sold more than snoop's shit. listen to eggo drippin' and you can tell why that album didn't sell. you can't deny good music.

I never said todays shit is better. 90s music > 2008. But im sayin you cant hate all these dudes for sounding like they do. Lil E still on his West shit same with the nigga Malone.

[D-Stress]

You Cant Hate Them (New Rappers) As Persons For Tryin To Do Something New Etc. But The Main Result Is Music And It Sucks.
So Fuck The New Shit, Sound All The Same, To This Music You Can Only Dance And Not Listen To.Some Club-Feel-Good-Go-To-War BULLSHIT, Music Needs SOUL And In The New Music, Theres No Soul.

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[Black Gloves]

u dont get it do u?

that old 90s sound is soo fuckin dead and out of date. nobody except hardcore westcoast fans like u n me is checkin for it.

and its hard to create a whole new sound just like that. and when they do all you say is "im not feelin it", "i was expecting more", "this sound like south"

so the only thing they cna do to create a hit, to blow up, to sales records is to cater to shit thats hot right now.


you dumb ass muthafuckas need to stop with the fucking "dont sell out", "dont use south beats", "work only with westcoast producers" bullshit.

music is fuckin music.


Game got a so called eastcoast flow, uses different types of beats and look at him, hes on the top.

Stop tryna pigeonhole the new comers and fuck with it or not.

The only reason niggas on dubcnn want "westcoast production" anyway is because they wanna hear new Quik, Battlecat and all the other dubcnn favorite beats.

Its not because you wanna hear that artist work with the producer he feels fits him, its just that you ppl dont get to hear Quik, Battlecat and etc beats that often n thats why
you want them to get beats from them and thats the truth.

It's not that i'mwantto hear quik or battle cat look at Jay Z or Nas they don't use south beat and i don't say don't use i tryin to say be urself and don't do the same shit that is already done ! i don't talk about war i talk about identity !  every rap sound the same on the same damn beat!! U can do some song on south beat to show u can ride on this type of beat but not an entire album or mixtape.(new west order most the beat sound south to me!)
I agree with u music is music but don't cry when westcoast don't shine . I didn't say i don't like music from the south but i don't like the fact that every body sound the same because they think the only way to the blow up it's to make a hit with formula south beat feat Tpain or Akon but it doesn't work for the west 

Jay-Z n Nas are legends. They dont even need to shoot a video to sell more than 100 or 200K records.

They iconic.

What do you expect a young dude like G Malone and them to do now to sell? What do you think the labels tell them?

They have to sell records. N nowadays unfortunately the bubble gum shit is whats sellin right now and thats why they HAVE to do songs like that.

2-3 years ago CLUB HITS or songs for females is what made a cat blow up (ie 50, Game etc)

Now sadly, its different.

So now that the record industry aint sellin no more, these record excecutives tries to follow the same pattern that other cats that is sellin is taking.

[Black Excellence]

u dont get it do u?

that old 90s sound is soo fuckin dead and out of date. nobody except hardcore westcoast fans like u n me is checkin for it.

and its hard to create a whole new sound just like that. and when they do all you say is "im not feelin it", "i was expecting more", "this sound like south"

so the only thing they cna do to create a hit, to blow up, to sales records is to cater to shit thats hot right now.


you dumb ass muthafuckas need to stop with the fucking "dont sell out", "dont use south beats", "work only with westcoast producers" bullshit.

music is fuckin music.


Game got a so called eastcoast flow, uses different types of beats and look at him, hes on the top.

Stop tryna pigeonhole the new comers and fuck with it or not.

The only reason niggas on dubcnn want "westcoast production" anyway is because they wanna hear new Quik, Battlecat and all the other dubcnn favorite beats.

Its not because you wanna hear that artist work with the producer he feels fits him, its just that you ppl dont get to hear Quik, Battlecat and etc beats that often n thats why
you want them to get beats from them and thats the truth.

It's not that i'mwantto hear quik or battle cat look at Jay Z or Nas they don't use south beat and i don't say don't use i tryin to say be urself and don't do the same shit that is already done ! i don't talk about war i talk about identity !  every rap sound the same on the same damn beat!! U can do some song on south beat to show u can ride on this type of beat but not an entire album or mixtape.(new west order most the beat sound south to me!)
I agree with u music is music but don't cry when westcoast don't shine . I didn't say i don't like music from the south but i don't like the fact that every body sound the same because they think the only way to the blow up it's to make a hit with formula south beat feat Tpain or Akon but it doesn't work for the west 

Jay-Z n Nas are legends. They dont even need to shoot a video to sell more than 100 or 200K records.

They iconic.

