L.O., You Got to Go: The Lakers Must Trade Lamar Odom

[Don Jacob]

there's no one really i can think of that we could trade for that would make any more positive impact on the team than odom, if we keep him. we need a banger in the post , but who's got that , that we could REALISTICALLY trade for?

[GangstaBoogy]

there's no one really i can think of that we could trade for that would make any more positive impact on the team than odom, if we keep him. we need a banger in the post , but who's got that , that we could REALISTICALLY trade for?

Jermaine O'neal - his asking price had to has dropped. Odom + Kwame + our 1st Round Draft Pick

Pau Gasol - the Lakers said they didn't want to go after him and put Jerry West in a tough position but fuck it, he's just what we're looking for and he's still not happy in Memphis. Odom + Crittenton? Odom + 2 1st Round Draft Picks?

Hell I'd even settle for us calling up Marc Gasol.

[Don Jacob]

pau gasol yeah...maybe, then you have more incentive for marc to come over and they tear shit up with spain in the FIBA.  but not for jermaine o'neal he had a slight shot this summer but i'm kinda glad he didn't take it.

[wcsoldier]

the pb is others teams would probably want Andrew to be included in any packages .. trading Lamar+fillers for a All Star ain't happenin

[The Watcher]

no team in their right mind would take odom and some change, they will want odom + bynum + picks for an allstar, if fans are seeing odom fuck up, so is everyone else (players, coaches, gm's)

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Dude, Odom is not the same player. Did you ever even watch him with the Clippers? His breakout season was with the Heat, when he was first supposed to make the all-star squad over Jamaal Magloire. He built his body and drastically improved his toughness/rebounding. His next 3 seasons with us were strong, aside from the injuries. He ended last season struggling through a major shoulder injury, and was still able to put up nice numbers. Now he's still coming back from that injury. Lay off his nuts for now at least...It's a brand new season, still not even at the halfway mark...PeACe

I was actually gonna ask you that. Anybody that watched him with the Clippers and who watches him now knows this guy hasn't improved a single part of his game! He still can't go right. His post up game is still weak. He still has bad decision making. Hell even his numbers are still the same. Actually worse because he averaged 17ppg for the Clippers and the Heat. The best he's givin us is last year with 15.9. 15.9! We should've kept Butler and traded Odom for Boozer.

And why the fuck do you keep saying he was SUPPOSED to make the All-Star team? Like that shiet was owed to him.

Because he was clearly robbed by Jamaal Magloire that one year, when there was an outrage over it on the east coast...Either way, Lamar could easily put up 20-25 points nowadays as a first option, which is what he was with the Clippers. To say he hasn't improved his game is beyond ignorant. It's something that someone who only looks at numbers would say, so it doesn't surprise me coming from you. The way he's built is different than how he was built in his younger days. Of course, he's not gunna get boss scoring numbers alongside Kobe, but look at his drastic increase in production with Miami as opposed to his days with the Clippers. You don't see the jump? He's been a double-double guy for 4 years straight, now...something he never was with the Clippers. And Odom doesn't have an amazing post game, but he will post you up, and he is very capable of scoring on the block...something he was weak at when he was younger, as well...So to say that Odom is the same player just goes to show how much you really know on the topic. Caron Butler would not flourish on the Lakers like he did in Washingtons open court offense, so it's good that we traded him. We'd be lost as fuck right now without Kwame's toughness on the block. And Odom is much more fit for the triangle, so I'm glad we traded Butler instead...PeACe

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

no team in their right mind would take odom and some change, they will want odom + bynum + picks for an allstar, if fans are seeing odom fuck up, so is everyone else (players, coaches, gm's)

Odom is in his pre-season right now...When he's back to being that 15-5-5 guy on a regular basis, there will be tons of teams interested. As of now, we could easily get Artest or Kirilenko for him...PeACe

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

the pb is others teams would probably want Andrew to be included in any packages .. trading Lamar+fillers for a All Star ain't happenin

Indiana is retarded if they don't take Lamar+Kwame+1st pick for JO...That said, I wouldn't want LO for JO straight up, considering how JO's been performing in Indiana.

