Who's The King Of New York

[bricklayer]

aight ya'll....ya'll have good points and arguements but im def gonna have to go wit da god.....rakim.....every album he came out wit eric b was monumental classics.....even on his solo albums he still proved his dominance as mc status........he obviously has been low-keyed but all mc's that come out are always compared to rakim......even nas was hailed as the next rakim but never achieved the status.....however wit "oh my god" i think rakim will change the face of hip-hop as he did when he picked up the mic when he was paid in full......
long live the king rakim
peace

[the408figga]

i know it's all opinion but i can't see how some of y'all can sit there and say nas wuz better then BIGGIE? that's a fucken joke homie. Nas is nothin compared to Biggie. Nas has such a fucken weak flow and his lyrics are not always as amazin as peeps say they are. On the other hand biggie always came correct and dropped two classics in a row where as Nas IMO dropped on classic and the rest garbage albums.

biggie had ALOT of respect for nas playa...nas could FREESTYLE

cant remember where i read this(the source), but nas was with biggie here in the westcoast. i think it was frisco and they was posted in the telly(hotel) and some cat that wrote for the source played this beat for nas and biggie. and he said nas ripped the crap out of that beat. he said he was striaght flowin!! and he knew it was off tha dome cuz he was rhymin bout things around them or as they happened. he  said he was in shock. and nas kept on flowin for a loooong time. this cat said everyone was in shock; BIGGIE included. when nas was done everyone looked at biggie like he was gonna pick up where nas left off. but biggie was like naw! i aint fuckin with that.

all im sayin is dont underestimate nas mayn. some of yall dont want to believe

[the408figga]

   king magazine spring 02' bymatt life



  "the reason i hesitate to give him the freestyle crown is because of what happened late one night in san rancisco. aroud five o clock in the morning at he gavin convention in 94' guess who's knocking on my hotel door? big and nas, with a couple bottles of mo', like, "where the dank, matt?" i made a call, and ,needless to say, driving from oakland in the midle of the night was no problem for my man when i told him who was in the room.

"purple haz ablaze, i puled out the box and stated playing beats. immediately, nas started flowing, nonstop till the sun was out. i mean spitin perfect verses and choruses that sounded thought out for hours but could only be off the top due to the here and-now content. barely awake, but in total awe, i looked over at my an free sharring the room wth me. he was stuck. i looked at big-stuck. then nas picked up the glance and paused for big to start rhyming . after one long breah, big said," oh , hell no, i cant fuck wit duke" we laughed and nas just kept going "

 theres tha truth right there!!!

[S.G.V.]

oh yea to tha person that said nas can freestyle,  he said one time 4 your mind was a freestyle an it says it right there in tha 150th issue of tha source an i also heard other nas freestyles 2,  so whoever said that was wrong or either misunderstood

i said that ight dunni...lol...nas came on to the WAKE UP SHOW(the stomping grounds for REAL EMCEES) and when sway asked him to freestyle he declined....he said that he couldnt freestyle....he said but i can write something real quik....they gave him a while...he didnt even write anything....he spit an old verse.....now...that is openly saying that he can't freestyle....and most these freestyles on these mixtapes are written and or pre meditated rhymes.....thats straight up dunni...lol...so GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!!!....

[Shallow]

Why do most people think that because someone can freestyle better  he is the better artist. I use the word artist firmly. If you want to talk about who can liven up the crowd, than give it to Biggie. But Nas's "art" is far superior to Biggie's. With every album Nas's lyrics have improved, covering much more important topics. He went from rapping about the streets (Illmatic), to rapping about cultural problems(It Was Written),and enhanced those topics(I Am), then covered religion and a little bit of foriegn affairs issues (Nastradamus), then rolled it all into one (Stillmatic). He showed he can do much more than most MCs. Maybe his freestyling isn't that great, but I doubt Picasso's rough scetches were considered masterpeices, or when Mozart played around on his piano , was that a Masterpeice. Although I have respect for the freestyle, it is the least important part of hip hop, and what hip hop should be. Messages should be being sent to the listeners (kick some knowledge). Biggie is nowhere near Nas in that department, he had a bit of it on his first album, then even less on his second one(I don't consider Life After Death a classic). Nas atleast sometimes has a purpose in his rap. However not always and everything Nas covers in the past has already been covered by the true King of New York (except for John Gotti), Lawrence Parker.

[I TO DA GEEZY]

ok...let me tell you somethin about NAS...who prolly iz one of the luckiest mothafuckaz in tha game...you see...tha dude mannaged to drop a mos def classic album "ILLMATIC" as hiz first album, hiz debut...
and even tho hiz next effortz seemed to completelly miss that spark he brought wit ILLMATIC...he still remained respected and loved by headz....WHY, you aks....-for 2 reasonz which i keep mentionin for some time now ....
1.hiz unbelieveable vocal spuremacy...and tha amazing resemblance to tha m.c formally known as THE GOD ( )-vocally of course
2. he constantlly continues to follow the so called "stress a massage"  formula.....and no metter how clumzy and inconsistent it may be done...headz will still eat it up simply cauze of tha fact dat it soundz(sonicly....) unblelieveably good...

alow me to remind you again- "SOUNDZ" ....what meanz headz have been fooled...and when it comes to MR Nasir Jones....they become BEAT\SOUND listenerz....and forget about topical consistency and about proper topical telling\delivery.

