MJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KOBE AND IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE.

[jeromechickenbone]

So please shut the fuck up.  Kobe has accomplished a lot of shit that Jordan never did, I'll give him that.  The main things being losing TWICE IN THE FINALS, getting obliterated by nearly 40 points in a close out game in the finals and sitting the bench. 

Bitch made Kobe reared his head in the finals just like I knew it would.  Yall Laker fans falling for that bullshit act like he respects and is friends with that team.  He destroyed the confidence of every player on that team except maybe Bynum.  He won't obliterate Bynum because he needs to ride on his back for a championship, just like he did Shaq.

And don't tell me this current squad couldn't have won the Championship.  Shitloads of people were picking them to not just win, but to destroy Boston.  What was their record since acquiring Gasol?

This team was good enough to win, but bitch made Kobe showed back up. 

Kobe Bryant your MVP.  LMAO.

[OG Hack Wilson]

real talk

[smegma]

I think Elior disagrees.

[teecee]

You know what?  You are completely right, it isnt even close. Skillwise yes, but it takes SO MUCH more than skill to lead a team to a championship as we all just saw. 


So, whoever the mod is of this forum, please in the future lock any threads trying to say Kobe is on MJ's level.  Kobe isnt 22 with no experience in the finals like LBJ was, he is already a champion on the number 1 seed in the team, and shits the bed in the finals.

And this is not the first time Kobe has completely SUCKED in an elimination game )remember when he wouldnt shoot against the suns?).

at least when Lebron and the Cavs took the CEltics to game 7, Lebron went out with 40 something and did EVERYTHING humanly possible to win.  The Cavs just werent good enough.

The Lakers WERE good enough, but lack of veteran leadership, their best player playing WELL below what he is capable of, and the entire team refusing to hustle or play any defense means they got their asses kicked.


NIK said give it some time before we judge kobe.  I say you do the same NIK. I know it hurts, but it isnt even close as of now. 

[OG Hack Wilson]

You know what?  You are completely right, it isnt even close. Skillwise yes, but it takes SO MUCH more than skill to lead a team to a championship as we all just saw. 


So, whoever the mod is of this forum, please in the future lock any threads trying to say Kobe is on MJ's level.  Kobe isnt 22 with no experience in the finals like LBJ was, he is already a champion on the number 1 seed in the team, and shits the bed in the finals.

And this is not the first time Kobe has completely SUCKED in an elimination game )remember when he wouldnt shoot against the suns?).

at least when Lebron and the Cavs took the CEltics to game 7, Lebron went out with 40 something and did EVERYTHING humanly possible to win.  The Cavs just werent good enough.

The Lakers WERE good enough, but lack of veteran leadership, their best player playing WELL below what he is capable of, and the entire team refusing to hustle or play any defense means they got their asses kicked.


NIK said give it some time before we judge kobe.  I say you do the same NIK. I know it hurts, but it isnt even close as of now. 

Lebron > Kobe

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Anyone who implies that Jordan woulda won yesterday in place of Kobe is a complete joke. Honestly, I doubt if Jordan in his prime woulda' even had these Lakers in the Finals this year. People using this as a reason MJ and Kobe are not comparable are completely baffled. This was a brand new team, people. A team who had 42 wins last season. A team who played without its starting center. A team that OVERachieved, thanks to Kobe's amazing performances throughout the year. Jordan might have not lost in the Finals, but he's had years where he couldn't even reach the Finals...The end.

You know what?  You are completely right, it isnt even close. Skillwise yes, but it takes SO MUCH more than skill to lead a team to a championship as we all just saw. 


So, whoever the mod is of this forum, please in the future lock any threads trying to say Kobe is on MJ's level.  Kobe isnt 22 with no experience in the finals like LBJ was, he is already a champion on the number 1 seed in the team, and shits the bed in the finals.

And this is not the first time Kobe has completely SUCKED in an elimination game )remember when he wouldnt shoot against the suns?).

at least when Lebron and the Cavs took the CEltics to game 7, Lebron went out with 40 something and did EVERYTHING humanly possible to win.  The Cavs just werent good enough.

The Lakers WERE good enough, but lack of veteran leadership, their best player playing WELL below what he is capable of, and the entire team refusing to hustle or play any defense means they got their asses kicked.


NIK said give it some time before we judge kobe.  I say you do the same NIK. I know it hurts, but it isnt even close as of now. 

