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Quote from: Tay on June 23, 2008, 10:41:54 PMQuote from: Turf Hitta on June 23, 2008, 08:40:15 PMLOL "what a disgusting human being." LOL GTFOH!!! You are on a gangsta rap website, you do realize that this is the same type of thing that probably brought you to this board in the first place, right? You guys are way too emotionally attached to the Lakers if this bothers you. Its just Shaq having a little fun. This is the same guy who's dick you were all over in the early 2000's. I didn't give a fuck when E 40 had a verse talkin shit about Rasheed Wallace. And Shaq didn't even said nothin that wasn't true!!!Rasheed was out of pocket for saying E-40 didn't deserve to go platinum though...Haha, glad you brought it up, these are funny incidents. The thing with these athletes is, that we don't really know what kind of person they are, so as long as they don't make too much noise off the field/court, and perform well for our team, is all that really matters.ROGER CLEMENS ANYBODY
Quote from: Turf Hitta on June 23, 2008, 08:40:15 PMLOL "what a disgusting human being." LOL GTFOH!!! You are on a gangsta rap website, you do realize that this is the same type of thing that probably brought you to this board in the first place, right? You guys are way too emotionally attached to the Lakers if this bothers you. Its just Shaq having a little fun. This is the same guy who's dick you were all over in the early 2000's. I didn't give a fuck when E 40 had a verse talkin shit about Rasheed Wallace. And Shaq didn't even said nothin that wasn't true!!!Rasheed was out of pocket for saying E-40 didn't deserve to go platinum though...Haha, glad you brought it up, these are funny incidents. The thing with these athletes is, that we don't really know what kind of person they are, so as long as they don't make too much noise off the field/court, and perform well for our team, is all that really matters.
LOL "what a disgusting human being." LOL GTFOH!!! You are on a gangsta rap website, you do realize that this is the same type of thing that probably brought you to this board in the first place, right? You guys are way too emotionally attached to the Lakers if this bothers you. Its just Shaq having a little fun. This is the same guy who's dick you were all over in the early 2000's. I didn't give a fuck when E 40 had a verse talkin shit about Rasheed Wallace. And Shaq didn't even said nothin that wasn't true!!!
He used it as an example, there's a difference, cuzz...he didn't know the cop was gunna leak that to the public. There's a big difference between slippin and snitchin...Kobe slipped, he paniced, his life flashed before his eyes. Still no "snitch". I bet it hurts to see Shaq succing dicc while Kobe is in his prime and on top of the league. Fuccin alias ass bitch, get a lyfe.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 23, 2008, 11:38:19 PMQuote from: Turf Hitta on June 23, 2008, 08:40:15 PMLOL "what a disgusting human being." LOL GTFOH!!! You are on a gangsta rap website, you do realize that this is the same type of thing that probably brought you to this board in the first place, right? You guys are way too emotionally attached to the Lakers if this bothers you. Its just Shaq having a little fun. This is the same guy who's dick you were all over in the early 2000's. I didn't give a fuck when E 40 had a verse talkin shit about Rasheed Wallace. And Shaq didn't even said nothin that wasn't true!!!This is not a rap beef, you idiot...these are ATHLETES. LOL. Anyone who thinks Shaq isn't a bitch for this shit needs to get slapped by their mama for the first time in their life.Nobody said it was a rap beef, you dolt (And yes, Shaq is/was also a rapper with some pretty successful records if you recall). I would argue that anyone who thinks Shaq IS a bitch for this is way too emotionally attached to Kobe/the Lakers. Is E40 a disgusting human being too? How the fuck do you even pass judgment on him and call him "disgusting" based on some light hearted shit like this? Did you forget to take your pills or did you take too many pills today? You are so ridiculously sensitive when it comes to the Lakers. In your eyes everything Lakers is perfect and anybody with the nerve to say anything less than complimentary of the lakers is either "disgusting" or a "hater"
Quote from: Turf Hitta on June 23, 2008, 08:40:15 PMLOL "what a disgusting human being." LOL GTFOH!!! You are on a gangsta rap website, you do realize that this is the same type of thing that probably brought you to this board in the first place, right? You guys are way too emotionally attached to the Lakers if this bothers you. Its just Shaq having a little fun. This is the same guy who's dick you were all over in the early 2000's. I didn't give a fuck when E 40 had a verse talkin shit about Rasheed Wallace. And Shaq didn't even said nothin that wasn't true!!!This is not a rap beef, you idiot...these are ATHLETES. LOL. Anyone who thinks Shaq isn't a bitch for this shit needs to get slapped by their mama for the first time in their life.
