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Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« on: December 26, 2006, 08:18:56 PM »
It wouldn't be Christmas without a Shaq-Kobe feud, and now it seems Phil Jackson wants in on the tradition.

Jackson, who once upon a time seemed to favor his star center over his star shooting guard, on Sunday called out O'Neal, saying he was "the only person I've ever had that hasn't been a worker."

Shaq, who is rarely at a loss for words, was asked about Jackson's comments on Monday following Miami's 101-85 win over O'Neal's former team.

"How can Benedict Arnold be reliable in what he says?" the Big Aristotle was quoted as saying in Tuesday's edition of The Los Angeles Times. O'Neal declined to elaborate on his statement and, since he was in street clothes for the game, was not required to give a formal post-game interview.

O'Neal and Bryant had been feuding since O'Neal's trade to Miami following the 2003-04 season. But last year the two superstars stated publicly that they had reconciled their differences.

Then came Jackson's comments on Sunday.

"He's the one guy that didn't really like to work," said the coach who boasts nine NBA championship rings. "I know Pat [Riley] got him working here in Miami. We had a hard time getting him to work. All the other players -- Michael [Jordan], Scottie [Pippen], Dennis Rodman, all those guys that we had, Horace Grant, they're all hard-working practice and personal work players."

Of course, O'Neal was not the only player Jackson prodded. Speaking about Dwyane Wade, Shaq's new partner in crime and last year's NBA Finals MVP, Jackson said, "He travels on that spin move. He picks up that pivot foot … everybody knows it. Dwyane Wade can cover so much ground when he makes that move. As you know, he can go 20 feet with that spin move and get to the basket."

While Jackson's comments are sure to refuel a media frenzy that was threatening to die down, it did little to help his team, which has lost three of five.

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2006, 08:32:28 PM »
It sounds like Phil has a case of the "Now I Knows"
 

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2006, 08:45:04 PM »
Watch everyone come in here and call Shaq childish or whatever, yet ignore the fact that he was merely retaliating at what was said about him by Phil.
 

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2006, 08:48:49 PM »
Watch everyone come in here and call Shaq childish or whatever, yet ignore the fact that he was merely retaliating at what was said about him by Phil.
oh you already know thats going to happen...no doubt about it
 

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2006, 09:27:25 PM »

LOL @ fatboy calling anyone "Benedict Arnold"


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Isn't it fascinating how Stan Van Gundy has been censored by Pat Riley? After Riles teamed with Shaq to get Stan fired last season, the organization attempted to put the "Stan wants to spend more time with his family" on the situation....
 
Of course, Van Gundy had only been in the league 15 years, so there was no way for him to know there would be travel and long stretches away from his family. When he was named head coach of the Heat, it must have been shocking for him to realize all the games weren't played at home....
The most nauseating memory of the press conference announcing Van Gundy's "resignation" was Riles choking back tears as he spoke about his "close friend" stepping down....
 
That's like the guy releasing the Guillitoine fighting back tears as his "close friend's" head rolled across the floor....
 
Greg Stoda of the Palm Beach Post has a great column explaining all of this, and it is a must read for anyone who believes Riles and Shaq had nothing to do with Van Gundy leaving and it was simply a matter of Stan missing his family....
 
These two backstabbers worked together behind the scenes to remove Van Gundy and it's a damn shame the two of them were rewarded with an NBA Championship....
 
A few days ago, Van Gundy told Stoda he'd be willing to do an interview "if the team agreed to it."....
 
Say what? Who in the hell is Pat Riley to tell Stan Van Gundy whom he can and cannot interview with? Stan is a grown man and should be free to speak freely about how Riley backstabbed him....
 
So what if he loses his job as a "consultant?" Van Gundy is respected around the NBA and would find another job the same day. And he could also finally hold his head up with pride again...
 
What is this, Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union? Benedict Riley is the sole arbiter of whether Stan Van Gundy is allowed to speak?....
 
Maybe his new name should be Adolf Riley....
 
Three years ago, Van Gundy did a magnificent job cleaning up Riley's mess and turned a disastrous start into a 42-40 finish, a first round playoff win and nearly a trip to the NBA Finals. And this was with Dwyane Wade, Lamar Odom and Caron Butler, not the Big Ingrate....
 
The reason for Van Gundy's success? Completely junking Riley's non-sensicle grind-it-out offense and allowing Wade and Co. to get up and down the floor....
 
Riles quit on his team early right before the season and put his "close friend" in a real bind, but Stan turned a potential disaster into a tremendous coaching job....
 
The next season, the Heat made the Shaq deal and won 53 games, only to lose to the Pistons in seven games in the Eastern Finals....
 
Even though he disappeared in the second half of Game Seven, grabbing only two rebounds and playing no defense, the Big Moses ripped into his coach after the game, saying the team lost "because I didn't get the ball enough."....
 
Instead of defending his "good friend" and telling the Big Excuse" to shut his trap, Riley told the press he was "going to get more involved on the coaching end next season."....
 
I went on the air ane next afternoon and announced Van Gundy was finished and would be fired "over the summer or early next season."....
 
Riley wanted to s***-can Van Gundy right away, but the backlash from the media was so strong that he had to back down. He was lambasted for not supporting his coach and was portrayed as a backstabbing weasel out to take Stan's job away....
 
All of this was true, of course....
 
Last season, with Shaq injured and the Heat off to a slow start, Benedict Riley saw the opportunity he'd been planning for and fired Van Gundy....
 
Benedict was green with envy that Van Gundy had won big with a group of players he couldn't win with and wanted to be the coach who won a championship with the Heat....
 
