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Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« on: September 03, 2006, 05:09:43 AM »
Hulk Hogan



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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2006, 06:46:22 AM »
I've never really liked HH, he was boring as fuck.
 

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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2006, 07:52:23 AM »
I've never really liked HH, he was boring as fuck.

just watch the videos... See Hogan use chain wrestling, top rope axe handles, and totally ENRAGE a younger, more athletic Andre the Giant.
 

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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2006, 10:32:25 AM »
Jimmy "Fly" Snuka, the best ever baby!   8)
 

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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2006, 11:30:40 AM »
Not the greatest wrestler by a long shot

An average wrestler at best -

What he is though is perhaps the greatest entertainer with the most charisma and is the biggest ever draw in wrestling

He has been carried by far superior wrestlers - like Hansen, Di Biase, Savage - in his best matches
 

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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2006, 01:57:25 PM »
Not the greatest wrestler by a long shot

An average wrestler at best -

What he is though is perhaps the greatest entertainer with the most charisma and is the biggest ever draw in wrestling

He has been carried by far superior wrestlers - like Hansen, Di Biase, Savage - in his best matches
 

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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2006, 03:22:06 PM »
yip great entertainer but the guy knew like 4 wrestling moves.
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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2006, 03:36:05 PM »
yip great entertainer but the guy knew like 4 wrestling moves.

did you watch the videos. Watch Andre/Hogan from Japan, the opening to the first one was classic.

People are all critics, without watching evidence. If Hogan wrestled like this in America, Hulkamania would have took off with the Flair/Hart lovers too.
 

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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2006, 04:19:38 PM »
when it comes to mic skills and charisma that's has been the rock




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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2006, 06:18:48 PM »
Professional Wrestling is entirely, 100% about putting on a good show.  Nobody has ever done that better than Hulk Hogan, Period.  He is the greatest professional wrestler of all time, everyone else is standing in his shadow, and most of them are bitching about it.  Hogan is such an incredible performer he can do 3 moves in a match and have the crowd screaming his name, children crying, and men getting his image tattoo'd on their back.  He is such an incredible performer mere mortals often can't comprehend his greatness, this thread is a good example.  Ric Flair cannot carry Hulk Hogan's boots to the ring; Ric Flair knows this, and consistantly jobs to Hulk Hogan anytime he's required to.  Randy Savage was 1 third the pro wrestler Hulk Hogan is today, when Randy was in his prime. 

Now if you want to talk about Athletes, Randy Savage is 3 times the athlete Hogan is.  We're not talking about that.  If you want to talk about wrestlers, Randy Savage could wrestle circles around Hulk Hogan.  We're not talking about that either. 

We're talking about a man excelling at his craft, in his arena (literally!) nobody has ever even came close to Hogan's longevity, his charisma, and the sheer love and adoration the fans have for him.  NOBODY.  He will go down in history not only as the greatest of all time, but in 100 years people will talk about him like he was a god and could never have actually existed. 
 

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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2006, 07:01:22 PM »
Professional Wrestling is entirely, 100% about putting on a good show.  Nobody has ever done that better than Hulk Hogan, Period.  He is the greatest professional wrestler of all time, everyone else is standing in his shadow, and most of them are bitching about it.  Hogan is such an incredible performer he can do 3 moves in a match and have the crowd screaming his name, children crying, and men getting his image tattoo'd on their back.  He is such an incredible performer mere mortals often can't comprehend his greatness, this thread is a good example.  Ric Flair cannot carry Hulk Hogan's boots to the ring; Ric Flair knows this, and consistantly jobs to Hulk Hogan anytime he's required to.  Randy Savage was 1 third the pro wrestler Hulk Hogan is today, when Randy was in his prime. 

Now if you want to talk about Athletes, Randy Savage is 3 times the athlete Hogan is.  We're not talking about that.  If you want to talk about wrestlers, Randy Savage could wrestle circles around Hulk Hogan.  We're not talking about that either. 

We're talking about a man excelling at his craft, in his arena (literally!) nobody has ever even came close to Hogan's longevity, his charisma, and the sheer love and adoration the fans have for him.  NOBODY.  He will go down in history not only as the greatest of all time, but in 100 years people will talk about him like he was a god and could never have actually existed. 

Spot on! Has he been inducted into the Hall of Fame yet?

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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2006, 07:17:05 PM »
Jimmy "Fly" Snuka, the best ever baby!   8)

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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2006, 09:19:28 PM »
yip great entertainer but the guy knew like 4 wrestling moves.

did you watch the videos. Watch Andre/Hogan from Japan, the opening to the first one was classic.

