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^You replace Chris Paul with Deron Williams, and you still have a great team. You replace Kobe with ANYONE in the league, and we would not be the biggest threat in basketball, as we currently are. Paul is valuable, but he is not the "one and only" type of player...very replaceable. Now, if we removed both Paul and Kobe off their teams, it'd be:PG Derek FisherSG Sasha VujacicSF Lamar OdomPF Vladimir RadmanovicC Pau GasolvsPG Jannero PargoSG Morris PetersonSF Peja StojakavicPF David WestC Tyson ChandlerLooks like the Hornets have 3 all-stars to the Lakers' 2 (1, if you consider that Odom never played in an all-star game). Now, ask yourself...who is honestly the better overall player, Kobe Bryant or Chris Paul? Which team finished 1st in the west? Which team persevered through injuries? Who bitched who in their head-to-head match ups? I think it's pretty obvious who our MVP is. Only a hater would say this wasn't Kobe's year.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on May 08, 2008, 11:28:26 AM^You replace Chris Paul with Deron Williams, and you still have a great team. You replace Kobe with ANYONE in the league, and we would not be the biggest threat in basketball, as we currently are. Paul is valuable, but he is not the "one and only" type of player...very replaceable. Now, if we removed both Paul and Kobe off their teams, it'd be:PG Derek FisherSG Sasha VujacicSF Lamar OdomPF Vladimir RadmanovicC Pau GasolvsPG Jannero PargoSG Morris PetersonSF Peja StojakavicPF David WestC Tyson ChandlerLooks like the Hornets have 3 all-stars to the Lakers' 2 (1, if you consider that Odom never played in an all-star game). Now, ask yourself...who is honestly the better overall player, Kobe Bryant or Chris Paul? Which team finished 1st in the west? Which team persevered through injuries? Who bitched who in their head-to-head match ups? I think it's pretty obvious who our MVP is. Only a hater would say this wasn't Kobe's year.fish the machine lo vladrad and pau are way better than the hornets with paul what kind of laker fan are you david west is only an all star because of paul and that the all star game was in new orleans anyway lo deserved that spot not him stojakavic was an all star 4 years ago hes finished the only good player they have left is chandler and he only looks good because of paul the lakers are the best team with or without kobe but kobe is still very valuable to the team because he makes them that much better
Quote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 07, 2008, 04:46:00 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on May 06, 2008, 11:26:44 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 10:37:33 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on May 06, 2008, 09:14:25 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.what the fuck are you talking about, now? seriously? The Hornets have some great players...Peja Stojakavic is a former all-star who regained his form this season. David West is former college player of the year. Tyson Chandler is one of the best centers in the league. Byron Scott is a great coach...Seriously, now, take your Kobe-hater goggles off and admit that not only did Kobe deserve this MVP, but that it's sad that it's his first one.I'll take off my Kobe-Hater-Goggles if you'll remove Kobe's cock from your mouth.Kobe has been the best player in the league for years. If that was the name of the award, he shoulda had that shit for like 5 years straight. But it's the Most Valuable Player. NOBODY thought NO was a 50+ win team, nobody saw them sitting on top of the West up until the last game of the season. And even after we all witnessed that, NOBODY saw them opening 2-0 against the defending champs. Not only did no one see them putting up 50+ wins, but especially not if the caveat was that only 50 win teams were making the playoffs this year in the west.Paul put up freakish numbers and converted nearly everybody on his team into overachiever status. Whenever he was on The Tonight Show, all of his teammates were there supporting him. They're also known to be on set for interviews or commercials. He is the quintessential teammate - his guys truly like him and vice versa. Laker players give Kobe mad props, but it's mostly just ass-kissing out of fear. More along the lines of "Yes, he is a freaking amazing player, but a shitty teammate."Anybody who even halfway follows the NBA would have told you that going into this season the Lakers were a dangerous team. Why is that? Because Kobe was gonna get so much better? Fuck no, it was because of the way Bynum had finally started to develop. They were scary at that point, and then throw in Gasol? ShiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitI don't give a flying fuck if you guys think Kobe should have got it in years prior. Just because the idiots in the media didn't get it right in the past doesn't give them the right to award it to him this year to rectify the situation. I swear to God that's the only arguement I hear "Yeah but he's deserved it in the past, so it's ok to give it to him this year". How the fuck does that remotely make sense?You don't seem too knowledgeable on the