I'm a Satanist...

[Shallow]

basically satanist teaching just means "survival of the fittest" and "treat others as they treat you", based on an atheistic point of view... if i remember correctly, "Satanism" was the chosen wording because it is the exact opposite of christianity, not because of Satan the god

See I just can't agree with that. Whether I was religious or not with regards to a creator and his return to earth, I would always feel it is the right thing to help people in need and aid them in survival whether they are fit or not, and I will always treat other as I want to be treated (or at least try my best to) and not worry about how I am treated by others.

It's like my philosophy on respect. I show respect. I don't worry about getting it because I can't control what others do. And I'd never take it because you never really have it. I just worry about showing respect and let the rest work itself out. So far it's worked just fine.

well like if i meet someone for the first time, im not gonna be arrogant or anything like that... im nice and respectful and caring until a) they start to treat me like shit or b) treat themselves like shit... i dont walk around with my nose high up in the air, i just treat people the way they treat others, let them see what its like

I may teach people a lesson for their own sake on little things. But if someone is just being an asshole I just brush it off. It doesn't really bother me.

Also, treat others as they treat you can be very dangerous in weak minds. If someone tries to kill you or your family does that mean you should try and kill him and his family? To a logical human the answer is no, but some may not be so logical.

well logic in this sense is also opinion, not fact... to me it would be logical to kill him, and illogical not to... it works both ways... its funny how religion has hardly anything to do with fact, its 99% opinion if not more

Now it's one thing to kill a man in the heat of the moment. But to intentionally go out in cold blood and murder someone is wrong and illegal for a reason. It is very logical to assume that if you aren't in direct life threatening danger you shouldn't kill. And even if he had killed your family, it is also very logical to know that killing the murderer will not bring them back.

like i said, its all opinion... i believe its ok, i believe its logical... and killing them will make me happier knowing that ive avenged their deaths... i just realized now how many rappers claim to be christians when theyre pretty much satanists

It's not an opinion to think it's wrong or not. It's just wrong. You're just more comfortable with revenge murder because of the way it's romanticized in society. If someone raped in murdered your 5 year old son and you believe in treat other how they treat you, would you go rape and murder his 5 year old son? I'm just going to assume you wouldn't. Why? Because raping young boys has no glory behind it in today's society. If that style of revenge was programmed into the minds of the young as being cool then you'd see a lot more people agreeing with something so sick. But the righteous will always oppose it.

no i would not rape his son, i'd just kill him... his son doesnt deserve to be killed, just him... and yes, right/wrong is opinion, it goes along with other beliefs... i learnt that a few days ago

Something being right and something appeasing your own emotions don't go hand in hand. You said in the first post that you should treat others as they treat you. The man rapes your son, you rape his, or atleast rape him. Of course raping or killing him solves nothing. Any man that rapes young children has a mental illness that needs to be studied. I'd have the man examined and put through immense therapy and testing. If we find nothing then for the sake of humanity as a whole I'd have him disected in order to see if a cure can be found and millions of children over the course of the coming centuries would be saved, as well as all those unfortunate enough to have the disease. In my solution we come one step forward in stopping something so vile forever. In your solution you just feel better about yourself and get to stick your chest out and call yourself a man.


What about accidents, where does your Satanism stand on someone thar accidentally hits your son with a car and kills him? Would you want that man dead too?

Have you ever been related to someone who was brutally raped and murdered?  Your idealistic picture sounds beautiful but it's not realistic.

That's it right there and you said it; idealistic: meaning the right thing. We are talking about right and wrong. I don't know what I would do in my time of grief or anger. I'm not saying I'm certain I wouldn't kill the man or be glad he was killed. Maybe I would, but I'd be wrong just the same even if I thought I was right. Thinking you are right and being right are two different things. And when you look at the situation objectively you can see that.

[Shawn Nutt]

That's it right there and you said it; idealistic: meaning the right thing. We are talking about right and wrong. I don't know what I would do in my time of grief or anger. I'm not saying I'm certain I wouldn't kill the man or be glad he was killed. Maybe I would, but I'd be wrong just the same even if I thought I was right. Thinking you are right and being right are two different things. And when you look at the situation objectively you can see that.

Yes, but like I said, there is no proven right and wrong... look at it this way...