So it off with Stan's head and Benedict stoel the coaching seat....
 

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2006, 11:00:41 PM »
It sounds like Phil has a case of the "Now I Knows"

haha
Oh I like this one... One dog goes one way, the other dog goes the other way, and this guy's sayin', "Whadda ya want from me?

 

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2006, 11:36:42 PM »

LOL @ fatboy calling anyone "Benedict Arnold"


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Isn't it fascinating how Stan Van Gundy has been censored by Pat Riley? After Riles teamed with Shaq to get Stan fired last season, the organization attempted to put the "Stan wants to spend more time with his family" on the situation....
 
Of course, Van Gundy had only been in the league 15 years, so there was no way for him to know there would be travel and long stretches away from his family. When he was named head coach of the Heat, it must have been shocking for him to realize all the games weren't played at home....
The most nauseating memory of the press conference announcing Van Gundy's "resignation" was Riles choking back tears as he spoke about his "close friend" stepping down....
 
That's like the guy releasing the Guillitoine fighting back tears as his "close friend's" head rolled across the floor....
 
Greg Stoda of the Palm Beach Post has a great column explaining all of this, and it is a must read for anyone who believes Riles and Shaq had nothing to do with Van Gundy leaving and it was simply a matter of Stan missing his family....
 
These two backstabbers worked together behind the scenes to remove Van Gundy and it's a damn shame the two of them were rewarded with an NBA Championship....
 
A few days ago, Van Gundy told Stoda he'd be willing to do an interview "if the team agreed to it."....
 
Say what? Who in the hell is Pat Riley to tell Stan Van Gundy whom he can and cannot interview with? Stan is a grown man and should be free to speak freely about how Riley backstabbed him....
 
So what if he loses his job as a "consultant?" Van Gundy is respected around the NBA and would find another job the same day. And he could also finally hold his head up with pride again...
 
What is this, Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union? Benedict Riley is the sole arbiter of whether Stan Van Gundy is allowed to speak?....
 
Maybe his new name should be Adolf Riley....
 
Three years ago, Van Gundy did a magnificent job cleaning up Riley's mess and turned a disastrous start into a 42-40 finish, a first round playoff win and nearly a trip to the NBA Finals. And this was with Dwyane Wade, Lamar Odom and Caron Butler, not the Big Ingrate....
 
The reason for Van Gundy's success? Completely junking Riley's non-sensicle grind-it-out offense and allowing Wade and Co. to get up and down the floor....
 
Riles quit on his team early right before the season and put his "close friend" in a real bind, but Stan turned a potential disaster into a tremendous coaching job....
 
The next season, the Heat made the Shaq deal and won 53 games, only to lose to the Pistons in seven games in the Eastern Finals....
 
Even though he disappeared in the second half of Game Seven, grabbing only two rebounds and playing no defense, the Big Moses ripped into his coach after the game, saying the team lost "because I didn't get the ball enough."....
 
Instead of defending his "good friend" and telling the Big Excuse" to shut his trap, Riley told the press he was "going to get more involved on the coaching end next season."....
 
I went on the air ane next afternoon and announced Van Gundy was finished and would be fired "over the summer or early next season."....
 
Riley wanted to s***-can Van Gundy right away, but the backlash from the media was so strong that he had to back down. He was lambasted for not supporting his coach and was portrayed as a backstabbing weasel out to take Stan's job away....
 
All of this was true, of course....
 
Last season, with Shaq injured and the Heat off to a slow start, Benedict Riley saw the opportunity he'd been planning for and fired Van Gundy....
 
Benedict was green with envy that Van Gundy had won big with a group of players he couldn't win with and wanted to be the coach who won a championship with the Heat....
 
So it off with Stan's head and Benedict stoel the coaching seat....

Nice strawman argument.
 

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2006, 11:38:25 PM »
Watch everyone come in here and call Shaq childish or whatever, yet ignore the fact that he was merely retaliating at what was said about him by Phil.
oh you already know thats going to happen...no doubt about it

I think Phil should keep his mouth shut and so should Shaq..But i guarantee you Shaq was lazy as fuck in pratice, yall cant deny that shit..But no Reason for Phil to be talking about Shaq and vice versa, just let it go

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2006, 11:39:05 PM »
It sounds like Phil has a case of the "Now I Knows"

what does that mean?  ???

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2006, 01:42:54 AM »
Shaq's comments are always funny, but not really interesting.
 

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2006, 01:44:30 AM »
Shaq acts like he was the best thing that happened to Phil carreer, isn't it the contrary ?  :-X
 

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2006, 02:29:09 AM »
Why don't you play a few games before you start saying ANYTHING, Snaq?  Only reason Shaq even knew about that Benedict reference was because he read about Benedict Riley on ESPN.  Love who you're with, right Shaquille?
 

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2006, 05:01:32 AM »
Shaq thinks he is alot smarter than he really is. But honestly I am sick of hearing about all this, its time everyone moves on, it is getting real old.
 

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2006, 11:35:10 AM »
It's mind games. Phil is the master of it, but this time his comments sound like some taking shots type shit. But he did the same to Kobe when he was not coaching. NBA- NOTHING BUT ACTORS. ;)
 

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Re: Shaq calls Phil Jackson "Benedict Arnold"
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2006, 12:32:18 PM »
Watch everyone come in here and call Shaq childish or whatever, yet ignore the fact that he was merely retaliating at what was said about him by Phil.


Can you read? Phil is 10x the person Shaq will ever be, he was merely speaking truth... Shaq, being the child he is, retaliated with a personal diss and name-calling. What's new though? He's always been known as an overgrown, immature baby...PeACe