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Quote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:13:53 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:11:44 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:04:22 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 10:49:11 AM^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...JOI thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pickIndiana gets Odom and BynumCeltics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pickLakers get Kevin GarnettLooks like everyone wins in that deal.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:11:44 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:04:22 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 10:49:11 AM^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...JOI thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.
Quote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:04:22 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 10:49:11 AM^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...JOI thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 10:49:11 AM^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...JO
^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:31:07 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:13:53 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:11:44 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:04:22 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 10:49:11 AM^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...JOI thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pickIndiana gets Odom and BynumCeltics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pickLakers get Kevin GarnettLooks like everyone wins in that deal.Some A LOT more than others...
Quote from: Low Key on June 26, 2007, 11:46:00 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:31:07 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:13:53 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:11:44 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:04:22 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 10:49:11 AM^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...JOI thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pickIndiana gets Odom and BynumCeltics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pickLakers get Kevin GarnettLooks like everyone wins in that deal.Some A LOT more than others...IMO, Indiana wins the most...Anyways, looks like the Mavs are in the runnings now.http://www.dallasbasketball.com/newmainArticle.asp?id=170
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:48:39 AMQuote from: Low Key on June 26, 2007, 11:46:00 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:31:07 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:13:53 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:11:44 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:04:22 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 10:49:11 AM^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...JOI thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pickIndiana gets Odom and BynumCeltics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pickLakers get Kevin GarnettLooks like everyone wins in that deal.Some A LOT more than others...IMO, Indiana wins the most...Anyways, looks like the Mavs are in the runnings now.http://www.dallasbasketball.com/newmainArticle.asp?id=170Naw, the Celts and the Lakers get the best part of the deal. Indiana gets a decent trade. And the Wolves get shafted. Along with Garnett, either one or two guards are going as well. Hudson and Jaric want out.
Quote from: Low Key on June 26, 2007, 11:51:46 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:48:39 AMQuote from: Low Key on June 26, 2007, 11:46:00 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:31:07 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:13:53 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:11:44 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:04:22 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 10:49:11 AM^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...JOI thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pickIndiana gets Odom and BynumCeltics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pickLakers get Kevin GarnettLooks like everyone wins in that deal.Some A LOT more than others...IMO, Indiana wins the most...Anyways, looks like the Mavs are in the runnings now.http://www.dallasbasketball.com/newmainArticle.asp?id=170Naw, the Celts and the Lakers get the best part of the deal. Indiana gets a decent trade. And the Wolves get shafted. Along with Garnett, either one or two guards are going as well. Hudson and Jaric want out.The Celtics get the best deal? The Wolves get shafted? LOL...Al Jefferson IMO currently holds more value than Garnett alone. Dude played like a beast and is still only 21! On top of that, Minnesota is looking for 3 things. A top pick, cap relief, and a future superstar...THIS IS THE BEST THEY WILL GET! If they don't take an offer like this, Garnett walks for nothing, and Minnesota loses. Celtics honestly lose out in this deal, because IMO, Al Jefferson alone is worth more than JO...Jefferson broke out this year, and he will be an all-star in no time. Then consider that Boston is losing the 5th pick as well, and it's insane to say they're getting the best part of the deal...The only reason I think the Celtics should do that is to keep Pierce and try and win now in the weak ass eastern conference. Indiania and Minnesota get the best part of this deal if that goes down...PeACe
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 12:12:35 PMQuote from: Low Key on June 26, 2007, 11:51:46 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:48:39 AMQuote from: Low Key on June 26, 2007, 11:46:00 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:31:07 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:13:53 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:11:44 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:04:22 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 10:49:11 AM^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...JOI thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pickIndiana gets Odom and BynumCeltics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pickLakers get Kevin GarnettLooks like everyone wins in that deal.Some A LOT more than others...IMO, Indiana wins the most...Anyways, looks like the Mavs are in the runnings now.http://www.dallasbasketball.com/newmainArticle.asp?id=170Naw, the Celts and the Lakers get the best part of the deal. Indiana gets a decent trade. And the Wolves get shafted. Along with Garnett, either one or two guards are going as well. Hudson and Jaric want out.The Celtics get the best deal? The Wolves get shafted? LOL...Al Jefferson IMO currently holds more value than Garnett alone. Dude played like a beast and is still only 21! On top of that, Minnesota is looking for 3 things. A top pick, cap relief, and a future superstar...THIS IS THE BEST THEY WILL GET! If they don't take an offer like this, Garnett walks for nothing, and Minnesota loses. Celtics honestly lose out in this deal, because IMO, Al Jefferson alone is worth more than JO...Jefferson broke out this year, and he will be an all-star in no time. Then consider that Boston is losing the 5th pick as well, and it's insane to say they're getting the best part of the deal...The only reason I think the Celtics should do that is to keep Pierce and try and win now in the weak ass eastern conference. Indiania and Minnesota get the best part of this deal if that goes down...PeACeYou said it yourself. The East is weak. Al Jefferson having a break out year really doesn't mean a whole lot on the West, especially if LA gets Garnett. Minnesota's entire team is made up of young guys. They don't need a future star, they need proven talent. For all we know, last year for Al Jefferson could have been a fluke. And another pick for the Wolves just mean they have to spend that much longer developing another young guy, who may or may not pan out. Without some sort of threat keeping Minnesota relevant, they could have all the cap space in the world, but free agent would want to sign and pretty much all of their bargaining chips for a high powered trade would be gone.
