Re: 2Pacforum hidden projects info!

[OShay Jackson]

Mike Toreno you are a fucking clown ..... posted by the original hacker Worldwide from http://www.notorious-makaveli.com/:

"This mike character is very interesting, seems he wants to take everything i post or say and claim it as his own. What a wanker, he is proberly Gurjeets friend, mike from streethop.
http://www.notorious-makaveli.com/makaveli_discussions/4475-2pacforum_legal_trouble_images_inside-3.html"

You aint got shit you douche bag.

[JohnnyL]

Mike Toreno you are a fucking clown ..... posted by the original hacker Worldwide from http://www.notorious-makaveli.com/:

"This mike character is very interesting, seems he wants to take everything i post or say and claim it as his own. What a wanker, he is proberly Gurjeets friend, mike from streethop.
http://www.notorious-makaveli.com/makaveli_discussions/4475-2pacforum_legal_trouble_images_inside-3.html"

You aint got shit you douche bag.

Interesting.  Personally, I don't know who is actually responsible for all the hacking or whatever.  I just know that when it comes to this stuff, everyone seems to already know more about this stuff than I do.  I don't know any of the 2pac scene peeps personally.  So pretty much anything that gets posted here about this stuff, is news to me.  I was a member of the 2pacforum.  But I never purchased any of the projects.  Mostly because most of the projects weren't even advertised.  I can tell you that being a member of the board, I never once saw 100% of these projects advertised. I guess it was because of the whole "levels" thing.  But the only thing I had access to were the level one projects, which I had no interest in purchasing.

[EFFeX]

That Too Gangsta 4 Radio looks sick...

[OShay Jackson]

Credit to Worldwide:

dantebenz@gmail.com
pforken@yahoo.com
http://ppc.uiowa.edu/TransportationPresentations/Images/2.jpg

dante has a iowa email he uses for ebay fraud and such

[JohnnyL]

That Too Gangsta 4 Radio looks sick...

For real.  Did you notice all those Crooked I track names on there?  There are some Crooked I tracks on there that I've never heard of.  Possibly some stuff from "Untouchable," ?

[OShay Jackson]