situation, sunny. Kobe is having the best season of his career, and whether he's playing with legit teammates or not, he's been the MVP for some time now, helping his team more than ANY other player, without a shadow of a doubt. Yea, we got Pau Gasol midseason, but we had the top record in the west even before that. Kobe's drive and fierce competitiveness is what instills the will in players like Bynum to work on their game, to attain that same drive, and maximize their potential. Did Chris Paul not get Stojakovic back? and for you to say that Kobe's teammates think he's a shitty teammate just proves how fuckin ignorant you are. Kobe is close to all his teammates.. the chemistry of the team is amazing. Everyone is mad cool with everyone, on and off the court. Going into the season, people thought the Lakers were in more shit than the Hornets. Analysts were predicting we'd miss the playoffs left and right. The argument isn't that he shoulda got it in the past. The argument is that he's the best player in the game, on the best team in the game, playing his best season yet.Kobe Bryant is no doubt the MVP.You don't seem too knowledgeable in general, bitch. If there was no doubt of Kobe being the MVP nobody else would have gotten votes. There's a reason Kobe got 82 first place votes to Chris Paul's 28, BY THE MEDIA, ya fuckin shithead.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on May 06, 2008, 11:26:44 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 10:37:33 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on May 06, 2008, 09:14:25 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.what the fuck are you talking about, now? seriously? The Hornets have some great players...Peja Stojakavic is a former all-star who regained his form this season. David West is former college player of the year. Tyson Chandler is one of the best centers in the league. Byron Scott is a great coach...Seriously, now, take your Kobe-hater goggles off and admit that not only did Kobe deserve this MVP, but that it's sad that it's his first one.I'll take off my Kobe-Hater-Goggles if you'll remove Kobe's cock from your mouth.Kobe has been the best player in the league for years. If that was the name of the award, he shoulda had that shit for like 5 years straight. But it's the Most Valuable Player. NOBODY thought NO was a 50+ win team, nobody saw them sitting on top of the West up until the last game of the season. And even after we all witnessed that, NOBODY saw them opening 2-0 against the defending champs. Not only did no one see them putting up 50+ wins, but especially not if the caveat was that only 50 win teams were making the playoffs this year in the west.Paul put up freakish numbers and converted nearly everybody on his team into overachiever status. Whenever he was on The Tonight Show, all of his teammates were there supporting him. They're also known to be on set for interviews or commercials. He is the quintessential teammate - his guys truly like him and vice versa. Laker players give Kobe mad props, but it's mostly just ass-kissing out of fear. More along the lines of "Yes, he is a freaking amazing player, but a shitty teammate."Anybody who even halfway follows the NBA would have told you that going into this season the Lakers were a dangerous team. Why is that? Because Kobe was gonna get so much better? Fuck no, it was because of the way Bynum had finally started to develop. They were scary at that point, and then throw in Gasol? ShiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitI don't give a flying fuck if you guys think Kobe should have got it in years prior. Just because the idiots in the media didn't get it right in the past doesn't give them the right to award it to him this year to rectify the situation. I swear to God that's the only arguement I hear "Yeah but he's deserved it in the past, so it's ok to give it to him this year". How the fuck does that remotely make sense?You don't seem too knowledgeable on the situation, sunny. Kobe is having the best season of his career, and whether he's playing with legit teammates or not, he's been the MVP for some time now, helping his team more than ANY other player, without a shadow of a doubt. Yea, we got Pau Gasol midseason, but we had the top record in the west even before that. Kobe's drive and fierce competitiveness is what instills the will in players like Bynum to work on their game, to attain that same drive, and maximize their potential. Did Chris Paul not get Stojakovic back? and for you to say that Kobe's teammates think he's a shitty teammate just proves how fuckin ignorant you are. Kobe is close to all his teammates.. the chemistry of the team is amazing. Everyone is mad cool with everyone, on and off the court. Going into the season, people thought the Lakers were in more shit than the Hornets. Analysts were predicting we'd miss the playoffs left and right. The argument isn't that he shoulda got it in the past. The argument is that he's the best player in the game, on the best team in the game, playing his best season yet.Kobe Bryant is no doubt the MVP.You don't seem too knowledgeable in general, bitch. If there was no doubt of Kobe being the MVP nobody else would have gotten votes.