^^^Either way, that was definitely a class move on Kobe's part a) to fuck around on his wife and b) to throw Shaq under the bus. As you put it, "world class."
Quote from: Turf Hitta on June 23, 2008, 11:52:17 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 23, 2008, 11:38:19 PMQuote from: Turf Hitta on June 23, 2008, 08:40:15 PMLOL "what a disgusting human being." LOL GTFOH!!! You are on a gangsta rap website, you do realize that this is the same type of thing that probably brought you to this board in the first place, right? You guys are way too emotionally attached to the Lakers if this bothers you. Its just Shaq having a little fun. This is the same guy who's dick you were all over in the early 2000's. I didn't give a fuck when E 40 had a verse talkin shit about Rasheed Wallace. And Shaq didn't even said nothin that wasn't true!!!This is not a rap beef, you idiot...these are ATHLETES. LOL. Anyone who thinks Shaq isn't a bitch for this shit needs to get slapped by their mama for the first time in their life.Nobody said it was a rap beef, you dolt (And yes, Shaq is/was also a rapper with some pretty successful records if you recall). I would argue that anyone who thinks Shaq IS a bitch for this is way too emotionally attached to Kobe/the Lakers. Is E40 a disgusting human being too? How the fuck do you even pass judgment on him and call him "disgusting" based on some light hearted shit like this? Did you forget to take your pills or did you take too many pills today? You are so ridiculously sensitive when it comes to the Lakers. In your eyes everything Lakers is perfect and anybody with the nerve to say anything less than complimentary of the lakers is either "disgusting" or a "hater"The fact that you're comparing E40 dissing Rasheed to Shaq's childish antics is just ridiculous. What's next, Tiger Woods disses Rocco Mediate? You have no morals, man. As for Shaq, you might not know much about the guy, but he's always been a big asshole and a giant baby, and any Laker fan who followed the team this decade can tell you this...hell, even Heat fans realized what a jackass he was after he left the team and made those dickhead comments. Read some books with objective opinions on Shaq from people who knew him throughout his career, and you will understand what type of guy he is, as well...PeACeI also guess that him dissing Ewing and Kareem was cool too...Saying he's better than Kareem. LMFAO!
^He didn't "snitch" to get Shaq in trouble, he used Shaq's well-known escapades as an EXAMPLE. It's not like they told Kobe he'd get a lighter sentence if he dropped names or whatever...LOL. Get off the nuts, fake bitch.
I knew Shaq was a bitch, but this shit is too sick to be true. Gotta be fake.