of course NAS haz improved greatlly on STILLMATIC...but yall can"t just close yo eyez on da shit dat waz happenin be4....shit iz so serious dat it makes me question not only hiz debut as a mearly one time sucsess...but also hiz latest and upcoming releasez....shit"z like a trauma...lol...of course it"z not fair to take tha right of a rapper to improve...but those 3 garbage can albumz made me loose my logical thinkin for a moment there...lol...but i apresiate NAS improving on STILLMATIC...and for now he haz my respect as an artist.
now BIGGIE....lol...BIGGIE waz unbelieveable....hiz storytellin skillz...charisma...flow...r tha top of tha top....
hiz debut din"t seem so much of a one time sucsess......not only cauze it waz longer....it basiclly shined wit confidence  showing BIGGIE waz for long....of course somethin happent on "life after"
...but hey...it wazn"t as dissapointing as NASz second album...in fact it waz far from that kind of dissapointment...prolly cauze it waz half solid.......
but BIGz debut ...shit...only that shit put him to tha top of NY (not only NY tho)....for yearz to come....

[S.G.V.]

Why do most people think that because someone can freestyle better  he is the better artist. I use the word artist firmly. If you want to talk about who can liven up the crowd, than give it to Biggie. But Nas's "art" is far superior to Biggie's. With every album Nas's lyrics have improved, covering much more important topics. He went from rapping about the streets (Illmatic), to rapping about cultural problems(It Was Written),and enhanced those topics(I Am), then covered religion and a little bit of foriegn affairs issues (Nastradamus), then rolled it all into one (Stillmatic). He showed he can do much more than most MCs. Maybe his freestyling isn't that great, but I doubt Picasso's rough scetches were considered masterpeices, or when Mozart played around on his piano , was that a Masterpeice. Although I have respect for the freestyle, it is the least important part of hip hop, and what hip hop should be. Messages should be being sent to the listeners (kick some knowledge). Biggie is nowhere near Nas in that department, he had a bit of it on his first album, then even less on his second one(I don't consider Life After Death a classic). Nas atleast sometimes has a purpose in his rap. However not always and everything Nas covers in the past has already been covered by the true King of New York (except for John Gotti), Lawrence Parker.

i dont agree with u one bit....hip hop started off of freestyling...how could u say its least important...that really tests ur skills if u can onsite drop hot verses from the top....thats just my opinion

[M Dogg™]

It doesn't matter who's better at freestyling between Nas and Biggie. Just like the king of the westcoast crown, Biggie and 2Pac ruled their coast, and people on each coast knew that. As of now, they are both passed on, hopefully resting. Let them rest, let them move on to better things. Their crowns are pasted down, as Snoop Dogg has clearly got the king of the Westcoast crown on lock. He runs the streets are all L.A. Crip gangs are down with him, and his untouchable, even by Suge Knight. Nas I think from what I've heard is getting the king of N.Y. crown, as people on the street reconize him as the one that beat Jay-Z and is calling shots in the rap game. Stillmatic was a freestyle, and the whole written/freestyle thing was basically something to say that Nas is a writter, a poet. But from what I've heard, right now N.Y. reconizes Nas as the king, and that's what matter. Biggie is gone, has been for 5 years now. N.Y. wants a new king, and Nas, like it or not, has took the crown. On the West, Snoop has had it for a long time. Until Jigga can top Either, and Xzibit gets more charisma to match Snoop, it will stay that way. R.I.P. Biggie and 2Pac, they died with their crowns, but we still need our kings.

[Sub-Z]

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[bricklayer]

im sayin ya'll how can u give any crown other than the mc known as "the god"......give it some thought......he changed the game of rap once......and the next album he will change it once  more.....anotha thing bout him, i hear more mc's usin his lines than any otha rapper by far and away...no comparison at all.......but i mean he said it himself "i'm the R the A to the K I M if i wasnt than why would i say I Am".......the king forever.......
peace

[West Coast Veteran]

Snoop was King of the West Coast twice. During The Chronic era until Pac dropped Me Against The World and then after Pac died. Nas is the new King of New York. Jay had his time. Xzibit is obviously the Prince of the West and maybe future King. If Dr. Dre was an MC then he would definitely be the King since '88.

[DPGC2001]

Biggie was the King Of NewYork when he was alive but I don't think anyone is now...In terms of popularity Jay-z was the biggest in NY but his rep took a big hit when Nas shitted on him with Ether and people started to see Jigga as a bitch afterwards...Nas as far as skill level goes should easily be the King of NY but I don't think people in NY feel Nas like they did Biggie...People in NY felt about Biggie the way the West thought about Pac and I don't think they get the same feeling about Nas...

[Liquid-Dogg]

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[maddskilzz9]

I think the crown has to go to Biggie and i don't think anyone will ever come close to what he did for NY and he will always remain to me and i'm sure to a lot of others as the kind of New York.I don't give a fuck what Jay-z or Nas to it will never compare. hahaha i can't believe Jay-z claimed to be better then biggie! hahahaha what a fucken joke.

RIP Biggie u will always be the greatest!

Its gotta b Biggie......fo sho

R.I.P- one love-my nigga

[M Dogg™]

As I said. If Big was alive, then Biggie. But the people of New York in post 9/11 seem to want Nas. Nas is the one they chose. Rakim should be, since he was king of N.Y. back in 1988 through 1991, but now it's Nas. Biggies gone, his crown was buried with him, but the people are ready for a new king, so a new crown is made for Nas, as until Jigga can top Ether, the people follow Nas. I don't think Jigga is as popular in N.Y. anymore. It seemed people were waiting for an Ether to come out, so that Jigga can get knock off a throne he assumed, as oppose to being awarded by the people. After all, the people put Biggie up there, and now they want Nas. Case Close.