Lebron > Kobe

You don't even warrant a response.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

I also wanna take the time to let you know how fucking stupid you are if you really believe that Kobe doesn't respect or hasn't become close to his teammates...and if you really think he ruined anyones confidence, you're a fuckin pussy. These are MEN were talkin about, not Jromo's...Kobe had these dudes in the gym workin their asses off and making huge strides. Man up and stop being such a gutless hater. Kobe had this team doing more than anyone believed possible...WITHOUT the starting center. Wake up and realize how pathetic your thoughts are.

[Elano]

MVP? More like MIA

BOSTON — In the end, the chant became fact, the screaming pleas of throaty New Englanders transposed into a sinking reality for silent Angelenos.

In the end, the crazy dream that the Lakers could quickly turn dysfunction into destiny ended when the Boston Celtics slowly turned them into chowder.

L.A. Beat.

And how.

An NBA Finals that began with the Lakers spraying wild streams of hope across the Southland ended Tuesday with those same Lakers in a small and embarrassed puddle.

Which the Celtics splashed through. Again and again. Loudly and messily and triumphantly in a 39-point victory that gave them their record 17th NBA championship.

The final score in Game 6 was Celtics 131, Lakers 92.

The final count in Finals games was Celtics 4, Lakers 2.

The final scene was green and white confetti blanketing brown parquet, small tears blanketing giant cheeks, fans tumbling over barricades onto the floor as the Lakers tried to escape.

"Man, man, man," said the Celtics' Kevin Garnett, saying it all.

The final cheers were heartfelt songs filled with the relief of fans who have waited 22 years since the Celtics' last title.

But the final chants were more compelling, because they were directed at you-know-who.

In his best chance at establishing his legacy as a championship player without Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant was seemingly burdened by something even heavier.

He made just seven of 22 mostly wild shots. He had just one assist. He had four turnovers.

The league MVP was

AWFUL, unable to break through even the most basic of one-on-one Celtic defenses, unable to carry a team that needed carrying.

In the six games of the series, he shot poorly, led inconsistently, had only one really dramatic moment, and that was on defense.

And, so, in voices that seemingly shook the TD Banknorth Garden, with Bryant standing at the foul line in the third quarter, here came those chants.

"You're . . . not . . . Jordan!" the fans sang, referring to Michael Jordan.

No, clearly, at this point he is not.

When Bryant began the fourth quarter on the bench with his team trailing by 29 points, they chanted again.

"Where . . . is . . . Kobe?" they sang even louder.

Today even the most diehard Bryant fans must be asking themselves the same thing, in wondering how far he can lead a team by himself.

"Once you taste defeat, that makes you a little tougher," said Bryant.

Other Lakers were just as deserving of the jeers.

Lamar Odom had two baskets and three turnovers and not one offensive rebound for a team that combined for a stunningly low two.

Pau Gasol had four baskets and five turnovers and the indignity of being forced into a jump ball by a guy -- Garnett -- using just one hand at the time.

"I thought we played on our heels from the very get-go," said Coach Phil Jackson. "They overran us. . . . We never met that energy all night tonight."

Before the game, if the Lakers were to lose, I was considering writing a column extolling this season's amazing turnaround and applauding them for an inspiring effort that ended at the feet of a clearly better team.

Before the game, if the Lakers were to lose, I was reminding everyone how their best inside player was in street clothes, and how Andrew Bynum's return next season should make them NBA favorites.

But after what happened in the game, how could any of us believe any of that?

They need more than Bynum. They need toughness in the middle. They needed maturity everywhere.

"We were surprised we were here, and we're glad that we had an opportunity," Jackson said. "But whenever you get this opportunity, you don't want to let it slip away, and we did."

How bad did it slip?

In the last seven minutes of the second quarter, the Celtics outscored the Lakers, 26-6, with a lineup that included three Celtic subs.

How bad did it look?

Garnett stalked around the court waving and chanting, a pep rally celebration -- with 5:07 left in the game.

The fans began chanting, "Nah-nah-nah-nah . . . goodbye" -- with 4:53 left.

Paul Pierce began doing a disco dance on the Celtic bench -- with 2:21 left.

Speaking of bad, yeah, the guy who began the series being carried off the floor and placed into a wheelchair was the Series MVP, an award that Pierce should place next to his Oscar.

"This is unreal," said Pierce in his acceptance speech.

I agree. I picked the Lakers to win in five games. The Lakers could not have won this series if it had gone 25 games.

I discounted that the Celtics' three veteran stars -- two of them acquired last summer -- would not be denied the championship that had thus far eluded them.