kobe's typical character behavior is the same as a lil 17 year old wanna be prom queen diva bitch. first cuzz is a rapist who paid the bitch to shut up, second he cried on TV with his wife punkin him then he bought her a 4 million dolla ring and got a butterfly tat of her name. everyone who's every played with the lil bitch knows he's got the temper of a female and cries like a queen. kobes character is horrible, thats why noen of the 3 peat lakers liked him. his wife runs his life. plus he snitched on another grown man just cuz he was scared like a girl. even phil jaccson knows the shiet, he wrote a book blamin gay ass kobe for breakin up the 3 peat lakers and not winnin the title. The announcement of Bryant's Colorado rape charges obscured the promise of the Lakers' recent offseason acquisitions of Payton and Malone. Regarding news of Bryant, Jackson wrote of his concern but also: "Kobe can be consumed with surprising anger, which he's displayed toward me and toward his teammates....He rebels against authority." Jackson and Laker management decided to loosen their reins on Bryant, who decided to play the season as normal, but with admittedly no patience for O'Neal's comments to the media. As in past seasons, the tensions between the angry Bryant and sensitive O'Neal grew, with intense media attention. Jackson, who suggests he has had a tenuous relationship with Bryant ever since a remark he made in a 2001 interview that Bryant "sabotaged" games in high school to win them at the end, states that the Lakers suspended talks over a contract extension after he shouted to General Manager Mitch Kupchak "I won't coach this team next year if [Bryant] is still here. He won't listen to anyone. I've had it with this kid." Bryant, after realizing the apparent finality of his time with Jackson, more or less reached a distanced truce with him.The controversy surrounding the book concerns Jackson's characterization of Bryant and treatment of the breakup. In The Last Season Jackson suggests Bryant's influence on the dissolution and labels him "uncoachable." According to Jackson, in Bryant's exit interview with him he stated that O'Neal's fate with the Lakers would affect his decision to return, saying "I'm tired of being a sidekick." Later in a phone call with Lakers owner Jerry Buss, Jackson recounts Buss's explanation of the team's preference for Bryant rather than O'Neal, of which Jackson disapproved: "It's not that I'm enamored with Kobe's character. But he is twenty-six in August. The seven years ahead are the prime years of his career....I have to serve the people who are loyal to me. My mail runs about 5-1 on Kobe to Shaq." Jackson makes his own departure sound like a mutual decision with Laker management, saying he was "at peace" with the outcome, but he recorded Buss's remark: "We're going in a different direction." But Jackson's thoughts on Bryant caused the most stir. While calling coaching O'Neal "an experience I will cherish forever," his inflammatory comment on Bryant continued to draw attention when Jackson returned for a second coaching stint with the Lakers on June 15, 2005.
About Shaq: O'Neal actually seemed the most comfortable in his role and his skin. He was down to earth, approachable, and had a sense of humor. he was respectful of elders, so even if rival centers like David Robinson were leery of him, the veterans liked him. Jordan thought he was cool. Barkley said O'Neal and Ewing were the two nicest guys in the NBA. But as the years went by and O'Neal climbed even higher until the lord of all surveyed, you could see the trip getting to him. He started putting the Superman logo everywhere: tattooed on one bicep, etched in the glass of the front door of his house, in the grillwork of his Escalade. Now it seemed the best of times were never good enough. There was always something to complain about, starting with coaches who called him to account, and, worst of all, teammates who didn't kiss the ring, like, say, Kobe Bryant.About Kobe: Bryant looked like everyone's little brother, but he was calm and uruffled, expressing surprise at nothing and bemusement if anyone questioned his confidence. It wouldn't be long before Laker staffers would be saying the fun-loving, goof-off O'Neal seemed like the teenager and the sober, driven Bryant, the grownup. Bryant would always be described as mature, a word thrown around mindlessly on the sports pages. What he was really was poised, focused, and serene in his quest. He knew where he was going, and nothing culd stop him; any misadventures along the way, he knew, were temporaryShaq quote: After a win at Phoenix, an exultant O'Neal proclaimed, "I'm glad I'm the general manager of this team. I've got this team just the way I want it".Shaq's first jabs: And so it started. O'Neal began dropping hints about "stupid, idiotic play," then more