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it will be a sad day for the world if these kids dont get sent down for assault (no racist).
Now, I can't comment on how justified that release is because I don't have extended knowledge about this Jena 6 stuff. But I want to add that it is pretty fucked up to release convicted criminals just because some people on the street say so. This is very dangerous, actually.
Quote from: 7even is the next Iwan Karamasow on October 01, 2007, 10:45:03 AMNow, I can't comment on how justified that release is because I don't have extended knowledge about this Jena 6 stuff. But I want to add that it is pretty fucked up to release convicted criminals just because some people on the street say so. This is very dangerous, actually.I'm not the one to just hop on this and take the side because of color, but shut the fuck up with that bullshit "its actually dangerous". I do agree that if you commit a crime you should face the appropriate punishment but you're acting like these kids committed armed robbery, or shot someone. A bunch of high school stupid drama and a kid got jumped; and it got blown up by the media. Like people who haven't really committed worse crimes are not out on the streets, and your acting like these young immature, dumb kids (like most are at that age) are fucking monsters.
Quote from: boycriedwolf619 on October 02, 2007, 04:19:26 PMQuote from: 7even is the next Iwan Karamasow on October 01, 2007, 10:45:03 AMNow, I can't comment on how justified that release is because I don't have extended knowledge about this Jena 6 stuff. But I want to add that it is pretty fucked up to release convicted criminals just because some people on the street say so. This is very dangerous, actually.I'm not the one to just hop on this and take the side because of color, but shut the fuck up with that bullshit "its actually dangerous". I do agree that if you commit a crime you should face the appropriate punishment but you're acting like these kids committed armed robbery, or shot someone. A bunch of high school stupid drama and a kid got jumped; and it got blown up by the media. Like people who haven't really committed worse crimes are not out on the streets, and your acting like these young immature, dumb kids (like most are at that age) are fucking monsters.People with worse crimes go free all the time, but they don't get public protests all the time. This has nothing to do with the crime. The crime could have been that they molested and raped a 3 year old girl. The people protesting don't even think about the fact that they could be guilty. People rioted for Rodney King for fuck sakes. They weren't rioting when he was blowing his 2 mil on coke and beating up women.
Quote from: Shallow on October 02, 2007, 09:32:46 PMQuote from: boycriedwolf619 on October 02, 2007, 04:19:26 PMQuote from: 7even is the next Iwan Karamasow on October 01, 2007, 10:45:03 AMNow, I can't comment on how justified that release is because I don't have extended knowledge about this Jena 6 stuff. But I want to add that it is pretty fucked up to release convicted criminals just because some people on the street say so. This is very dangerous, actually.I'm not the one to just hop on this and take the side because of color, but shut the fuck up with that bullshit "its actually dangerous". I do agree that if you commit a crime you should face the appropriate punishment but you're acting like these kids committed armed robbery, or shot someone. A bunch of high school stupid drama and a kid got jumped; and it got blown up by the media. Like people who haven't really committed worse crimes are not out on the streets, and your acting like these young immature, dumb kids (like most are at that age) are fucking monsters.People with worse crimes go free all the time, but they don't get public protests all the time. This has nothing to do with the crime. The crime could have been that they molested and raped a 3 year old girl. The people protesting don't even think about the fact that they could be guilty. People rioted for Rodney King for fuck sakes. They weren't rioting when he was blowing his 2 mil on coke and beating up women. I think people have the misconception that the people are rioting because they think that the young men are innocent. I think they are rioting because the crime doesn't fit the punishment. Are they guilty of the crime-yes; but is the punishment suitable? I don't think so. And again with the Rodney King incident people weren't protesting because he shouldn't have been punished for what he did because like you said he was doing coke and all the fucked up shit (so, yes he should have dealt with the consequences whatever it maybe. But when you have cops out there acting like fucking wild hyenas, just like the idiot gangs out there then there is a problem. Those are people who are supposed to serve and protect (or protect and serve,which ever way it goes). They were rioting over the fact that how the situation went about. Did you see him getting fucking his ass kicked while barely even moving on the floor; posing no threat to the group of police surrounding him. People who think like you are so narrow minded. I look at everything from all sides. If you don't think there was something wrong with how the cops handled the situation, then I really don't know what to tell you.
