what really hapened with game and dre

[Teddy Roosevelt]

According to Stat Quo, Dre won't cosign you unless you've got support and public appeal because he's concerned with his legacy.

I would think it is quite obvious. Dre really only cares about 2 things: Money and his legacy. He's getting older and has fallen off quite a bit, so he doesn't want to work for just anyone. That's why he signs artists, realize they won't sell and drops them. That's what he was going to do with Game until 50 stepped in and put him on G-Unit. Game became a success, but wasn't doing 50 Cent/Eminem #s. So when the beef started and they refused to work together, Dre saw that the big dollars/fame was with 50. While Game could still sell, Dre's lazy ass didn't want to put so much effort into an artist that has a chance of flopping. So he was moved to Geffen. I'm sure Jimmy Ivone had something to do with it, but I don't think he really influenced Dre to do anything that he wasn't going to do after being Ivone's bitch for 5 years.

[kevin t]

game fucked his bitch... really who cares this site is turning into a womens gossip column

[Teddy Roosevelt]

game fucked his bitch... really who cares this site is turning into a womens gossip column

We are trying to determine the reasoning behind past events. How is that a woman's gossip colomn?

[StreetPoet]

The whiteboy fucked it up

[west koasting]

If that's the case dre aint showing no california love take him off that song

[Dre-Day]

Dres over here producing for 50 but not game,dre brought game up and now he don't nothing 2 do with him. Something happened and something that we don't know about,guess only they know.

yeah obviously a couple of things were kept secret.

anyway Game was lucky, that Jimmy saved him

[GangstaBoogy]

game thought he did everything on his own. He disrespected the guy whole built his buzz then when dre told him to cut the dissing out he didnt listen. He thought he was grown hahaha. Therefore he got the boot from the family.

That can't be it. If Dre was mad about the dissing then he would've been mad at guys like Yayo and Buck stirring that shit up even more on mixtapes and radio interviews. My guess is Dre was told he wasn't allowed to work with Game anymore. Jimmy makes the decisions around there, and unfortunately for Game, 50 has a lot of pull!

Nah Buck and yayo aint signed to dre so he could care less, game was signed to dre. They never really made records about game so they did to a certain degree do what 50 and dre said. Dres been in the industry forever he knows how much did for him and the way game went about shit probably left a bad taste in his mouth like everybody other person who has common sense.

But its still the same camp. If Dre was really mad about the dissing he would've told Game "you need to stop" and told 50 "yo I talked to Game, now you need to stop and tell your boys to shut the fuck up". He didn't do that. Its obvious Dre was told what he was going to do.

[eNgIeS]

Doesnt anyone remember Dre's answer in an interview he did like a year ago.

Tryin to search for it now it was on here i think from LA Times but cant find it. it was definitely posted on here

basically Dre was asked about why he never commented publicly on the 50 cent and Game beef, and Dre said why would he, basically saying its between those 2 and told both that when they sort there problems they can make music together again

He also commented on Game saying how his voice reminded him of raw old NWA stuff

I think it's simple to understand the relationship Dre has with everybody once you understand the structure of the Aftermath camp.  Essentially you've got a middle room where Dre is - he's the boss, everyone comes to him but they don't always work with him.  Next, you've got all the artists and producers that work off in their own little offices with one to several different producers.  While artists have relationships with Dre it's not as big as some claim such as Game - though I believe Eminem's relationship is a case where it's really stable. 

If you peep what Brooklyn says in her interview in 2003, everyone is off doing their own thing and essentially have meetings with the bosses when necessary. 

According to Bishop Lamont's various speaking on Aftermath and interscope, if you ain't always up in the office letting them know you exist then you don't and you have extinction from the camp.

According to Bruce Williams, Bruce Williams Dre's relationship with Game was deteriorated and he was about drop dude until Jimmy offered a solution which involved G-Unit and 50 cent.  Williams essentially claims "Game was a good dude but an average rapper who out of his league."
 
According to Stat Quo, Dre won't cosign you unless you've got support and public appeal because he's concerned with his legacy.  Which happened to Game once 50, who had both, cosigned him under G-Unit. 

If you combine everything together the picture is quite clear.  Game's relationship with Doc Dre isn't as big as he spits.   If anything Game imagined it to be bigger then it really was.  Dre probably cosigned him in private but rarely did it in public.  Once 50 cosigned Game he got his popularity.  Dre started to cosign him until the dissing happened.  Game's action and pressure from the 50 cent (remember 50 threatened to stop working with dude and diss him), labels and outside influences (al sharpton) led Game to being demoted to Geffen - they knew they could milk him for more money hence he wasn't let go of his contract.

You can't believe what most of these rappers are saying.  They're fucking liars for public appeal.  Even the more honest ones like Bishop Lamont you've got to question.  Stat Quo is super honest cause he left the camp/got dropped and is holding feeling against them.  Saigon is another rapper that's pretty honest but reveals his stupidity that way.  50 cent appears to be pretty honest but he be saying wild lies to stir up drama.   

Who's Bruce Williams?

[Jaydc555]

Bruce Williams was dres bodyguard that wrote a book about dre

[Maully aka [Fitted Da Boss]]

whatever happened it doesnt matter...cuz game doesnt really need him imo...and i think its pretty fucked up how he still works wit 50 and doesnt work wit game...but on the other hand...who cares...cuz the shit 50 be gettin aint all that anyway...so game and 50 both lost...

[Dre-Day]

Bruce Williams was dres bodyguard that wrote a book about dre

he wasn't a bodyguard

[points]

He also commented on Game saying how his voice reminded him of raw old NWA stuff

I honestly think this is the biggest factor Game has going for him.  In that Bruce book he talks about how Dre doesn't care much for lyrics because he views the voice as another instrument, another sonic dimension of a song. 

But, this is where I think Dre is wrong.  Lyrics matter and without them a good sounding artist, in the long run, ain't shit.

[Booz]

He also commented on Game saying how his voice reminded him of raw old NWA stuff

I honestly think this is the biggest factor Game has going for him.  In that Bruce book he talks about how Dre doesn't care much for lyrics because he views the voice as another instrument, another sonic dimension of a song. 

But, this is where I think Dre is wrong.  Lyrics matter and without them a good sounding artist, in the long run, ain't shit.

But amazing lyrics with crappy flow/voice don't get you even the short run. 

[points]

He also commented on Game saying how his voice reminded him of raw old NWA stuff

I honestly think this is the biggest factor Game has going for him.  In that Bruce book he talks about how Dre doesn't care much for lyrics because he views the voice as another instrument, another sonic dimension of a song. 

But, this is where I think Dre is wrong.  Lyrics matter and without them a good sounding artist, in the long run, ain't shit.

But amazing lyrics with crappy flow/voice don't get you even the short run. 

true true, what the fuck is there to say?  Naw shit.  Ya dig?  Let'em do what they do.

[AOD187um]

It's because 50 is Dre's plug on steroids lol. . .