I didn't give them enough credit, and I gave some of the untested Lakers way too much credit.

So, too, apparently, did Jackson, who took the unusual step of threatening roster moves even before the cheering stopped.

"We have to get some players if we're going to come back and repeat, to have that kind of aggressiveness that we need," he said.

So when they return next fall, some of the Lakers might be new.

After this awful farewell, it is hoped that some of them will also be improved.

(latimes)

[Turf Hitta]

Anyone who implies that Jordan woulda won yesterday in place of Kobe is a complete joke. Honestly, I doubt if Jordan in his prime woulda' even had these Lakers in the Finals this year. People using this as a reason MJ and Kobe are not comparable are completely baffled. This was a brand new team, people. A team who had 42 wins last season. A team who played without its starting center. A team that OVERachieved, thanks to Kobe's amazing performances throughout the year. Jordan might have not lost in the Finals, but he's had years where he couldn't even reach the Finals...The end.

And so the delusion continues...

[hisairness]

He won't ever get it.  He talks so much shit and just keeps weaving things together to make it appear to make sense.  He's not a Laker fan as much as he is a Kobe fan. 

But...he'll keep on talking shit that doesn't make sense because he believes it.

Oh well...life goes on.

[Blow Out the Candle of the Devil]

Anyone who implies that Jordan woulda won yesterday in place of Kobe is a complete joke. Honestly, I doubt if Jordan in his prime woulda' even had these Lakers in the Finals this year. People using this as a reason MJ and Kobe are not comparable are completely baffled. This was a brand new team, people. A team who had 42 wins last season. A team who played without its starting center. A team that OVERachieved, thanks to Kobe's amazing performances throughout the year. Jordan might have not lost in the Finals, but he's had years where he couldn't even reach the Finals...The end.

LMAO DIS NIGGA IS TRIPPIN HELLA HARD
HE STILL TRYIN TO CLAIM KOBE IS ANYWHERE NEAR JORDAN OR EVEN BETTER THAN JORDAN HAHAAHAHHA

AND LOL THAT THEY OVERACHIEVED CUZ OF "KOBE"
WHEN ITS GOOD U WANNA GIVE ALL THE CREDIT TO KOBE, WHEN ITS BAD U BLAME EVERY1 ON THE TEAM BUT KOBE
GET HIS FUCKIN DICK OUT YOUR MOUTH
YEA KOBE LED THE TEAM TO THE FINALS BUT THEY WOULDNT HAVE BEEN THERE IF THEY DIDNT GET GASOL, LOOK AT THEIR RECORD BEFORE AND AFTER THAT TRADE. AND JUST LIKE KOBE LED THE TEAM TO THE FINALS, KOBE LET THE TEAM DOWN AS WELL. THE BLAME COMES WITH THE CREDIT.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

^You might find comfort in blaming Kobe, but anyone who knows shit about basketball knows we lost because of DEFENSIVE purposes...Jordan had great defensive teams, while we played with Gasol, a power forward, in place of our starting center. Keep fooling yourselves, Jordan lovers.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

YEA KOBE LED THE TEAM TO THE FINALS BUT THEY WOULDNT HAVE BEEN THERE IF THEY DIDNT GET GASOL, LOOK AT THEIR RECORD BEFORE AND AFTER THAT TRADE.

The Lakers were on top of the west BEFORE they got Gasol, genius. LOL.

[hisairness]

NIK, you were all over Gasol's sack when the Lakers got him.  But he doesn't deliver and you're crying like a bitch.  You're boy Kobe didn't exactly deliver in the Finals either...

The biggest stage...his chance to deliver a ring without Shaq...and what does he do?

Drops from 31 ppg in the playoffs to 25.  Shoots 40%.  Blew his wad in a must win situation.  Yeah.  Keep the excuses coming.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

NIK, you were all over Gasol's sack when the Lakers got him.  But he doesn't deliver and you're crying like a bitch.  You're boy Kobe didn't exactly deliver in the Finals either...

The biggest stage...his chance to deliver a ring without Shaq...and what does he do?

Drops from 31 ppg in the playoffs to 25.  Shoots 40%.  Blew his wad in a must win situation.  Yeah.  Keep the excuses coming.

Gasol is a very good all-star caliber player, no question about it...but this exposed the fact that we were using him as our starting center when he's a natural power forward. Despite what you may think, this was far from Kobe's last chance to win a ring without Shaq...just wait and see.