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Re: Celtics to sign center Jermaine O'Neal
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2010, 07:29:14 AM »
Yeah I wouldnt just give the title to Cleveland yet. But they are obviously the favorites. Look at the Lakers with their HOF roster they tried to create. They got smoked by the Pistons lol. A team with not one HOF'er on it.

You mean Miami? They're much different than that Lakers team. For one, LeBron, Bosh, and Wade are have been friends for a while. When the Lakers put that team together Kobe and Shaq had been having issues for years and there was all that shit going around about Malone trying to get with Kobe's wife. Not to mention the enormous age gap on the team and the distraction of Kobe's sexual assault accusation. Plus Malone and Payton (although still effective) were out of their prime. I don't see the Heat winning this year and I agree that just adding big names isn't always the answer, but I don't really think the situations are that comparable.

Well actually Malone and Payton were good friends with Shaq. Besides, in theory, a team with that much talent should have never lost., no matter what was going on. They had the greatest coach ever, most dominating center ever, greatest power forward not named Tim Duncan, best defensive point guard in the game, and a player who was being compared to the greatest ever, I mean that much talent shouldn't ever lost, rape trail or not. And they did get out the west, which was better than the eastern conference. I mean the 'Wolves team they beat was better than the Pistons that year, BUT in the end it still didn't work out. I still think Bosh is going to have to hold that front line to himself, and they are not getting past Boston or Orlando if that happens. Lets see what pieces fall in place before we start making predictions.
sorry, pierce at his age is a JOKE compared to lebron or wade. stop dreaming M dogg, the lakers aint winning shit until wade retires

Dumbest comment ever, straight up. You're almost as bad as NIKCC sucking Kobe's dick. Last I checked, 5 out of the last 11 titles have been won by the Lakers. Meaning, if the Lakers don't win another title, then they still reach Lakers of the 80's status. But they still have their core, they still have Artest who will guard LeBron, they still have Kobe who will guard Wade, they still have Gasol and Bynum to match up with Bosh, and they still have Odom who will fill in the holes that are needed, and they still have the greatest coach in the game to out coach... who is the Heat coach?


Dumbest comment ever? Pierce is nothing compared to LeBron or Wade, and what have the last Laker titles got to do with anything? I'm not talking about the past or the Lakers legacy. I'm just saying the Lakers are done winning titles during the Kobe era. You wanna make a bet?

And to your last question: At some point it will be Pat Riley.
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Re: Celtics to sign center Jermaine O'Neal
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2010, 08:35:23 AM »
All this to say tho... i cant wait till the season starts
 

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Re: Celtics to sign center Jermaine O'Neal
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2010, 08:43:09 AM »
Yeah I wouldnt just give the title to Cleveland yet. But they are obviously the favorites. Look at the Lakers with their HOF roster they tried to create. They got smoked by the Pistons lol. A team with not one HOF'er on it.

You mean Miami? They're much different than that Lakers team. For one, LeBron, Bosh, and Wade are have been friends for a while. When the Lakers put that team together Kobe and Shaq had been having issues for years and there was all that shit going around about Malone trying to get with Kobe's wife. Not to mention the enormous age gap on the team and the distraction of Kobe's sexual assault accusation. Plus Malone and Payton (although still effective) were out of their prime. I don't see the Heat winning this year and I agree that just adding big names isn't always the answer, but I don't really think the situations are that comparable.

Well actually Malone and Payton were good friends with Shaq. Besides, in theory, a team with that much talent should have never lost., no matter what was going on. They had the greatest coach ever, most dominating center ever, greatest power forward not named Tim Duncan, best defensive point guard in the game, and a player who was being compared to the greatest ever, I mean that much talent shouldn't ever lost, rape trail or not. And they did get out the west, which was better than the eastern conference. I mean the 'Wolves team they beat was better than the Pistons that year, BUT in the end it still didn't work out. I still think Bosh is going to have to hold that front line to himself, and they are not getting past Boston or Orlando if that happens. Lets see what pieces fall in place before we start making predictions.
sorry, pierce at his age is a JOKE compared to lebron or wade. stop dreaming M dogg, the lakers aint winning shit until wade retires

Dumbest comment ever, straight up. You're almost as bad as NIKCC sucking Kobe's dick. Last I checked, 5 out of the last 11 titles have been won by the Lakers. Meaning, if the Lakers don't win another title, then they still reach Lakers of the 80's status. But they still have their core, they still have Artest who will guard LeBron, they still have Kobe who will guard Wade, they still have Gasol and Bynum to match up with Bosh, and they still have Odom who will fill in the holes that are needed, and they still have the greatest coach in the game to out coach... who is the Heat coach?


