Remember when LL used to spit like this...

[jeromechickenbone]

<a href="http://youtube.com/v/ly6nDVXc754" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://youtube.com/v/ly6nDVXc754</a>

He's really tarnished his legacy in the last several years.  His verse on here is ferocious.

[eazye]

Minus Master P, I fuckin' love every aspect to this track.Erick Sermon came up with an insane beat, and the visuals during Red, Meth, LL and DMXs verses are so sick.Whole damn video is ill as hell for that matter

I've seen people label LL's verse here weak and I've always laughed at them.He straight murders it, but I just like Red and Meth's verses better

props Jrome

[MediumL]

Everybody bar Master P destroyed that beat. That is possibly one of the best group cuts ever. My fav verse is Canibus then probably DMX, then Redman, then LL and Meth was hot on it too.

[gchild]

Well hopefully he will be returning to that 4321 flow than continuing with the "Love Song" formula


LL Cool J  - Rider Part 2 I think off a DJ Kay Slay tape or radio show.
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1177781245a5a140/ 
I'm not sure where the beat is from, but Lil Kim, G-Unit & Papoose have done a mixtape track over that same beat too

[Lord Funk]

You guys are crazy - LL had already fallen off hard by this point. You ant to hear him spit for real, listen to him between 1984 and 1993.

[K.Dub]

Dope posse cut

[sniperuk]

Well hopefully he will be returning to that 4321 flow than continuing with the "Love Song" formula


LL Cool J  - Rider Part 2 I think off a DJ Kay Slay tape or radio show.
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1177781245a5a140/ 
I'm not sure where the beat is from, but Lil Kim, G-Unit & Papoose have done a mixtape track over that same beat too

40 glocc - where them hammers at was the original track but g-unit bought the track off 40 and turned it into 'rider' or rider part 2 iunno.

[gchild]

You guys are crazy - LL had already fallen off hard by this point. You ant to hear him spit for real, listen to him between 1984 and 1993.

You mean like this.....
http://www.zshare.net/audio/2231199d01e0ed/

Thanks for this info aswell sniperuk

[jeromechickenbone]

You guys are crazy - LL had already fallen off hard by this point. You ant to hear him spit for real, listen to him between 1984 and 1993.

If you wanna get specific, "Radio" and "Bigger and Deffer" were overall great albums (however B&D saw the birth of LL's love songs w/ "I Need Love").  He began getting overly poppy w/ "Walking Like a Panther".  On the Marley Marl remix of "Jingling Baby", if you really pay attention to LL's lyrics and flows you'll swear to god that Big Daddy Kane wrote that shit, flowed that shit, and then let LL come in and re-record it.  That song is 90% Juice Crew / 10% LL. 

Mama Said Knock You Out truly was a comeback for him regardless of his opening line on that joint.  After that, LL was still successful but commercial - but he did have a lot of cats copying his style.  But his shit got way too formulaic and unoriginal. 

The Canibus beef (which was sparked when this song was recorded) brought LL back to spittin with some fury on a single for a change. 

So to break it down, give me LL from 85-88, 1990/91, and briefly in 1997/98.

[D~Nice]

LL was able to do a street song and a song for the ladies. He just over time is getting away from it. I Shot Ya and Forget About It were dope posse cuts also. The verse he spit on Meth & Red's album was pure fire too. He can still bring it at times, he just does not do it as often.

[Blood$]

damn I haven't heard this song in a minute, this used to be my shit

[MontrealCity's Most]

I dont remember Master p and canibus being in this song...

Wasent LL dissing Canibus in this song?

[Blood$]

I dont remember Master p and canibus being in this song...

Wasent LL dissing Canibus in this song?

yeah, the original version has Canibus verse saying something like "Yo L let me borrow that mic tattoo off your arm" or some shit, and L took offense to it, so his verse, which is still in this version, was a diss to Canibus

[jeromechickenbone]

I dont remember Master p and canibus being in this song...

Wasent LL dissing Canibus in this song?

Yeah Canibus had a line about borrowing the mic that is tatted on LL's arm.  LL took that as disrespect and proceeded to use his verse as response.  LL ended Canibus' career before it started. 

Canibus response to the 4321 verse - "2nd Round KO"
<a href="http://youtube.com/v/zYrIXlqrtWk" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://youtube.com/v/zYrIXlqrtWk</a>

LL's response to 2RKO - "Ripper Strikes Back"
<a href="http://youtube.com/v/cBYJ0QhIPEw" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://youtube.com/v/cBYJ0QhIPEw</a>

LL dropped one more joint goin at 'Bus - "Back Where I Belong"
<a href="http://youtube.com/v/bpeMpsNwG0I" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://youtube.com/v/bpeMpsNwG0I</a>

[Meho]

There's one thing I never understood about the beef. Not only did Canibus had to change his verse but LL also dissed him in the same song. But how come Canibus is still in the video, didn't he hear the obvious diss from LL ? Unless LL played him dirty.