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Quote from: Shallow on April 04, 2006, 08:06:50 AMQuote from: Trauma on April 03, 2006, 10:55:26 PMThat estrada guy was doing a dead on imitation of Ric Flair, anybody catch that? Mannerisms were all identical.Hulk Hogan was supposed to challenge or work something with Austin, he mentioned it last week. Austin took a low blow @ Hogan at the hall of fame ceremony saturday, and then tonight, neither one of them showed up on t.v. Wonder what happened?Now, I'll bet 5 bucks it was Austin. Remember when he no showed last time he was supposed to work a match with someone about a year ago? Also, WWE pumped "Hogan Knows Best" in a banner at the bottom of the screen towards the end of the night... they wouldn't have promoted it if Hogan had no showed. Also, there were several banners of superstars hanging from the rafters, one was of Hogan.Did you notice that WWE was stretching for time all night? For instance, just before the Chavo part, they showed a recap of the entire first hour. They showed every match, and what happened with every match. Then, Chavo came out and did a long drawn out promo about Eddie, although it didn't make any sense and was way too long compared to the other more important angles on the show. They then showed another segment with him backstage afterwards, and then when Flair came out, he was clearly stretching for time as well... talking about the great matches he'd had in Chicago, etc. They even showed a classic Flair match before Flair came out. Come on. This was all shit they added at the last minute to make up for the the Austin/Hogan bit not happening. Even with all the stretching and stalling, Triple H still finished the main event about 2 or 3 minutes early, then they spent tons of time with him after the match, even showing a replay of the finish. Then they showed him standing on the ramp for about a minute and a half. Totally fucked up show, the Jamal shit is just stupid, why in the hell they would go with that gimmick... AGAIN, is beyond me. I caught the Estrada and I noticed he was a a very Cuban Ric Flair. The "ha" was very old Flair-like. As for low-blowing Hogan, I saw Bret Hart on TV yesterday and he talked about how when he first won the title and saw Hogan he went up to him backstage to shake his hand (I guess Hogan was visiting) and Hogan ignored him for 5 minutes until Bret walked away, and Bret said it felt good to snub Hogan at the Hall of Fame.And if they needed to kill time, here's a revolutionary idea; get two wrestlers in there to have a match.Bret Hart is a psychopath. So I wouldn't entirely trust anything he says. For instance, he keeps insisting that he swore the day that he quit that he would never work for Vince again, so he turned down pay to appear at the Hall of Fame. Funny that he didn't turn down the pay Vince is giving him to do the Hart DVD, and he didn't have any problems touring the entire world to promote the DVD. It's also funny that he's allowing Vince to sell "Bret Hart" t-shirts at live events and on WWE.com... but, he's not working for them, right? Such a fucking hypocrite. Plus, he said in his speech "I swore that night, that if they ever wanted me to join the hall of fame, I'd be here". Yeah. I'm sure he thought of it that night. To close, his continued bitterness towards Shawn Michaels, who was doing what he was told, and his ability to work for Vince McMahon, the guy who told Shawn to do it, makes absolutely no fucking sense. I think Bret had mental issues long before Goldberg kicked him in the head.
Quote from: Trauma on April 03, 2006, 10:55:26 PMThat estrada guy was doing a dead on imitation of Ric Flair, anybody catch that? Mannerisms were all identical.Hulk Hogan was supposed to challenge or work something with Austin, he mentioned it last week. Austin took a low blow @ Hogan at the hall of fame ceremony saturday, and then tonight, neither one of them showed up on t.v. Wonder what happened?Now, I'll bet 5 bucks it was Austin. Remember when he no showed last time he was supposed to work a match with someone about a year ago? Also, WWE pumped "Hogan Knows Best" in a banner at the bottom of the screen towards the end of the night... they wouldn't have promoted it if Hogan had no showed. Also, there were several banners of superstars hanging from the rafters, one was of Hogan.Did you notice that WWE was stretching for time all night? For instance, just before the Chavo part, they showed a recap of the entire first hour. They showed every match, and what happened with every match. Then, Chavo came out and did a long drawn out promo about Eddie, although it didn't make any sense and was way too long compared to the other more important angles on the show. They then showed another segment with him backstage afterwards, and then when Flair came out, he was clearly stretching for time as well... talking about the great matches he'd had in Chicago, etc. They even showed a classic Flair match before Flair came out. Come on. This was all shit they added at the last minute to make up for the the Austin/Hogan bit not happening. Even with all the stretching and stalling, Triple H still finished the main event about 2 or 3 minutes early, then they spent tons of time with him after the match, even showing a replay of the finish. Then they showed him standing on the ramp for about a minute and a half. Totally fucked up show, the Jamal shit is just stupid, why in the hell they would go with that gimmick... AGAIN, is beyond me. I caught the Estrada and I noticed he was a a very Cuban Ric Flair. The "ha" was very old Flair-like. As for low-blowing Hogan, I saw Bret Hart on TV yesterday and he talked about how when he first won the title and saw Hogan he went up to him backstage to shake his hand (I guess Hogan was visiting) and Hogan ignored him for 5 minutes until Bret walked away, and Bret said it felt good to snub Hogan at the Hall of Fame.And if they needed to kill time, here's a revolutionary idea; get two wrestlers in there to have a match.