Dumbest comment ever? Pierce is nothing compared to LeBron or Wade, and what have the last Laker titles got to do with anything? I'm not talking about the past or the Lakers legacy. I'm just saying the Lakers are done winning titles during the Kobe era. You wanna make a bet?

And to your last question: At some point it will be Pat Riley.

First off, Erik Spoelstra is the chosen one to be Pat Riley's apprentice. Second Kobe is not that old, his still pulling off playoff victories and his still clutch. Jordan was winning until he was 35 so look for Kobe to still compete. Also, Gasol is looking like his ready to take a bigger role than Robin, his looking more and more like Nightwing each day.

Lastly, what the fuck would you have that I want, I got it all. For reals, I got everything I've ever wanted, so what can you offer me in a bet, I personally have nothing to gain and everything to lose, so fuck it.
 

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Re: Celtics to sign center Jermaine O'Neal
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2010, 08:47:58 AM »
You are taking this pretty personal, huh?  :D

Pat Riley will do his thing. No doubt about it. Also, Jordan was winning at that age because he joined the NBA much older than Kobe did and because he was taking 2-3 years off during his prime. Not comparable. Kobe's mileage is huge.

But I'm glad that you're having such a great life, because the NBA won't be great fun for any Laker-Fan during the next 6 years.
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Re: Celtics to sign center Jermaine O'Neal
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2010, 10:11:19 AM »
You are taking this pretty personal, huh?  :D

Pat Riley will do his thing. No doubt about it. Also, Jordan was winning at that age because he joined the NBA much older than Kobe did and because he was taking 2-3 years off during his prime. Not comparable. Kobe's mileage is huge.

But I'm glad that you're having such a great life, because the NBA won't be great fun for any Laker-Fan during the next 6 years.

Personal, your the one wanting to make a bet, to me that's personal, I don't even know you.

And the next 2-3 years for a Laker fan will be great. And remember, the Lakers have only missed the playoffs 5 times in their whole history, and have 15 titles. Odds that the Lakers suck will be slim to none. They may rebuild after the Kobe era for a year, and that's it, or they rebuild around Gasol. Either way, unless the Heat get a bigger and better front line to team with Bosh, right now you're just talking out your ass.
 

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Re: Celtics to sign center Jermaine O'Neal
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2010, 10:20:58 AM »
^I don't think 7even means that the Lakers will "suck". I'm sure he feels they are the favorites to win the West; but he knows they can't beat this trio in Miami.

I'm not saying that Boston "should of won" or anything, but the game Perkins was out the Lakers had like 15 offensive rebounds lol.

Point being, Perkins in Game 7 could of easily been another Celtic ring; meaning you would of lost to an aging, beat up Big 3; now you got 3 players (two almost unguardable) in the primes of their career & you don't think they will put up a MUCH better fight than the aging Celtics that took you to a Game 7?
 

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Re: Celtics to sign center Jermaine O'Neal
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2010, 10:29:27 AM »
^I don't think 7even means that the Lakers will "suck". I'm sure he feels they are the favorites to win the West; but he knows they can't beat this trio in Miami.

I'm not saying that Boston "should of won" or anything, but the game Perkins was out the Lakers had like 15 offensive rebounds lol.

Point being, Perkins in Game 7 could of easily been another Celtic ring; meaning you would of lost to an aging, beat up Big 3; now you got 3 players (two almost unguardable) in the primes of their career & you don't think they will put up a MUCH better fight than the aging Celtics that took you to a Game 7?

depending on who's up front. Even though Perkins was out,the Celtics still had KG, Big Baby and Wallace up front. They may have not had enough to beat the Lakers, but that front line is better than what Miami can muster up with their cap limitations. Their perimeter will be hard to match up with. That's why the Lakers got Artest. Though the Finals proved that eventually Pierce did get free from Artest over 7 games, Artest was able to slow him down enough to allow the Lakers to defend everyone else. And in Wade's position, his directly competing with Kobe, so that's actually in LA's favor in the match up. So it is what it is. The Lakers are defending champions, and unless Miami can get Fisher from the Lakers, and add some big credible bodies (not tired Shaq), I wouldn't say Miami can beat LA.
 