What do you expect a young dude like G Malone and them to do now to sell? What do you think the labels tell them?

They have to sell records. N nowadays unfortunately the bubble gum shit is whats sellin right now and thats why they HAVE to do songs like that.

2-3 years ago CLUB HITS or songs for females is what made a cat blow up (ie 50, Game etc)

Now sadly, its different.

So now that the record industry aint sellin no more, these record excecutives tries to follow the same pattern that other cats that is sellin is taking.

they have the choice to introduce somethin' fresh to the game. it's on them to be a sell out or not fuck label pressure. there are more than one ways to skin a cat. and if you're passionate about your art, it will show and it won't sound so fuckin' repetive like some of this bullshit that's out. the west needs to bring that live musical element back to their music. you don't hear dr. dre makin' beats that sound like wack ass collipark and been in the game longer than a lotta people. so you can be you and sell records. look at a few people who dropped wack albums recently and check their sales. that's all right there.

[Black Gloves]

u dont get it do u?

that old 90s sound is soo fuckin dead and out of date. nobody except hardcore westcoast fans like u n me is checkin for it.

and its hard to create a whole new sound just like that. and when they do all you say is "im not feelin it", "i was expecting more", "this sound like south"

so the only thing they cna do to create a hit, to blow up, to sales records is to cater to shit thats hot right now.


you dumb ass muthafuckas need to stop with the fucking "dont sell out", "dont use south beats", "work only with westcoast producers" bullshit.

music is fuckin music.


Game got a so called eastcoast flow, uses different types of beats and look at him, hes on the top.

Stop tryna pigeonhole the new comers and fuck with it or not.

The only reason niggas on dubcnn want "westcoast production" anyway is because they wanna hear new Quik, Battlecat and all the other dubcnn favorite beats.

Its not because you wanna hear that artist work with the producer he feels fits him, its just that you ppl dont get to hear Quik, Battlecat and etc beats that often n thats why
you want them to get beats from them and thats the truth.

It's not that i'mwantto hear quik or battle cat look at Jay Z or Nas they don't use south beat and i don't say don't use i tryin to say be urself and don't do the same shit that is already done ! i don't talk about war i talk about identity !  every rap sound the same on the same damn beat!! U can do some song on south beat to show u can ride on this type of beat but not an entire album or mixtape.(new west order most the beat sound south to me!)
I agree with u music is music but don't cry when westcoast don't shine . I didn't say i don't like music from the south but i don't like the fact that every body sound the same because they think the only way to the blow up it's to make a hit with formula south beat feat Tpain or Akon but it doesn't work for the west 

Jay-Z n Nas are legends. They dont even need to shoot a video to sell more than 100 or 200K records.

They iconic.

What do you expect a young dude like G Malone and them to do now to sell? What do you think the labels tell them?

They have to sell records. N nowadays unfortunately the bubble gum shit is whats sellin right now and thats why they HAVE to do songs like that.

2-3 years ago CLUB HITS or songs for females is what made a cat blow up (ie 50, Game etc)

Now sadly, its different.

So now that the record industry aint sellin no more, these record excecutives tries to follow the same pattern that other cats that is sellin is taking.

they have the choice to introduce somethin' fresh to the game. it's on them to be a sell out or not fuck label pressure. there are more than one ways to skin a cat. and if you're passionate about your art, it will show and it won't sound so fuckin' repetive like some of this bullshit that's out. the west needs to bring that live musical element back to their music. you don't hear dr. dre makin' beats that sound like wack ass collipark and been in the game longer than a lotta people. so you can be you and sell records. look at a few people who dropped wack albums recently and check their sales. that's all right there.

lol are you fucking stupid?

if it was that simple everybody would be doin it.

the fact is IF YOURE SIGNED TO A MAJOR LABEL..THEY CONTROL U..you dont control shit.

But if you do it independently or not with a major label, u dont get any push, some of those labels might not even pay u the real amount of paper u pose to get (ie KOCH) and no promotion and not a big album budget.

Its the A&Rs and the Record Excecutives that says "heey, why dont you get a feature from that little wayne guy, i heard he sold alot of records" and shit like that.


You do know that before artists drop a single and a album, they have to play it to the excecutives right?

If they dont like it then they tell you to do it all over again or what u should do.

But if you a establishsed artist (ie Snoop, Game etc) they might trust u more cuz ure experienced and you've sold alot of records already.


But we talkin about NEW CATS here.



Bishop aint been doin no South shit n he been doin the shit you said exactly, but Glasses has with the Certified song, Haters an Fucc With Me....and who really has/had the biggest buzz between the 2??
N dont say "its because hes signed to Wayne/Baby and em" cuz thats false.