9:12:23 PM mindblowin03: hey Dante
9:12:33 PM Dante: hey. got the payment.
9:12:41 PM mindblowin03: cool
9:12:48 PM mindblowin03: quick question if you have a minute
9:12:56 PM Dante: shoot
9:13:30 PM mindblowin03: couple things.. am I gonna have to wait the 1 month for checkup until Evolution ships?
9:13:42 PM Dante: it will ship in a couple weeks
9:13:47 PM mindblowin03: ok
9:13:50 PM mindblowin03: one more thing...
9:14:58 PM mindblowin03: I have the RM series 1-4 and the Tupac & DR vids as well, but all of them(except RM4) are just plain CD cases... when you sell them nowadays do they come with the good cases?
9:15:32 PM Dante: normal dvd cases
9:15:37 PM mindblowin03: I see there are front and back covers on the site... but I got them way back when and I dont think there were
9:15:45 PM Dante: yeah those are somewhat new
9:16:04 PM Dante: if you want, email me the list of covers you need and i will include them
9:16:08 PM Dante: dantebenz@gmail.com
9:16:18 PM mindblowin03: oh man, that would be great
9:16:25 PM mindblowin03: Ill do that right now... thanks man
9:17:19 PM Dante: let me tell you some things first...
9:17:27 PM mindblowin03: sure
9:17:29 PM Dante: you bought born busy?
9:17:35 PM mindblowin03: yes
9:18:01 PM Dante: so what level projects can you see?
9:18:10 PM mindblowin03: on the site? lemme check
9:19:14 PM mindblowin03: when i click on projects I see all red X's in the boxes but I can see them all except level 8
9:19:31 PM mindblowin03: sorry, there is no red X in level 6 for me
9:19:51 PM mindblowin03: then there is no level 7 and I have nothing in level 8
9:19:53 PM Dante: can you see level 3?
9:20:06 PM Dante: like inside the forum
9:20:07 PM mindblowin03: yes, RM4 and BB projects
9:20:12 PM Dante: k and 4?
9:20:38 PM mindblowin03: they are locked but I can click and read anyways
9:20:46 PM Dante: ok...
9:21:03 PM Dante: so here's where i'm going with this... i know you are thc but a little behind
9:21:12 PM Dante: there is a thc version of evolution that is better
9:21:13 PM mindblowin03: yes, I know
9:21:30 PM mindblowin03: yeah, I was trying to find the link tonight but there are like 3 or 4 different links in there for it
9:21:48 PM Dante: it's in the level 6
9:22:02 PM Dante: but there's a level between where you're at and level 6
9:22:03 PM mindblowin03: yeah
9:22:12 PM mindblowin03: ahhh, gotcha
9:22:17 PM mindblowin03: what do I need for that?
9:22:28 PM Dante: Hip Hop Forums • Index page
9:22:32 PM Dante: you can see the threads here?
9:22:51 PM Dante: it's pretty expensive
9:22:54 PM mindblowin03: they both have a lock on them but when I click them I can read inside
9:23:28 PM Dante: so what i was thinking is that if you want to get evolution thc version and maybe get the koch stuff later on that should be ok
9:23:49 PM Dante: but the forum for evolution thc won't be open to you because it's a leveling issue you know
9:23:55 PM mindblowin03: do I need to get both eventually or just the Koch project?
9:24:11 PM Dante: normally you'd have to get the koch first and evo second
9:24:16 PM mindblowin03: yeah
9:24:22 PM Dante: but koch is pretty steep so i appreciate that
9:24:45 PM mindblowin03: yeah
9:24:52 PM Dante: i sent a guy at koch a personal check for $10k and we're not quite even yet so the price is still high
9:25:08 PM mindblowin03: honestly, Id love to just get it now but wont be able to
9:25:17 PM Dante: yeah i can appreciate that
9:25:30 PM mindblowin03: but I will soon... things have been good for me lately financially.. thats why Im catching up on this now
9:25:34 PM Dante: so i can send you the thc evolution if you want... it's the same as public but has more
9:25:45 PM mindblowin03: yeah, I seen it has a bit extra
9:25:58 PM mindblowin03: Id love that... that would be awesome of you to work with me on this
9:26:01 PM Dante: and actually the public was encoded to 192 once to help define the diff
9:26:13 PM Dante: but they don't need to know that
9:26:21 PM mindblowin03: lol, gotcha
9:26:46 PM Dante: can you see the thc evo thread?
9:26:56 PM Dante: Hip Hop Forums • Index page
9:27:18 PM mindblowin03: yeah
9:27:38 PM mindblowin03: level 5 is all a prank correct?
9:27:44 PM Dante: k. so it's $50 more if that's not a problem.
9:27:45 PM Dante: yeah
9:28:14 PM mindblowin03: oh, sorry.. $350 for the thc version?
9:28:17 PM Dante: yeah
9:28:22 PM mindblowin03: gotcha
9:28:27 PM mindblowin03: Ill send that over right now
9:29:25 PM Dante: k. sorry i can't open the evo forum to you but it builds on the koch one so it's not possible the way we have it set up.
9:29:26 PM mindblowin03: sending it now.. hold a sec
9:29:37 PM mindblowin03: no no, thats cool... I understand

[Soopafly DPGC]

I guess i don't understand the extreme hate for these people.  As you can tell by the leaked forum posts, they are putting in work by going to Sam Sneed and Big D and Nuttso and other people and prying the songs from them and paying them a lot to get them.  With the songs in Amaru's hands, they'll never see the light of day.

The way I looked at it, I thought it was good to have these guys around selling their projects to people, because i knew full well one day they'd all leak, and we'd get them eventually.  The more people who had them, the bigger the chance of a leak. 

I know this ain't a popular viewpoint, but let's face it, if it wasn't for Dante and these guys, "Immortal" would probably still be sitting in Sam Sneed's storage somewhere and probably would have never been heard.  Amaru wasn't ever going to release it, not in OG anyway, so at least they put it some work to get that song out there.  And they are taking extreme legal risks by doing this, as now they got busted.  I know i'd never try it.  I'm kind of indifferent towards these people, if they want to go through all the trouble and do this stuff for new 2pac stuff, then so be it.  I never bought it, never would, but if some people want to, that's cool too.

Same with the Crooked I project.  People should have just kept their mouths shut, paid up if they wanted it, if not, moved on.  The more people that would have got that Crooked I album, the better chance it would have had of leaking.  Instead of 20 or 30 people having it, we're back to 2 or 3 people having it, a lot less of a chance it's going to leak that way.  If many people had it, all it would take is for one of them to get mad at the other and then 'leak' it as retaliation, which as we've seen, has happened quite a bit over the years. 

[davidr]

9:25:58 PM mindblowin03: Id love that... that would be awesome of you to work with me on this
9:26:01 PM Dante: and actually the public was encoded to 192 once to help define the diff
9:26:13 PM Dante: but they don't need to know that
9:26:21 PM mindblowin03: lol, gotcha

feel sorry for those very few who managed to get the public leak, what a fraud and snake

[EFFeX]

That Too Gangsta 4 Radio looks sick...

For real.  Did you notice all those Crooked I track names on there?  There are some Crooked I tracks on there that I've never heard of.  Possibly some stuff from "Untouchable," ?

I believe "Live At The Row" and "Who Wants To Fuck (OG)" were meant for one of the versions of Say Hi To The Bad Guy...

I've never even heard of "It's Personal", "Catchin' Feelings", but I have heard of "West Coast", but it was called "West Coast '95"... Same track, not sure?

[2euce 7even]

2Pac-Hit 'Em Up (Demo To Retail Draft)
2Pac-The Good Die Young (Promotional Version)
2Pac-Ambitions of A Ridah (Clip)
2Pac-Secretz Of War (Clip I)
2Pac-Secretz Of War (Clip II)
2Pac-Ghetto Star (Bad Azz Explicit Version)
2Pac-First 2 Bomb (Studio Take)
2Pac-Um' Dumpin' (Studio Take)
2Pac-Let's Fight (Studio Take)
2Pac-They Don't Give A Fuck About Us (Studio Take) (Skip Errors)
2Pac-Out On Bail (Main Pass)
2Pac-If There's A Cure with Snoop Doggy Dogg
2Pac-Borrowed Times
Redrum-Deep In The Game
Above The Law-Everywhere I Go (OG)
Scrilla-Bitch N***a
Kurupt-What The Problem Iz with Eastwood
Crooked I-It´s Personal with Eastwood
LA Nash-West Coast (Fuck Eastsidaz) with Crooked I
Eastwood-The West with Crooked I
Dorasel-Death Row
Crooked I-Live At Tha Row
Michel´le-Piss U Off
Sam Sneed - Street Scholars (Demo Clips)
--01 Intro.mp3
--02 Hollywood.mp3
--03 Drug Related.mp3
--04 The Heist.mp3
--05 Lady Heroin.mp3
--06 Lookin' For.mp3
--07 The Zone.mp3
--08 It's So Hot.mp3
--09 Street Scholars.mp3
--10 Confessions.mp3
--11 Lyrical Assassins.mp3

1.Forever Struggling - Mic Geronimo feat. Fatal-N-Felony (Year 1992)
2.Fresh Like Celery (CDQ Original) Fatal-N-Felony feat. Mic Geronimo & Jody Mack
3.I Miss My Homies - Fatal-N-Felony feat. Luniz
4.Jealousy Wit Envy - Fatal-N-Felony & CMC
5.Midnight - Fatal-N-Felony (Original FNF Single)
6.Moochers - Fatal-N-Felony feat. Luniz
7.Nik Nak 93 - Mic Geronimo, Darcsyde, Fatal-N-Felony & Merc X
8.Outlawz INC. - 2Pac feat. Fatal-N-Felony
9.Papper Chase - Spice-1 & Fatal-N-Felony
10.Represent Da Stuggle - Fatal-N-Felony
11.Road To Riches - Fatal-N-Felony
12.Shoot Ya On Sight - The Floydz feat. Fatal-N-Felony
13.Take Over - Luniz & Fatal-N-Felony
14.The Killa Elite - 2Pac feat. Fatal-N-Felony
15.Waiting For Warfare - Fatal-N-Felony
16.Wartime (Original Full Version) - CMC & Fatal-N-Felony

tracks i wanna hear BAD.
the rest is known as far as i know.
any chance leakin any of dem?

[Ridah662]

we need the level 2 and 3 info and the deon project.

The Deon project is the remasters.

Kilo Lol

[davidr]

need more info on the deon project as well as born busy 

[JohnnyL]

That Too Gangsta 4 Radio looks sick...

For real.  Did you notice all those Crooked I track names on there?  There are some Crooked I tracks on there that I've never heard of.  Possibly some stuff from "Untouchable," ?

I believe "Live At The Row" and "Who Wants To Fuck (OG)" were meant for one of the versions of Say Hi To The Bad Guy...

I've never even heard of "It's Personal", "Catchin' Feelings", but I have heard of "West Coast", but it was called "West Coast '95"... Same track, not sure?

You're right. "Live at the Row" was listed on the tracklist for Los Skanless's version of "Say Hi to the Bad Guy."  And "Who Wants to Fuck (OG)" was almost certainly the same as the one that DeathrowsFinest leaked on here.  But the others, I've never heard of.  It's possible they're just the same tracks as the ones on the unreleased bootleg "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" projects, but with different names.  But more than likely, I bet they're other tracks either recorded during the "Say Hi to the Bad Guy" sessions or the "Untouchable" sessions. JMO.

[JohnnyL]

need more info on the deon project as well as born busy 

I keep reading people making reference to the Deon project.  I guess I'm "out of the loop" as it pertains to this.  Can someone fill me in?  Who is Deon?

[davidr]

Deon Evans (BIG D) early tupac producer - he sold out to dante with a load of tracks and they put it out as project