Quote from: Low Key on June 26, 2007, 12:29:19 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 12:12:35 PMQuote from: Low Key on June 26, 2007, 11:51:46 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:48:39 AMQuote from: Low Key on June 26, 2007, 11:46:00 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:31:07 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:13:53 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 11:11:44 AMQuote from: Rik on June 26, 2007, 11:04:22 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 26, 2007, 10:49:11 AM^^Who was Boston getting in the deal? I don't even think that was disclosed...JOI thought Minnesota was getting JO? The deal is pretty confusing...Nah, Minnesota was getting Al Jefferson and a pick I believe.Minnesota gets Al Jefferson and the 5th pickIndiana gets Odom and BynumCeltics get Jermaine O'Neal and 19th pickLakers get Kevin GarnettLooks like everyone wins in that deal.Some A LOT more than others...IMO, Indiana wins the most...Anyways, looks like the Mavs are in the runnings now.http://www.dallasbasketball.com/newmainArticle.asp?id=170Naw, the Celts and the Lakers get the best part of the deal. Indiana gets a decent trade. And the Wolves get shafted. Along with Garnett, either one or two guards are going as well. Hudson and Jaric want out.The Celtics get the best deal? The Wolves get shafted? LOL...Al Jefferson IMO currently holds more value than Garnett alone. Dude played like a beast and is still only 21! On top of that, Minnesota is looking for 3 things. A top pick, cap relief, and a future superstar...THIS IS THE BEST THEY WILL GET! If they don't take an offer like this, Garnett walks for nothing, and Minnesota loses. Celtics honestly lose out in this deal, because IMO, Al Jefferson alone is worth more than JO...Jefferson broke out this year, and he will be an all-star in no time. Then consider that Boston is losing the 5th pick as well, and it's insane to say they're getting the best part of the deal...The only reason I think the Celtics should do that is to keep Pierce and try and win now in the weak ass eastern conference. Indiania and Minnesota get the best part of this deal if that goes down...PeACeYou said it yourself. The East is weak. Al Jefferson having a break out year really doesn't mean a whole lot on the West, especially if LA gets Garnett. Minnesota's entire team is made up of young guys. They don't need a future star, they need proven talent. For all we know, last year for Al Jefferson could have been a fluke. And another pick for the Wolves just mean they have to spend that much longer developing another young guy, who may or may not pan out. Without some sort of threat keeping Minnesota relevant, they could have all the cap space in the world, but free agent would want to sign and pretty much all of their bargaining chips for a high powered trade would be gone.I guess you don't get the point...Minnesota isn't winning now. They're not looking for an aged superstar that'll help them win games. They're looking for young talent, draft picks, and cap relief, becuase they're going with a future youth movement...I thought living in Minnesota, you'd be the first to know this. Al Jefferson isn't a fluke, I've followed him since he was drafted, dude has been nice, and now he's an all-star caliber player with endless future superstar potential. WOLVES WANT A TOP PICK. I'm not the one who said this, it's been written everywhere. If Minnesota doesn't take either Odom+Bynum+Kwame for Garnett+Jaric or All Jefferson+5th pick for Garnett, then they are flat out STUPID.
Trade talks that involved sending Minnesota star Kevin Garnett to the Los Angles Lakers have ended, sources within the organizations have told ProBasketballNews.com.“It’s officially dead. (Timberwolves owner Glen) Taylor won’t allow it to happen,” one source said.The deal was first reported by the Los Angeles Times as a possible four-team trade that also involved Indiana and Boston, in which the Lakers would have received Garnett. According to the Times, Lakers big men Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum would have been sent to Indiana, and Indiana forward Jermaine O’Neal would have gone to Boston. Minnesota would have received young players and draft picks.The Times later reported that Boston backed out of the deal -- leaving the Lakers and Timberwolves to negotiate on their own. One scenario reported by the newspaper had the Lakers shipping Odom, Bynum and the No. 19 pick to Minnesota for Garnett.The Boston Globe and other news sources have reported similar deals within the past 24 hours.“All discussions have ended (between the Lakers and Timberwolves),” a second source told PBN.com. “There’s no deal.”A third source would only say “it‘s very slim” when asked if there remained a possibility that Garnett could end up with the Lakers this off-season.Taylor and Timberwolves vice-president of basketball operations Kevin McHale ended the talks with L.A. after determining the Lakers couldn’t offer enough in return, according to the sources. The Timberwolves are expected to continue seeking a deal for Garnett, and will likely focus their attention again on Boston and possibly Phoenix.“It seems like they don’t want (Garnett) playing in the Western Conference, and that only makes sense,” the first source said.Garnett is 31 years old and a 10-time All-Star. He has spent all 12 seasons in Minnesota, and averaged 22.4 points, 12.8 rebounds and 4.1 assists last year.Garnett is owed $22 million next season and $23 million in 2008-09. His contract expires following the ‘08-09 season and he reportedly has requested an extension.
ESPN's Ric Bucher reported yesterday that even a deal that nets KG wouldn't change Kobe's "trade me" stance.
QuoteESPN's Ric Bucher reported yesterday that even a deal that nets KG wouldn't change Kobe's "trade me" stance.