So you do the math.

[Black Excellence]

u dont get it do u?

that old 90s sound is soo fuckin dead and out of date. nobody except hardcore westcoast fans like u n me is checkin for it.

and its hard to create a whole new sound just like that. and when they do all you say is "im not feelin it", "i was expecting more", "this sound like south"

so the only thing they cna do to create a hit, to blow up, to sales records is to cater to shit thats hot right now.


you dumb ass muthafuckas need to stop with the fucking "dont sell out", "dont use south beats", "work only with westcoast producers" bullshit.

music is fuckin music.


Game got a so called eastcoast flow, uses different types of beats and look at him, hes on the top.

Stop tryna pigeonhole the new comers and fuck with it or not.

The only reason niggas on dubcnn want "westcoast production" anyway is because they wanna hear new Quik, Battlecat and all the other dubcnn favorite beats.

Its not because you wanna hear that artist work with the producer he feels fits him, its just that you ppl dont get to hear Quik, Battlecat and etc beats that often n thats why
you want them to get beats from them and thats the truth.

It's not that i'mwantto hear quik or battle cat look at Jay Z or Nas they don't use south beat and i don't say don't use i tryin to say be urself and don't do the same shit that is already done ! i don't talk about war i talk about identity !  every rap sound the same on the same damn beat!! U can do some song on south beat to show u can ride on this type of beat but not an entire album or mixtape.(new west order most the beat sound south to me!)
I agree with u music is music but don't cry when westcoast don't shine . I didn't say i don't like music from the south but i don't like the fact that every body sound the same because they think the only way to the blow up it's to make a hit with formula south beat feat Tpain or Akon but it doesn't work for the west 

Jay-Z n Nas are legends. They dont even need to shoot a video to sell more than 100 or 200K records.

They iconic.

What do you expect a young dude like G Malone and them to do now to sell? What do you think the labels tell them?

They have to sell records. N nowadays unfortunately the bubble gum shit is whats sellin right now and thats why they HAVE to do songs like that.

2-3 years ago CLUB HITS or songs for females is what made a cat blow up (ie 50, Game etc)

Now sadly, its different.

So now that the record industry aint sellin no more, these record excecutives tries to follow the same pattern that other cats that is sellin is taking.

they have the choice to introduce somethin' fresh to the game. it's on them to be a sell out or not fuck label pressure. there are more than one ways to skin a cat. and if you're passionate about your art, it will show and it won't sound so fuckin' repetive like some of this bullshit that's out. the west needs to bring that live musical element back to their music. you don't hear dr. dre makin' beats that sound like wack ass collipark and been in the game longer than a lotta people. so you can be you and sell records. look at a few people who dropped wack albums recently and check their sales. that's all right there.

lol are you fucking stupid?

if it was that simple everybody would be doin it.

the fact is IF YOURE SIGNED TO A MAJOR LABEL..THEY CONTROL U..you dont control shit.

But if you do it independently or not with a major label, u dont get any push, some of those labels might not even pay u the real amount of paper u pose to get (ie KOCH) and no promotion and not a big album budget.

Its the A&Rs and the Record Excecutives that says "heey, why dont you get a feature from that little wayne guy, i heard he sold alot of records" and shit like that.


You do know that before artists drop a single and a album, they have to play it to the excecutives right?

If they dont like it then they tell you to do it all over again or what u should do.

But if you a establishsed artist (ie Snoop, Game etc) they might trust u more cuz ure experienced and you've sold alot of records already.


But we talkin about NEW CATS here.



Bishop aint been doin no South shit n he been doin the shit you said exactly, but Glasses has with the Certified song, Haters an Fucc With Me....and who really has/had the biggest buzz between the 2??
N dont say "its because hes signed to Wayne/Baby and em" cuz thats false.

So you do the math.

bitch that's no excuse. and if push came to shove i would buy bishop's album at least he didn't go and hop on the south's dick. and to be honest glasses is nothin' more than a west coast mike jones. now let the hate begin people!!!!!!!

[Black Excellence]

u dont get it do u?

that old 90s sound is soo fuckin dead and out of date. nobody except hardcore westcoast fans like u n me is checkin for it.

and its hard to create a whole new sound just like that. and when they do all you say is "im not feelin it", "i was expecting more", "this sound like south"

so the only thing they cna do to create a hit, to blow up, to sales records is to cater to shit thats hot right now.


you dumb ass muthafuckas need to stop with the fucking "dont sell out", "dont use south beats", "work only with westcoast producers" bullshit.

music is fuckin music.


Game got a so called eastcoast flow, uses different types of beats and look at him, hes on the top.