People are all critics, without watching evidence. If Hogan wrestled like this in America, Hulkamania would have took off with the Flair/Hart lovers too.


I've seen dozens og Hogan matches from Japan and while he was much better there than his US work he's far from amazing, or great. He was good at best. He could be carried very well and have great matches with amazing wrestlers but when he had to do the carrying the match was never better than pretty good. Comparing his inring ability to someone like Harley Race, Jumbo Tsuruta, or Ric Flair is ridiculous. These guys could keep fans on the esge of their seats for an hour long match. Hogan could never do that. He shines only in short matches. Hogan/Bundy was 10 minutes. Hoga/Andre was 12 minutes. Hogan/Savage was 18 minutes but completely rehearesed and scripted. Hogan/Warrior was over 20 at 22 minutes and his only great long WWF match. His next 20 plus minute match with Slaughter sucked. These were his long matches. Race and Flair would do hour marathons on house shows and draw with the local champ to put them over.

There is also another side to it; making other wrestlers. Flair and Race have made dozens of second rate wrestlers look like stars, and made a bunch of good wreslters into superstars. Sting and David Flair were both made in one night. Who has Hogan made? Warrior? Warrior was already huge and actually ended up worse after beating Hogan. Kiddman? I don't think so. Even as a heel Hogan never made anyone a star.

He's a great star and a huge part of the business and did everything he was supposed to do. As usual Trauma goes a bit overboard. Hogan will be as popular in 2106 as Jack Dempsey is today, but for the historians Hogan will always be a huge part of a big boom in wrestling history and won't be forgotten. If Mickey Mantle or Joe DiMaggio are only slightly remebered by today's pop cutlure then Hogan stands no chance in 100 years.
 

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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2006, 01:04:02 AM »
Hulk is the greatest entertainer in pro wrestling easily. Better than The Rock, better than Austin, even better than Flair. He's a very smart man. He plays his cards right and makes everything work in his favor. Gotta give him kudos.
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Re: Maybe the greatest wrestler ever
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2006, 06:05:21 AM »
yip great entertainer but the guy knew like 4 wrestling moves.

did you watch the videos. Watch Andre/Hogan from Japan, the opening to the first one was classic.

People are all critics, without watching evidence. If Hogan wrestled like this in America, Hulkamania would have took off with the Flair/Hart lovers too.


I've seen dozens og Hogan matches from Japan and while he was much better there than his US work he's far from amazing, or great. He was good at best. He could be carried very well and have great matches with amazing wrestlers but when he had to do the carrying the match was never better than pretty good. Comparing his inring ability to someone like Harley Race, Jumbo Tsuruta, or Ric Flair is ridiculous. These guys could keep fans on the esge of their seats for an hour long match. Hogan could never do that. He shines only in short matches. Hogan/Bundy was 10 minutes. Hoga/Andre was 12 minutes. Hogan/Savage was 18 minutes but completely rehearesed and scripted. Hogan/Warrior was over 20 at 22 minutes and his only great long WWF match. His next 20 plus minute match with Slaughter sucked. These were his long matches. Race and Flair would do hour marathons on house shows and draw with the local champ to put them over.

There is also another side to it; making other wrestlers. Flair and Race have made dozens of second rate wrestlers look like stars, and made a bunch of good wreslters into superstars. Sting and David Flair were both made in one night. Who has Hogan made? Warrior? Warrior was already huge and actually ended up worse after beating Hogan. Kiddman? I don't think so. Even as a heel Hogan never made anyone a star.

He's a great star and a huge part of the business and did everything he was supposed to do. As usual Trauma goes a bit overboard. Hogan will be as popular in 2106 as Jack Dempsey is today, but for the historians Hogan will always be a huge part of a big boom in wrestling history and won't be forgotten. If Mickey Mantle or Joe DiMaggio are only slightly remebered by today's pop cutlure then Hogan stands no chance in 100 years.


bow down i understand what u are trying to say but i gotta agree with this, the title of the thread is the greatest wrestler of all time, and hogan simply wasnt that good a wrestler. yeah u can say the stuff he done in japan but was he performing moves in japan like kurt angle does today? he also cant find submission moves out of nothing like chris benoit can.
no doubt he is perhaps the greatest entertainer in proffesional wrestlings history and only few have come close( rock, flair, jericho) but the guy didnt have the all round game to him
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