pointed hints, as when he told reporters "You guys know the real problem. You're just too scared to write about it" Finally, O'Neal just laid it out there. He had a deal with CBS Sportsline, and on a trip to Oakland, he expressed his doubts, in what amounted to the first shot fired in a struggle that would run for years. "What is this, an experiment?" O'Neal said. "Nobody waited for me when I came in the league. The pressure was there as soon as I started to play. That's my job. Why wait? I'm not going to be here that long that I want to wait years for him (Bryant) to figure it out." For his part, Bryant was mystified. His belief in himself was such, he thought everyone approved of what he did as much as he did. Nor did he sense any problem with O'Neal, who, Bryant noted, never complained to him about anything.Shaq's primadonna attitude: After a loss to San Antonio, Shaq stomped back to the dressing room and overturned the cart holding the TV and VCR.Shaq's frustrations: In three seasons with the Lakers, O'Neal had only been as far as the conference finals once, and had seen his team booted out by scored of 4-1, 4-0, and 4-0. He bailed on the breakup meeting, as usual, and flew back to his Orlando mansion. He was only a year away from being able to opt out, and teammates were worried. "He was crazy upset," said one. "Maybe he had an excused absence?" Derek Harper jokingly said.Shaq Quote: "I sorta' gave the organization an ultimatum," O'Neal said. "This is my eighth year. I'm tired of winning 50, 60 games and going home early. Get me somebody that can take us to the next level"Laker dynasty dysfunctions: Bryant's problems would one day overshadow all that had gone before, making it seem as if he;d been the issue all along, but he was just another part of another Lakers triangle. Like Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, and Elgin Balor in the sixties, the tension between Bryant, Jackson, and O'Neal were ongoing, and alliances were shifting but there was a weird stability there, too. They lasted five seasons and won three titles to two and none for Jerry, Elgin, and Wilt. With the new Lakers dynasty, you didn't have to imagine the possibilities , which presented themselves in headlines daily. Jackson and O'Neal were at odds as much of the time as O'Neal and Bryant were at odds.Shaq's motivation: O'Neal used to joke that when he won a title, he'd come back looking like the Hindenburg. He turned out to be as good as his jest, coming in heavy for camp in what would become a rite of autumn.Shaq's original trade request: After a loss in Phoenix (2001), O'Neal told GM Mitch Kupchak he wanted to be traded. At the All-Star game in Washington, DC, O'Neal told Orlando's Sentinel's Brian Schmitz he'd love to return to the Magic. When Schmitz asked if he was serious, O'Neal replied, "Look in my eyes. I'm not lying. I love Tracy McGrady. I could play with him. He;s the most unselfish player of all the young guys. He's the model for the next NBA stars."Shaq vs. Phil Now, O'Neals problem became Jackson. O'Neal had accepted Jackson's jibes at first, calling Jackson, "my white father," but that was when O'Neal was still in the 325-pound range. Now he was coming in heavier every fall and taking half the season to play himself into shape. At the end of the 2001 season, he had vowed to come back at his rookie weight, under 300, as a lean, mean rebounding machine. Instead, he spent the summer tending to foot injuries and came back closer to 400. Bill Walton noted, "Shaq is a virtual house. If Charles Barkley can get on a scale on national TV, why can't he?" Replied O'Neal "I'll do that when Bill Walton takes his toupee off." When he was told Walton didn't wear one, O'Neal tried, "look, doesn't matter how much you weigh when you can play....How many rings did Bill Walton get anyway?" The answer was two in the NBA and three in the NCAA. "Bill's got two, too?" said O'Neal. "Oh, I didn't know that."Shaq vs. Phil 2: Jackson was so worried (about Shaq) now, it even showed. He talked to O'Neal about turning it up, but their discussion didn't go well. Using the press to press O'Neal, Jackson announced, "I had a heated conversation with Shaq, actually, about getting actively involved in chasing the ball down. He said, basically, his toe (hurt)." O'Neal was boycotting the press, as he had been for weeks. When one of the guys followed him as he walked to his car, O'Neal told him, "Ask Phil, he knows every other fucking thing." Game 3 was a nail-biter, in which the Lakers nearly bit eachothers heads off. In the second quarter, Malik Rose took 2 offensive rebounds over Shaq. In the next time out, Jackson said something to O'Neal, who smirked and waved him away. Moments later, as Jackson tapped his clipboard with a marker, O'Neal turned away again; this time Brian Shaq stepped between them. O'Neal