Stop tryna pigeonhole the new comers and fuck with it or not.

The only reason niggas on dubcnn want "westcoast production" anyway is because they wanna hear new Quik, Battlecat and all the other dubcnn favorite beats.

Its not because you wanna hear that artist work with the producer he feels fits him, its just that you ppl dont get to hear Quik, Battlecat and etc beats that often n thats why
you want them to get beats from them and thats the truth.

It's not that i'mwantto hear quik or battle cat look at Jay Z or Nas they don't use south beat and i don't say don't use i tryin to say be urself and don't do the same shit that is already done ! i don't talk about war i talk about identity !  every rap sound the same on the same damn beat!! U can do some song on south beat to show u can ride on this type of beat but not an entire album or mixtape.(new west order most the beat sound south to me!)
I agree with u music is music but don't cry when westcoast don't shine . I didn't say i don't like music from the south but i don't like the fact that every body sound the same because they think the only way to the blow up it's to make a hit with formula south beat feat Tpain or Akon but it doesn't work for the west 

Jay-Z n Nas are legends. They dont even need to shoot a video to sell more than 100 or 200K records.

They iconic.

What do you expect a young dude like G Malone and them to do now to sell? What do you think the labels tell them?

They have to sell records. N nowadays unfortunately the bubble gum shit is whats sellin right now and thats why they HAVE to do songs like that.

2-3 years ago CLUB HITS or songs for females is what made a cat blow up (ie 50, Game etc)

Now sadly, its different.

So now that the record industry aint sellin no more, these record excecutives tries to follow the same pattern that other cats that is sellin is taking.

they have the choice to introduce somethin' fresh to the game. it's on them to be a sell out or not fuck label pressure. there are more than one ways to skin a cat. and if you're passionate about your art, it will show and it won't sound so fuckin' repetive like some of this bullshit that's out. the west needs to bring that live musical element back to their music. you don't hear dr. dre makin' beats that sound like wack ass collipark and been in the game longer than a lotta people. so you can be you and sell records. look at a few people who dropped wack albums recently and check their sales. that's all right there.

lol are you fucking stupid?

if it was that simple everybody would be doin it.

the fact is IF YOURE SIGNED TO A MAJOR LABEL..THEY CONTROL U..you dont control shit.

But if you do it independently or not with a major label, u dont get any push, some of those labels might not even pay u the real amount of paper u pose to get (ie KOCH) and no promotion and not a big album budget.

Its the A&Rs and the Record Excecutives that says "heey, why dont you get a feature from that little wayne guy, i heard he sold alot of records" and shit like that.


You do know that before artists drop a single and a album, they have to play it to the excecutives right?

If they dont like it then they tell you to do it all over again or what u should do.

But if you a establishsed artist (ie Snoop, Game etc) they might trust u more cuz ure experienced and you've sold alot of records already.


But we talkin about NEW CATS here.



Bishop aint been doin no South shit n he been doin the shit you said exactly, but Glasses has with the Certified song, Haters an Fucc With Me....and who really has/had the biggest buzz between the 2??
N dont say "its because hes signed to Wayne/Baby and em" cuz thats false.

So you do the math.

so what's your excuse for ice cube? he is straight independent still making shit with wack south beats.

[Black Excellence]

hip hop is being true to yourself, hip hop is being unique, hip hop is not a fad it's a culture.

[streetsofLA]

I personally, have never heard a west coast rapper or mc sound like a down south niggah,

yall need to throw names out there cuz I don't got a clue who yall talkin' bout, if you talking about e-40 you outta of ya fuckin' mind, he got an Oakland accent, but uses the south beats, they are big now, just like when the west coast came out and no one heard that sound you had rappers tappin' in to that sound cuz it was so unique, brand new, for instance the brats "funkadafied", Biggies' "Juicy"..  All the commentators, yall should grab a pen and a pad, go get some west coast beats, and make an album, until then, how you gonna change shit?  or West Coast producers need to step they hustle up, and get back out on the grind, thats the only way shit gonna get down, not hatin' on them niggahs in the game reppin' da Dub, CHA' NA' MEAN?!?