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Re: Celtics to sign center Jermaine O'Neal
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2010, 04:42:56 AM »
I know the NBA, and I know it is full of guys who would kill their family to play on a variation of the "Team USA" in the league. Players like T-Mac or AI would kill their kids for being able to join on vets min terms. The center positions need 1-2 talented or aggressive guys, but there are some serviceable bigs out there, I think they will get Haslem and Z for sure, maybe even more.
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Re: Celtics to sign center Jermaine O'Neal
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2010, 09:41:56 AM »
^I don't think 7even means that the Lakers will "suck". I'm sure he feels they are the favorites to win the West; but he knows they can't beat this trio in Miami.

I'm not saying that Boston "should of won" or anything, but the game Perkins was out the Lakers had like 15 offensive rebounds lol.

Point being, Perkins in Game 7 could of easily been another Celtic ring; meaning you would of lost to an aging, beat up Big 3; now you got 3 players (two almost unguardable) in the primes of their career & you don't think they will put up a MUCH better fight than the aging Celtics that took you to a Game 7?

depending on who's up front. Even though Perkins was out,the Celtics still had KG, Big Baby and Wallace up front. They may have not had enough to beat the Lakers, but that front line is better than what Miami can muster up with their cap limitations. Their perimeter will be hard to match up with. That's why the Lakers got Artest. Though the Finals proved that eventually Pierce did get free from Artest over 7 games, Artest was able to slow him down enough to allow the Lakers to defend everyone else. And in Wade's position, his directly competing with Kobe, so that's actually in LA's favor in the match up. So it is what it is. The Lakers are defending champions, and unless Miami can get Fisher from the Lakers, and add some big credible bodies (not tired Shaq), I wouldn't say Miami can beat LA.

Yeah, but the Heat can focus WAY more on just Kobe where the Lakers have to worry about two players in Kobe's class.

Also, not to take anything away from Pierce, he's an all-star caliber veteran, but he's nowhere near Bron or Wade in terms of what Artest will have to defend.
 

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Re: Celtics to sign center Jermaine O'Neal
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2010, 10:55:58 AM »
Yeah I wouldnt just give the title to Cleveland yet. But they are obviously the favorites. Look at the Lakers with their HOF roster they tried to create. They got smoked by the Pistons lol. A team with not one HOF'er on it.

You mean Miami? They're much different than that Lakers team. For one, LeBron, Bosh, and Wade are have been friends for a while. When the Lakers put that team together Kobe and Shaq had been having issues for years and there was all that shit going around about Malone trying to get with Kobe's wife. Not to mention the enormous age gap on the team and the distraction of Kobe's sexual assault accusation. Plus Malone and Payton (although still effective) were out of their prime. I don't see the Heat winning this year and I agree that just adding big names isn't always the answer, but I don't really think the situations are that comparable.

Well actually Malone and Payton were good friends with Shaq. Besides, in theory, a team with that much talent should have never lost., no matter what was going on. They had the greatest coach ever, most dominating center ever, greatest power forward not named Tim Duncan, best defensive point guard in the game, and a player who was being compared to the greatest ever, I mean that much talent shouldn't ever lost, rape trail or not. And they did get out the west, which was better than the eastern conference. I mean the 'Wolves team they beat was better than the Pistons that year, BUT in the end it still didn't work out. I still think Bosh is going to have to hold that front line to himself, and they are not getting past Boston or Orlando if that happens. Lets see what pieces fall in place before we start making predictions.

If it makes you feel any better...that same Pistons squad that murdered you guys lost in the Finals the following year. Who beat them again??  ;D
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Re: Celtics to sign center Jermaine O'Neal
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2010, 02:26:15 PM »
Boston is still the team to beat in the east.

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Re: Celtics to sign center Jermaine O'Neal
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2010, 05:32:46 PM »
Boston is still the team to beat in the east.

Word.

KG, Pierce & Allen > Wade, LeBron & Bosh.