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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/20070430-0956-mexico-usa-.html

9:56 a.m. April 30, 2007

MEXICO CITY – Almost one in two Mexicans has a family member working in the United States, and a third of those were sent money in the past year, according to a survey published in Mexican daily El Universal Monday.
The poll of 1,000 people showed 45 percent had at least one relative across the border and 61 percent rated the money they send as “very important,” illustrating Mexico's reliance on remittances.


 Some 11 million Mexicans in the United States sent home a record $23 billion to their families last year – Mexico's second-biggest source of foreign currency after oil imports, even dwarfing the tourism industry.
Monday's survey showed immigration to the United States, much of it illegal, peaked during the 1990s, after Mexico was battered by an economic crisis.

Eight percent of those polled said they themselves had worked in the United States at some time.

As many as one in two people in Mexico live on less than $5 a day, and a lack of job opportunities prompts thousands to risk their lives crossing the border illegally each year.

Border arrests were down by just under a third in the first few months of this year but more than 150 immigrants have already died trying to cross over, mainly of heat exhaustion.

The United States is building a 700-mile fence along parts of its 2,000-mile border with Mexico and boosting security by adding trucks with infrared cameras, underground sensors that detect footsteps and surveillance drones
 

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Re: 1 out of 2 Mexicans have family members living in the United States
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2007, 06:40:36 PM »
Guess how many of them are serving with the military?  Or have sons and daughters serving? 
 

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Re: 1 out of 2 Mexicans have family members living in the United States
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2007, 06:50:31 PM »

Stop being played for a fool real american, you noted at the bottom that the fence is being built, we don't actually know when it's being built but aside from that it's 700 miles long yet the border is 2000 miles therefore this is complete P.R complete tokenism. in addition to this you have the minute men being demonised and attacked as white racists, even though a third of the minutemen are hispanic. There are millions and millions of mexicans who have flocked to the promised lands of america and by the way the official figures as is always the case, are deliberately understated and yet George Bush is essentially proposing a complete amnesty, if you look beyond the rhetoric, see what he is actually proposing. Add to this mix, the almost daily devaluing of the U.S dollar and what do you think is the end result? the U.S economy is being deliberately destroyed. Your beloved country is being deliberately brought down and your precious leader George Bush and the people that pull his strings within the administration are complicit in this. This is not the fault of the mexicans, who can blame them for wanting to escape the vile tyranny they have suffered in Mexico but the people allowing the open borders are fully aware of what the end result will be.

By the way I am talking about illegal immigrants not mexicans/hispanics who went through the proper channels and who are in america legally.

« Last Edit: April 30, 2007, 06:52:25 PM by virtuoso »
 

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Re: 1 out of 2 Mexicans have family members living in the United States
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2007, 07:10:57 PM »
I don't give a fuck how many mexicans are here as long as they're legal.
 

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Theres been illegal immigrants since the start of America.

It IS NOT making the economy worse.  If anything its making it better.

PEOPLE WERE SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING ABOUT THE IRISH WHEN THEY CAME TO THE US BECAUSE OF THEIR POTATO CROP FAILED.

IT WAS DURING THE 1800'S WHEN THIS WAS HAPPENING AND IT WASNT JUST A COUPLE OF IRISH THAT CAME IT WAS MILLIONS OF THEM.



ONE THING i dont get is that, they say that immigrants are taking american jobs, but when it comes to the military nobody says anything.  THE FIRST MARINE TO DIE IN IRAQ WASNT EVEN AN AMERICAN.  HE WAS FROM GUATEMALA.

THERE ARE 32,000 "Green card Soldiers" fighting the "war on terror".  NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. 

 




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Guess how many of them are serving with the military?  Or have sons and daughters serving? 
I don't think there are that many. You got any numbers?

Stop being played for a fool real american, you noted at the bottom that the fence is being built, we don't actually know when it's being built but aside from that it's 700 miles long yet the border is 2000 miles therefore this is complete P.R complete tokenism.
LOL. You are obviously unaware of how much of the border is unfit for crossing even without walls.
 

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there's some mexican dudes at work trying to do big crystal meth biz, that furiates you doesn't it Real American?
 

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fuck illeagals... We need to deport some leagals too.. I find it sad in 20 years whites will be minoritys in our own country in fact it makes me sick
 

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I don't know how replying in caps makes a point anymore decisive in fact it works completely the opposite way, as the retort was akin to grade school thinking. Referring to the irish contingent that flocked to the shores of america is extremely ignorant when trying to justify or deflect from the impact of illegal immigration. How many inhabitants were in america when the irish came and how many inhabit now, some estimates put the current population at over 300 million though I will need to read more into. In terms of the illegal immigrants from a short term perspective it does benefit the economy yes but it does not benefit the daily lives of ordinary americans it massively benefits the major corporations. Of course illegal immigrants get exploited but they are also used as the weapon of choice to stretch resources to breaking point, transport infrastrastructure, health care, welfare, plus in addition a massive wave of immigration has the effect of driving down wages. At the same time, the dollar is being devalued to equal something less than the cost of toilet paper, outsourcing continues rampantly for example even Haliburton are leaving the shores to relocate in Dubai and the very budgets themselves are being plundered to the tunes of trillions.

Teddy if that was the case then why are there 11 million illegal immigrants officially, which probably means double in reality because of the way in which figures are massaged and manipulated? why if it so incredibly difficult is that I know for a fact that in Texas that mexicans cross with alarming regularity by using the border towns?. As for the cops in Mexico, they always turn a blind eye to illegal immigration over the border and or are paid off because that country really is run by corrupt fucks making the United States look like a kindergarten.
 