wound up with 22 points and 15 rebounds. Kobe took over at the end, scoring 11 of his 31 in the 4th quarter, and the Lakers won, 99-89. They won game 4 too, 87-85, with O'Neal, who was blocked out by Danny Ferry, reaching over him to keep a key offensive rebound alive late in the game. "I knew I had to get it," O'Neal said. "I didn't feel like hearing Phil's mouth."Shaq's pattern: The pattern was the same. O'Neal had foot problems over the summer, came in heavy, took months to get into shape, and got mad at Jackson. O'Neal was like a horse who runs in handicap races; when he won, he'd show up the next time out, carrying another 25 pounds. He had meant to come back in better shape, but the problem started, as usual, in the summer, which he didn't like to interrupt for things like surgery.Shaq, always upset with someone?: Not that O'Neals pique at teammates came as any surprise after Shaq vs. Kobe, Shaq vs. Phil, Shaq vs. Del Harris, Eddie Jones, Nic Van Exel, Fred Hickman, Brian Hill, Penny Hardaway, et al. It was almost like there was a pattern. However, if O'Neal was mad at everyone else, he and Bryant were fine.Shaq talking shit: Meanwhile, on the charter flight over, with Kobe gone for a trial hearing, O'Neal entertained teammates with jokes at Bryant's expense. Continuing in a similar vein the next day, when O'Neal was asked how he felt about Kobe's absence, he said, "The full team is here." So much for the interlude in the feud.Shaq vs. Kobe, to the max: O'Neal suggested Kobe pass the ball more as he was getting in shape. The next day, Bryant, who never used to react, reacted. "I know how to play the guard spot," he said. "He can worry about the low post and I'll worry about mine." Replied O'Neal: "Just asked Karl and Gary why they came here. One person. Not two. One. Period. So he's right, I'm not telling him how to play his position, but he needs advice on how to play team ball. As we start this new season, shit's gotta be done right. If you don't like it, then you can opt out next year. If it's going to be my team, I'll voice my opinion. If he don't like it, he can opt out...I ain't going nowhere." Kobe replied: "There's more to life than who's team it is, but this is his team, so it's time for him to act like it. That means no more coming into camp fat and out of shape when your team is relying on your leadership on and off the court. It also means no more blaming others for our teams failure or blaming staff members for not over-dramatizing your injuries so that you avoid blame for your lack of conditioning. Also, 'my team' doesn't mean only when we win. It means carrying the burden of defeat just as gracefully as you carry a championship trophy. Leaders don't beg for contract extensions and negotiate some $30-million-plus deal in the media when we have two future hall of famers playing here basically for free. A leader would not demand the ball when you have three of us besides you, not to mention the teammates that he's gone to war with for the past 3 years...By the way, you also don't threaten not to play defense and rebound if you don't get the ball every time down the floor."Shaq, the stubborn baby: They won their opener at home, walking on the Mavericks. Bryant stayed in the dressing room in the first half, but came out on the bench in the second, sat down next to O'Neal, and tapped him on the leg. Shaq didn't as much as turn his head in acknowledgement.Shaq loves injuries: O'Neal, running low on entusiasm right on schedule, joked with Payton about faking an injury so they could go on the injured list together. Luckily for O'Neal, he popped a calf muscle in a January 2nd loss in Seattle and got to take the rest of the month off.Payton blames Shaq: Gary Payton after a loss in San Antonio: "I can't stop Tony Parker. Yeak, OK, that's great. Let me get you in the pick-and-roll 65 times and I bet I'll beat you too. You can put it on me. Whatever you want to do. Somebody's got to be the scapegoat. But you guys don't want to put it on on' who-it's-really-supposed-to-be, huh?" And who might that be? "You tell me, then," Payton said, laughing. "I don't know." Of course, it was O'Neal, who hung so far back on pick-and-rolls, Laker opponents started running them as soon as they got off the plane.Byron Scott on Kobe: "He's different", said Byron Scott about Kobe, a teammate in his rookie season. "He would have done well in the eigthies with us. At least, he showed me a tremendous amount of respect back when we were working at practice and I would tell him things that he would try to work on, and I don't think he was doing it for show. He was very interested in hearing about our team in the eighties, and we would just sit down and talk about that. He's totally different than a lot of the guys that are coming into the league with the big heads and the egos and things like that."
