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I doubt Messi will leave for Milan.
I wonder who MIlan will bring in to replace him with 100 Mill!? Ronaldo and Messi if they wanted to...
Quote from: Bez on January 17, 2009, 05:48:10 AMAt least players like Torres has always said he wanted to play for Liverpool.and do you really believe him ? c'mon....
At least players like Torres has always said he wanted to play for Liverpool.
Im loving all these Green eyed Monsters And Bez what fuckin footballer does not play for the money???ffs welcome to 2009Stop hating on us, worry about your own clubs What are probaby in debt.Oh and i would just like to say Thank you to everyone who keeps filling there car up with fuelM.C.F.C are forever greatful
Quote from: Adam Donnelly on January 18, 2009, 02:29:46 AMIm loving all these Green eyed Monsters And Bez what fuckin footballer does not play for the money???ffs welcome to 2009Stop hating on us, worry about your own clubs What are probaby in debt.Oh and i would just like to say Thank you to everyone who keeps filling there car up with fuelM.C.F.C are forever greatful Arab negotiations must start with: "How much would you like for this player?"
Ahh, so you were being serious.. I thought you were smarter, my mis-judgment.
Quote from: The Krasnoe Dinamo on January 17, 2009, 05:56:16 AMQuote from: Bez on January 17, 2009, 05:48:10 AMAt least players like Torres has always said he wanted to play for Liverpool.and do you really believe him ? c'mon....Torres talks to Martin SamuelsThere is a line in a song by West Coast rappers, The Pharcyde. ‘I gotta kick somethin’ that means somethin’,’ they say. Different cultures, true, a world between south central Los Angeles and Liverpool, via the working class town of Fuenlabrada, on the outskirts of Madrid, but Fernando Torres would surely recognise the sentiment. In an age when footballers are willingly traded like precious commodities, to win elections or put a business on the map, Torres is different. He is not comfortable being merely an expensive gun for hire. His first club, Atletico Madrid, is the subject of a lifelong devotion to the extent that he cannot imagine playing for another team in Spain. On signing for his second, Liverpool, he was motivated to make a similar connection, and now pledges the same career loyalty. A cynic would argue that he is merely trying this red shirt on for size, that the commitment of a player imported for a club record transfer fee cannot compare to that of a stalwart such as Steven Gerrard or Jamie Carragher. Perhaps this is true; but Torres has a manner that seems sincere. He is not so desperate to fit in that he has betrayed his birthright. When he speaks (excellent) English he still sounds more Spanish than scouse, but the words that tumble out reveal a man who is looking for kinship with more than just a random millionaires’ club. Torres, too, wants to kick something that means something. "Imagine 10 years after you stop playing, you go back, you look around, you are not in any picture, you have no medals, no trophies; it is like you played for nothing," he said. "You may have a fantastic car, a fantastic home, but what does it matter? "The biggest ambition in my career is still to win the European Cup. I want to have a picture of that to look at later; I want to have that medal. You can have a contract that is better than your friends, but no player looks back and says: "I won more money". Not that Torres is blase about financial matters. He was brought up in Fuenlabrada, a small city on the outskirts of Madrid, most famous in macho Spain for putting skirts on the stick man signs that indicate pedestrian crossing routes, in an attempt to make them gender-friendly. Torres' father, Jose, worked but his mother, Flori, devoted her day to making sure 10-year-old Fernando got to and from Atletico Madrid's training camp at Orcasitas, an arduous trip. "We had to get a train, then a bus, then walk through a park and she did it two times a day," he recalled. Torres took his devotion to Atletico from his grandfather and was well schooled in what it meant to follow the underdog. "It was more about the feeling than the results," he said. Just as well, really, for the club living in the shadow of mighty Real Madrid. "It was very hard to go through life as a small boy supporting Atletico." Torres said: "For all the other kids at the end of the season, their team was on parade with trophies. For Atletico, it was different, but I thought we represented something else: the workers of the city, the people that did not have a lot of money, who had it hard and then, when work was over, went to watch their team. "That was wonderful. Since then, what my club represents is very important. Sometimes Atletico felt small, because next door there was Real Madrid, probably the best club in the world for trophies and fame. "But when you were at our stadium it was different. There you could see that everybody was so proud of their team, they were on our side in that moment and then Monday - wake up, back to work. "Real Madrid represented something else. Glamour, big stars. But I came from a working-class family. Real did not mean as much to me. My father worked every day, my brother and sister had to travel many hours to study, so Atletico were for people like us. "Still, I do not think I could play for Real Madrid. I feel if you have the chance to play for Real Madrid you probably have a chance to play for a lot of other clubs, too — so I would pick another club. "It would be hard for me to live in Madrid with all the Atletico fans. I understand that. I still feel like an Atletico fan and when Liverpool go back to play Real Madrid in the Champions League, I will play as if I am an Atletico fan." Considering this, one might think Torres would connect more with the lot of Evertonians on Merseyside, but on signing for Liverpool he tapped instantly into the DNA of the club and the city, the way it contrives to be big, but not flash. Torres has a highly marketable image, a website, and a brand logo which cockily inserts the number nine between his first and last names, but such paraphernalia is pretty standard for a leading sportsman these days. On all other fronts he remains grounded, unblinkingly in tune with his adopted home. "Liverpool is a massive club in reputation, but as soon as I came here it felt like Atletico to me," he said. "It is a working city, an honest city. The people work all week, and on Saturday they want to go to Anfield and watch the best team in the world. I had many offers in football, I had many big clubs to choose from, so I decided on something more than football. "The people here, the