Quote from: boycriedwolf619 on October 02, 2007, 10:29:47 PMQuote from: Shallow on October 02, 2007, 09:32:46 PMQuote from: boycriedwolf619 on October 02, 2007, 04:19:26 PMQuote from: 7even is the next Iwan Karamasow on October 01, 2007, 10:45:03 AMNow, I can't comment on how justified that release is because I don't have extended knowledge about this Jena 6 stuff. But I want to add that it is pretty fucked up to release convicted criminals just because some people on the street say so. This is very dangerous, actually.I'm not the one to just hop on this and take the side because of color, but shut the fuck up with that bullshit "its actually dangerous". I do agree that if you commit a crime you should face the appropriate punishment but you're acting like these kids committed armed robbery, or shot someone. A bunch of high school stupid drama and a kid got jumped; and it got blown up by the media. Like people who haven't really committed worse crimes are not out on the streets, and your acting like these young immature, dumb kids (like most are at that age) are fucking monsters.People with worse crimes go free all the time, but they don't get public protests all the time. This has nothing to do with the crime. The crime could have been that they molested and raped a 3 year old girl. The people protesting don't even think about the fact that they could be guilty. People rioted for Rodney King for fuck sakes. They weren't rioting when he was blowing his 2 mil on coke and beating up women. I think people have the misconception that the people are rioting because they think that the young men are innocent. I think they are rioting because the crime doesn't fit the punishment. Are they guilty of the crime-yes; but is the punishment suitable? I don't think so. And again with the Rodney King incident people weren't protesting because he shouldn't have been punished for what he did because like you said he was doing coke and all the fucked up shit (so, yes he should have dealt with the consequences whatever it maybe. But when you have cops out there acting like fucking wild hyenas, just like the idiot gangs out there then there is a problem. Those are people who are supposed to serve and protect (or protect and serve,which ever way it goes). They were rioting over the fact that how the situation went about. Did you see him getting fucking his ass kicked while barely even moving on the floor; posing no threat to the group of police surrounding him. People who think like you are so narrow minded. I look at everything from all sides. If you don't think there was something wrong with how the cops handled the situation, then I really don't know what to tell you.If the blacks that protest cops beating on blacks spent one tenth of that energy protesting and rioting for black gangs beating on blacks you'd see a lot more solutions.Would I have beat on him like that If I was a cop? No. Would I condone that as an official in the force? No. Would I let the cops off as a judge? No. Narrow minded my ass. Narrow minded is thinking that rioting in the streets is going to solve anything. I wonder how many women out there with permanent physical or emotional injuries in hindsight wish the cops beat on him a little more and maybe he wouldn't have been able to keep up what he would do to them. I'm just saying that there are plenty of good honest blacks being screwed by the system that don't get this kid of support. Why waste it on low lifes?Al fucking Sharpton was on Dr Phil arguing with the family of the victim about whether the kid was really hurt so don't tell me those idiots marching don't think they did it. The problem with bozos like Al Sharpton is they fight for the wrong kind of fair. They bring up how whites get off and they fight for blacks to get off too. They should be fighting for whites to not get off. Anyone that defends a crime with the logic that "we'll he did it too" is a moron. You don't defend that crime you go after the other one.But let's be real here. There is no way that crowd marching will even accept the possibility that maybe the tree wasn't white only as a rule, that the nooses didn't cause such a big deal, and that the kid with the gun was trying to defend himself, And that this kid was beat down like a dog and was severely hurt. I'm not saying it all happened like this but the idea that it may have will be dismissed by the black community as if it's a fact that this is entirely racially driven by the white oppressor. And that is the assumed racism culture (that I mentioned before and you ignored) inherited by blacks in america today. It has to be racism every fucking time. It's an excuse to fail and it hurts the black community, and that is the only reason I oppose it. If it was shown that this coping mechanism helped blacks proceed I'd be all for it, but that isn't the case. When a white says that he doesn't understand black pain. When a black says it he's an uncle tom. People that think that way rot in their stubbornness.I'd call this case attempted 2nd degree murder. I'd call the Rodney King incident the same thing. You beat on someone while they are down and unconscious you are doing so knowing the possibilty of death. The teens under the law of that state should be tried as adults. Whether they should be convicted of it is another story. Assault is attacking someone. Aggravated assault is attacking someone with a weapon and intent to seriously hurt. Stomping on someone lieing motionless on the ground is attempted murder. The only reason I don't mind seeing these kids free on bail now is because with all eyes on them they would be careful. But if this case was all white kids and no media then I'm not so sure I'd want them out on bail at all because I'm not so sure they won't assault again.Let me ask you this; let's say Bell while on bail gets into another serious fight and gets arrested again and Al Sharpton still finds away to defend it. Will you tell that devil worshipping demon Al Sharpton to go fuck him self on this forum?
I have no problem accepting it could be racism. But given the pictures of Barker's face from the hospital and the fact that Bell was a third time offender I'd need a lot to let him out on bail to be with a father that abandoned him. Louisiana law states you cannot be tried as an adult unless it's a case of murder or attempted murder and as a judge I'd like to let the community know that accusations of stomping on a kid while down is something that should be taken very seriously. I think Ive already mentioned the kid here from a few years back that went retarted because of stomps and kicks to the head. And there was also another kid in my high school that had a permant tick and speech problem because of the same thing happening to him. I'd treat white kids doing that the same way. Not try and make sure black kids get off on crimes like that as well.I know full well how the media can spin things but I also know what I see with my own eyes every day. Black people just don't get as mad when stupid street crime kills their community as they do when a cop eraid kicks down doors and makes arrests.
Quote from: Shallow on October 03, 2007, 08:03:35 AMI have no problem accepting it could be racism. But given the pictures of Barker's face from the hospital and the fact that Bell was a third time offender I'd need a lot to let him out on bail to be with a father that abandoned him. Louisiana law states you cannot be tried as an adult unless it's a case of murder or attempted murder and as a judge I'd like to let the community know that accusations of stomping on a kid while down is something that should be taken very seriously. I think Ive already mentioned the kid here from a few years back that went retarted because of stomps and kicks to the head. And there was also another kid in my high school that had a permant tick and speech problem because of the same thing happening to him. I'd treat white kids doing that the same way. Not try and make sure black kids get off on crimes like that as well.I know full well how the media can spin things but I also know what I see with my own eyes every day. Black people just don't get as mad when stupid street crime kills their community as they do when a cop eraid kicks down doors and makes arrests.Like I said before blacks do get upset when their community is filled with crime and drugs but the media doesn't show. Also, I've never seen black people riot over someone door being kicked in and raided (because most likely its a drug dealer or a criminal doing mischief in the neighborhood). The whole picture your not seeing is that the people get upset when the police who should be protecting are just as fucked up as the criminals in the neighborhood or when justice and equality isn't being carried out. Your just assuming because thats how the media makes it look.
The point is that you can't fix the devil.
Quote from: Shallow on October 03, 2007, 10:52:56 AMThe point is that you can't fix the devil. But the devil is white. That is why it's necessary to kill all the crackers.