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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/20070430-0956-mexico-usa-.html

9:56 a.m. April 30, 2007

MEXICO CITY – Almost one in two Mexicans has a family member working in the United States, and a third of those were sent money in the past year, according to a survey published in Mexican daily El Universal Monday.
The poll of 1,000 people showed 45 percent had at least one relative across the border and 61 percent rated the money they send as “very important,” illustrating Mexico's reliance on remittances.


 Some 11 million Mexicans in the United States sent home a record $23 billion to their families last year – Mexico's second-biggest source of foreign currency after oil imports, even dwarfing the tourism industry.
Monday's survey showed immigration to the United States, much of it illegal, peaked during the 1990s, after Mexico was battered by an economic crisis.

Eight percent of those polled said they themselves had worked in the United States at some time.

As many as one in two people in Mexico live on less than $5 a day, and a lack of job opportunities prompts thousands to risk their lives crossing the border illegally each year.

Border arrests were down by just under a third in the first few months of this year but more than 150 immigrants have already died trying to cross over, mainly of heat exhaustion.

The United States is building a 700-mile fence along parts of its 2,000-mile border with Mexico and boosting security by adding trucks with infrared cameras, underground sensors that detect footsteps and surveillance drones


do you tryin to make us hate mexicans or what ?
Yuz a fuckin racist !
 

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Re: 1 out of 2 Mexicans have family members living in the United States
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2007, 09:19:30 AM »

I don't know how replying in caps makes a point anymore decisive in fact it works completely the opposite way, as the retort was akin to grade school thinking. Referring to the irish contingent that flocked to the shores of america is extremely ignorant when trying to justify or deflect from the impact of illegal immigration. How many inhabitants were in america when the irish came and how many inhabit now, some estimates put the current population at over 300 million though I will need to read more into. In terms of the illegal immigrants from a short term perspective it does benefit the economy yes but it does not benefit the daily lives of ordinary americans it massively benefits the major corporations. Of course illegal immigrants get exploited but they are also used as the weapon of choice to stretch resources to breaking point, transport infrastrastructure, health care, welfare, plus in addition a massive wave of immigration has the effect of driving down wages. At the same time, the dollar is being devalued to equal something less than the cost of toilet paper, outsourcing continues rampantly for example even Haliburton are leaving the shores to relocate in Dubai and the very budgets themselves are being plundered to the tunes of trillions.

Teddy if that was the case then why are there 11 million illegal immigrants officially, which probably means double in reality because of the way in which figures are massaged and manipulated? why if it so incredibly difficult is that I know for a fact that in Texas that mexicans cross with alarming regularity by using the border towns?. As for the cops in Mexico, they always turn a blind eye to illegal immigration over the border and or are paid off because that country really is run by corrupt fucks making the United States look like a kindergarten.
In Mexico they actually encourage Mexicans to cross the border illegally. It's an easy way for them to deal with the the country's poverty and expand their influence in America. And you are right about border towns and such, but that is why they are building more wall and increasing security. A lot of the border is desert. The separate walls are used to force these immigrants to cross through the deserts, mountains, and other dangerous areas where they have a lower chance of making it across. Ideally an entire wall would be great, but politicians and activists alike will do everything they can to prevent that. But to say they are building 700 miles even though there is 2,000 miles on the border is ineffective take into account how much walls there already is (not sure, but I'll guess 500), plus the 700 they are building, which equals 1,200 miles plus the inhospitable terrain. Not bad when you consider the border patrol etc. Should there be more? IMHO yes. But that doesn't make the current plan ineffective.
 

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Re: 1 out of 2 Mexicans have family members living in the United States
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2007, 10:25:47 AM »
fuck illeagals... We need to deport some leagals too.. I find it sad in 20 years whites will be minoritys in our own country in fact it makes me sick

It's not your own country moron. Believe it or not there weren't any whites in America just over 600-700 years ago. You're all immigrants too just like the rest of us except you guys came a couple of years earlier. The color of your skin does not make you superior you idiot. The only difference between us is that we have females with "cakes" and not white girl pancakes.
 

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Re: 1 out of 2 Mexicans have family members living in the United States
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2007, 10:30:44 AM »

Fair point actually teddy but the funding has been set aside for the building of a wall the construction has not taken place yet and could ultimately be pure rhetoric, there will now just be a presumption that the wall will get built and thus the issue seemingly gone away. Aslo what really leaves a bad taste in the mouth, is the mexicans are fleeing a brutal and oppressive societal structure within Mexico and yet instead of the U.S denouncing the Mexican government., they pally up to the government there.
 

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Re: 1 out of 2 Mexicans have family members living in the United States
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2007, 11:00:59 AM »
It IS NOT making the economy worse.  If anything its making it better.

how the hell can taking money out a country make it better?

if money stays in the US its spent in the US.. if it leaves and is spent in mexico it makes mexico stronger
 

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Re: 1 out of 2 Mexicans have family members living in the United States
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2007, 11:07:17 AM »

Fair point actually teddy but the funding has been set aside for the building of a wall the construction has not taken place yet and could ultimately be pure rhetoric, there will now just be a presumption that the wall will get built and thus the issue seemingly gone away. Aslo what really leaves a bad taste in the mouth, is the mexicans are fleeing a brutal and oppressive societal structure within Mexico and yet instead of the U.S denouncing the Mexican government., they pally up to the government there.
So true. :stupid: