Why Is Not Showing Mercy Considered Classless?

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

At least if you don't wanna admit it's classless, just chalk it up as being young and dumb.


You seriously find nothing wrong with pouring Gatorade all up on the court with 3 mins left in the ballgame? LOL. I guess you yourself don't even know what class is...

I guess should have expected you to dance around the question without answering it and resort to ad-hominem attacks (very classy, I must admit). Are you going to attempt to explain your reasoning behind your stance that winning by a large margin and not letting up simply because your competition is inferior? Again, don't even take the game last night into account as this is not really even about the game.

I already explained it many times...You beat someones ass=okay. You beat their ass and keep stomping their head in while they're out cold=classless. Real life applies to sports...it's just the way it is, man. Anyone who was brought up with respect will understand this.

That does not suffice as an explanation. That doesn't even explain your position. So what you're saying is that you should not do your best if you are vastly superior to your competition? Is Carl Lewis breaking an Olympic world record by a large margin considered classless? Should he not perform to his ability just because he's killin everybody else? It has nothing to do with respect. If you respect your opponent and their ability, then you in fact DO NOT let up, especially when you KNOW they are capable of going on a huge run (down 24 and cutting it to 2 near the end of the game). Professionals get paid millions to perform at their optimum level. So how do you reconcile playing to your ability and playing down to the level of your competition?

I never said not to play to your ability... but when it's over you don't keep padding the lead...it's just not sportsmanlike behavior...never has been, never will be.

I'm getting conflicting ideas here. Do you play to your ability or do you play to make your opponent feel less embarrassed? It is not the duty of the winners to wave the white flag if the beating is too serious.

Shifting back to the game for an example: If it was over as you say, then why do you have a problem with Doc Rivers getting the Gatorade poured on him before time expired? You say it was over. If it was time for Boston to quit playing then what the fuck do you or anybody else care if there was Gatorade on the floor?

Anyway, the original question has still not been answered. Explain your reasoning, not just a cookie cutter response of "It's classless" or "its unsportsmanlike." What is it about imposing your will that is tasteless in an event that romanticizes athletes who impose their will? Isn't that what the people pay to see? Was it classless the way Lennox Lewis completely dismantled Mike Tyson? He didn't have to pick him apart like that for as long as he did, did he? Should he have just quit fighting as well as he could have because Tyson was clearly going to lose? Ray Allen is widely regarded as one of the classiest guys the NBA has ever seen. I sure saw him making a lot of shots "when it was already over" for such a classy guy. LOL

Ray Allen actually was the only one who kept it classy from the Boston squad...and I'm willing to admit that. If Lennox Lewis woulda knocked Mike Tyson out, then jumped on him and continued with the beatdown, THAT woulda' been classless. It's unclassy because it's disrespectful. You're supposed to respect your opponent and win gracefully, not pour salt in their wounds and rub it in their face...it's called sportsmanlike conduct, and the Celtics simply didn't show themselves to have that last night. What's really so hard to understand? Do you not understand why players dribble the clock out instead of taking an extra shot after it's clear that they've won? Come on, man, did your mama never teach you anything about respect?

So then it was classy of Ray Allen to be draining 3's even though the C's were up 30+? See what I mean about conflicting ideas? And Lewis toyed with Tyson very much in the same way that Boston toyed with LA. Tyson was clearly going to lose the fight but Lewis played with him and made him look like a bigger fool than Tyson could ever make himself look. Lewis removed any shadow of a doubt who the better fighter was. Same thing with last night. You can respect your opponent but that doesn't mean you can't crush them (on the court, ring, field, track, octagon, etc) and shake hands when its all said and done. And you shouldn't be talking about class and respect. Should I go through the posts and count up how many times you called somebody an idiot or insulted them in some way? Not a classy thing to do whether provoked or not.

You're right, nevermind...showboating and running up the score when the game is decided is very fitting for world class champions. I change my mind, good job. Players should just forget the routine of respecting their opponent and winding down the clock in the closing seconds and just hoist up shots, ala Vujacic...fuck sportsmanlike conduct, it's all about creaming your opponent to the fullest extent and rubbing their defeat all up in their faces, right? I salute you.

Is this your way of saying you're not going to explain your reasoning?

I explained it...you don't beat a mouse you've been tryna catch after you already killed it. If you don't get that, I don't know what you will. Why can't you answer my question? Is it all of a sudden okay to shoot in the closing seconds of a game you've won when it's already decided?...I've answered you, now you answer me.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

aye my nicca turf hitta, dont waste no more time with this jewish clown. the lil boy is just pissed cuz his team got they ass whooped and instead of talkin about how horrible kobe choked or how his lakers succed ass last night, he rather change the subject and have everyone talk about niccas being 'classless.'

anybody who aint wearin gay kobe luvin' glasses like him would see that kobe is the most classless nba nicca out, u know, rapin white girls and all. plus the lakers dont know shiet about class, like towelie cuzz said, they didnt seem to complain about being unclassy when they left kobe in the game to pad his stats and score 81.

they coulda took bitch ass kobe out, but instead left him in so he can keep scoring more and get into the 80s. the lakers was already up 15 with only like 2 mins 50 seconds left, kobe already had 74 and the game was over, the lakers had already made a huge comebacc, but the lakers left kobe in and he kept shooting 3 pointers even tho he knew the game was over. the raptors had choked a huge lead away in the 3rd and 4th and wasnt coming bacc, but kobe just kept shootin 3s cuz he wanted to be classless and get his own glory. i know this gay jew is gonna try and say it aint true, but the box score/play by play dont lie.  kobe had 74 points, a 15 point laker lead, only 2 mins left and he still stayed in until only 4 seconds was left. it was over at 3 mins left, but he stayed in to 'keep paddin the lead. the raptors even took all they main guys out. u can see the substitutions, thats like giving up. instead of takin kobe out too, with a huge lead and 2 mins, the lakers left him in to score 7 more points and break 80. see fo yoself cuzz.





like i said, jewbitch just wants everyone to forget that the lakers and kobe CHOKED in the finals. celtics whooped ass.

Phil was criticized a couple games before that for taking Kobe out when he had 62 points and there was still a whole quarter to play...There's a difference between showboating and bringing your team back with a historic performance. A 13 point lead with 2:35 to play is not 100% safe...A 30 point lead with 3 minutes to go is...Learn the difference, genius.

[Turf Hitta]

At least if you don't wanna admit it's classless, just chalk it up as being young and dumb.


You seriously find nothing wrong with pouring Gatorade all up on the court with 3 mins left in the ballgame? LOL. I guess you yourself don't even know what class is...

I guess should have expected you to dance around the question without answering it and resort to ad-hominem attacks (very classy, I must admit). Are you going to attempt to explain your reasoning behind your stance that winning by a large margin and not letting up simply because your competition is inferior? Again, don't even take the game last night into account as this is not really even about the game.

I already explained it many times...You beat someones ass=okay. You beat their ass and keep stomping their head in while they're out cold=classless. Real life applies to sports...it's just the way it is, man. Anyone who was brought up with respect will understand this.

That does not suffice as an explanation. That doesn't even explain your position. So what you're saying is that you should not do your best if you are vastly superior to your competition? Is Carl Lewis breaking an Olympic world record by a large margin considered classless? Should he not perform to his ability just because he's killin everybody else? It has nothing to do with respect. If you respect your opponent and their ability, then you in fact DO NOT let up, especially when you KNOW they are capable of going on a huge run (down 24 and cutting it to 2 near the end of the game). Professionals get paid millions to perform at their optimum level. So how do you reconcile playing to your ability and playing down to the level of your competition?

I never said not to play to your ability... but when it's over you don't keep padding the lead...it's just not sportsmanlike behavior...never has been, never will be.

I'm getting conflicting ideas here. Do you play to your ability or do you play to make your opponent feel less embarrassed? It is not the duty of the winners to wave the white flag if the beating is too serious.

Shifting back to the game for an example: If it was over as you say, then why do you have a problem with Doc Rivers getting the Gatorade poured on him before time expired? You say it was over. If it was time for Boston to quit playing then what the fuck do you or anybody else care if there was Gatorade on the floor?

Anyway, the original question has still not been answered. Explain your reasoning, not just a cookie cutter response of "It's classless" or "its unsportsmanlike." What is it about imposing your will that is tasteless in an event that romanticizes athletes who impose their will? Isn't that what the people pay to see? Was it classless the way Lennox Lewis completely dismantled Mike Tyson? He didn't have to pick him apart like that for as long as he did, did he? Should he have just quit fighting as well as he could have because Tyson was clearly going to lose? Ray Allen is widely regarded as one of the classiest guys the NBA has ever seen. I sure saw him making a lot of shots "when it was already over" for such a classy guy. LOL

Ray Allen actually was the only one who kept it classy from the Boston squad...and I'm willing to admit that. If Lennox Lewis woulda knocked Mike Tyson out, then jumped on him and continued with the beatdown, THAT woulda' been classless. It's unclassy because it's disrespectful. You're supposed to respect your opponent and win gracefully, not pour salt in their wounds and rub it in their face...it's called sportsmanlike conduct, and the Celtics simply didn't show themselves to have that last night. What's really so hard to understand? Do you not understand why players dribble the clock out instead of taking an extra shot after it's clear that they've won? Come on, man, did your mama never teach you anything about respect?

So then it was classy of Ray Allen to be draining 3's even though the C's were up 30+? See what I mean about conflicting ideas? And Lewis toyed with Tyson very much in the same way that Boston toyed with LA. Tyson was clearly going to lose the fight but Lewis played with him and made him look like a bigger fool than Tyson could ever make himself look. Lewis removed any shadow of a doubt who the better fighter was. Same thing with last night. You can respect your opponent but that doesn't mean you can't crush them (on the court, ring, field, track, octagon, etc) and shake hands when its all said and done. And you shouldn't be talking about class and respect. Should I go through the posts and count up how many times you called somebody an idiot or insulted them in some way? Not a classy thing to do whether provoked or not.

You're right, nevermind...showboating and running up the score when the game is decided is very fitting for world class champions. I change my mind, good job. Players should just forget the routine of respecting their opponent and winding down the clock in the closing seconds and just hoist up shots, ala Vujacic...fuck sportsmanlike conduct, it's all about creaming your opponent to the fullest extent and rubbing their defeat all up in their faces, right? I salute you.

Is this your way of saying you're not going to explain your reasoning?

I explained it...you don't beat a mouse you've been tryna catch after you already killed it. If you don't get that, I don't know what you will. Why can't you answer my question? Is it all of a sudden okay to shoot in the closing seconds of a game you've won when it's already decided?...I've answered you, now you answer me.

 Sure its ok. Who the fuck cares? I get your point. They were defeated. They kept shooting. So? What is wrong with that? What is it about that that makes it classless? Instead of making abstract references to mice, you might want to start with a definition of class and take it from there. And before you put words in my mouth, I'm not saying it isn't classless or it is classless.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

LOLLL. So I guess you're above the common practice in basketball to respect your opponent and not shoot the final shot of the game when you've already won.

[Blow Out the Candle of the Devil]

LOLLL. So I guess you're above the common practice in basketball to respect your opponent and not shoot the final shot of the game when you've already won.

THEY DIDNT SHOOT THE FINAL SHOT. YOU CAN'T WHINE BECAUSE RAY ALLEN WAS DRAINING SHOTS WHEN THE GAME IS STILL GOING ON. WHAT YOU EXPECT HIM TO DO WITH 3, 4, 5 MINUTES LEFT?

[Turf Hitta]

LOLLL. So I guess you're above the common practice in basketball to respect your opponent and not shoot the final shot of the game when you've already won.

Maybe you should change your screen name to LA DODGER the way you dodge questions so readily. I must say you are gifted in that respect. maybe you should be the new Bush Administration publicist.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

LOLLL. So I guess you're above the common practice in basketball to respect your opponent and not shoot the final shot of the game when you've already won.

Maybe you should change your screen name to LA DODGER the way you dodge questions so readily. I must say you are gifted in that respect. maybe you should be the new Bush Administration publicist.

WHAT MAKES IT CLASSLESS IS THAT THEY'RE RUBBING DEFEAT IN THEIR FACE AND DISRESPECTING THEIR OPPONENT. Geez, man, what the fuck don't you get? The only thing being dodged is my reply that proves you've either a.)never followed sports in your life or b.)were brought up with no respect.

[eS El Duque]

There's a way to be gracious in victory, and it's not by throwing alleyoop dunks and raining in threes when the game is decided, it's by running the clock. Celebrating on the court with five minutes left in the game, throwing Gatorade on Doc Rivers, bringing their families down courtside while the game was still going... even Joey Crawford had to shove a camera man off the court with three minutes left...I'll even admit, Sasha pulled off a bitch move by shooting that 3 when the game was decided vs San Antonio, and Sasha now knows it. That's just not the way to act in sports. Glen Davis also shoved Ronny Turiaf after the game was over...ridiuclous. Celtics showed themselves to be a team of classless hoodlums...then again, this was their last and only chance to win a title, so they better enjoy it while they can. They're tasteless, but I don't blame 'em...PeACe

NOW HE admits it...I betcha if the lakers won by 30 points...this is a non issue with NIK

[OG Hack Wilson]

LOLLL. So I guess you're above the common practice in basketball to respect your opponent and not shoot the final shot of the game when you've already won.

THEY DIDNT SHOOT THE FINAL SHOT. YOU CAN'T WHINE BECAUSE RAY ALLEN WAS DRAINING SHOTS WHEN THE GAME IS STILL GOING ON. WHAT YOU EXPECT HIM TO DO WITH 3, 4, 5 MINUTES LEFT?

shooting air balls on purpose so Kobe and co dont get their feelings hurt?

[Blow Out the Candle of the Devil]

LOLLL. So I guess you're above the common practice in basketball to respect your opponent and not shoot the final shot of the game when you've already won.

THEY DIDNT SHOOT THE FINAL SHOT. YOU CAN'T WHINE BECAUSE RAY ALLEN WAS DRAINING SHOTS WHEN THE GAME IS STILL GOING ON. WHAT YOU EXPECT HIM TO DO WITH 3, 4, 5 MINUTES LEFT?

shooting air balls on purpose so Kobe and co dont get their feelings hurt?

SERIOUSLY, WHAT DOES THIS RETARD EXPECT RAY ALLEN TO SAY "HERE ODOM, YOU GUYS ARE DOWN, TAKE THE BALL AND GO DUNK IT SO YOU CAN FEEL BETTER AND KOBE CAN STOP CRYING"

[Turf Hitta]

LOLLL. So I guess you're above the common practice in basketball to respect your opponent and not shoot the final shot of the game when you've already won.

Maybe you should change your screen name to LA DODGER the way you dodge questions so readily. I must say you are gifted in that respect. maybe you should be the new Bush Administration publicist.

WHAT MAKES IT CLASSLESS IS THAT THEY'RE RUBBING DEFEAT IN THEIR FACE AND DISRESPECTING THEIR OPPONENT. Geez, man, what the fuck don't you get? The only thing being dodged is my reply that proves you've either a.)never followed sports in your life or b.)were brought up with no respect.

LOL so your response boils down to "they were being meanies." I suppose its classy when Kobe is talking shit to the guys guarding him though right? Isn't that disrespectful and rubbing the fact that his defender can't stop him in their face? And like I said, you are hardly an authority on being respectful with the way you talk to people on this board. you constantly are calling people out of their names or just generally disrespecting them.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

LOLLL. So I guess you're above the common practice in basketball to respect your opponent and not shoot the final shot of the game when you've already won.

Maybe you should change your screen name to LA DODGER the way you dodge questions so readily. I must say you are gifted in that respect. maybe you should be the new Bush Administration publicist.

WHAT MAKES IT CLASSLESS IS THAT THEY'RE RUBBING DEFEAT IN THEIR FACE AND DISRESPECTING THEIR OPPONENT. Geez, man, what the fuck don't you get? The only thing being dodged is my reply that proves you've either a.)never followed sports in your life or b.)were brought up with no respect.

LOL so your response boils down to "they were being meanies." I suppose its classy when Kobe is talking shit to the guys guarding him though right? Isn't that disrespectful and rubbing the fact that his defender can't stop him in their face? And like I said, you are hardly an authority on being respectful with the way you talk to people on this board. you constantly are calling people out of their names or just generally disrespecting them.

Again...you either don't watch sports, or you don't have an ounce of respect in your body, cuz you disagree with common sports ideology. And the way I talk to morons on this board who ride my nuts has nothing to do with class...Class goes out the window once you're disrespected.

LOLLL. So I guess you're above the common practice in basketball to respect your opponent and not shoot the final shot of the game when you've already won.

THEY DIDNT SHOOT THE FINAL SHOT. YOU CAN'T WHINE BECAUSE RAY ALLEN WAS DRAINING SHOTS WHEN THE GAME IS STILL GOING ON. WHAT YOU EXPECT HIM TO DO WITH 3, 4, 5 MINUTES LEFT?

shooting air balls on purpose so Kobe and co dont get their feelings hurt?

SERIOUSLY, WHAT DOES THIS RETARD EXPECT RAY ALLEN TO SAY "HERE ODOM, YOU GUYS ARE DOWN, TAKE THE BALL AND GO DUNK IT SO YOU CAN FEEL BETTER AND KOBE CAN STOP CRYING"

you don't get the point, idiot...you're fucking slow.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

There's a way to be gracious in victory, and it's not by throwing alleyoop dunks and raining in threes when the game is decided, it's by running the clock. Celebrating on the court with five minutes left in the game, throwing Gatorade on Doc Rivers, bringing their families down courtside while the game was still going... even Joey Crawford had to shove a camera man off the court with three minutes left...I'll even admit, Sasha pulled off a bitch move by shooting that 3 when the game was decided vs San Antonio, and Sasha now knows it. That's just not the way to act in sports. Glen Davis also shoved Ronny Turiaf after the game was over...ridiuclous. Celtics showed themselves to be a team of classless hoodlums...then again, this was their last and only chance to win a title, so they better enjoy it while they can. They're tasteless, but I don't blame 'em...PeACe

NOW HE admits it...I betcha if the lakers won by 30 points...this is a non issue with NIK

There's nothing to admit, it's a BLATANT bitch move, just like running up the score of a decided game...

[Blow Out the Candle of the Devil]

NO NIGGA WHY DONT YOU ANSWER
WHEN THERE'S 3, 4, 5 MINUTES TO PLAY... RAY ALLEN IS WIDE OPEN FOR A SHOT BECAUSE NOBODY ON THE LAKERS SQUAD CAN PLAY DEFENSE, AND SOMEONE PASSES HIM THE BALL, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO DO?
HIM TAKING A SHOT IS NOT CLASSLESS. IS IT HIS FAULT, THAT UNLIKE THE LAKER PLAYERS, HE ACTUALLY MAKES HIS SHOTS AND DOESNT BRICK THEM LIKE KOBE WAS DOING? THATS NOT CLASSLESS. STOP CRYING YOU LITTLE BITCH.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

NO NIGGA WHY DONT YOU ANSWER
WHEN THERE'S 3, 4, 5 MINUTES TO PLAY... RAY ALLEN IS WIDE OPEN FOR A SHOT BECAUSE NOBODY ON THE LAKERS SQUAD CAN PLAY DEFENSE, AND SOMEONE PASSES HIM THE BALL, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO DO?
HIM TAKING A SHOT IS NOT CLASSLESS. IS IT HIS FAULT, THAT UNLIKE THE LAKER PLAYERS, HE ACTUALLY MAKES HIS SHOTS AND DOESNT BRICK THEM LIKE KOBE WAS DOING? THATS NOT CLASSLESS. STOP CRYING YOU LITTLE BITCH.

Nobody said not to shoot...I said not to run up the score and showboat, blocking shots and screaming your ass off, dunking on fools and getting all super excited before the game is over. It's called unsportsmanlike conduct, and your dumbass is a worldclass idiot for not realizing what I mean.