[streetsofLA]

the hate makes us look soooooooooo wack!  like the coast can't stick together!
shit is pitiful!  This is the motherfuckin' West Coast homie! We are unique because its so many different styles of people!  You got the gangsta rappers, you got the THUG or thuglife style rappers (not in no gang, but thugged out on some tupac shit), you got the underground scene in LA, you got the lyrical rappers, you got the skateboarder backpack rappers, You got the pimp smackin' bitches tooshort rappers, you got alot of variety here, but you hatin' on them, embrace your coast!  Embrace what we are, and what we represent.  Fuck your ideals, this is what it is! This is the West Coast 2008

[Black Excellence]

I personally, have never heard a west coast rapper or mc sound like a down south niggah,

yall need to throw names out there cuz I don't got a clue who yall talkin' bout, if you talking about e-40 you outta of ya fuckin' mind, he got an Oakland accent, but uses the south beats, they are big now, just like when the west coast came out and no one heard that sound you had rappers tappin' in to that sound cuz it was so unique, brand new, for instance the brats "funkadafied", Biggies' "Juicy"..  All the commentators, yall should grab a pen and a pad, go get some west coast beats, and make an album, until then, how you gonna change shit?  or West Coast producers need to step they hustle up, and get back out on the grind, thats the only way shit gonna get down, not hatin' on them niggahs in the game reppin' da Dub, CHA' NA' MEAN?!?

E 40 is not the 40 he used to be who are you kiddin' ? put in a major way up again that new shit. but it's not so much the lyrics it's the beats that's  trash. the west has some of the best producers in the game and don't use them. why don't the bay fuck wit ant banks any more what happened to mike mosley and niggas like that??? and don't say i'm stuck in the past because them niggas sold the most fuckin' wit them niggas.

[Black Excellence]

the hate makes us look soooooooooo wack!  like the coast can't stick together!
shit is pitiful!  This is the motherfuckin' West Coast homie! We are unique because its so many different styles of people!  You got the gangsta rappers, you got the THUG or thuglife style rappers (not in no gang, but thugged out on some tupac shit), you got the underground scene in LA, you got the lyrical rappers, you got the skateboarder backpack rappers, You got the pimp smackin' bitches tooshort rappers, you got alot of variety here, but you hatin' on them, embrace your coast!  Embrace what we are, and what we represent.  Fuck your ideals, this is what it is! This is the West Coast 2008

as long as niggas from cali keep rappin over fake ass collipark beats. there will be no support. mc eiht is even washed up.

[streetsofLA]

hip hop is also a snap shot or picture of that era, of that season or of that summertime, like for instance, Nas' album "illmactic" was a snap shot of NYC in the early 90s,
Dre's chronic was the same for the west coast, you feel me, ...its now the year 2008, hip hop has changed alot, if you seen a video with some dude with a jerry curl, dressed in dickies wit bandanas on they head, even you would laugh homie!! even you! because you know that that is not a picture or a snap shot of 2008, you feel me, you'll be like, yo, thats some old school shit, wtf, no what im sayin', can't explain it, im gonna leave this thread alone! lol, this is a pointless conversation, cuz every single one of you who doesn't like how shit is can change it by puttin' in work(read my previous comments above) all you need is a pen and a pad, and a hairdresser, and thats that!

hey yo, homie above me with the last comment, i feel you, there are alot of producers from the west, but what are they doin? are they competing? are they hustling and grindin', going to all the award shows, hollarin' at artist, maybe giving them free beats and not charging to get it poppin', like where are they? ONE THING I CAN SAY BOUT THE SOUTH IS THEM BOYS GOT H U S T L E,

and like Jay said, what more can i say?

[Black Excellence]

hip hop is also a snap shot or picture of that era, of that season or of that summertime, like for instance, Nas' album "illmactic" was a snap shot of NYC in the early 90s,
Dre's chronic was the same for the west coast, you feel me, ...its now the year 2008, hip hop has changed alot, if you seen a video with some dude with a jerry curl, dressed in dickies wit bandanas on they head, even you would laugh homie!! even you! because you know that that is not a picture or a snap shot of 2008, you feel me, you'll be like, yo, thats some old school shit, wtf, no what im sayin', can't explain it, im gonna leave this thread alone! lol, this is a pointless conversation, cuz every single one of you who doesn't like how shit is can change it by puttin' in work(read my previous comments above) all you need is a pen and a pad, and a hairdresser, and thats that!

hey yo, homie above me with the last comment, i feel you, there are alot of producers from the west, but what are they doin? are they competing? are they hustling and grindin', going to all the award shows, hollarin' at artist, maybe giving them free beats and not charging to get it poppin', like where are they? ONE THING I CAN SAY BOUT THE SOUTH IS THEM BOYS GOT H U S T L E,

and like Jay said, what more can i say?

that's true. and i think niggas like strong arm steady,young maylay, and westurn union and dj crazy toones makes the best music to represent the west but they shit don't be soundin' all south and artificial. they shit sound amazing. if fact,i'm disapointed in glasses malone. he went south. he is the west coast version of mike jones. real talk ....LOL.