That estrada guy was doing a dead on imitation of Ric Flair, anybody catch that? Mannerisms were all identical.Hulk Hogan was supposed to challenge or work something with Austin, he mentioned it last week. Austin took a low blow @ Hogan at the hall of fame ceremony saturday, and then tonight, neither one of them showed up on t.v. Wonder what happened?Now, I'll bet 5 bucks it was Austin. Remember when he no showed last time he was supposed to work a match with someone about a year ago? Also, WWE pumped "Hogan Knows Best" in a banner at the bottom of the screen towards the end of the night... they wouldn't have promoted it if Hogan had no showed. Also, there were several banners of superstars hanging from the rafters, one was of Hogan.Did you notice that WWE was stretching for time all night? For instance, just before the Chavo part, they showed a recap of the entire first hour. They showed every match, and what happened with every match. Then, Chavo came out and did a long drawn out promo about Eddie, although it didn't make any sense and was way too long compared to the other more important angles on the show. They then showed another segment with him backstage afterwards, and then when Flair came out, he was clearly stretching for time as well... talking about the great matches he'd had in Chicago, etc. They even showed a classic Flair match before Flair came out. Come on. This was all shit they added at the last minute to make up for the the Austin/Hogan bit not happening. Even with all the stretching and stalling, Triple H still finished the main event about 2 or 3 minutes early, then they spent tons of time with him after the match, even showing a replay of the finish. Then they showed him standing on the ramp for about a minute and a half. Totally fucked up show, the Jamal shit is just stupid, why in the hell they would go with that gimmick... AGAIN, is beyond me.
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At least shawn was enough of a man to tell Bret, FACE TO FACE, upfront. Bret wouldn't job to Hogan. He never did, never would, and Hogan wouldn't either. What's wrong with that? It's how they both felt. It's the TRUTH.
He became very bitter (regardless of what he says, it's in his demeanor) and is a shell of the man he once was.
Quote from: -Sikotic- on April 04, 2006, 07:19:51 PM He became very bitter (regardless of what he says, it's in his demeanor) and is a shell of the man he once was. Are you surprised by that? Just look at it.. After Montreal, at a time where he probaly felt betrayed and whatnot, his whole life took a downward spiral.. He was misused in WCW, then lost his brother, lost his parents, sufferd a career ending injury, witnessed deaths of other close wrestling friends/family (Bulldog etc), had a stroke (he could have been dead too)... to me itīs no surprise that he is broken down.. and I donīt even think that it has anything to do with Shawn.. I think he never got over the deaths of his family members... but whatever.. I just hope that one day he really can overcome all that crap...
And how could anyone see Bret as a traitor? He was the one that wanted to stay with WWF all the time, then Vince says that he canīt afford the deal anymore and that Bret would be better off in WCW. I think itīs his good right to demand a proper finish to his WWE career. Thatīs why other top people have their fucking creative control in the last month.
Well sure, he has the right to be upset. It doesn't mean he has to be. Anyways, it looks like he's taking steps in the right direction by collaborating with the WWE again. Good for him.
Well, yeah in theory he deserved to go out his way, but this was 1997 man. The environment was alot different.....there was actually competition and Bret was going to that competition. Can I blame Vince for what he did? Nah. Business is business and Vince tried to milk everything he could out of his once prized employee before he walked off to the enemy. I bet if Bret didn't demand that he retain the title at SS 97 that the screwjob would of never occured.