Where does right/wrong come from? God. Well, not everyone believes in God. So where does it come from according to me? A God that doesn't exist, meaning it didn't come from anywhere, because there is no God and no right/wrong. Yes, you believe that there is a right and wrong, and you believe that killing someone is wrong. Then you should say "i BELIEVE it is wrong", not "is IS wrong"... there is a difference between a belief in something and stating it as a proven fact. Right/Wrong has not been proven to exist, so until then, it is only belief.

[jeromechickenbone]

basically satanist teaching just means "survival of the fittest" and "treat others as they treat you", based on an atheistic point of view... if i remember correctly, "Satanism" was the chosen wording because it is the exact opposite of christianity, not because of Satan the god

See I just can't agree with that. Whether I was religious or not with regards to a creator and his return to earth, I would always feel it is the right thing to help people in need and aid them in survival whether they are fit or not, and I will always treat other as I want to be treated (or at least try my best to) and not worry about how I am treated by others.

It's like my philosophy on respect. I show respect. I don't worry about getting it because I can't control what others do. And I'd never take it because you never really have it. I just worry about showing respect and let the rest work itself out. So far it's worked just fine.

well like if i meet someone for the first time, im not gonna be arrogant or anything like that... im nice and respectful and caring until a) they start to treat me like shit or b) treat themselves like shit... i dont walk around with my nose high up in the air, i just treat people the way they treat others, let them see what its like

I may teach people a lesson for their own sake on little things. But if someone is just being an asshole I just brush it off. It doesn't really bother me.

Also, treat others as they treat you can be very dangerous in weak minds. If someone tries to kill you or your family does that mean you should try and kill him and his family? To a logical human the answer is no, but some may not be so logical.

well logic in this sense is also opinion, not fact... to me it would be logical to kill him, and illogical not to... it works both ways... its funny how religion has hardly anything to do with fact, its 99% opinion if not more

Now it's one thing to kill a man in the heat of the moment. But to intentionally go out in cold blood and murder someone is wrong and illegal for a reason. It is very logical to assume that if you aren't in direct life threatening danger you shouldn't kill. And even if he had killed your family, it is also very logical to know that killing the murderer will not bring them back.

like i said, its all opinion... i believe its ok, i believe its logical... and killing them will make me happier knowing that ive avenged their deaths... i just realized now how many rappers claim to be christians when theyre pretty much satanists

It's not an opinion to think it's wrong or not. It's just wrong. You're just more comfortable with revenge murder because of the way it's romanticized in society. If someone raped in murdered your 5 year old son and you believe in treat other how they treat you, would you go rape and murder his 5 year old son? I'm just going to assume you wouldn't. Why? Because raping young boys has no glory behind it in today's society. If that style of revenge was programmed into the minds of the young as being cool then you'd see a lot more people agreeing with something so sick. But the righteous will always oppose it.

no i would not rape his son, i'd just kill him... his son doesnt deserve to be killed, just him... and yes, right/wrong is opinion, it goes along with other beliefs... i learnt that a few days ago

Something being right and something appeasing your own emotions don't go hand in hand. You said in the first post that you should treat others as they treat you. The man rapes your son, you rape his, or atleast rape him. Of course raping or killing him solves nothing. Any man that rapes young children has a mental illness that needs to be studied. I'd have the man examined and put through immense therapy and testing. If we find nothing then for the sake of humanity as a whole I'd have him disected in order to see if a cure can be found and millions of children over the course of the coming centuries would be saved, as well as all those unfortunate enough to have the disease. In my solution we come one step forward in stopping something so vile forever. In your solution you just feel better about yourself and get to stick your chest out and call yourself a man.


What about accidents, where does your Satanism stand on someone thar accidentally hits your son with a car and kills him? Would you want that man dead too?

Have you ever been related to someone who was brutally raped and murdered?  Your idealistic picture sounds beautiful but it's not realistic.

That's it right there and you said it; idealistic: meaning the right thing. We are talking about right and wrong. I don't know what I would do in my time of grief or anger. I'm not saying I'm certain I wouldn't kill the man or be glad he was killed. Maybe I would, but I'd be wrong just the same even if I thought I was right. Thinking you are right and being right are two different things. And when you look at the situation objectively you can see that.

Yes, it is idealistic.  Like most things categorized as idealistic, it sounds good in a political forum but loses it's flare when put into practice.  And 9 times outta 10 the people imposing those ideoligies haven't been affected on a personal level, yet for some reason think they are qualified to make the rules for everybody else. 

[Scream @ Me]

whatever floats your boat, more power to you.