[wcsoldier]

^^^^ I don't want J.O , dude won't reach his best level anymore .. as I said many times , I want Gasol

[Don Jacob]

well we got one of them technically

[Doggystylin]

there really isn't anyone out there, we just have to hope bynum and critt develop quicker

[Styles1]

^ sounds like a plan.. I will pray to Jesus and you can pray to Allah.... that way we are covered on both angles. 

[tempo2]

lol laker fans are so fickle. saying the lakers should ship out odom immediatley is just complete ludacris. if anything a player like odom (who is one of the most versitile players in the game) is the perfect compliment for a player like kobe bryant. and when bynum fully develops he'd be the 3rd best option  in the league hands down. name one thing the guy cant do? he can post up, hit the mid range shot, rebound with the best power forwards in the game, has a handle and vision like a point guard and picks his spots in the offence which is essential in the triangle offence the lakers play.

and to the guy who said name one thing odom has improved on, his 3pt stroke has drastically improved since he entered the league. when the alkers are healthy there a dangerous team, they are hovering at .500 in thw west with nagging injuries to odom and kwame. when the lakers are healthy and bynum and the other young guys continut to develop the lakers are a very dangerous team, and i for one think having odom around is only beneficial for them. Think of these three players playing in the leakers system for a whole season injury free:

kobe bryant (30+ppg 5rpg 5apg)
lamar odom (18ppg 10rpg 5apg)
andrew bynum (18ppg 10rpg 3bpg)

how can anyone argue with the core of the team being like that? 

[Styles1]

^ your concerns are noted....

But it's not like he's a young rookie that we have been waiting on to develop. He's a vet that has never blossomed in to his potential as an NBA star.

We need him to be more than just a "good" player to "have around".... He needs to be a star on this team and in this league.

[Antonio_]

Lamar Odom is not a superstar. A superstar is somebody who excels in at least one aspect of the game, and he makes the difference on the floor. Chris Paul is a superstar because he can score, he can dishes the ball, he has floor leadership. Howard is a superstar cause he's a rebounding machine, and he can score too, if you give him the ball inside in a good position. Pau Gasol is a superstar because he's a PF/C who can shoot from 3pts, who can rebound, who can score, who has floor leadership, etc.. Lamar Odom is not. Plain and simple. Ok, he is a good rebounder, he is skilled enought to score 10-15 points per game, but he lacks a lot of aspects in his game and he hasn't worked hard enought to fix them (yet?). First of all he's soft. Yes he is, plain and simple. And i'm talking about his concentration on the game. He ain't always with his mind 100% concentrated on the game, he takes pauses, he shots less than 5-6 times during some games (you will never see Duncan, or Boozer, or other good PF players take less than 5-6 shots. And they both have another good scorer in their team, so don't blame Kobe!), plus he makes stupid mistakes (don't let me post some embarassing mistakes he does when he's not concentrated on the floor, like passing himself the ball from a throw in, etc..). He's def playing under his potential. He's somehow like Kwame Brown: a dude with great potential but with menthal problems (i'm not calling him retarded, i'm saying he doesn't concentrate his mind on the floor the right way). Kwame at least worked hard to become a good one-on-one post defender. Odom has worked hard to grab rebounds. But is it enought? No. Is he playing so bad that we should trade him? That's another story. He's playing as a PF, basically. So if we trade him, we gotta replace him with another PF. The problem is: who is that PF we could realistically sign who is better than him?

Carlos Boozer? Hell yeah, he is better than Odom no fucking doubt. But Utah won't trade him (no more)
Jermaine O'Neal? He's not playing well in Indiana and we can't sacrifice Bynum for him. So.. no (more). Because of Bynum, basically.
Pau Gasol? Hell yeah, he's a beast!! I'd fucking love him! But Mitch said he don't want to ask him to Jerry West. So.. Mitch already said "no!".
Matrix? No. He's not a superstar, just like Odom. And i see no point in trading Odom for him.
Who else?

That's the problem! We have nobody better than him to sign if we trade him (obviously i'm not considering trades involving Bynum or Kobe). Make some names if you have them, cause i dont! Nobody. So.. even if he ain't a superstar (imho), and even if he's not playing like he could (it's also because of he's recovering from an injury, but let's not be hyprocrite saying that's his only problem), i think we should keep him. He can only improve, and if he does the team will improve. Let's wait and let's hope he starts to play like he should. Again.