Quote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 10:37:33 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on May 06, 2008, 09:14:25 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.what the fuck are you talking about, now? seriously? The Hornets have some great players...Peja Stojakavic is a former all-star who regained his form this season. David West is former college player of the year. Tyson Chandler is one of the best centers in the league. Byron Scott is a great coach...Seriously, now, take your Kobe-hater goggles off and admit that not only did Kobe deserve this MVP, but that it's sad that it's his first one.I'll take off my Kobe-Hater-Goggles if you'll remove Kobe's cock from your mouth.Kobe has been the best player in the league for years. If that was the name of the award, he shoulda had that shit for like 5 years straight. But it's the Most Valuable Player. NOBODY thought NO was a 50+ win team, nobody saw them sitting on top of the West up until the last game of the season. And even after we all witnessed that, NOBODY saw them opening 2-0 against the defending champs. Not only did no one see them putting up 50+ wins, but especially not if the caveat was that only 50 win teams were making the playoffs this year in the west.Paul put up freakish numbers and converted nearly everybody on his team into overachiever status. Whenever he was on The Tonight Show, all of his teammates were there supporting him. They're also known to be on set for interviews or commercials. He is the quintessential teammate - his guys truly like him and vice versa. Laker players give Kobe mad props, but it's mostly just ass-kissing out of fear. More along the lines of "Yes, he is a freaking amazing player, but a shitty teammate."Anybody who even halfway follows the NBA would have told you that going into this season the Lakers were a dangerous team. Why is that? Because Kobe was gonna get so much better? Fuck no, it was because of the way Bynum had finally started to develop. They were scary at that point, and then throw in Gasol? ShiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitI don't give a flying fuck if you guys think Kobe should have got it in years prior. Just because the idiots in the media didn't get it right in the past doesn't give them the right to award it to him this year to rectify the situation. I swear to God that's the only arguement I hear "Yeah but he's deserved it in the past, so it's ok to give it to him this year". How the fuck does that remotely make sense?You don't seem too knowledgeable on the situation, sunny. Kobe is having the best season of his career, and whether he's playing with legit teammates or not, he's been the MVP for some time now, helping his team more than ANY other player, without a shadow of a doubt. Yea, we got Pau Gasol midseason, but we had the top record in the west even before that. Kobe's drive and fierce competitiveness is what instills the will in players like Bynum to work on their game, to attain that same drive, and maximize their potential. Did Chris Paul not get Stojakovic back? and for you to say that Kobe's teammates think he's a shitty teammate just proves how fuckin ignorant you are. Kobe is close to all his teammates.. the chemistry of the team is amazing. Everyone is mad cool with everyone, on and off the court. Going into the season, people thought the Lakers were in more shit than the Hornets. Analysts were predicting we'd miss the playoffs left and right. The argument isn't that he shoulda got it in the past. The argument is that he's the best player in the game, on the best team in the game, playing his best season yet.Kobe Bryant is no doubt the MVP.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on May 06, 2008, 09:14:25 PMQuote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.what the fuck are you talking about, now? seriously? The Hornets have some great players...Peja Stojakavic is a former all-star who regained his form this season. David West is former college player of the year. Tyson Chandler is one of the best centers in the league. Byron Scott is a great coach...Seriously, now, take your Kobe-hater goggles off and admit that not only did Kobe deserve this MVP, but that it's sad that it's his first one.I'll take off my Kobe-Hater-Goggles if you'll remove Kobe's cock from your mouth.Kobe has been the best player in the league for years. If that was the name of the award, he shoulda had that shit for like 5 years straight. But it's the Most Valuable Player. NOBODY thought NO was a 50+ win team, nobody saw them sitting on top of the West up until the last game of the season. And even after we all witnessed that, NOBODY saw them opening 2-0 against the defending champs. Not only did no one see them putting up 50+ wins, but especially not if the caveat was that only 50 win teams were making the playoffs this year in the west.Paul put up freakish numbers and converted nearly everybody on his team into overachiever status. Whenever he was on The Tonight Show, all of his teammates were there supporting him. They're also known to be on set for interviews or commercials. He is the quintessential teammate - his guys truly like him and vice versa. Laker players give Kobe mad props, but it's mostly just ass-kissing out of fear. More along the lines of "Yes, he is a freaking amazing player, but a shitty teammate."Anybody who even halfway follows the NBA would have told you that going into this season the Lakers were a dangerous team. Why is that? Because Kobe was gonna get so much better? Fuck no, it was because of the way Bynum had finally started to develop. They were scary at that point, and then throw in Gasol? ShiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitI don't give a flying fuck if you guys think Kobe should have got it in years prior. Just because the idiots in the media didn't get it right in the past doesn't give them the right to award it to him this year to rectify the situation. I swear to God that's the only arguement I hear "Yeah but he's deserved it in the past, so it's ok to give it to him this year". How the fuck does that remotely make sense?