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 24, 2008, 12:26:34 AMQuote from: Turf Hitta on June 23, 2008, 11:52:17 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 23, 2008, 11:38:19 PMQuote from: Turf Hitta on June 23, 2008, 08:40:15 PMLOL "what a disgusting human being." LOL GTFOH!!! You are on a gangsta rap website, you do realize that this is the same type of thing that probably brought you to this board in the first place, right? You guys are way too emotionally attached to the Lakers if this bothers you. Its just Shaq having a little fun. This is the same guy who's dick you were all over in the early 2000's. I didn't give a fuck when E 40 had a verse talkin shit about Rasheed Wallace. And Shaq didn't even said nothin that wasn't true!!!This is not a rap beef, you idiot...these are ATHLETES. LOL. Anyone who thinks Shaq isn't a bitch for this shit needs to get slapped by their mama for the first time in their life.Nobody said it was a rap beef, you dolt (And yes, Shaq is/was also a rapper with some pretty successful records if you recall). I would argue that anyone who thinks Shaq IS a bitch for this is way too emotionally attached to Kobe/the Lakers. Is E40 a disgusting human being too? How the fuck do you even pass judgment on him and call him "disgusting" based on some light hearted shit like this? Did you forget to take your pills or did you take too many pills today? You are so ridiculously sensitive when it comes to the Lakers. In your eyes everything Lakers is perfect and anybody with the nerve to say anything less than complimentary of the lakers is either "disgusting" or a "hater"The fact that you're comparing E40 dissing Rasheed to Shaq's childish antics is just ridiculous. What's next, Tiger Woods disses Rocco Mediate? You have no morals, man. As for Shaq, you might not know much about the guy, but he's always been a big asshole and a giant baby, and any Laker fan who followed the team this decade can tell you this...hell, even Heat fans realized what a jackass he was after he left the team and made those dickhead comments. Read some books with objective opinions on Shaq from people who knew him throughout his career, and you will understand what type of guy he is, as well...PeACeI also guess that him dissing Ewing and Kareem was cool too...Saying he's better than Kareem. LMFAO!LOL now you're making reactionary judgments about my moral fiber based on the fact that I am not deeply offended at Shaq poking light hearted jabs at a couple other basketball players. You must consider it to be ethical and indicative of high character to be constantly judging and belittling people as this is the behavior that your internet persona engages in. Moving on... Have you ever heard a rap song/freestyle in your life? It is not at all uncommon to spew braggadocio content and take shots at other people. Its just the nature of rap sometimes and if you truly had a problem with this type of thing you would probably never have been on dubcc in the first place. Be honest, its not the fact that he was on stage rapping about people he knows personally, its because you hold such a potent emotional bond to Kobe and the Lakers that it eats away at your soul to hear anybody say anything that is less than flattering with regard to the Lakers and especially Kobe. This is what you're mad about. Just be honest. Look back at some of the other threads in here that deal with Kobe/Lakers and you'll see how extremely biased and emotional you are when it comes to the Lakers. With regard to Ewing and Kareem, well, he unquestionably is better than Ewing and a case can be made for Shaq vs Kareem. Anyway, I wouldn't even take those couple of comments as "dissing." They were just jokes. Big deal. move on and get over it. Stop being so sensitive. you're taking something very serious that isn't even meant to be serious in the first place.
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