history, the way everybody comes together, I looked at that and I thought we have the chance to make this one of the greatest clubs in the world, again. "Now I feel Liverpool is my English club, the way Atletico is my Spanish club. I would not like to play for another English or Spanish club. This feeling is very important to me." One is immediately reminded of Ruud Gullit who, as manager of Newcastle United, dismissed the significance of the Tyne-Wear derby because Sunderland was a different city. No chance of Torres making a similar mistake about the importance to Liverpool fans of, say, any match against Manchester United. If anything, Liverpool's imported players can become too aware of the passions around certain games, as Javier Mascherano's performance at Old Trafford last season indicated. In an era when players kiss the badge one week and ask for a transfer the next, however, it is hard to discourage one who is attempting to turn a contracted job into a vocation. "When I arrived I knew that Liverpool were a massive club, but that is all I knew," Torres added. "I could not tell you the history or what we stood for; but then my first three days were spent in an apartment. I couldn't go out because I was waiting for my medical and it was all a big secret, so the club sent me a lot of DVDs and books about Liverpool's history. "I was there with my girlfriend and we were watching and trying to read, because it was all in English, and that is how I found out it was so much bigger than I knew. I read about Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Kenny Dalglish, Ian Rush, and I felt so proud to be sharing in this club. "When I was with Atletico I was made captain at the age of 19, which was too soon really. It mattered a lot to me and I was disappointed when people came in who knew nothing about us, nothing of our history; they did not understand what made our club different. "Looking back, we should have done what Liverpool did, because if you know your club, if you know what it stands for and if you are proud of it, you will play better because it will mean something to you. "You have to know what club you are playing for or you just play for yourself. Every time I put on a Liverpool shirt, I know it is more than just a football game." The nuances are gleaned over time. Torres said that when he arrived his target was to win the Champions League, but the locals quickly put him straight. "They would say, "No, no, the Premier League, we must win the Premier League"," he recalled. "So now I feel that way, too. I know about this club. I know how important it is to win the Premier League after 19 years. I know that if Manchester United win the League this season it will be 18 titles for us and 18 for them, so we cannot let that happen. "I know that even though Chelsea and Arsenal are top teams, our biggest match of any season is with Manchester United. I know how important it is to win against Everton, too. "I imagine to win the League here would be like winning the European Championship with Spain after 44 years. We became heroes of the country, just 23 people. "There were 15 kilometres from the airport to the heart of Madrid and it was like a red sea, millions of people in the city centre all with Spanish flags, people stopping dead on the opposite side of the motorway to cheer us as we went by, getting out of their cars, standing on their cars. "It was strange. After the first game when we beat Russia 4-1, I did think it could be like every other tournament for us, when we start by playing well, but then nothing happens. "Then when we won our other group games we began to believe in ourselves and the turning point was against Italy in the quarter-finals. Throughout history, Italy beat Spain. We have the game, we have the players, but we always lose. "And then, when we beat Italy, and on penalties, I think we celebrated more than we did when we won the Final, because we knew. That was the key. "It is the same with Liverpool. Winning at Chelsea, winning against Manchester United, these are the results that give us belief — then, if we get a result at Old Trafford in March, it will be our Italy game." And it will, for Fernando Torres, most certainly kick something that means something.
Quote from: Jome on January 18, 2009, 07:37:36 AMAhh, so you were being serious.. I thought you were smarter, my mis-judgment. Just sick of people having a pop at my club, Just because it's not United or Chelsea with all the money.Fuck me there even blaming us for the fuckin credit crunch now.like i say, people should worry about owners who cant afford there club.
Kuruption u sad RAG Had a bit more respect for u, but not bin on here 4 a while.Stop getting jealous just because u lot cant afford Hermon Munster AKA Teves.WILL BUY YA CLUB AND BURN IT DOWN, WILL BUY YA CLUB AND BURN IT DOWNM.C.F.C FOOTBALL KILLERS muhahahahaAll this hate by the media is making me laugh, do u think if United had the money they would not want to buy him?United have bin buying the league for years, but no mention of that.Now it's our fuckin turn
Quote from: Bez on January 16, 2009, 12:49:07 PMDisgraceful. I dont care who it is, Barce, Real, Man City, this type of money should not be allowed to be spent on a player.Sure Man City fans love it now but what happens if this guy ups and leaves, him and his money. You wont be cheering when you're bankrupt. Fifa desperatly needs to sort out transfer fee's and introduce a wage cap, i've been saying it for years.Trust me mate the guy is here for a long time,Manchester City are running the club within it's means.Unlike other clubs that are full of debt (cough cough United)I think FIFA should look into owners who cant afford, what they have bought.
Disgraceful. I dont care who it is, Barce, Real, Man City, this type of money should not be allowed to be spent on a player.Sure Man City fans love it now but what happens if this guy ups and leaves, him and his money. You wont be cheering when you're bankrupt. Fifa desperatly needs to sort out transfer fee's and introduce a wage cap, i've been saying it for years.
Quote from: Adam Donnelly on January 18, 2009, 07:53:40 AMJust sick of people having a pop at my club, Just because it's not United or Chelsea with all the money.Fuck me there even blaming us for the fuckin credit crunch now.like i say, people should worry about owners who cant afford there club.People weren't "popping" at Chelsea when Abramovic entered?
Just sick of people having a pop at my club, Just because it's not United or Chelsea with all the money.Fuck me there even blaming us for the fuckin credit crunch now.like i say, people should worry about owners who cant afford there club.