Quote from: Jrome bitch, who the fuck was it suppose to be on May 06, 2008, 06:22:42 PMWhat's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.what the fuck are you talking about, now? seriously? The Hornets have some great players...Peja Stojakavic is a former all-star who regained his form this season. David West is former college player of the year. Tyson Chandler is one of the best centers in the league. Byron Scott is a great coach...Seriously, now, take your Kobe-hater goggles off and admit that not only did Kobe deserve this MVP, but that it's sad that it's his first one.
What's more impressive - the Lakers finishing where they did this year or the Hornets? Paul was more valuable to the Hornets than Kobe was to the Lakers.
I think the whole "best player on the best team" is fucking retarded.The people in the media that say that are lazy and don't understand sports in general. Now the best player on the best team MIGHT truly be the mvp, but there shouldn't be some automatic formula to determine it.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on May 08, 2008, 11:28:26 AM^You replace Chris Paul with Deron Williams, and you still have a great team. You replace Kobe with ANYONE in the league, and we would not be the biggest threat in basketball, as we currently are. Paul is valuable, but he is not the "one and only" type of player...very replaceable. Now, if we removed both Paul and Kobe off their teams, it'd be:PG Derek FisherSG Sasha VujacicSF Lamar OdomPF Vladimir RadmanovicC Pau GasolvsPG Jannero PargoSG Morris PetersonSF Peja StojakavicPF David WestC Tyson ChandlerLooks like the Hornets have 3 all-stars to the Lakers' 2 (1, if you consider that Odom never played in an all-star game). Now, ask yourself...who is honestly the better overall player, Kobe Bryant or Chris Paul? Which team finished 1st in the west? Which team persevered through injuries? Who bitched who in their head-to-head match ups? I think it's pretty obvious who our MVP is. Only a hater would say this wasn't Kobe's year.But if you take Chris Paul off that team, then David West is not an All Star and nobody is getting the ball where they want it and defenses don't have to stay honest without Paul's presence.
the Hornets without Paul are a 20 win teamthe Lakers without Kobe (with a healthy Bynum/Gasol) can win maybe 35-40.
Quote from: Turf Hitta on May 08, 2008, 11:00:03 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on May 08, 2008, 11:28:26 AM^You replace Chris Paul with Deron Williams, and you still have a great team. You replace Kobe with ANYONE in the league, and we would not be the biggest threat in basketball, as we currently are. Paul is valuable, but he is not the "one and only" type of player...very replaceable. Now, if we removed both Paul and Kobe off their teams, it'd be:PG Derek FisherSG Sasha VujacicSF Lamar OdomPF Vladimir RadmanovicC Pau GasolvsPG Jannero PargoSG Morris PetersonSF Peja StojakavicPF David WestC Tyson ChandlerLooks like the Hornets have 3 all-stars to the Lakers' 2 (1, if you consider that Odom never played in an all-star game). Now, ask yourself...who is honestly the better overall player, Kobe Bryant or Chris Paul? Which team finished 1st in the west? Which team persevered through injuries? Who bitched who in their head-to-head match ups? I think it's pretty obvious who our MVP is. Only a hater would say this wasn't Kobe's year.But if you take Chris Paul off that team, then David West is not an All Star and nobody is getting the ball where they want it and defenses don't have to stay honest without Paul's presence.Yea, right...David West was gunna be an all-star regardless. He was college player of the year well before Chris Paul.
Response to the first post:You don't need to say it again motherfucker just shut the fuck up.
Quote from: doggystylin on May 09, 2008, 10:46:59 PMResponse to the first post:You don't need to say it again motherfucker just shut the fuck up.Chris Paul = MVP
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